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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 80-96-list); Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:47:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:47:12 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 80-96-list digest users Reply-to: 80-96-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 80-96-list Digest V2000 #9 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 80-96 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 80-96-list Digest Wed, 16 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 009 In This Issue: 94 Ranger XLT Re: 94 Ranger XLT Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help Body Lift/Front Bumper??? Re: Body Lift/Front Bumper??? Re: Leaning tires Axle wrap fixes Re: Coil question AND oil leak results Frame Re: Help Finding floor mat Body lift front bumper FW: Unable to open web site Re: FW: Unable to open web site Re: Axle wrap fixes Ignition Re: Leaning tires Re: Axle wrap fixes Re: Leaning tires Subject: Re: re second nipple Re: 4wd Front Axle Problem Re: Stalling when engine is hot Re: Stalling when engine is hot Re: max tire height-F150 Re: 4wd Front Axle Problem Re: Subject: Re: re second nipple Re: 4wd Front Axle Problem Re: 4wd Front Axle Problem Re: Axle wrap fixes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: falcon wmmrmail.com Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:29:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: 94 Ranger XLT Hey all, I do hope someone out there can help. I am looking to "raise" my truck a little for more clearence and looks. I have a 2x4 94 XLT ranger STOCK. I want to raise the boidy 3 inches and put bigger tires on it. any ideas? Thanks Falcon. .................................... Get your free WMMR email account at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wmmr.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:54:25 -0800 From: Bob Kennedy Subject: Re: 94 Ranger XLT Call Darrell at 800-99-CEPEK. He'll see if it can be done. Bob falcon wmmrmail.com wrote: > Hey all, I do hope someone out there can help. I am looking to "raise" my truck a little for more clearence and looks. I have a 2x4 94 XLT ranger STOCK. I want to raise the boidy 3 inches and put bigger tires on it. any ideas? > > Thanks > Falcon. > . -- http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superford.org/cgi-bin/sf.cgi?uid=default&vr2=1&ID=311 86XLT/5.0/AOD/8.8/D44 4.56 Detroit/EZ, 36x12.50x16.5, 6"/0" ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:55:21 -0500 I thought they used spools? -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >was made up when I heard that NASCAR uses Detroit Lockers. ------------------------------ From: "Nelson Vasconcelos" Subject: Body Lift/Front Bumper??? Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:52:38 -0500 Hi, I have a 1989 Ford F150 4x4 and it has a 3" body lift. The front bumper is still in the stock position and there is an ugly gap between the bumper and the body. I've been looking for brackets but no one sells them. I can fab up some myself if I have to. Have you heard of any ideas on how to make my own lift brackets or modify the stock ones? have you seen any front bumpers for my truck with lift brackets and what are the prices? I like the Smittybilt tube bumpers and the Warn Enforcer. Please point me in the right direction, no one else has really helped me on this. Thanks for the help. Nelson ------------------------------ From: Greg Carter Subject: Re: Body Lift/Front Bumper??? Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:07:45 -0500 Hi, Check out http://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/buildup/winch.html For the bumper I went with, other pics of it on the main page (link below). Bye. They made a bumper for me, which compensated for my 3" body life, winch mount... Greg Carter Entrust Technologies - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.entrust.com http://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/buildup/dana60.html -----Original Message----- From: Nelson Vasconcelos [mailto:nelson150 mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 3:53 PM To: Ford Truck Enthusiasts Subject: [80-96-list] Body Lift/Front Bumper??? Hi, I have a 1989 Ford F150 4x4 and it has a 3" body lift. The front bumper is still in the stock position and there is an ugly gap between the bumper and the body. I've been looking for brackets but no one sells them. I can fab up some myself if I have to. Have you heard of any ideas on how to make my own lift brackets or modify the stock ones? have you seen any front bumpers for my truck with lift brackets and what are the prices? I like the Smittybilt tube bumpers and the Warn Enforcer. Please point me in the right direction, no one else has really helped me on this. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:49:50 -0600 From: Ezekial Subject: Re: Leaning tires My 88 2by does have ball joints. I didn't replace them myself, I would now after gaining some knowledge but I ordered the parts. Is your sons 92 a 4by or 2by?? I could send you a picture of my 88's Front end if you would like to take a look ++++++++++++++++ On a two wheel drive truck? I just changed the king pins in a 91 ford van and my son's 92 sits on my lift with king pins in the beams??? -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >the 87 & up for sure do not have kingpins.. I am not sure what >year they >dropped them in but the 87up's have ball joints ------------------------------ From: kb9odg.mark juno.com Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:21:39 -0600 Subject: Axle wrap fixes Hi all, Does anyone have a good suggestion as to how to reduce or even eliminate rear axle wrap on an '87 F-150 with a 300 six. I just put new tires on the back of this thing, and I can still spin my tires. But I usually end up bouncing like a mo.... Anyway, it's gotta be hurting the truck and I want to get rid of it. Any suggestions? - Mark Reimers KB9ODG '66 Bronco 170 I-6, 3-speed, 3.5" suspension lift, 3" body lift, 35" tires ... '87 F-150 XLT 4x2 300 I-6, 4-speed, boring ... ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: kb9odg.mark juno.com Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:19:24 -0600 Subject: Re: Coil question AND oil leak results I seriously think it was a performance gain. My old coil did work most of the time, except when it cut out every so often. With my old coil, I was never able to get my tires spinnin' while in first and flooring it at about 1 grand. Now I can. - Mark > > ----------------- > I bought an MSD Blaster coil > and am more than happy with the results. > ---------------- > is this performance wise or just now its working again? mine is > working fine > but have thought of getting msd blaster coil and putting it in just > for a > little performance gain. better milage? faster? EZ to install? > ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Joel Thomas" Subject: Frame Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:41:18 -0600 I am looking to buy a 88 f250 frame for my big truck project. it has the full floating HD rear axle stock. it is a diesel with a c6. and 2wd how hard would it be to bolt on my 1984 f150 cab 351W/T-18/NP208 and make the frontend(2wd) to a 4wd i think they are just leaf springs on the front end so couldn't i just put and axle under there then run the driveshaft and make it 4wd are the 2wd frames different than 4wd and also how do i know if this is a strong f250 frame becuase i have been told there are three different f250s a light duty with heavyduty rear springs and more heavier one then the heavydutiest one which would this be??? thanks Joel Thomas Little Rock,AR ------------------------------ From: Lingus0169 aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:02:50 EST Subject: Re: Help Finding floor mat hi, does anyone know where i can get a floor mat for my 85 f150? I ripped mine and wanted to put a new one in. thankx in advance nick 82 351w/4 spd 85 f150 4x4 ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Crandall" Subject: Body lift front bumper Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:53:08 -0800 Nelson, I have a 94 with a 2" body lift. I also had the same problem. I looked all over for the brackets as well. I was to the point where i was going to notch out the bottom of the bumper so I can raise it up by using the existing brackets and redrilling the holes. Then I found a shop that could raise it for me. What they did was, just aft where the brackets are they cut the frame removing the bumper and the brackets as a unit. Then they welded steel plates aprox 6" long to the frame and rewelded the bumper to the plates in the correct position. I have to tell you I was a bit nervous about it, but it turned out great, and only cost me $100.00 to have it done. I say only $100., I was to the point i would have paid anything to get it raised. (The bumper that is LOL) Good Luck Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:12:01 -0600 From: bridgtap Subject: FW: Unable to open web site -----Original Message----- From: bridgtap [mailto:bridgtap swbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 8:20 PM To: truck list Subject: Unable to open web site Importance: High Ken; Is it just me or my server,I can not pull up the web site. bridgtap swbell.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:29:34 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: FW: Unable to open web site At 09:12 PM 2/16/00 -0600, you wrote: > Ken; > Is it just me or my server,I can not pull up the web site. >bridgtap swbell.net Its you or your server. The web site has been up with no problems (averaging about 80 meg of data transfer per hour). Ken ------------------------------ From: "Pinson" Subject: Re: Axle wrap fixes Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:54:27 -0800 Have your Right Foot Surgically Lightened. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:35:32 -0800 From: Chris McKinnon Subject: Ignition I have a suspition that I may not be getting any advance from my TFI-IV. Is there an easy way to check? I've been thinking about going to an MSD system. Any advice (Phred?) Thanks Chris '84 F150 351W on propane NP 435 NP 208 285K Km ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:10:00 +1100 From: les williams Subject: Re: Leaning tires Hi Gary, I have learnt, over the last few years, when it comes to 'F's, Anything at all is possible in OZ. My '85 2WD F100 OZ assembled, has ball joints, and yes I do know the difference between the two. I have 'done my time' of reaming bushes and fitting pins. Have you had the '91 & '92 since new? Not the victims of a bad cut & shut rebuilds, although you would have to be incredibly (un)lucky to get two. There has to be a reason. Hmm... Ford had a garage clean up, and found a swag of '67 beams, and sent them to the assembly line in '91 ???? It's Q & A's like this that turn Spare Parts Personnel into gibbering idiots, start cussin' real bad about the parentage of one Mr H. Ford, and start throwing heavy three ringed binder spare part catalogues at you, Well down here in OZ they could do!! ;-)) A special 'Hi' to the guys at gardniers spares........in OZ.... But we're still having Fun ......in a Ford..... regards Les Lost in the Land of OZ "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" wrote: > On a two wheel drive truck? I just changed the king pins in a 91 ford van > and my son's 92 sits on my lift with king pins in the beams??? > > -- > Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, > 78 Bronco Loving, Gary > -- > > >the 87 & up for sure do not have kingpins.. I am not sure what > >year they > >dropped them in but the 87up's have ball joints ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: Axle wrap fixes Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:43:24 -0500 My dad had a 61 fairlane that did that, what a bummer when you're a 16 year old kid and no body's watching :-( Cheapest and simples would be those spring stiffeners type, half spring dofliningies like you see on cheap drag cars. They bolt to the spring perch and extend forward to hit the end of the spring when the axle tries to wrap but they only work in one direction of course so you can't do reverse hole shots :-) -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >Does anyone have a good suggestion as to how to reduce or even >eliminate >rear axle wrap on an '87 F-150 with a 300 six. I just put new tires on ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: Leaning tires Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:47:23 -0500 Haven't looked at the 92 real close yet but I will this weekend for sure and let Y'all know what I find. The 91 E-150 was a one owner handycap van that no one else ever worked on but me. It came stock with king pins. Unless they are doing some kind of arcane thing with ball joints these days, the 92 also has pins but I'll take a closer look this weekend anyway just to make sure :-) Do the ball joint versions use the twin I beam suspension? -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >My '85 2WD F100 OZ assembled, has ball joints, and yes I do know the >difference between the two. I have 'done my time' of reaming >bushes and >fitting pins. > >Have you had the '91 & '92 since new? Not the victims of a bad >cut & shut ------------------------------ From: "David Anderson (EUS)" Subject: Subject: Re: re second nipple Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:29:15 -0600 Try this answer and see how it fits. My '90 I6 has two nipples. One goes to the coolant recovery tank. The other goes to a tee fitting in one the 5/8" rubber heater hoses. Could be someone eliminated the tee and just plugged the radiator nipple. I think this setup allows some coolant through the heater core before the thermostat opens. David Anderson >t 05:45 PM 2/15/00 -0500, you wrote: >>he second nipple is for the coolant that runs thru the throttle >>dy. If you look at yours, you will probably see, rubber hoses running >>o it already. >>ich >Thanks Rich but this is a carburized truck... >Chuck ------------------------------ From: "Chapman, David P" Subject: Re: 4wd Front Axle Problem Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:34:12 -0500 Sounds to me like you have a limited slip front differential. I had a 95 F150 with it, and it drove the same way. My dealer told me that's how they handle and the only way to fix it was to remove the limited slip. Dave 95 Bronco -----Original Message----- From: RobSweed aol.com [mailto:RobSweed aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 1:43 AM To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [80-96-list] 4wd Front Axle Problem Have any of you out there knowledge of 4wd front axles? I bought my 94 F-150 SC 4X4 used with 18K three years ago from a Ford dealer. The truck had just gone out of warranty and, because it was used I wanted an extended FACTORY warranty the dealer obliged me by certifying it. Up until this past month, in which we had some significant snow, I have very rarely locked the part time hubs let alone put it in 4wd. I would lock the hubs occasionally to circulate the lubricants. When