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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 80-96-list); Thu, 04 May 2000 12:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 12:40:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 80-96-list digest users Reply-to: 80-96-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 80-96-list Digest V2000 #78 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 80-96 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 80-96-list Digest Wed, 03 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 078 In This Issue: Re: Owner's Manual Re: Owner's Manual Brake Light switch bronco mpg 1995 F150 4R70W Tranny Re: bronco mpg Re: 1995 F150 4R70W Tranny Electronic shift improver EFI 460 restrictor testing Re: Electronic shift improver Re: More oomph at road speed? Re: Owners Manual Re: Air Bag Code & small bell sound Re: general ? Take Control of Torque Converter-E4OD Re: general ? Re: Bell sound at front wheel. Re: general ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLR150 aol.com Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:14:07 EDT Subject: Re: Owner's Manual James, What year truck do you have? I have access to certain years of CDs for all of FOMOCOs products. Email me off list to chat about it. Later, Wayne Foy 94 Flareside SC 1999 Fun Ford Weekend Racing series #2 Top Truck Atlanta GA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 13:36:31 -0500 From: Chuck Saunders Subject: Re: Owner's Manual James I had the same problem Turns out it's www.helminc.com no "s" Chuck > From: Mc Gregor JAMES > Subject: Re: Owner's Manual > Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:37:54 +0200 > > Terrry and Carolyn, > > I could not acess the helmsinc.com site , am I the only one. > > James ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 14:02:52 -0500 From: "Michael Masse" Subject: Brake Light switch I've had my 87 F250 for a few weeks now, and have been trying to track down a problem with no brake lights. Since the cruise control doesn't disengage when hitting the brakes, I assumed it was the switch, and just picked one up last night. When I went to install it, I found that there are two switches that get actuated by the brake pedal. One is rectangular, and the other is cylindrical. While I was under the dash, I tested the switches with a continuity checker, and they both checked out just fine, so until I get a chance to pick up a wiring diagram, can anyone tell me what each of the switches do? Is one for cruise, and the other for brake lights? One other thing is that the ABS light is constantly on, but that shouldn't have anything to do with the brake lights or cruise disable not working should it? Mike ------------------------------ From: "Rich May" Subject: bronco mpg Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 15:15:42 EDT I was wondering what type of mileage the 92-96 Bronco's (all stock) get. I would like the figures for either of the engines. Thanks ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "billbarb" Subject: 1995 F150 4R70W Tranny Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:34:45 -0400 My 1995 4R70W tranny shifts irradically between 3rd and 4th after the tranny fluid gets hot. It can't make up its mind which way to shift sometimes going into nutral or in between gears.I have tried to pattern this condition( i.e. load,rpms, speed) but the only thing I know for sure is it happens when the fluid is hot. The fluid shows no sign of being burned or over heated. It does happen more often when down shifting. Bill Newell billbarb mindspring.com ------------------------------ From: "Chapman, David P" Subject: Re: bronco mpg Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:39:56 -0400 I've got a 95 Bronco, 302, E40D. I get 14-15 MPG. -----Original Message----- From: Rich May [mailto:doom460 hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 3:16 PM To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [80-96-list] bronco mpg I was wondering what type of mileage the 92-96 Bronco's (all stock) get. I would like the figures for either of the engines. Thanks ________________________________________________________________________ ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ From: FLR150 aol.com Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:44:26 EDT Subject: Re: 1995 F150 4R70W Tranny In a message dated 5/3/00 3:31:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, billbarb mindspring.com writes: << My 1995 4R70W tranny shifts erratically between 3rd and 4th after the tranny fluid gets hot. It can't make up its mind which way to shift sometimes going into neutral or in between gears. I have tried to pattern this condition (i.e., load, rpms, speed) but the only thing I know for sure is it happens when the fluid is hot. The fluid shows no sign