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80-96-list Digest Sat, 20 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 092

In This Issue:
Re: 87 5.0 Oil Pan Removal
Discs on the Rear
4.9L gas mileage
Re: 4.9L gas mileage
Re: 4.9L gas mileage
Re: 4.9L gas mileage
Re: 4.9L gas mileage
Re: 4.9L gas mileage
Re: Oil pan removal
Engine troubles!
Re: Oil pan removal
ignore, just a test msg
please ignore just a test last one...
Re: 4.9L gas mileage

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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 09:12:14 -0400
From: S Spaulding worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 87 5.0 Oil Pan Removal

I've done it with a four wheel drive, but not a two wheel drive. I
don't know if the clearance is the same. I had to take the upper intake
manifold off, and kind of tip the engine back. The pan came out the
front. You have to unbolt the pan and drop it a few inches, snake your
hand in, and remove the pickup tube before you can pull the pan
forward. It was four years ago, so I may have forgotten something.

Steve

MRStace84 aol.com wrote:
>
> Hello List,
>
> I'm trying to remove the oil pan on an 87 5.0 2WD without pulling the engine.
> I unbolted the motor mounts, and transmission mounts and jacked the motor
> and tranny up against the firewall, but I still don't seem to have enough
> clearance to get the pan out. I was wanting to know if anyone else had tried
> doing this with any success... or lack of success?
>
> Thanks
> Stacy Fisher
> 84 F150 4x4
> 98 Ranger XLT 4x4
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 07:40:21 -0700
From: Marv & Marge lafn.org>
Subject: Discs on the Rear

Greg Carter wrote:
> See http://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/buildup/dana60.html
> then follow the link to the rear axle.

Greg,

Thanks for a most complete rundown on how to do this job. My '89
is used primarily for work, and I have decided that this modification
is beyond my current needs, given the ease that shoes can be replaced.
It would be nice to have four-wheel disks, but not practical for me
right now.

BTW, i went to my local parts place, and they have a Borg-Warner
replacement for the Ford part number you referenced. It's $13
instead of the $30 that Ford wants for it. After looking at it and
the stock "switch" type, and looking under the truck, I can see the
need for the plumbing "adapter" that you referenced. What did the
stock Bronco use, if you have any idea? Otherwise, I will probably
hit the local plumbing store for some 3/8 inch brass pipe and fittings.
This is going to be a "fun" job, given the clearances around the engine.
Maybe I should take out the lower radiator hose first.

Thanks for all the good info.

-Marv-

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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:56:25 -0700
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: 4.9L gas mileage

Can I get the six banger groups gas mileage...?
I have filled this truck now 4 times since getting
the carb rebuilt and smogged and I am averaging
10.5 MPG. This sux! I'd be better off putting in
a 351W.
Thanks,
Chuck
Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
86 F150 300 cu in six banger
FAX 1-310-822-6815


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From: Lingus0169 aol.com
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 12:05:58 EDT
Subject: Re: 4.9L gas mileage

that is bad, 10 mpg...my brother's f100 6 banger gets about 12-14 with a 3spd
od manual..for myelf, i blew my 6 banger up, so i dropped in a 351w into my
f150. just put a edelbrock perfprmer intake and 600 cfm carb on it, not done
yet, so hopefully she'll run real nice.
nick

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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 11:24:50 -0500
From: Mike Persell home.com>
Subject: Re: 4.9L gas mileage

Since gas prices went up I have been babying my 351 in an 85 F150 and
I'm getting 15 hwy, 12 in town with the air going most of the time.

Mike


Lingus0169 aol.com wrote:
>
> that is bad, 10 mpg...my brother's f100 6 banger gets about 12-14 with a 3spd
> od manual..for myelf, i blew my 6 banger up, so i dropped in a 351w into my
> f150. just put a edelbrock perfprmer intake and 600 cfm carb on it, not done
> yet, so hopefully she'll run real nice.
> nick
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From: "Travis Moore" arkansas.net>
Subject: Re: 4.9L gas mileage
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 12:34:31 -0500

Chuck,

My 94 gets around 13 in the city and only maybe 14.5 or so on the hiway.

Doc




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From: DJ250r aol.com
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 18:39:47 EDT
Subject: Re: 4.9L gas mileage

My 95 get crappie mileage too its a x cab f 150 oh yea go and tow something
and see how good it is. I6 are really junk on fuel

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From: berninghausen2 juno.com
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 17:22:20 -0700
Subject: Re: 4.9L gas mileage

I just filled my 82 F100 300I6--16.9 mpg. 120K miles, fresh head, 2.47
rear end with an ordinary 3speed. The highway gears might give me a
couple of mpgs, and the MSD5 may add another one and a half, but the only
time it dipped near 10 mpg was when the head gasket was going south.

