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80-96-list Digest Wed, 03 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 078

In This Issue:
Re: Owner's Manual
Re: Owner's Manual
Brake Light switch
bronco mpg
1995 F150 4R70W Tranny
Re: bronco mpg
Re: 1995 F150 4R70W Tranny
Electronic shift improver
EFI 460 restrictor testing
Re: Electronic shift improver
Re: More oomph at road speed?
Re: Owners Manual
Re: Air Bag Code & small bell sound
Re: general ?
Take Control of Torque Converter-E4OD
Re: general ?
Re: Bell sound at front wheel.
Re: general ?

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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:14:07 EDT
Subject: Re: Owner's Manual

James,
What year truck do you have? I have access to certain years of CDs for all of
FOMOCOs products. Email me off list to chat about it.
Later,
Wayne Foy
94 Flareside SC
1999 Fun Ford Weekend
Racing series
#2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA

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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 13:36:31 -0500
From: Chuck Saunders bv229.k12.ks.us>
Subject: Re: Owner's Manual

James
I had the same problem
Turns out it's www.helminc.com no "s"
Chuck

> From: Mc Gregor JAMES mossgas.co.za>
> Subject: Re: Owner's Manual
> Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:37:54 +0200
>
> Terrry and Carolyn,
>
> I could not acess the helmsinc.com site , am I the only one.
>
> James

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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 14:02:52 -0500
From: "Michael Masse" medicine.wisc.edu>
Subject: Brake Light switch

I've had my 87 F250 for a few weeks now, and have been trying to track down a problem with no brake lights. Since the cruise control doesn't disengage when hitting the brakes, I assumed it was the switch, and just picked one up last night. When I went to install it, I found that there are two switches that get actuated by the brake pedal. One is rectangular, and the other is cylindrical. While I was under the dash, I tested the switches with a continuity checker, and they both checked out just fine, so until I get a chance to pick up a wiring diagram, can anyone tell me what each of the switches do? Is one for cruise, and the other for brake lights? One other thing is that the ABS light is constantly on, but that shouldn't have anything to do with the brake lights or cruise disable not working should it?


Mike



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From: "Rich May" hotmail.com>
Subject: bronco mpg
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 15:15:42 EDT

I was wondering what type of mileage the 92-96 Bronco's (all stock) get. I
would like the figures for either of the engines. Thanks
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From: "billbarb" mindspring.com>
Subject: 1995 F150 4R70W Tranny
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:34:45 -0400


My 1995 4R70W tranny shifts irradically between 3rd and 4th after the tranny fluid gets hot. It can't make up its mind which way to shift sometimes going into nutral or in between gears.I have tried to pattern this condition( i.e. load,rpms, speed) but the only thing I know for sure is it happens when the fluid is hot. The fluid shows no sign of being burned or over heated. It does happen more often when down shifting. Bill Newell billbarb mindspring.com


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From: "Chapman, David P" unisys.com>
Subject: Re: bronco mpg
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:39:56 -0400

I've got a 95 Bronco, 302, E40D. I get 14-15 MPG.

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I was wondering what type of mileage the 92-96 Bronco's (all stock) get. I
would like the figures for either of the engines. Thanks
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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:44:26 EDT
Subject: Re: 1995 F150 4R70W Tranny

In a message dated 5/3/00 3:31:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
billbarb mindspring.com writes:

<< My 1995 4R70W tranny shifts erratically between 3rd and 4th after the
tranny fluid gets hot. It can't make up its mind which way to shift sometimes
going into neutral or in between gears. I have tried to pattern this
condition (i.e., load, rpms, speed) but the only thing I know for sure is it
happens when the fluid is hot. The fluid shows no sign of being burned or
over heated. It does happen more often when down shifting. Bill Newell
billbarbmindspring.com
>>
Bill,
I have become a bit of a 4R70W expert after messing with mine so much. You
need a good quality shift kit and synthetic fluid. It takes about 14.5 quarts
to fill the convertor and trans. You need to drain the convertor to put in
the synthetic. Also I would recommend the towing spring for you, unless you
want some pretty snappy shifts then go with the "police/taxi" spring. if you
want some more parts numbers or more info, email me off list.
Later,
Wayne Foy
94 Flareside SC
1999 Fun Ford Weekend
Racing series
#2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA

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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:59:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Rozell yahoo.com>
Subject: Electronic shift improver

Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone on the list has tried one of the shift improvers from B&M etc. That plug
into the tranny. If they do indeed work how can I find which tranny I have in my 96 F150???

