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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 06:36:44 -0400 (EDT)
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In This Issue:
Ignition switch too hard
Re: The Warranty Group
Speaking of AODs...
Re: Aftermarket A/C
air conditioning gas
ADMIN: Server problems
Re: Speaking of AODs...
Re: air conditioning gas
Bench seat adjuster
Re: Speaking of AODs...
Front Wheel Bearings
Re: Front Wheel Bearings
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 08:41:59 -0700
From: Jim Cross telus.net>
Subject: Ignition switch too hard
My 89 F350 ignition switch is getting really hard to turn
to start the truck
Has anyone had this and is there a fix?
From: BAH NWC.EDU
Subject: Re: The Warranty Group
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 08:45:49 -0500
>From: "Justen Noakes" texas.net>
>Subject: The Warranty Group
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 21:25:08 -0500
>I received a mailing today regarding an extended,
>unlimited mileage warranty that I could purchase
>for my '95 F150, as long as it has under 100K
>miles (which mine is).
>The cost for option 1 is $108.00 a year and
>$158.50 for option 2. It also includes free
?towing and car rental coverage.
>This sounds too good to be true...
I think you've pretty well summed it up!
I'd hide my wallet real quick.
IMHO, there is no way an after-market insurer
can provide legitimate extended warranty
protection at those rates/conditions.
I gather that the work can only be done at
authorized garages...and I would almost
guarantee that MOST claims will be denied.
(Read the fine print in the contract re:
conditions...does it require documentation
of regular service, etc.?)
Save your $108 and set it aside for repairs.
Also, what are the deductibles for those
options? (How much will you have to pay
for each covered repair?)
Since the factory extended warranty (which
must be purchased before the expiration of
the original warranty and can't be purchased
for more than 6 yrs./100,000 miles, total)
runs $1500-1700 and a couple of major after-
market insurers that I'm familiar with are
similar (slightly lower cost, but with more
restrictive approval policies), I think you
can get an idea of the risks they think are
Darkwing (my '93 Bronco XLT) currently has an E4OD behind its 302, and I've
been considering a mass-air conversion for a long time. The only thing
that's been keeping me from it has been the fact that Ford doesn't offer a
kit for my combo - if I want to do it, I have to go third party.
Given this, I'm considering yanking the E4OD and replacing it with a
This poses two questions:
a) What are the upsides/downsides of doing this?
b) Is an AOD an AOD? No differences between truck/auto AODs?
> Well don't tell my '67 about those leaky clamps 'cause it's been holding
> freon real well after
> 5-6 years, in contrast to my swell Explorer crimp-ons and those # !!
> spring connectors which
> leaked after 3
Always seems to be an exception to the general rule...
Explorer AC in certain year ranges is well documented...
Spring-lock connectors...another general rule...most WILL leak
I have a 1989 F-250 4WD and have noticed that the frame rails
under the bed have started to rust. It doesn't appear too bad, looks
like mostly surface rust. My question is this, I have heard many
warnings about not applying aftermarket undercoatings as they are
a fire hazard if applied incorrectly. I have considered just wire
brushing the rust off and painting but really would like a longer
lasting solution to the problem. Has anyone applied aftermarket
undercoating and, if so, can you offer any suggestions?
As a new owner of a 96 F150 5.0 SC. I am wondering which is the best exhaust to install on the
truck. My experience with the newer models is limited as I haven't been around them alot. Most of
my catalogs at home list up to a 95 F150 and then list 97 and up. Why is that and where can I find
exhaust systems for my truck. Also why are the headers etc. so darned expensive???? any help would
be greatly appreciated.
65 F100 460 C6
96 F150 5.0 SC
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger.
A friend of mine has a 90 F150 (4X2) that needs a new e-brake cable since
the old one has rusted to the point where it won't move. We live in
Vancouver (BC) on the "wet coast" so some type of cable that doesn't let
water in would be an great idea. I was wondering if you experts could point
me towards a better cable.
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:30:34 +1000
From: les williams cyber.net.au>
Subject: air conditioning gas
Has anybody had any experience with, or using SP-34e refrigerant ? Any reason
not to try or use the product ??
It's about half the cost of R-12 & is suppose to be 100% compatible in R-12
While on the topic. Anyone ever see 460 shorty headers for a 95 250?
Bassani and JBA both don't.
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:05:58 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Server problems
The server was down for an undetermined period of time. The log
directory filled up on the system and caused all services which
use log files to stop (mail, web, ftp, etc.). The situation has
been corrected and safeguards put into place to prevent future
occurances. I've been out of commission with a stomach flu for
the past two days and was not aware of the problem until this
Most AOD self distruct at about 70,000 miles. You rebuild them and then they
quit again at 140,000. I hit the 70K on my 86 near home. I hit 70K on my 1990
in the desert of Utah, far from home. I am working on having the 140K come
up for the 1990 while I am near home, but it will happen.