of being burned or over heated. It does happen more often when down shifting. Bill Newell billbarb mindspring.com>> Bill, I have become a bit of a 4R70W expert after messing with mine so much. You need a good quality shift kit and synthetic fluid. It takes about 14.5 quarts to fill the convertor and trans. You need to drain the convertor to put in the synthetic. Also I would recommend the towing spring for you, unless you want some pretty snappy shifts then go with the "police/taxi" spring. if you want some more parts numbers or more info, email me off list. Later, Wayne Foy 94 Flareside SC 1999 Fun Ford Weekend Racing series #2 Top Truck Atlanta GA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:59:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rozell Subject: Electronic shift improver Hi All, I was wondering if anyone on the list has tried one of the shift improvers from B&M etc. That plug into the tranny. If they do indeed work how can I find which tranny I have in my 96 F150??? Thanks in advance, Paul Rozell 65 F100 460 C6 96 F150 5.0 SC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Fred Moreno Subject: EFI 460 restrictor testing Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:55:06 -0600 James wrote: Just got back from testing at lunch. I got conflicting results, but it looks like the restrictor stays for now. 0-60 and 1/4 mile runs were done in 4WD to avoid wheelspin off the line. For HP figures I assume 5500 lbs for a 95 F250, 460, auto, 4WD, ext cab, with cap (seem right??). Without restrictor (hot air from engine compartment) 40-70-------7.31, 7.37 (did twice since I was using stopwatch) 0-60--------8.91 1/4 ET------17.02 (220 HP) 1/4 MPH-----80.2 (221 HP) with restrict 40-70-------7.85, 7.90 0-60--------8.51 1/4 ET------16.72 (232 HP) 1/4 MPH-----81.3 (230 HP) So 0-60 and 1/4 mile time/speed were better with the restrictor, but 40-70 was significantly slower with it. Leads me to think the restictor does help low end torque, but limits top end somewhat. So Phred butts in: I'm familiar with the restrictor you mention, and have really enjoyed reading about your experiments. I'm jealous. BUT, you really ought to double check the idle speed setting when you remove the restrictor. I bring this up because you mentioned on one posting that it appeared to you the truck idled a little better, implying that something did change. Need to compare apple to apples and oranges to oranges. And check the ignition timing, not that I suspect it should change but I have been wrong before. I have posted those procedures in the past on a couple of occasions. Let me know if you want this posted again. It's not a difficult procedure but requires about 10 minutes for the first time and the use of a tachometer. Will work for shocks "Phred" My 2 Pesos, has anyone seen the UPS guy with my shocks? I haven't yet. ------------------------------ From: FLR150 aol.comDate: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:23:50 EDT Subject: Re: Electronic shift improver In a message dated 5/3/00 4:00:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, prozell yahoo.comwrites: << Hi All, I was wondering if anyone on the list has tried one of the shift improvers from B&M etc. That plug into the tranny. If they do indeed work how can I find which tranny I have in my 96 F150??? Thanks in advance, Paul Rozell 65 F100 460 C6 96 F150 5.0 SC >> Paul, All those do is bump up the shift pressure on the tranny. Too many wide open shifts with that thing can blow out the pressure regulator for your trans., and do damage to other electronic components. I have personally used this product, I had to replace the whole control section of electronics at a price of $500 + the labor. Not worth it, IMHO. The valve body shift kit cost almost the same, and works better. Later, Wayne Foy 94 Flareside SC 1999 Fun Ford Weekend Racing series #2 Top Truck Atlanta GA ------------------------------ From: Spruce1495 aol.comDate: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:50:12 EDT Subject: Re: More oomph at road speed? Might have TPS checked for resistance. Mine was bad and leaned out so badly ,it burned valves in 2 cylinders. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 17:51:36 -0700 From: Bob Pringle Subject: Re: Owners Manual > > ---------------------------------------------------------- The correct web addy is ------------------------------ From: "Obert, Scott AT3" Subject: Re: Air Bag Code & small bell sound Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 18:08:17 -0700 Thanks Wayne, but that's not it. I checked everything on that side that I can get to without taking anything apart. Guess I'm gunna have to start tearing the hub apart. Thanks, Scott > -----Original Message----- > From: FLR150 aol.com [SMTP:FLR150aol.com]> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 9:50 PM > To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Air Bag Code & small bell sound > > Scott, > Check the spring retainer nuts, all the suspension parts on that side for > that matter. You may only hear that sound a few more times before > something > bad happens. Not trying to scare you just being truthful...something is > loose > and that's not good. > Later, > Wayne Foy > 94 Flareside SC > 1999 Fun Ford Weekend > Racing series > #2 Top Truck > Atlanta GA > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with> the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the > message. > ------------------------------ From: Lingus0169 aol.comDate: Wed, 3 May 2000 22:33:06 EDT Subject: Re: general ? i have a 351w and i am looking on getting a 4bbl intake for it...will the 302 intake fit on it, or is it too different? nick 82 351w in a 85 f150 xl 4x4 w/ a T-18 ------------------------------ From: "Dave Harmier" Subject: Take Control of Torque Converter-E4OD Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 21:47:56 -0500 I managed to save these instructions, and now I share them once again. (Thanks to Dana B.) ATO transmission said, find the Purple Wire with a Yellow Stripe coming from the computer, and passe near the brake pedal. (I myself looked here, and opted for plan b) This wire is the ground connection for the TC lockup solenoid. You can toggle this wire inline and have the ability to enable or defeat the TC Lockup. Was recommended disable in town, and enable on highway, similar to OD. If you can disable it for 10-20 minutes without a check engine light, you're good to go. If you get a light, then the 'puter is too smart and you are SOL. Usually won't work after '93. >post #2 (plan b) Under the dash is too tough. I couldn't find it there. So look here: Find the harness plug on the passenger side of the tranny. Follow that harness! It goes to the driver side frame rail and forward, in a hard plastic loom on it. (On my '90 F-350 7.3/E4OD I got it on the fore and aft run on the frame rail) dig those wires out and find the Purple with Yellow stripe. There will be purple with orange as well, but get the purple/yellow. Cut the wire, and crimp on bullet connectors, so you can undo this easily if neccesary. Ruun two wires into cab to a toggle or rocker switch, with "on" as connected, and "off" as an open circuit. Try it. (I did, and am VERY glad I went to the trouble to do it!) >Guys, I asked a couple times to get this info again, but didn't, so here it is for the new guys< Consise version of Dana Bs two posts. Ask me if you need any more info. Dave H. '90 F-350 CC LWB Knapheide Service Body and Tommy Lift 7.3/E4OD The BEAST! '91 F-150 SC LWB Crossbed Toolbox and Tommy Lift 5.8/E4OD Dads '92 F-150 SC SWB Crossbed Toolbox 5.0/E4OD Sisters ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 19:51:54 -0700 From: chuck sanborn Subject: Re: general ? At 10:33 PM 5/3/00 -0400, you wrote: >i have a 351w and i am looking on getting a 4bbl intake for it...will the 302 >intake fit on it, or is it too different? >nick Nope...351 is wider chuck ------------------------------ From: "Dave Harmier" Subject: Re: Bell sound at front wheel. Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 22:29:36 -0500 In a message dated 5/3/00 12:45:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ObertS constellation.navy.mil writes:<< I can also hear it if I kick the top of my left front tire. I tried having a friend kick it while I tried to locate the sound but we couldn't find it. We took the tire off and checked the brake but that's not it. I'm thinking maybe the bearings have no grease left. Anybody got a clue what this could be? Thanks, Scott >> I can speak from absolute experience. It was a booger to find, but the washer that holds the bottom of the spring (as well as the radius rod to the I beam!) was quite loose. I think it was a 1 1/8" wrench, tightened it, and definitely felt and heard a difference. CHECK THAT BOLT!!!! Dave H. Houston ------------------------------ From: slikness mindspring.comDate: Thu, 04 May 2000 13:41:00 -0400 Subject: Re: general ? The 302 intake will not fit your 351W. The 351W is wider and the deck is also taller than the 302. There is not a lot of interchangeablity between the two engines. Slik > i have a 351w and i am looking on getting a 4bbl intake for it...will the 302 intake fit on it, or is it too different? nick 82 351w in a 85 f150 xl 4x4 w/ a T-18 ------------------------------ End of 80-96-list Digest V2000 #78 ********************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 80-96 Truck Mailing List Send posts to 80-96-list ford-trucks.comIf you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar ford-trucks.comwith the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. 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