I would lock them I felt a big difference in the way the truck steered and I had it aligned. I've owned numerous 4wd's and was accustomed to change in handling characteristics but this was different. The truck wants to go straight when I want to turn. Particularly when I turn just a little such as on a road with slight bends. A few times I started crossing the double yellow and the shoulder because I was distracted and was driving the way I would 99% of the time. I took it to the dealer and at first they said they couldn't find anything nor feel a problem while driving it. I took it for a test drive with the service writer and was embarrassed because it wasn't doing it. I locked the hub on my side and he did the same on his. I took it back and went to pick up the wife and it was driving me crazy that it was no longer doing it. When I got to my wife's work I checked the hubs again. It turns out that the passenger side hub was in freewheel. I locked it and the problem returned. Took the service writer for a ride again, making him drive and it was obvious that he found the steering to be disconcerting. The service writer's final answer was that 1, the front axle has posi-traction, 2. none of the mechanics could find a problem nor did they know of a fix for it, 3. no one has ever heard of this before thus there is no fix for it, 4. it's just a characteristic of this type of vehicle (how can it be a characteristic if no ones ever heard of it?) and 5. what am I doing driving on dry ground with the hubs locked? (do you want to jump out of your truck every five minutes to lock and unlock them driving in Philadelphia where only the major streets get plowed)? Sorry for the long winded message but this has got me bugged, Bob Sweed 94 F-150 SC 4X4 302ci ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the body of the message. ------------------------------ From: "David Anderson (EUS)" Subject: Re: Stalling when engine is hot Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:10:05 -0600 You sound like you're checking the right types of things. Neither in your post nor in responses do I recall seeing mention of checking the throttle position sensor (TPS). I would suspect this anytime there is a wandering idle. I may check OK with an ohmmeter cold but get flakey when hot. Cleaning the EGR is a good idea. They cause trouble by sticking open causing a lean idle condition. To get it off, repeatedly soak the big nut with WD40. To make sure the EGR is not the problem, I have in the past, taken the thing off, plugged the two holes with rubber (or homemade wooden) stoppers and test driven without it. After this you'll have an EGR fault code which you may want to clear. Good Luck, David Anderson > > Stalling: My truck has a nasty habit of stalling > just after I depress the clutch and begin to brake. It will not stall when > the engine is cold and it gets worse if I am going downhill. Sometimes on > flat ground it will recover before stalling and just bounce between 0-1600 > rpm a few times. > Constant high idle: The truck almost always idles > around 1050 rpm. I have done the usual...check all vacuum lines, clean the > air bypass valve (IAC), etc. The one thing I haven't done is check the EGR > valve because I ....... > ------------------------------ From: "Watkins, Robert (GEP)" Subject: Re: Stalling when engine is hot Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:28:49 -0500 David, Thanks a lot for the advice. Actually, I forgot to mention that I changed the TPS. I had a problem with the throttle sticking open (one of the o-rings on the shaft that holds the butterfly valves went bad) and ended up having to replace the whole throttle body. The TPS isn't new, but it is "different" and the same problem exists. I will definitely try plugging the holes. Thanks. If anyone else has any additional ideas, I'll try just about anything at this point! You sound like you're checking the right types of things. Neither in your post nor in responses do I recall seeing mention of checking the throttle position sensor (TPS). I would suspect this anytime there is a wandering idle. I may check OK with an ohmmeter cold but get flakey when hot. Cleaning the EGR is a good idea. They cause trouble by sticking open causing a lean idle condition. To get it off, repeatedly soak the big nut with WD40. To make sure the EGR is not the problem, I have in the past, taken the thing off, plugged the two holes with rubber (or homemade wooden) stoppers and test driven without it. After this you'll have an EGR fault code which you may want to clear. Good Luck, David Anderson > > Stalling: My truck has a nasty habit of stalling > just after I depress the clutch and begin to brake. It will not stall when > the engine is cold and it gets worse if I am going downhill. Sometimes on > flat ground it will recover before stalling and just bounce between 0-1600 > rpm a few times. > Constant high idle: The truck almost always idles > around 1050 rpm. I have done the usual...check all vacuum lines, clean the > air bypass valve (IAC), etc. The one thing I haven't done is check the EGR > valve because I ....... > ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the body of the message. ------------------------------ From: "DannyF" Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:36:43 -0600 Subject: Re: max tire height-F150 Date sent: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:16:23 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server > What are the tallest tires & wheels that I can put on my 1996 standard > cab > F-150 pickup? > > Bob I just asked this question to 2 busy tire shops. 