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80-96-list Digest Sat, 29 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 074

In This Issue:
Re: Leaking front tank solutions
AOD going in soon...
Re: ignition switch too hard
Re: Oil Pan Leak
Intro and Ignition Switch Reply
Re: Intro and Ignition Switch Reply
Owner's Manual
Re: air conditioning gas
T-10 in an F150?
Re: T-10 in an F150?
Re: T-10 in an F150?
Re: AOD Reliability
Re: Ignition Switch Too Hard
Re: Ignition Switch Too Hard

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From: "Nick Ranone" uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Leaking front tank solutions
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 08:37:03 -0600

I have found this to be true for several areas of my truck. I crawl under
it regularly with a hose to wash out all of the build up. I also drop my
spare tire regularly to clean the hardware there. Preventitive maintenance
is the key. Watch out for dirt build up!
Nick Ranone
91 F150
Aurora CO

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well upon taking the tank out I found that the plastic cover that goes on
the
front of the tank had been housing some dirt and Jersey clay, which
in turn houses moisture, which creates rust. So, rather than replace the
tank I got it all clean and used POR-15 Gas tank sealer to do the inside and
POR-15 rust preventative paint on the outside, which is supposedly crack and
scratch resistant. I won't put the plastic cover back on, mainly because I
don't want a repeat of what happened before. So that's the deal, it looks
great, we'll see what happens when I put it in.

JOe
Lost in jersey
92 Nite
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From: "Moe Gendron" ev1.net>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 10:01:01 -0500
Subject: AOD going in soon...

Hey Guys,
I'm gettin ready to install an AOD into my 85 F150. I
replaced the 300/6 with a 95 mustang 302HO crate engine, and the
3-sp. is not good for freeway drivin. Anyway the AOD is comming
out of a 83 TownCar, Grandpa had the AOD rebuilt, drove 1000mi.,
then ran the car into a ditch and bent the frame. Is a AOD a AOD?,
or are they geared different for different vehicles? I haven't checked
the rear end on the TownCar yet to see what it is, but the truck rear
is a 3.08, I'm hoping a 3.08 will be ideal for this application, mostly
freeway drivin 75-85mph for long periods, now at 70+ mph I'm turnin
3000+rpm's, what a gas hog, 150mi.out of the front tank (19.0gal.) I
bought a $130 AOD cable FORD said I would need.
Any suggestions, advice, or gotcha's?
Hope I don't need to change the rear end......

Thanks,
Moe
NW Houston
Q45
Maxima
Porsche 911T
85 F150

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From: "DannyF" ev1.net>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 11:18:11 -0500
Subject: Re: ignition switch too hard

> Oddly it was after I had the recall work that my switch was hard to
> turn,
> and the acc position stopped working... Should have brought it back to
> get
> fixed right. I was too busy at the time... that was 2 years ago (but
> only
> 10k km). Hopefully I'll get it right...

Sheesh. Thats exactly the reason I'm still nervous about getting the
recalled switch replaced in my '90 F150. I've kept the recall notice
right here for 2 years and am still afraid the dealer will screw
something up when replacing.

BTW, this truck DID catch fire because of the switch! It was approx
3 years old when the previous owner(who I know well) happened to
go out front one night and noticed a "glowing" in the cab. After
putting the fire out, most of the interior/wiring had to be replaced.

This truck was parked under a wood framed carport. Hate to think
what the outcome would have been if the owner hadn't caught it
early.

Ford blamed an alarm installation(can we say lying thieves), State
Farm paid. I have no idea if State Farm pursued action against
Ford.

Danny
fitz011 ev1.net

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From: "Serian" flashmail.com>
Subject: Re: Oil Pan Leak
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 12:27:49 -0400

> oil was leaking from where a hole rusted through the side of
> the oil pan. I need a temporary "quick fix". I figure that there
> is an epoxy compound I could use for the short term.
> Any suggestions?

Gas tank repair putty works rather well for this sort of thing,
even on mildly greasy surfaces. If the hole is relatively big,
coat small piece of steel screen (such as out of an old screen
door) and use that as a self adhesive patch.
Every auto parts store that I have been in carries the putty, and
a number of department stores do as well.



