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80-96-list Digest Mon, 14 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 007

In This Issue:
Re: Tie down points
Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help
Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help
Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help
TRYING TO GET OFF THE EMAIL LIST
Re: Coil question
Re: (No subject)Message-ID: <20000214.121235.-581321.0.mo
Re: Fuel Filter
Leaning tires
Re: Leaning tires
Re: Stalling when engine is hot
EGR tube replacement on '88 302 Bronco
Re: EGR tube replacement on '88 302 Bronco
Re: Leaning tires
Re: Leaning tires
Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help
Re: EGR tube replacement on '88 302 Bronco
Re: Catalytic Perverter
Re: ARB Air Lockers
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re - Front LSDs
F-150
Re: 80-96-list Digest V2000 #6
Re: Leaning tires
RE New Truck
RE Rear End
Re: Leaning tires
Re: F-150
Re: EGR tube replacement on '88 302 Bronco
Re: Leaning tires
Re: 85 4 spd OD
Re: Coil question
Re: Instrument clusters Part II
steering columns
locker vs. powertrax help
Re: Truck Value
Re: Rear Seats
Two nippled radiator fill neck

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Tie down points
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:10:23 -0500

My daughter's bed liner came with some nice internal tiedowns on the sides.
They actually hid the retaining screws for the liner by incorporating the
tie downs with this. Still not as handy as having them on the bed rails or
outside the box but we've used them many times and they do seem to work
well.

My dream is to weld hooks every foot along the outside of the
bed........course that ruins the paint and adds drag and looks
funky.........................but certainly does have tons of "function" :-)
In floor folding eyes are nice too but I use those less often than tying
tarps over loads....:-) Floor ties are nice for hauling bikes etc..

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>holes are covered. The question is...what do you guys do to
>overcome this?
>Attach somes crew in lugs? I'd rather not drill holes, but if

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From: Greg Carter entrust.com>
Subject: Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:53:58 -0500

Hi,
Have you driven a car with a limited slip (or a posi) in the rear in the
snow?
If yes than it will handle just like that.

It only gets tricky in the front, and then you can modify a Detroit at
install time to "behave" better in the snow. Follow the link below for a
description of the modification.

I just drove in to work today in the snow, with Detroit's front and rear...
Bye.
Greg Carter
Entrust Technologies - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.entrust.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/buildup/dana60.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil & Debi [mailto:imstobustargate.net]
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 1:11 AM
To: 80-96-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help


> I've got a Detroit Locker and 4.56s in my 8.8" I can say that the road
> manners are different, but easily managed. I have not had problem one out
> of it.
>
I am considering putting the detroit locker in my 8.8 but was concerned how
it would handle on snow and icy roads. Have you driven it in snow? how was
it cornering on icy roads?

Phil Beattie
66 F100
70 F100
91 F150 4x4
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From: Greg Carter entrust.com>
Subject: Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:57:28 -0500

Hi,
Lockrights are known to fail often when put in the rear. They are not
strong enough to take the every day use.

Go for a Detroit locker, it will last the lifetime of the truck. Forget
about the gearless locker, its a marketing gimmick. They had trouble with
the first run, cases exploding. Go with the true Detroit and you wont be
sorry.

Bye.
Greg Carter
Entrust Technologies - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.entrust.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/buildup/dana60.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Wojtek Wysocki [mailto:cyborgserv.studiokwadrat.com.pl]
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 3:13 AM
To: 80-96-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help


> > Now i thing about lock right power trax. Because
> > when i instal lock i must put out spiders gears, it
> >is posible that after time and miles as power trax
> >get us up i lost posibility to drive .
>
> Need a translator here, no clue what you're asking!
OK i try. :-> sorry for my english.
how long will it work???


Wojciech Wysocki
cyborgstudiokwadrat.com.pl

BTW: Wht do You thing about detroit gearless lock???