Thanks in advance,

Paul Rozell
65 F100 460 C6
96 F150 5.0 SC

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From: Fred Moreno dualcurve.com>
Subject: EFI 460 restrictor testing
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:55:06 -0600



James wrote:

Just got back from testing at lunch. I got conflicting results, but
it
looks like the restrictor stays for now. 0-60 and 1/4 mile runs were
done in 4WD to avoid wheelspin off the line. For HP figures I assume
5500 lbs for a 95 F250, 460, auto, 4WD, ext cab, with cap (seem
right??).

Without restrictor (hot air from engine compartment)

40-70-------7.31, 7.37 (did twice since I was using stopwatch)
0-60--------8.91
1/4 ET------17.02 (220 HP)
1/4 MPH-----80.2 (221 HP)

with restrict

40-70-------7.85, 7.90
0-60--------8.51
1/4 ET------16.72 (232 HP)
1/4 MPH-----81.3 (230 HP)

So 0-60 and 1/4 mile time/speed were better with the restrictor,
but
40-70 was significantly slower with it. Leads me to think the
restictor
does help low end torque, but limits top end somewhat.

So Phred butts in:

I'm familiar with the restrictor you mention, and have really enjoyed
reading about your experiments. I'm jealous. BUT, you really ought to double
check the idle speed setting when you remove the restrictor. I bring this
up because you mentioned on one posting that it appeared to you the truck
idled a little better, implying that something did change. Need to compare
apple to apples and oranges to oranges.
And check the ignition timing, not that I suspect it should change but I
have been wrong before.
I have posted those procedures in the past on a couple of occasions. Let me
know if you want this posted again. It's not a difficult procedure but
requires about 10 minutes for the first time and the use of a tachometer.

Will work for shocks "Phred"
My 2 Pesos, has anyone seen the UPS guy with my shocks? I haven't yet.



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From: FLR150aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:23:50 EDT
Subject: Re: Electronic shift improver

In a message dated 5/3/00 4:00:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, prozellyahoo.com
writes:

<< Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone on the list has tried one of the shift improvers
from B&M etc. That plug
into the tranny. If they do indeed work how can I find which tranny I have
in my 96 F150???

Thanks in advance,

Paul Rozell
65 F100 460 C6
96 F150 5.0 SC >>

Paul,
All those do is bump up the shift pressure on the tranny. Too many wide open
shifts with that thing can blow out the pressure regulator for your trans.,
and do damage to other electronic components. I have personally used this
product, I had to replace the whole control section of electronics at a price
of $500 + the labor. Not worth it, IMHO. The valve body shift kit cost almost
the same, and works better.
Later,
Wayne Foy
94 Flareside SC
1999 Fun Ford Weekend
Racing series
#2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA

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From: Spruce1495aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:50:12 EDT
Subject: Re: More oomph at road speed?

Might have TPS checked for resistance. Mine was bad and leaned out so badly
,it burned valves in 2 cylinders.

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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 17:51:36 -0700
From: Bob Pringle bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Owners Manual

>
> ----------------------------------------------------------

The correct web addy is (there's no "s" in it!)



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From: "Obert, Scott AT3" constellation.navy.mil>
Subject: Re: Air Bag Code & small bell sound
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 18:08:17 -0700

Thanks Wayne, but that's not it. I checked everything on that side that I
can get to without taking anything apart. Guess I'm gunna have to start
tearing the hub apart.