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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 12:41:59 -0700
From: Paul Harp mindspring.com>
Subject: Intro and Ignition Switch Reply

Hi everyone. I've been lurking for a few months and thought this thread would be a
good time to introduce myself. Last October I bought an '89 F150 4x4 with a 300I6, 4
sp manual tranny, 180K miles, and all the rust I could possibly ask for! I normally
drive a mustang but recently moved to New England and didn't think the car would be a
good choice for winter driving.

Anyway, the suggestion to make sure your truck has had the recall (# 95S28) work done
is a good one from a safety standpoint but it will not affect the "stickiness" in your
ignition switch. The recall work does involve replacement of an ignition switch
assembly but this particular assembly is located under the dash, not in the steering
column. My ignition switch also has a gummy feeling, especially in cold weather, and
I recenly had the recall work performed. But I had been given advance notice that the
recall work would not correct the problem in the column and it didn't.

Sounds like I won't be the only one yanking steering wheels to work on ignition
problems this spring!

Paul Harp


> ------------------------------
>
> From: "DannyF" ev1.net>
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:21:39 -0500
> Subject: Re: Ignition switch too hard
>
> > My 89 F350 ignition switch is getting really hard to turn
> > to start the truck
> > Almost painful
> > Has anyone had this and is there a fix?
>
> You might me eligible for this common recall. Its Ford recall #
> 95S28. Its free from the dealer where they replace the switch due
> to a possible fire hazard in the contact points.
>
> You can call a Ford dealer w/your VIN # to verify.


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From: FULSZBRONC aol.com
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:16:12 EDT
Subject: Re: Intro and Ignition Switch Reply

pharp mindspring.com writes:

<< My ignition switch also has a gummy feeling, especially in cold weather,
and
I recenly had the recall work performed. But I had been given advance
notice that the
recall work would not correct the problem in the column and it didn't.

Sounds like I won't be the only one yanking steering wheels to work on
ignition
problems this spring! >>

This seems to be a very common complaint - but easily and cheaply remedied.
I had one apart a few years ago and it was so sticky that the switch wouldn't
return to the run-mode on its own after starting - which usually left the
gauges deactivated and radio inop...as well as most other key operated
accessories. I removed the steering wheel and cleaned & lubed the tumbler
assembly and all is well. I'm not sure what kind of lube Ford used
originally but I used white lithium and this winter it was still smooth -
even on those sub-zero mornings.
Alex

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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 11:21:14 -0700
From: Jim Cross telus.net>
Subject: Owner's Manual

Many thanks to those who helped on my ignition switch problem

I have had a Ford shop manual for my 89 F350 on order for 9 months
The dealer now advises it is out of print.

Is there another manual available that is as complete as the OEM one?

Thanks
Jim


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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 06:19:21 +1000
From: les williams cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: air conditioning gas

Hi Jim,
Once again, thanks for your input. I did hit the web first, and as you see,
press releases written by the Co. really count for nought, imho. Asking the
question to this group, I was hoping to find someone that would have given it
the 'Thumbs Up' of approval.
The claimed better performance over R-134a was the main incentive for it's use,
from my point of view.
I must confess the other product they are peddling certainly sounded sus ... an
emzyme fuel additive !!??? Ooo Bugger ... But maybe I have got it wrong .....

... still having fun in a Ford ....

regards
Les
Lost in the Land of OZ


Jim Cannon wrote:

> Les-
> A quick search on "SOLPOWER SP34e" kicked out 9 web pages where it is
> mentioned. The following one is a press release (which they wrote):
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ens.lycos.com/e-wire/march/mar039902.html
>
> Here's the company's site, but it is also very self-serving:
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.solpower.com/
>
> Some refrigeration professionals are skeptical:
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.aircondition.com/wwwboard/alternative/messages/1208.html
>
> One post says this gas is about 98.5% R134a. If it is, I don't think it
> will carry the oil like they claim and it will burn up your compressor. In
> fact, it is hard to justify the price if it is essentially all R134a. I
> have become skeptical of most of these new "drop in replacements". I do
> not think such a thing exists.
> Jim Cannon
> Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech
> '29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!"
> '80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:08:43 -0700
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: T-10 in an F150?