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:38:53 -0500

I had a Traction loc in my van which I really, really liked but made the
mistake of using that slippery additive which basically took the locker off
line....:-( It was unreal on ice compared to non-lockers for pulling folks
out of ditches :-) One advantage I see is that both axles are sharing the
loads so it is less likely you will break one under stress except in the
unlikely situation where one wheel has perfect traction and the other is off
the ground in which case it is really taking a beating with a true locker
were a LS can be controlled to some extent with the brake pedal, softening
the shock on the tractive axle......just something to think about when
considering this subject :-) Most of us probably won't ever get into that
sitiuation so it may not even be an issue for street driven vehicles, not
sure.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>Have you driven a car with a limited slip (or a posi) in the
>rear in the
>snow?
>If yes than it will handle just like that.

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From: "Brad Watts" nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: TRYING TO GET OFF THE EMAIL LIST
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:43:27 -0400

No offence guys but this thing is sending me too many emails. I'm on the
80-90 list and the Off Road one. I have been trying to get unlisted on the
80-90 list but it won't go through. Any ideas?!?!


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From: kb9odg.markjuno.com
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:57:17 -0600
Subject: Re: Coil question

Jim,

I just replaced my coil on my '87 with a 300. My problem was that it was
cutting out on me every once in a while. I bought an MSD Blaster coil
and am more than happy with the results. I drove my truck for an hour
trying to get it to cut out but it did nothing but run strong the entire
time. I've also got a stock coil if your interested. I bought it before
I found the Blaster.

- Mark
Peoria, IL


>
> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:36:30 -0600
> From: Jim Cannon gtalumni.org>
> Subject: Coil question
>
> Gang-
> Tell me, has anyone ever had a coil go bad on them and have it not
> totally
> die, just run really poorly when hot? I am having this problem right
> now.
> Engine runs great when started first thing in the morning. By the
> time I
> get 2 miles from the house, it runs horribly. It feels like
> ignition; lots
> of new parts on the ignition system, except the coil right now, and
> no
> improvement.
>
> I have always assumed that when a coil died, it died... and the
> truck would
> not run. That's why I'm asking if anyone has had one kind of die a
> slow,
> painful death instead, with lots of misfiring.
>
> TIA.
>
> Jim Cannon
> Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech
> '29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!"
> '80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
>
> ------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:09:51 -0500
Subject: Re: (No subject)Message-ID: <20000214.121235.-581321.0.mo
From: John A Musolino juno.com>

rich may yahoo.com> asked:

>Also, do all newer F-series (92-96)extended cabs have fold down rear
seats?

I have a '96 F-150, and yes, the rear seats fold down - the seat bottom
folds over forward, and the back pivots down, making a flat, hard surface
behind the front seats.

Moose
John Musolino

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From: "Mahaffey, Chris M" ch.etn.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Filter
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:06:00 -0500

It was a Craftsman which may not be the best quality, but it was easy to
replace.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 5:57 PM
To: 80-96-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Fuel Filter


Broke the wrench! I hope it was it one of those 7-11 wrenches :-)

"Mahaffey, Chris M" wrote:

> Before I had the tool I tried to pry the hose off the filter by sliding an
> open end wrench over the pipe on the filter and prying againts the end of
> the fuel line. I broke the wrench and the fuel line never came off.
>

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From: "Mahaffey, Chris M" ch.etn.com>
Subject: Leaning tires
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:55:09 -0500

I don't drive my truck much in the winter and was going to use it yesterday
to pick up some supplies for the house. It's been about 2 months since I've
driven it on the road although I've moved it in and out of the garage a
couple times to work on my other vehicles. Anyway, once I got on the road
it was pulling really strongly to the right, and occasionally it felt like
something would catch in the front end and pull a bit to the left. I didn't
drive it very far till I stopped and looked at the front tires. They are
both leaning excessively out at the top (driver's side more than passengers
side). My first thought was bad ball joints. But I'm puzzled by why they
would fail when the truck hasn't been driven in the last 2 months. The last
time I had it out before winter was for the state inspection and they
supposedly checked the ball joints then. I'm going to be crawling under it
trying to find what's wrong sometime soon. Do any of you have
ideas/suggestions for what I should look for?

