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80-96-list Digest Mon, 01 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 076

In This Issue:
Hello, "new" F-250 and a choke issue
Re: Hello, "new" F-250 and a choke issue
Re: Hello, "new" F-250 and a choke issue
Brake Upgrades
Re: Brake Upgrades
ADMIN: Harley-Davidson F-150
high miles
Re: high miles
Greg's Ignition Switch Woes
Another clutch question
Re: high miles
Re: high miles
Re: high miles
Re: Heavy clutch
Re: Greg's Ignition Switch Woes
Re: high miles
Re: high miles

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Date: 1 May 00 11:51:01 PDT
From: Tim Clevenger usa.net>
Subject: Hello, "new" F-250 and a choke issue

Hi all,

A rapid turn of events takes me away from the small-list ('86 Ranger 2.3L with
201,000 miles died) and into the 80-96 list ("new" F-250.)

I just bought a 1985 F-250 longbed, with dual tanks, 460 and 4-speed (granny
low) manual. The truck has sat through the winter (including a couple of
snowfalls), but the interior is in great shape, it drives great and there are
no serious mechanical issues.

A new battery and new rear brakes brings it almost to perfection. My
remaining issue is a cold-start issue: The thing floods when I try to
cold-start it in the morning. The previous owner basically showed me how to
work around the issue: Remove the air-cleaner and stick something in the
carburetor to hold the butterfly open while I crank it. It will then start
immediately and run without problem (except the occasional stop at stoplights;
I will be going through the plugs this weekend.)

I assume the choke is the issue. I'm pressing it all the way to the floor a
couple of times, and then starting with my foot off the gas, and it doesn't
seem to help. Where can I look to assure the choke is working correctly, and
if not, to get it working? I'm going to get some choke cleaner and shoot the
moving parts in the carburetor opening to get the gum out, and I'm also
running all my errands in it to work some of the aged fuel out of it, and when
I have one tank empty and the other one close to empty, I'll fill them both
with fresh fuel, and that may take care of the stoplight issues. Anything
else I should check?

By the way, fuel mileage aside, this is a damn nice truck. I drive up Highway
330 to get home (Big Bear area) and I never have to downshift from fourth gear
during the whole 18 mile trip.

Regards,

Tim Clevenger

85 F-250 7.5L 4-speed (258,000 miles)
86 Ranger 2.3L 5-speed (201,000 miles) (dead)
99 Geo Metro 1.3L 5-speed (26,000 miles)
86 Honda Helix scooter (24,500 miles)

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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:36:50 -0400
From: flagship worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Hello, "new" F-250 and a choke issue

Tim,

Next time the engine is cold, take the air cleaner off so you can see
the carb area. The choke should be wide open. Have someone depress
the gas pedal one time. The choke (butterfly plate) should snap
closed. Now, crank the engine. There is a small device called a choke
pull off (or choke vacuum diaphram) that is on the side of the carb.
Watch it as your friend starts the motor. As soon as it starts or even
cranks a while, it should open the choke just a little. If it does not,
the engine floods or smokes real bad until the engine warms and opens
the choke. If the rod coming out of the choke pull off moves but does
not open the choke, then you need only adjust the linkage by putting
bends in the linkage to shorten the rod thereby pulling more when it
moves. If the rod doesn't move at all, either it lost it's vacuum
source (disconnected or rotted hoses) or the part needs to be replaced
(just a few dollars as I recall). Hope this helps.



Tim Clevenger wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> A rapid turn of events takes me away from the small-list ('86 Ranger 2.3L with
> 201,000 miles died) and into the 80-96 list ("new" F-250.)
>
> I just bought a 1985 F-250 longbed, with dual tanks, 460 and 4-speed (granny
> low) manual. The truck has sat through the winter (including a couple of
> snowfalls), but the interior is in great shape, it drives great and there are
> no serious mechanical issues.
>
> A new battery and new rear brakes brings it almost to perfection. My
> remaining issue is a cold-start issue: The thing floods when I try to
> cold-start it in the morning. The previous owner basically showed me how to
> work around the issue: Remove the air-cleaner and stick something in the
> carburetor to hold the butterfly open while I crank it. It will then start
> immediately and run without problem (except the occasional stop at stoplights;
> I will be going through the plugs this weekend.)
>
> I assume the choke is the issue. I'm pressing it all the way to the floor a
> couple of times, and then starting with my foot off the gas, and it doesn't
> seem to help. Where can I look to assure the choke is working correctly, and
> if not, to get it working? I'm going to get some choke cleaner and shoot the
> moving parts in the carburetor opening to get the gum out, and I'm also
> running all my errands in it to work some of the aged fuel out of it, and when
> I have one tank empty and the other one close to empty, I'll fill them both
> with fresh fuel, and that may take care of the stoplight issues. Anything
> else I should check?
>
> By the way, fuel mileage aside, this is a damn nice truck. I drive up Highway
> 330 to get home (Big Bear area) and I never have to downshift from fourth gear
> during the whole 18 mile trip.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Clevenger
>
> 85 F-250 7.5L 4-speed (258,000 miles)
> 86 Ranger 2.3L 5-speed (201,000 miles) (dead)
> 99 Geo Metro 1.3L 5-speed (26,000 miles)
> 86 Honda Helix scooter (24,500 miles)
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> message.