33 X 12.5 X 15 will rub on turns for sure. 31 X 10.5 X 15 will be OK except maybe turned hard and hitting a deep hole w/weak coil springs. Danny fitz011 ev1.net ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: 4wd Front Axle Problem Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:55:38 -0500 You all realize of course that with a detroit in the back and open in front you still have the potential of having one wheel drive.....:-( And with full time wouldn't it be possible to have no wheel drive due to the planetary gear set? I mean you're doing a wheelie and one rear tire is on ice so......Okokok that's not fair......You're in a ditch with two tires in deep snow and two on icy pavement......with detroit in the rear and open front you have one wheel drive with part time xfer case, with LS up front you have 2wd if you use a little brake to force it. This scenerio is close to my heart because one day I got that way in a scout with open diffs at both ends and was pulled out by a chevy sedan with summer tires.....:-( How utterly embarrasing :-( Having some experience with rear LS and no slippery stuff in the oil I would say if you have one in the front you should expect a little pulling in curves and considerable resistance to turn and considerable chatter in sharp corners such as in town but on dry pavement, still controllable......on ice though this phenomenon would cause you to slip sideways and be basically out of control but on any slippery surface with enough traction to force the wheels to turn independently you would get along fine but not as well as with an open diff in that situation which brings us to the ARB/Torsen/TrueTrac way of handling it. There is no preload on any of these to lock the wheels together, the ARB of course can be opened when you need it and the LS's lock according to a ratio which is wide enough to allow full turns with no preload (a 45 degree full lock turn with 104" wheel base nets a 1.44:1 ratio between the front and rear driveshafts). The Torsen is well known as the best of the breed for "automatic" control of the front end and the ARB is the next best choice if you want to have more control and is reputed to be stronger than any of the others except the Detroit. Hummers have three Torsens in them but still get stuck in the mud......that must be telling us something?? BTW, is everyone remembering to trim the posts? -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >Sounds to me like you have a limited slip front differential. >I had a 95 >F150 with it, and it drove the same way. My dealer told me >that's how they >handle and the only way to fix it was to remove the limited slip. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:01:50 -0800 From: Chuck Sanborn Subject: Re: Subject: Re: re second nipple At 07:29 AM 2/17/00 -0600, you wrote: >Try this answer and see how it fits. The other goes to a tee fitting in >one the >5/8" rubber heater hoses. Hi David, OK, that also makes sense. I will check on the heater hoses and see if either they have been changed or if there is a plugged fitting at that end. Thanks, Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:18:55 -0500 From: James Oxley Subject: Re: 4wd Front Axle Problem Peters, Gary (G.R.) wrote: > > You all realize of course that with a detroit in the back and open in front > you still have the potential of having one wheel drive.....:-( Only for a split second and if you get stuck like that, you drive too SLOW!!!!!!!!! And with > full time wouldn't it be possible to have no wheel drive due to the > planetary gear set? I mean you're doing a wheelie and one rear tire is on > ice so......Okokok that's not fair......You're in a ditch with two tires in > deep snow and two on icy pavement... Still have one wheel drive, even with three open diff's, just ain't movin. > be basically out > of control but on any slippery surface with enough traction to force the > wheels to turn independently you would get along fine but not as well as > with an open diff in that situation I had the opportunity recently to blast around on the snow and a frozen lake with my trail beater. It has a LR in the front, is welded in the back and has 38.5 tires in the rear and 36.5's in the front. Now I wouldn't want to drive down the highway in 6" snow at 60 MPH in 4wd (not that I would do that anyway in 6" snow with any rig) with this setup, but with all the stuff that was theoretically wrong with this setup it was very controllable and almost unstoppable offroad. There was no weird pulling even at 30 MPH plus and it cornered fine, even tight cornering. Again, not the perfect setup for ice/snow, but not in any way the bear that you might think it would be. > Hummers have three Torsens in them but still get stuck in the mud......that > must be telling us something?? Yeah, not enough HP and too heavy. Also, crappy setup with susp that hangs down and kills the portal idea. They need solid axles in those things, like mogs. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thecore.com/~luxjo/mog/mog05.jpg OX ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: 4wd Front Axle Problem Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:14:29 -0500 Actually, if the geniuses at the road commision would leave the roads alone til the sun comes out, driving on 6" of fresh snow is a breeze in 4wd at 60 mph.....the problem comes in when there is traffic and it turns to slush and ruts begin to develop, then no kind of rig can handle it at 60.....:-( I've hauled to town or to work at 60 many times in the snow but you have to know what kind of snow to do it in for sure and pay attention to the temps. On cold days where temps stay below 20 the snow and underlying ice are "tacky" and decent winter tires will bite very well giving you good control. It goes without saying that you do still have to make special arrangements to stop under those conditions but you can go like mad if you need to and use a little common sense :-) Another danger to this, and quite common around here is the drifting which is very difficult to see until it is too late which will grab the outside tires and pull you off the road and of course you react to that by sawing the wheel in the opposit direction which more or less intantly gets you sideways. When there are drifts which cover only part of the road I slow down and when I approach oncoming traffic I slow down, quite a bit but when I've got the road to myself I enjoy my 4wd, immensely :-) I'm talking two lanes now not Eways :-) I stay off the Eways when it snows :-) One time I was headed to Deerfield with my daughter (picked her up after work and took her to her appartment there) we had to make a choice between waiting for the police and wreckers to clean up an accident ahead or take a side road which was not plowed very often and which was drifted over to over 3' in some places. I had never tried to go through that much but I figured if I went slow I could always back out if I got stuck so I went in third gear at about 25 mph and we just walked right through all of that and had a good time doing it too :-) With lockers I wouldn't even question such a challenge.....it would be a piece a cake :-) That day I got stuck in Earl's yard would have been a blast with lockers. The real deep part was over 4' but it was not all that long a stretch so I feel I could have "busted" through it if I had lockers. Earl hooked up to my chain on the same car with his F-250 with tractor fuel tank in the back and lockers front and rear and hauled that car out of there like it was a tabogin or tooth pick, course he was on the part that wasn't deep, just steep and packed down.....I was in snow over the bottom of my side windows and hood :-) Snow is so much fun!!! :-) -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >wouldn't want to drive down the highway in 6" snow at 60 MPH in 4wd >(not that I would do that anyway in 6" snow with any rig) with this ------------------------------ From: FLR150 aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:48:50 EST Subject: Re: Axle wrap fixes In a message dated 2/16/00 7:35:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, kb9odg.mark juno.com writes: << But I usually end up bouncing like a mo.... Anyway, it's gotta be hurting the truck and I want to get rid of it. Any suggestions? >> There is a company called Desert Steel in Nevada (I believe). I was having terrible axle wrap and hop on my Flareside trying to do burnouts and coming off the line at races. They have a setup called the Trak Truss. It is like the standard traction bar in theory, but it mounts to the TOP of the spring pack instead of the bottom. I will be posting the pics and steps on installation of these as soon as I get a chance. As far as how they work, well I still have a little bit of hop on full bore nitrous launches but its no where near the violent, part breaking hops I was having before. The kit cost me $190 for all the parts and about 2 hours install time. You'll have to a websearch for their number as I seem to have misplaced it, and they don't have a website. If you cant find it that way, call Dick Cepek and they will be able to give it to you. later Wayne Foy '94 Flareside SC ------------------------------ End of 80-96-list Digest V2000 #9 ********************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 80-96 Truck Mailing List Send posts to 80-96-list ford-trucks.comIf you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar ford-trucks.comwith the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com ---------------------------------------------------------- |
