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80-96-list Digest Mon, 24 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 070

In This Issue:
Whoops Sorry Chuck, I goofed
Re: Aftermarket A/C
Re: adjustable clutch rod
Re: Brakes
Re: Brakes
Re: Brakes
Re: 1981F1504by4,300cu I6,SWB,4speed
Re: 1981F1504by4,300cu I6,SWB,4speed
Re: NEED HELP!!!!! MOTOR STOPS RANDOMLY
Re: 1981F1504by4,300cu I6,SWB,4speed

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From: Fred Moreno dualcurve.com>
Subject: Whoops Sorry Chuck, I goofed
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:17:59 -0600


>Slammer wrote:
> MY TRUCK SHUTS OFF BY IT SELF

Uhhhh, Phred...I didn't write that :-|

Hi Chuck, and other members of the list, sorry but I was not paying
attention as to who wrote what, that happens when you only get 3 hours of
sleep...Can't wait for the school semester to be over with, and at this
stage I don't care anymore...

Has anyone seen my UPS delivery person? Still have not gotten my shocks
yet...maybe today when I get home, yeah, that's it, they'll be there waiting
for me, and I'll install them and fall asleep under the truck when I do the
back ones...maybe the spousal unit will just throw a blanket over me.

"Will work for functioning brain cells."

Phred


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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:58:06 -0500
From: a&b uab.campuscwix.net>
Subject: Re: Aftermarket A/C

Well I've put in a bunch of aftermarket a/c's. Used to be only a couple of folks that made
'em, from Texas I think, ARA and somebody else. The kits often had "gauge" clamps, sometimes
not. I put an ARA in my '67 Chevelle rag top a few years ago before the R-12 hysteria and it
had a mix of clamps. Probably somebody had borrowed from the kit. It has needed maybe a lb of
freon in 5 years, and will make your teeth hurt if it's on high. So there really isn't
anything unusual or wrong with it having a heater hose clamp. My wife's dead '90 F-150 and her
'96 F-250 and my Explorer are all factory air. Be thankful you don't have the Ford spring
connectors. I don't know what engineering geniuses were behind those, but they ought to blame
them for ozone depletion.
bg

Marv & Marge Miller wrote:

> Bill Garrett uab.campuscwix.net> wrote, in part:
>
> > May not be just that hose, but a hose clamp is ok. A/C hose clamps had a tang on 'em to
> > space how far back from the end to clamp it, but it was still a "heater hose clamp"
> > .Sometimes you can tell where a leak is 'cause the oil collects dirt/dust. If the hose
> > is wet or oily at the connection or in the middle it could be leaking there. May be
> > worth it to pay for a leak test given the cost of r-12.
>
> Bill, The clamp isn't the A/C type, with the "guage" tab, but a regular heater-hose clamp,
> which appears tight enough. And this may just be what the ARA guys had in the shop the
> day they did the install. No evidence of leaking, anywhere, but you never know.
> My original question was: Anybody else got this setup? Has yours got a hose clamp, too?
> I really want to compare mine to other ARA add-ons. Has your truck got this setup?
> Since the low-cutoff has been activated, I'm sure I could get the thing running by adding
> a pound, but I don't have a vampire if I need it, and I sure don't want to waste ANY.
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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:56:08 -0500
From: Buck Shoff sktc.net>
Subject: Re: adjustable clutch rod

Hi Bruce,
I saw your post on FTE about your clutch linkage on the 86 F150, and
wondered if you would mind if I asked you some questions about your
clutch. Thanks, Buck Shoff

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From: BanksRVA aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:23:27 EDT
Subject: Re: Brakes

In a message dated 4/24/00 5:31:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
FULSZBRONC aol.com writes:

<< Never pre-load the bearing unless the
manufacturer specifically requires it (rare). >>

Can you please explain what preloading the bearing is?
Thanks,
Joe

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From: FULSZBRONCaol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:54:01 EDT
Subject: Re: Brakes

<< << Never pre-load the bearing unless the
manufacturer specifically requires it (rare). >>

Can you please explain what preloading the bearing is?
Thanks,
Joe >>>>

In the simplest of terms, pre-loading the bearing means cranking down the
adjusting nut to the point that there is no end-play. Under most
circumstances, wheel bearings should have SOME free play - the opposite of
pre-load.