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From: Mike Persell home.com>
Subject: Re: Hello, "new" F-250 and a choke issue
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 13:16:39 -0500

On Fri, 06 Jun 2036, you wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> A rapid turn of events takes me away from the small-list ('86 Ranger 2.3L with
> 201,000 miles died) and into the 80-96 list ("new" F-250.)

Congratulations, sounds like a great find.

> I assume the choke is the issue. I'm pressing it all the way to the floor a
> couple of times, and then starting with my foot off the gas, and it doesn't
> seem to help. Where can I look to assure the choke is working correctly, and
> if not, to get it working? I'm going to get some choke cleaner and shoot the
> moving parts in the carburetor opening to get the gum out, and I'm also
> running all my errands in it to work some of the aged fuel out of it, and when
> I have one tank empty and the other one close to empty, I'll fill them both
> with fresh fuel, and that may take care of the stoplight issues. Anything
> else I should check?

I would suspect a couple of things. 1) The choke pull-off, a vacuum
operated device to pull the choke open a little as the engine runs. 2)
The choke oven is not heating up, could be as easy as a fuse. 3) The fast
idle speed is too slow. 4) A combination of all the above

Mike Persell
85 F-150 (who I thought had a 302 until I bought belts and hoses this
week-end and only the 351 parts fit)

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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 17:51:49 -0700
From: Jim Cross telus.net>
Subject: Brake Upgrades

I will be towing behind my F350 and want to find out
about brake upgrades
If anyone has done this please advise any sites that have brake upgrade
packages


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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 20:53:57 EDT
Subject: Re: Brake Upgrades

Try www.stainlesssteelbrakes.com, they have MANY upgrade kits for many
vehicles.
Later,
Wayne Foy
94 Flareside SC
1999 Fun Ford Weekend
Racing series
#2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA

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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 22:23:13 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Harley-Davidson F-150

Two new press releases are on the web site:

"Ford of Canada announces production details, pricing for Harley-Davidson F-150 pickup"

"Patricia Reid named new manager of Ford's Ontario Truck Plant"

Both are available on the top-left of the main site screen.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts



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From: "Hummer Luvver" hotmail.com>
Subject: high miles
Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 04:04:32 GMT

I know I won't be anywhere close to the highest, but I just rolled over
246,000 on an original 300I-6 and a 5-spd. Anyone else got some seriously
high miles out there? I know there's got to be some really long runners. I
just wanna know how long.---Nathan---'88 F-150 XLT Lariat
________________________________________________________________________


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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:12:27 -0700
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: high miles

At 04:04 AM 5/2/00 +0000, you wrote:
>I know I won't be anywhere close to the highest, but I just rolled over
>246,000 on an original 300I-6 and a 5-spd.

Hi Nathan,
Would you or anyone else on this list know I could put a 5-spd in my 86,
without having to change anything else?
In my net searching I cannot find much about potential swaps and the
library reference books "don't know it all"
either.
Thanks,
Chuck

Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
86 F150 300 cu in six banger
FAX 1-310-822-6815


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From: "Harris, Scott" dfwairport.com>
Subject: Greg's Ignition Switch Woes
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:18:00 -0500

Greg, I feel your pain. But you are doing the easy way if the JB Weld will
hold that linkeage secure. This is a common break in these years, mine is
'85. It is the interlock for the rod and the wheel and shift lock. Thought
I had outsmarted mine when it broke and the ignition was in the battery
position. Thought, i'll just jump the solenoid which worked great till I
tried to shift the damn thing! Knew it was a common problem when the Ford
Parts guy reached in a drawer and handed it to me without looking it up.

If the JB Weld doesn't hold you are looking at many hours of steering wheel
disassembly and reassembly, loads of fun!

Good Luck!

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From: "Harris, Scott" dfwairport.com>
Subject: Another clutch question
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:21:12 -0500

Just got a '96 F250 manual 5 speed. I was wondering the same about clutch
replacement. What does Ford charge for this replacement? Or is it
something straightforward enough to tackle myself?