Bill in Portland

On Sat, 20 May 2000 08:56:25 -0700 chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
writes:
> Can I get the six banger groups gas mileage...?
> I have filled this truck now 4 times since getting
> the carb rebuilt and smogged and I am averaging
> 10.5 MPG. This sux! I'd be better off putting in
> a 351W.
> Thanks,
> Chuck


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From: "Dave Harmier" pdq.net>
Subject: Re: Oil pan removal
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 21:28:17 -0500

>Hello List,

>I'm trying to remove the oil pan on an 87 5.0 2WD without pulling the
engine.
>I unbolted the motor mounts, and transmission mounts and jacked the motor

>and tranny up against the firewall, but I still don't seem to have enough
>clearance to get the pan out. I was wanting to know if anyone else had
tried
>doing this with any success... or lack of success?

>Thanks
>Stacy Fisher
>84 F150 4x4
>98 Ranger XLT 4x4

A buddy of mine with WAY more experience and patience then me, has changed
the oil pump, gasket, seals etc. on my '92. He gripped about having to pull
the pump before the pan would come out. And said it was a real bear to put
back.

So I suspect you must pull the pump as well. I may very well be wrong!!!!

Dave H.
Houston
90 F-350 Crew LWB Diesel with Knapheide Service Body, and Liftgate "The
BEAST"
91 F-150 Super LWB 5.7 with Crossbed Toolbox, and Liftgate (Dads) (mine to
fix)
92 F-150 Super SWB 5.0 with Crossbed Toolbox (Sisters) (mine to fix)
All have E4ODs, Not the best tranny ever in my estimation!


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From: "Kyle Goley" hotmail.com>
Subject: Engine troubles!
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 23:35:23 CDT


Hey everyone. I have a 1988 F-150 4X4, it has a 5.0 302 V8 mated to a 4
speed auto tranny. I rescently put on mustang hi flow shortie block hugger
headers, dual 40 series flowmasters, and 2 1/2 in pipe to the back where
they exit on each side of the tuck. My truck is very loud, with a certain
sound I love, but a couple of days ago I noticed that the truck had lost its
destinct sound, and then I noticed a big loss in performance. I rev it up
quite a bit(rack the pipes, whatever you want to call it) and I'm trying to
figure out what happened to the engine. The performance loss is about the
same as when a couple of my plugs were bad a couple of months ago, but I had
the stock exhuast system then so I couldn't tell the difference in sound. I
really need your help please!! If you need any more info please ask. The
engine has 129,345 miles on it. Thanks!

Kyle
________________________________________________________________________


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From: "Travis Moore" arkansas.net>
Subject: Re: Oil pan removal
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 02:44:56 -0500

If you have EFI, you're going to have to remove the upper intake manifold to
gain a few extra inches. Dave is also right, it REALLY helps to pull the
oil pump and not just the pickup tube. Good luck, and be very careful, I
had the engine slip off one of the blocks I had it up on.

-----Original Message-----
From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Dave Harmier
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 9:28 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Oil pan removal


>Hello List,

>I'm trying to remove the oil pan on an 87 5.0 2WD without pulling the
engine.
>I unbolted the motor mounts, and transmission mounts and jacked the motor

>and tranny up against the firewall, but I still don't seem to have enough
>clearance to get the pan out. I was wanting to know if anyone else had
tried
>doing this with any success... or lack of success?

>Thanks
>Stacy Fisher
>84 F150 4x4
>98 Ranger XLT 4x4

A buddy of mine with WAY more experience and patience then me, has changed
the oil pump, gasket, seals etc. on my '92. He gripped about having to pull
the pump before the pan would come out. And said it was a real bear to put
back.

So I suspect you must pull the pump as well. I may very well be wrong!!!!

Dave H.
Houston
90 F-350 Crew LWB Diesel with Knapheide Service Body, and Liftgate "The
BEAST"
91 F-150 Super LWB 5.7 with Crossbed Toolbox, and Liftgate (Dads) (mine to
fix)
92 F-150 Super SWB 5.0 with Crossbed Toolbox (Sisters) (mine to fix)
All have E4ODs, Not the best tranny ever in my estimation!

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From: "droptopgt" email.msn.com>
Subject: ignore, just a test msg
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:04:37 -0500


Craig Staggs
94 GT Conv.
94 F-150
73 Mach 1 (4 Sale or Trade)

droptopgt email.msn.com




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From: "droptopgt" email.msn.com>
Subject: please ignore just a test last one...
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:05:57 -0500



Craig Staggs
94 GT Conv.
94 F-150
73 Mach 1 (4 Sale or Trade)
droptopgt email.msn.com



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From: BanksRVA aol.com
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 09:57:18 EDT
Subject: Re: 4.9L gas mileage

In a message dated 5/20/00 8:25:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
berninghausen2 juno.com writes:

<< I just filled my 82 F100 300I6--16.9 mpg. 120K miles, fresh head, 2.47
rear end with an ordinary 3speed. The highway gears might give me a
couple of mpgs, and the MSD5 may add another one and a half, but the only
time it dipped near 10 mpg was when the head gasket was going south.
>>
I have an 82 F100 also. I get 10 mpg in the city. Mine runs rough at low rpm
though,
it vibrates the hell out of the stick till I get high enough rpm's. I can't
find the problem on mine so it's still drinking gas.
Joe

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