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From: BanksRVAaol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:59:07 EDT
Subject: Re: Brakes

In a message dated 4/24/00 11:55:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
FULSZBRONCaol.com writes:

<< In the simplest of terms, pre-loading the bearing means cranking down the
adjusting nut to the point that there is no end-play. Under most
circumstances, wheel bearings should have SOME free play - the opposite of
pre-load. >>

Thanks for the info.
Joe

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From: Mc Gregor JAMES mossgas.co.za>
Subject: Re: 1981F1504by4,300cu I6,SWB,4speed
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:00:29 +0200


This weekend I spent more time under my truck (mine now for 1 week)and saw
two plastic rectangular containers on the passenger side , towards the front
, below the radiator level , one above the other.Pipelines from these lead
to the carburetor / manifold assembly.The containers are heavy or securely
attached because I could not remove them with my Sunday afternoon effort.

What are these for , can I remove them or should I look at maintaining
them.My basic 4X2 F100 300cu F100 (assembled in South Africa)do not have
these fitted.

With my checking out the vehicle I noticed that the truck pulls away
strongly but 'tires' from around 60 mph , is this normal or characteristic
of the engine.

James



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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:11:20 -0700
From: Chris McKinnon cnx.net>
Subject: Re: 1981F1504by4,300cu I6,SWB,4speed

>
>This weekend I spent more time under my truck (mine now for 1 week)and saw
>two plastic rectangular containers on the passenger side , towards the front
>, below the radiator level , one above the other.Pipelines from these lead
>to the carburetor / manifold assembly.The containers are heavy or securely
>attached because I could not remove them with my Sunday afternoon effort.
>
>What are these for , can I remove them or should I look at maintaining
>them.My basic 4X2 F100 300cu F100 (assembled in South Africa)do not have
>these fitted.
>
These are (I think) the charcoal canisters for the emmission control system.
They should be held on bt a couple of bolt from the top. I think they are
remove and replace items. Since my truck is propaned I don't have any but
most list members do. They can tell you the rest of the story.
'84 F150 w/ original rust!
351W on propane
NP 435
NP 208 3.50LS
292K Km


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From: "Steve Schmeckpeper" home.com>
Subject: Re: NEED HELP!!!!! MOTOR STOPS RANDOMLY
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:28:07 -0500

I had this SAME problem.........and it turned out to be the Fuel Pump
'Inertia Cutoff Switch'. (supposed to prevent fires by cutting off fuel
pump in case of collision or rollover)
The engine would just die. Sometimes it would start right back up, others
I'd have to wait till the thing cooled down.
On checking things out was able to determine that NO FUEL was the problem.
Traced to the aforementioned switch and found the connector and wires were
burned lookin', so I replaced and problem solved.
On my truck, switch is in the cab on the firewall just to the left of the
steering column.

Smeck,
87 F150 302EFI (same as yours)

> MY TRUCK SHUTS OFF BY IT SELF. I WOULD BE DRIVIN
> AND IT WOULD JUST SHUT OFF,,,,SOMETIMES IT TURNS BACK ON...
> BUT MOST OF THE TIME IT STAYS OFF. THEN I HAVE TO CRANK
> ON IT. IT DOESNT SPUDDER , AND WHEN IT RUNS, IT RUNS
> GREAT. ITS AN 87 F-150 302 C-6



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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:44:50 -0500
From: Jim Cannon gtalumni.org>
Subject: Re: 1981F1504by4,300cu I6,SWB,4speed

At 25-04-00 03:00, James wrote:
>With my checking out the vehicle I noticed that the truck pulls away
>strongly but 'tires' from around 60 mph , is this normal or characteristic
>of the engine.

I have a 1980 with the I-6 engine, so it is probably setup very
similar. It will run strong for me up to 75 or 80 mph and still has
something left. It's an old engine, so I don't push it too hard.

If you feel you are losing it above 60, I'd suggest you check for partially
restricted exhaust system. If you still have catalytic converter on there,
it could be plugged. Since you do not have to worry about the EPA down
there, you can take it off. Also see if muffler (silencer) might be partly
collapsed inside. (See, I'm bilingual!)

My engine has a little 1-barrel carb, and that limits top speed and max HP.
I suspect it is the same on yours, but it should go well past 60
mph. After all, you have a good 5 litre engine there.

If these don't help, let us know and we can go into round two... more
obscure things to check.




Jim Cannon
Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!"
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8


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