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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:48:19 -0700
From: Jason Derra internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: high miles

I swapped a ZF 5 speed in place of a T18 for a customer in an 88 Bronco. It
was pretty straight forward. I can't imagine much difference with an
earlier truck.
Jason

chuck sanborn wrote:

> At 04:04 AM 5/2/00 +0000, you wrote:
> >I know I won't be anywhere close to the highest, but I just rolled over
> >246,000 on an original 300I-6 and a 5-spd.
>
> Hi Nathan,
> Would you or anyone else on this list know I could put a 5-spd in my 86,
> without having to change anything else?
> In my net searching I cannot find much about potential swaps and the
> library reference books "don't know it all"
> either.
> Thanks,
> Chuck
>
> Chuck Sanborn
> Torrance, CA
> 86 F150 300 cu in six banger
> FAX 1-310-822-6815
>
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> the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the
> message.




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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:50:17 -0700
From: Jason Derra internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: high miles

It isn't a 80-96, but I have almost 300K miles on my 77 F150 4x4 with a '70 429
that was put in when the truck was brand new. All that has been done was 2
timing chains and basic maintenance.
Jason

Hummer Luvver wrote:

> I know I won't be anywhere close to the highest, but I just rolled over
> 246,000 on an original 300I-6 and a 5-spd. Anyone else got some seriously
> high miles out there? I know there's got to be some really long runners. I
> just wanna know how long.---Nathan---'88 F-150 XLT Lariat
> ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> ==========================================================
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> the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the
> message.




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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:54:31 -0700
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: high miles

At 09:48 PM 5/1/00 -0700, you wrote:
>I swapped a ZF 5 speed in place of a T18 for a customer in an 88 Bronco

Maybe a more pointed question is what I need to ask so that I am understood,
which is not an easy thing for most people to do (understand me, that is) :-)
Are the bellhousings on the 4.9L the same for all the available transmissions
from 1965 to 1999? Would this have been one of Fords "better ideas", to leave
something constant throughout the years?


Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
86 F150 300 cu in six banger
FAX 1-310-822-6815


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From: Mc Gregor JAMES mossgas.co.za>
Subject: Re: Heavy clutch
Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:57:41 +0200


My 81F150,300I6,4x4,SWB clutch is low and heavy.

The clutch is mechanical (surprise as my76F1002x4 clutch is hydraulic)and
requires so much effort that the engine moves slightly when the clutch is
disengaged (pushed down).

There does not seem to be room for adjustment on the adjustment lever.

Is this normal or does this need fixing?

James



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From: Greg Carter entrust.com>
Subject: Re: Greg's Ignition Switch Woes
Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:40:35 -0400

JB Weld didn't hold... It may have if I hadn't bent the bracket a bit
trying to get it back in, so it didn't slide all that easy, doh!

Yep went to dealer and they had the part in stock. Which lead me to the
same conclusions... this must be a common problem.

I'll try to write a tech article on it since it seems to be common enough.
Thanks.

Greg Carter
Entrust Technologies - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.entrust.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/buildup/dana60.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Harris, Scott [mailto:SHarris dfwairport.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 12:18 AM
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: [80-96-list] Greg's Ignition Switch Woes


Greg, I feel your pain. But you are doing the easy way if the JB Weld will
hold that linkeage secure. This is a common break in these years, mine is
'85. It is the interlock for the rod and the wheel and shift lock. Thought
I had outsmarted mine when it broke and the ignition was in the battery
position. Thought, i'll just jump the solenoid which worked great till I
tried to shift the damn thing! Knew it was a common problem when the Ford
Parts guy reached in a drawer and handed it to me without looking it up.

If the JB Weld doesn't hold you are looking at many hours of steering wheel
disassembly and reassembly, loads of fun!

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 08:28:57 -0700
From: Jason Derra internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: high miles

No, the bellhousings are different. You need to look for one equipped with a 6
cyl or 302, 351W.
Jason

chuck sanborn wrote:

> At 09:48 PM 5/1/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >I swapped a ZF 5 speed in place of a T18 for a customer in an 88 Bronco
>
> Maybe a more pointed question is what I need to ask so that I am understood,
> which is not an easy thing for most people to do (understand me, that is) :-)
> Are the bellhousings on the 4.9L the same for all the available transmissions
> from 1965 to 1999? Would this have been one of Fords "better ideas", to leave
> something constant throughout the years?
>
> Chuck Sanborn
> Torrance, CA
> 86 F150 300 cu in six banger
> FAX 1-310-822-6815
>
> ==========================================================
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> the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the
> message.




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Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 09:03:33 -0700
From: Chuck Sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: high miles

At 08:28 AM 5/2/00 -0700, you wrote:
>No, the bellhousings are different. You need to look for one equipped
....


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