Thanks,
Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: FLR150aol.com [SMTP:FLR150aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 9:50 PM
> To: 80-96-listford-trucks.com
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Air Bag Code & small bell sound
>
> Scott,
> Check the spring retainer nuts, all the suspension parts on that side for
> that matter. You may only hear that sound a few more times before
> something
> bad happens. Not trying to scare you just being truthful...something is
> loose
> and that's not good.
> Later,
> Wayne Foy
> 94 Flareside SC
> 1999 Fun Ford Weekend
> Racing series
> #2 Top Truck
> Atlanta GA
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From: Lingus0169aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 22:33:06 EDT
Subject: Re: general ?

i have a 351w and i am looking on getting a 4bbl intake for it...will the 302
intake fit on it, or is it too different?
nick
82 351w in a
85 f150 xl 4x4 w/ a T-18

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From: "Dave Harmier" pdq.net>
Subject: Take Control of Torque Converter-E4OD
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 21:47:56 -0500

I managed to save these instructions, and now I share them once again.
(Thanks to Dana B.)

ATO transmission said, find the Purple Wire with a Yellow Stripe coming
from the computer, and passe near the brake pedal. (I myself looked here,
and opted for plan b) This wire is the ground connection for the TC lockup
solenoid. You can toggle this wire inline and have the ability to enable or
defeat the TC Lockup. Was recommended disable in town, and enable on
highway, similar to OD. If you can disable it for 10-20 minutes without a
check engine light, you're good to go. If you get a light, then the 'puter
is too smart and you are SOL.

Usually won't work after '93.

>post #2 (plan b)

Under the dash is too tough. I couldn't find it there. So look here:
Find the harness plug on the passenger side of the tranny. Follow that
harness! It goes to the driver side frame rail and forward, in a hard
plastic loom on it. (On my '90 F-350 7.3/E4OD I got it on the fore and aft
run on the frame rail) dig those wires out and find the Purple with Yellow
stripe. There will be purple with orange as well, but get the
purple/yellow. Cut the wire, and crimp on bullet connectors, so you can
undo this easily if neccesary. Ruun two wires into cab to a toggle or
rocker switch, with "on" as connected, and "off" as an open circuit. Try
it. (I did, and am VERY glad I went to the trouble to do it!)

>Guys, I asked a couple times to get this info again, but didn't, so here
it is for the new guys<

Consise version of Dana Bs two posts. Ask me if you need any more info.

Dave H.
'90 F-350 CC LWB Knapheide Service Body and Tommy Lift 7.3/E4OD The
BEAST!
'91 F-150 SC LWB Crossbed Toolbox and Tommy Lift 5.8/E4OD Dads
'92 F-150 SC SWB Crossbed Toolbox 5.0/E4OD Sisters


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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 19:51:54 -0700
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: general ?

At 10:33 PM 5/3/00 -0400, you wrote:
>i have a 351w and i am looking on getting a 4bbl intake for it...will the 302
>intake fit on it, or is it too different?
>nick


Nope...351 is wider
chuck


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From: "Dave Harmier" pdq.net>
Subject: Re: Bell sound at front wheel.
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 22:29:36 -0500

In a message dated 5/3/00 12:45:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ObertSconstellation.navy.mil writes:

<< I can also hear it if I kick the top of my left front tire. I
tried having a friend kick it while I tried to locate the sound but we
couldn't find it. We took the tire off and checked the brake but that's
not
it. I'm thinking maybe the bearings have no grease left. Anybody got a
clue what this could be?

Thanks,
Scott >>

I can speak from absolute experience. It was a booger to find, but the
washer that holds the bottom of the spring (as well as the radius rod to
the I beam!) was quite loose. I think it was a 1 1/8" wrench, tightened it,
and definitely felt and heard a difference. CHECK THAT BOLT!!!!

Dave H.
Houston


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From: sliknessmindspring.com
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 13:41:00 -0400
Subject: Re: general ?

The 302 intake will not fit your 351W. The 351W is wider and the deck is also taller than the 302. There is not a lot of interchangeablity between the two engines.

Slik

> i have a 351w and i am looking on getting a 4bbl intake for it...will the 302 intake fit on it, or is it too different?
nick
82 351w in a
85 f150 xl 4x4 w/ a T-18


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