Only the last models of the AOD were any good, so make sure of what you are
asking to do.
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:47:09 -0500
From: Jim Cannon gtalumni.org>
Subject: Re: air conditioning gas
At 27-04-00 04:30, Les stopped his aimless wandering around Oz and wrote:
>Has anybody had any experience with, or using SP-34e refrigerant ? Any reason
>not to try or use the product ??
>It's about half the cost of R-12 & is suppose to be 100% compatible in R-12
You need to try to find out the composition of the refrigerant is. It might
be marketed in the US under a different name. Sounds like someone
intentially named it similar to R-134a so as to confuse people and make
them think it was similar. You need to be careful. Some of the homebrew
freon replacements have a lot of propane and butane in them.
I'm not saying you can not or should not use propane and butane in your A/C
system, just do it knowingly and with an understanding of any additional
risks you might be taking on.
Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!"
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
For the time being I have installed a piece of coat hanger wire attaced
to a 2" dia, 8" long piece of dowling to adjust the passenger side of the
seat. Now this can be a real pain when your by yourself, and my wife
would have to first adjust the driver side, then get out, go to the other side
and pull that wire and then start all over again to get the seat to it's full
My question after a lengthy intro is:
What attaches the two addjusing mechanisms...a piece of multi-stranded
cable or a solid rod? I can't tell my looking a the manual pictures and the
part number does me no good as I haven't got a parts book and I forgot to
call my brother-in-law, the Ford parts guy. ;(
86 F150 300 cu in six banger
FAX 1-801-405-1720 or
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:50:58 -0700
From: Jason Derra internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of AODs...
Why would you want to get rid of the E4OD? It is built stronger than a AOD.
Ferino, Chris wrote:
> Darkwing (my '93 Bronco XLT) currently has an E4OD behind its 302, and I've
> been considering a mass-air conversion for a long time. The only thing
> that's been keeping me from it has been the fact that Ford doesn't offer a
> kit for my combo - if I want to do it, I have to go third party.
> Given this, I'm considering yanking the E4OD and replacing it with a
> straight AOD.
> This poses two questions:
> a) What are the upsides/downsides of doing this?
> b) Is an AOD an AOD? No differences between truck/auto AODs?
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Just a reminder for anybody with high mileage on their trucks and who haven't
had recent wheel bearing service or replacement - get those things checked!
I've been experiencing some whining sounds from the right front of my truck,
plus a low brake pedal. I decided to try adjusting the rear drums this
morning after arriving in the parking lot at work, so I backed up a couple of
times and hit the brakes. After the third time there were some very violent
sounding noises in the front end, so I proceeded to shift into first and park
the truck. The front brakes were doing wierd things and the handling was all
I called a towing service to have the car taken to my brake and wheel guy.
When the tow truck operator lifted the front of the trruck up, the fron wheel
was all wobbly. We popped the hubcap and wheel bearing dust cap and... Plop!
Out fell the locknut, flat washer, and outer bearing race. The cotter pin
was still thru the hole in the spindle! I felt da**ed lucky to be alive.
Interestingly, the bearing appeared to be well greased and there was no smell
of having overheated. At 193k, I think it just wore out.
'82 F-150 S'Cab, 300ci, 4spd OD, 193k
From: "Michael R. Dunbar" vtc.vsc.edu>
Subject: Re: Front Wheel Bearings
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:44:40 -0400
Hearing this now puts a bit of urgency on my front wheel bearings. I knew
mine were going because I've noticed a high pitched sound coming from the
left front wheel that wasn't related to the brakes, as well as some
side-to-side play. With 162k miles on my 89, I knew I needed to change the
bearings for a while, and I've purchased all the required components, I
simply haven't had time. I think I'll definitely put it into my schedule
this weekend, even if the bearings aren't shot, putting new ones in isn't
going to do me any harm. Thanks for the reminder.
89 F-150 XLT Lariat
White River Jct., Vermont
"Just remember, the wheel's spinning but the hamster's dead"
At 07:22 AM 4/27/00 -0700, you wrote:
>As a new owner of a 96 F150 5.0 SC. I am wondering which is the best exhaust
>to install on the
>truck. My experience with the newer models is limited as I haven't been
>around them alot. Most of
>my catalogs at home list up to a 95 F150 and then list 97 and up. Why is
>that and where can I find
>exhaust systems for my truck. Also why are the headers etc. so darned
>expensive???? any help would....To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User
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