Cross posted to get the best results from Ford types:

AllData tells me my 86 F150, 4.9L could use a T-18 or T-19...
Right now it's got a damn 3 on the tree Ford tranny.
I can get a T-10 for a real good price (read cheep) and was
wondering if that would work without having to get a new bell-
housing. Or, would the T-10 bellhousing from a 64 Comet
bolt up to the six banger truck motor?
Thanks,
Chuck
Chuck Sanborn FCA# 07175
Torrance, CA
1964 Falcon Sprint, 289 w/351W heads, etc
86 F150 300 cu in six banger (Hers)



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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:55:47 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy uswest.net>
Subject: Re: T-10 in an F150?

Unless the Comet came with a 4.9L six, the bell housing will not
bolt up. The T-10 was never in a Ford Truck, so it is doubtful
that the transmission will fit.

Bob


chuck sanborn wrote:

> Cross posted to get the best results from Ford types:
>
> AllData tells me my 86 F150, 4.9L could use a T-18 or T-19...
> Right now it's got a damn 3 on the tree Ford tranny.
> I can get a T-10 for a real good price (read cheep) and was
> wondering if that would work without having to get a new bell-
> housing. Or, would the T-10 bellhousing from a 64 Comet
> bolt up to the six banger truck motor?
> Thanks,
> Chuck
> Chuck Sanborn FCA# 07175
> Torrance, CA
> 1964 Falcon Sprint, 289 w/351W heads, etc
> 86 F150 300 cu in six banger (Hers)
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:00:33 -0700
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: T-10 in an F150?

At 08:55 PM 4/29/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Unless the Comet came with a 4.9L six, the bell housing will not
>bolt up. The T-10 was never in a Ford Truck, so it is doubtful
>that the transmission will fit.
Ahhh, just read that the T-10 is not that desirable anyway due to
lack of availability of parts, etc. Maybe I'll just look for the T-18/19
that was made for the truck. Either that or the C4 out of my Falcon :-)
Thanks Bob,
Chuck


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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:19:26 -0700
From: Marv & Marge lafn.org>
Subject: Re: AOD Reliability

LGRanchaol.com wrote:
> With a few people saying that their AODs have been good. I am interested in
> trying to gather some data. What is the year of the AOD in your truck and did
> it die or run past 70K?

119,000 on an '89 F-250's AOD w/302. P/O changed fluid and filter every 30Kmi.
I just did it. Added a neodymimum magnet into the inside of the pan, (an A-604
Mopig trick, they need ALL the help they can get) and added an external spin-on
filter into the cooler lines up front. I'm using an AC engine oil filter there,
but Baldwin Filters say they have a filter available more specifically suited to
trans and other hydraulic fluid that I'm gonna' change it to. Their number BT-111.
Now, if I can only find a Baldwin outlet here in L.A. Trans still be shiftin' OK.

-Marv-

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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:34:02 -0700
From: Marv & Marge lafn.org>
Subject: Re: Ignition Switch Too Hard

Somebody originally wrote:
My 89 F350 ignition switch is getting really hard to turn to start the truck
Almost painful. Has anyone had this and is there a fix?

I've got just the opposite problem. P/O had the recall done, but the dealer's
tech messed it up. When I bought the truck I found out that it does not take
a key to start it. Something about the "rod". Anybody got any ideas before I
spend megabucks with an auto locksmith? It's as if the key cylinder has no
pins, but I can't remove the key if the cylinder is turned to "on", so it must
be pinned. What gives? What am I looking at, once I get the wheel off?

-Marv-

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From: Scrangler83aol.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 10:08:47 EDT
Subject: Re: Ignition Switch Too Hard

What was wrong no my truck turned out to be SUPER easy, the key was just very
worn, i had a new key made and the ignition turned like new, heck, a new key
only costs like 1.05 so ya may as well give it a try, worked for me

Tom

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