It's a '92 2WD Flareside with the 4.9L and 4 spd manual

Thanks
Chris

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Leaning tires
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:23:33 -0500

Frozen shocks? The 92 has the typical I beam suspension with King pins.
Only thing that could make this happen is for the suspension to be at full
droop or both king pins are sheared off at the top in which case it should
be wobbling like mad.....or the wheels should actually fall off.....

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>drive it very far till I stopped and looked at the front
>tires. They are
>both leaning excessively out at the top (driver's side more
>than passengers

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From: "Watkins, Robert (GEP)" gepex.ge.com>
Subject: Re: Stalling when engine is hot
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:29:39 -0500

> I don't think the first post went through...I
> apologize if this is redundant
> Thanks for the help identifying my tranny, it is a
> NP (not a T18)
> I am still struggling with the stalling problem I
> mentioned in an earlier post (below). One note to add is that when the
> engine is warm the engine will often just bounce around between 500 and
> 1000 rpm when I disengage the clutch, but when it is hot (pulling my boat
> or after a long highway run) it will almost always stall.
>
> Stalling: My truck has a nasty habit of stalling
> just after I depress the clutch and begin to brake. It will not stall when
> the engine is cold and it gets worse if I am going downhill. Sometimes on
> flat ground it will recover before stalling and just bounce between 0-1600
> rpm a few times.
> Constant high idle: The truck almost always idles
> around 1050 rpm. I have done the usual...check all vacuum lines, clean the
> air bypass valve (IAC), etc. The one thing I haven't done is check the EGR
> valve because I haven't been able to get the return tub off of the valve
> (rust). Any tricks to share? Along with the maintenance items above I have
> done the following (within the last 1.5 yr.): new fuel filter, pcv valve,
> O2 sensor, ignition module, alternator. I have also repaired a ton of
> wiring problems (oxidized wires, loose connectors, etc) and have improved
> some of the ground wire connections
>
> Again thanks for any help!
> Bob Watkins
> 1987 F150
>

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From: Hal Hammond lgc.com>
Subject: EGR tube replacement on '88 302 Bronco
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:44:27 -0600

The EGR tube on my '88 302 Bronco comes out the bottom of the EGR valve,
takes a 90 degree turn and disappears under the upper intake manifold. I
have to replace it since it snapped off when I changed the EGR valve and now
is leaking exhaust into the engine compartment.

Does anyone have any tips on this repair? It looks like I have to pull the
upper intake to get at it. Is there a repair part available that routes it
differently?

Thanks.

Hal Hammond
hhammondlgc.com

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:08:03 -0500
From: Martin Horne optonline.net>
Subject: Re: EGR tube replacement on '88 302 Bronco

At 02:44 PM 2/14/00 -0600, you wrote:
>The EGR tube on my '88 302 Bronco comes out the bottom of the EGR valve,
>takes a 90 degree turn and disappears under the upper intake manifold. I
>have to replace it since it snapped off when I changed the EGR valve and now
>is leaking exhaust into the engine compartment.
>
>Does anyone have any tips on this repair? It looks like I have to pull the
>upper intake to get at it. Is there a repair part available that routes it
>differently?
>
>Thanks.
>


Sorry, but you are right. The tube screws into the motor under the intake
manifold. However, if you can find the correct wrench to get at the center
bolt that is also under the manifold it isn't that difficult. I seem to
recall that it's a Torx. Perhaps someone out there knows which one? I
haven't seen it routed differently - but that doesn't mean it hasn't been
done. Either way, I think you're in for removing the manifold.
Martin Horne
'86 Bronco
Long Island, NY

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From: SlamedF150aol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:16:23 EST
Subject: Re: Leaning tires

IT WONT BE THE KING PINS. THEY ONLY CONNECT THE RADIUS ARM TO THE I-BEAM. THE
ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IS THE UPPER OR LOWER BALL JOINTS, OR THE CAMBER
BUSHING AND FALLEN OUT.

CHRIS
87 LOWRIDER

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From: "Jeff Fairbairn" cyberus.ca>
Subject: Re: Leaning tires
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:20:28 -0500

How do the front springs look?

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Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Leaning tires

IT WONT BE THE KING PINS. THEY ONLY CONNECT THE RADIUS ARM TO THE I-BEAM.
THE
ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IS THE UPPER OR LOWER BALL JOINTS, OR THE CAMBER
BUSHING AND FALLEN OUT.

CHRIS
87 LOWRIDER
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:35:28 -0800 (PST)
From: dennis ward yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help

I have had a lockright in my 95 f150 4x4 for over a
year now and I love it. Compared to the detroit
locker in my 79 mud bogger the street manners are much
better on the lockright. I hear no clicking, and the
results are predictable on snow and ice (i go to
school in the u.p. of michigan -- 180" snow yearly).
It has survived 15,000 miles and light mud abuse. my
light i mean up to 7" deep. compared to the detroit
gearless the lockright is about the same except for
more precision cut teeth, lower price and longer
warranty. If I was to by another traction added I
would buy a lockright.

--Dennis Ward

> Hi,
> Lockrights are known to fail often when put in the
> rear. They are not
> strong enough to take the every day use.
>
> Go for a Detroit locker, it will last the lifetime
> of the truck. Forget
> about the gearless locker, its a marketing gimmick.
> They had trouble with the first run, cases
exploding. Go with the true Detroit and you wont be
sorry.

> > > Now i thing about lock right power trax. Because
> > > when i instal lock i must put out spiders gears,
> it is posible that after time and miles as power
> trax get us up i lost posibility to drive .
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From: "Watkins, Robert (GEP)" gepex.ge.com>
Subject: Re: EGR tube replacement on '88 302 Bronco
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:45:29 -0500


Sorry, but you are right. The tube screws into the motor under the intake
manifold. However, if you can find the correct wrench to get at the center
bolt that is also under the manifold it isn't that difficult. I seem to
recall that it's a Torx. Perhaps someone out there knows which one? I
haven't seen it routed differently - but that doesn't mean it hasn't been
done. Either way, I think you're in for removing the manifold.
Martin Horne
'86 Bronco
Long Island, NY

On the subject of EGR valves (and breaking the tube) does anyone have any
tips
on how to remove the tube from valve without breaking it? I have a 87 F150
with the
4.9L. I wanted to remove mine to test it (My truck always idles high and I
can't find any
vacuum leaks, so...)

Bob Watkins
1987 F150 4x4 I6
7.5' Western Plow

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From: 2insaneexcite.com
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:44:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Catalytic Perverter

--------------------------------------
On my 92, they took the front one off, made a two-into-one pipe, and a hi
flow in place of my rear cat.
-------------------------------------

How much did the 2 into 1 pipe cost?i've been meaning to take out my cats
and replace with just pipes but people have told me going to a muffler man
to make a 2 into 1 would be expensive so i've been trying (not too much) to
figure out how to do something myself.
Thanks for the figures.

DK





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From: BRIGANDBARaol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:48:53 EST
Subject: Re: ARB Air Lockers

In the discussion of E-Z Lockers, etc. I noted that there was little or now
discussion of the ARB's. I've been through the research loop on lockers and
think that these are the most usable solution when the truck is driven
extensively on the hard surfaced roads as well as off-road.

The problem is finding an installer. Does anyone on the list have a
recommendation for a dealer/installer in the South Central KY/North Middle TN
area/

TIA,

Steve

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:18:09 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki little-mountain.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re - Front LSDs

>>I was unaware that Ford put Limited Slip diffs in the front from the
>>factory. I knew they used to in the 70's but the '80's & '90's? Auburn
>>gear makes a great replacement limited slip. I had one in my '89 GT
>
>Mine sure feels like it has one; when you're "out" of 4wd, but haven't
>backed it up yet [auto-lock hubs], the steering is pretty funky until you do
>get the hubs disengaged. Then again, praps I just don't know what I'm
>talking about, but it certainly does seem like the diff is interfering.
>

My 88 with limited slip up front sure is strange to drive when one side is
on a good traction surface and the other on ice or slush. It pulls to one
side really bad - more or less like pulling the steering lever on a dozer.
On pure ice or snow it drives beautifully.


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From: bobthornwood.com
Subject: F-150
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:22:09 -0700

What are the tallest tires & wheels that I can put on my 1996 standard cab
F-150 pickup?

Bob





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From: SOBFROGGwebtv.net (Scott Mummery)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:43:29 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: 80-96-list Digest V2000 #6

RE Coil:
Yes a coil can go intermiently. I work in a small engine shop ad we see
this on ocasion. As for replacing I swaped my stock one out for Super
coil. Had it laying around the garage. I did get some mpg improvement.
The only proble is that the tach will flutter under a light load. Stomp
your foot to the floor and the tach is smooth.
One thing to look into is the Jacobs system, or an MSD system.
Scott
95 F150 Flareside SC 4X


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From: ACMERCGaol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:43:32 EST
Subject: Re: Leaning tires

In a message dated 02/14/2000 4:23:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jfairbairncyberus.ca writes:

<< How do the front springs look? >>
this is your problem....

Joe
Lost in Jersey

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From: SOBFROGGwebtv.net (Scott Mummery)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:51:23 -0600 (CST)
Subject: RE New Truck

Sounds Like a winner, Some general thoughts.
1) In 95 That truck was dealer listed at about $23,000.
2) I did not know that 4-anti lock brakes were an option. When I ordered
mine it was not.
Scott


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From: SOBFROGGwebtv.net (Scott Mummery)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:09:05 -0600 (CST)
Subject: RE Rear End

I have swapped the junk OEM Ford Traction Lock for an Lock Right.
Installation was a snap, and it preforms wonderfully. In turns the lock
right will ratchet allowing the inside wheel to turn faster. As for
durability? Well The OEM started to howl at about 45,000 miles. The
truck now has 120,000 miles and it sees regular heavy loads. ie: pulling
farm implements through the mud, and launching my 19' fishing boat on
unimproved ramps in Canada and Wisco. I love it. And yes I have a
traction lock in the front end and I am going to replace it with an ARB
Air Locker.
I got the idea for both of these mods from the rock crawling Jeep crowd.
I think they have an idea of what hard use is.
Scott
95 F150 Flareside SC 4X


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From: Bakendaol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:19:38 EST
Subject: Re: Leaning tires

In a message dated 02/14/2000 11:56:28 AM Mountain Standard Time,
MahafCMch.etn.com writes:

> But I'm puzzled by why they
> would fail when the truck hasn't been driven in the last 2 months.
Have you got any teenage sons that might have taken a joy ride?
I do and when I have mysteries like this the guilty will usually come forward
after awhile.
D Baken

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From: Lingus0169aol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:23:22 EST
Subject: Re: F-150

i would guess 33x12.5 on a 15"rim...im am positive you will be able to put
31x10.5r15

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:27:23 -0500
From: Martin Horne optonline.net>
Subject: Re: EGR tube replacement on '88 302 Bronco


>On the subject of EGR valves (and breaking the tube) does anyone have any
>tips
>on how to remove the tube from valve without breaking it? I have a 87 F150
>with the
>4.9L. I wanted to remove mine to test it (My truck always idles high and I
>can't find any
>vacuum leaks, so...)
>
>Bob Watkins
>1987 F150 4x4 I6
>7.5' Western Plow


I don't know if I just lucked out, but I doused it with "Super Penetrant"
spray (the orange stuff that will squirt clean across the shop if you
miss!) every day for two or three days and then attacked it with a large
wrench.
After one of those gut stopping "Oh no, I've done it now" moments, it
loosened and undid.
You could try testing it with a vacuum pump without disconnecting it. Start
the truck with the pump connected to the EGR and let it idle. Pull a vacuum
with the pump and see if the idle changes. It will at least give you a clue
if it is leaking badly, a bit or not at all. Not terribly scientific I
know, but I do find it a handy way to tell if I'm approxiamtely on the
right track.



Martin Horne
'86 Bronco
Long Island, NY

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From: "Watkins, Robert (GEP)" gepex.ge.com>
Subject: Re: Leaning tires
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:45:51 -0500

I was once one of those mischievous kids, its worth a shot

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From: Bakendaol.com [mailto:Bakendaol.com]
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 9:20 PM
To: 80-96-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Leaning tires


In a message dated 02/14/2000 11:56:28 AM Mountain Standard Time,
MahafCMch.etn.com writes:

> But I'm puzzled by why they
> would fail when the truck hasn't been driven in the last 2 months.
Have you got any teenage sons that might have taken a joy ride?
I do and when I have mysteries like this the guilty will usually come
forward
after awhile.
D Baken

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:11:30 -0800
Subject: Re: 85 4 spd OD
From: Joan and Walt Posluszny home.com>

David, I've got an 85 150 4x4 with the 351W2bbl and the 4 spd OD manual
tranny. 1st gear is 3.01, can't remember 2nd gear ratio, 3rd is 1.00 and
4th is 0.78 to 1. My RAR is 3.50. Walt

>
>
> From: DTrowbridgewebtv.net (David Trowbridge)
> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:45:54 -0600 (CST)
> Subject: Gear ratios
>
> does anyone know what the gear ratios arefor an 85 4 speed overdrive
> manual tranny? i am loking at changing out the rear differential with a
> friend, but need to know his gear ratios first so i can see if it would
> benefit him at all. thanx.....
>
> David
> 85 F-150 300 I6


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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:12:53 -0600
From: Jim Cannon gtalumni.org>
Subject: Re: Coil question

This is a good point. I now suspect the oil filter and vapor lock. (long
story). I have not had time to test this idea. Thanks for they reminder to
check the obvious.

Jim

At 08:42 14/02/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Are you sure it is the coil? These symptoms can be caused by any number of
>other problems as well. This is a common failure mode of modern modules but
>coils don't usually go bad like they used to back in the old days. Metal
>moves as it heats up and gaskets and valves that seal when cold can open up
>when hot causing all manner of greif. Does it also run poorly when wet?

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!"
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8

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From: FULSZBRONCaol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:21:30 EST
Subject: Re: Instrument clusters Part II


<<>>

Hi Les,
Hadn't heard from you in a while, and was afraid you'd joined
the ''Dark Side" (GM or D*dge) ;-)
I went looking for aftermarket gauges under Datcon, Stewart Warner,
and VDO I came up with only MPH stuff, but ISSPRO
(http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.isspro.com/aftermarket.html) looked promising for mechanical
and programmable electric speedo's in KPH. I promise, if you order
a catalogue you'll drive yourself nuts drooling over all the nifty gauges
available.... (and it got me thinking again about installing a pyrometer.
Anyone with first hand experience using a pyro on a gas engine?)

<<< The ford dealer will charge you $1300 for a 9" axle, $200 for the
w/bearing and collar, OEM suppliers ? $400, complete. >>>

I didn't realize that F-series were so rare and expensive Down-Under.
I guess you have to be either a true Ford enthusiast or ''some kind of nut''
to
own and work on Ford F-series trucks in OZ?
I replaced the rear wheel bearings and seals on my 9" last summer
and it only cost $70.00US per side. And since I have access to a 50 ton
press,
the labor wasn't a factor.
Ford really could expand its sales overseas if they went back to
making both LHD & RHD configurations like they supposedly used to do...
and make it easier for gents like you to ''keep 'em running''

There really is nothing like the Ford ''ride''. .

Alex

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Subject: steering columns
From: craig n eggerman juno.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:27:17 EST

There are some good cross section drawings in the Chilton manuals. I have
the 61-88 ford van book and the diagrams are found on pages 536-539. I
doubt that your 90 is much different. A good source if you do not want to
buy a Haines or Chilton is the public library.
Craig
Eggermanjuno.com
Casper,Wyoming
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Subject: locker vs. powertrax help
From: craig n eggerman juno.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:27:17 EST

Boy I could go on about this one for a while. I had a two year running
battle with these Power Trax people and finally won.
The Power Trax lock rite and Detroit EZlock are basically the same units.
Thus the law suite by Detroit. They are designed to go into the existing
axle carrier. They are cheaper $250 range vs a full locking unit that
comes with a carrier. The concept is good so long as the existing carrier
is still in spec. This is where my problem was. Neither company warns you
about the potential problems you will have if the carrier is worn out.
Excessive ratcheting, broken pins, poor street performance and constant
repairs were the symptoms. A sharp design engineer from the air locker
company who happened to be in a shop in Moab Utah examined the unit and
properly diagnosed the problem. When a new carrier was installed with a
new lock rite, no more problems. There was too much play in the carrier
that had seen 150,000 miles of hard use. The old spider gears worked fine
in it, but when a close tolerance unit like the Lock rite was installed
lots of problems. The Dogs were all chewed up.

If your a serious off roader get a Detroit Locker for the rear. If your
rig is new, you can get away with a Power Trax lock rite or Detroit
Ezlocker. I suspect that Detroit would stand behind their product a lot
better than Power Trax. Of course this is only my story others may have
had similar problems with Detroit.

Air lockers are a pain. I have spent many an afternoon under a rig fixing
the air lines pulled loose or replacing a burned up compressor or looking
for a bad wire. I hate electric stuff on trail rigs. For the life of me I
can not see why they did not design around a vacuum system or mechanical
system that would not have required the extra junk.

The limited slips (Auburn Gear, Track Lock ect) are great for street
rigs.
Expect to replace the clutch packs about every 40,000 miles.

Dana is now out with a new locker called a Verilock that sounds
intriguing. This is now what is being installed in the 1999 and newer
Grand Cherokees with the old fashion newly designed gas guzzling
Quadratrack system of old.

Craig
Eggermanjuno.com
Casper,Wyoming
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From: "Dave Harmier" gte.net>
Subject: Re: Truck Value
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:02:33 -0600

From: WoodStck45aol.com
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:50:39 EST
Subject: Truck Value?

Guys,

I am looking at buying a new truck and was wondering what you guys think it

is worth. It is a: 95 F-250 H.D., ex-cab, long bed, 60,000, 4X4,
lockouts,
460, auto, XLT and Off Road package, pwr steering,pwr windows, pwr locks,
cruise, tilt, a/c, am/fm cassette, bedliner, 4 wheel ABS, dual tanks, tow
package, two-tone paint, and alloy wheels. Kelly blue book says its worth
$17,500. Does this sound correct? The dealer wants $21,500 for it. That
sound outrageous to me. Also, i was checking the prices on some other
trucks, and when i typed in the same things and listed above only put it as
a
F-350, it says 4 wheel drive isn't an option. Is this true?


My several cents say, if it were a Power Stroke, and REALLY clean, that
would be an ok price.
It sounds kinda high (okay REAL high) for a 460.
I believe 4x4 350's do exist......

Dave H.
Houston

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From: "Dave Harmier" gte.net>
Subject: Re: Rear Seats
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:05:20 -0600

Also, do all newer F-series (92-96)extended cabs have fold down rear
seats?

thanks in advance

rich


My 92 certainly does, though I never see it as a seat, but folded as a
platform to hold toolbox, and parts boxes.

Dave H.
Houston


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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:18:22 -0800
From: Chuck Sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Two nippled radiator fill neck

The Shop Manual doesn't say anything about it....of course I have
yet to get the Emissions Manual. The fill neck on the radiator of
my 86 F150 I-6 has two nipples on it. One of course is for the
overflow hose. The lower nipple has a short piece of hose attached
to it but it has been plugged. Is this supposed to be some kind of
heat sensing apparatus that is supposed to attach to the carb of
something? This smog crap really has me stumped and the fact
that half of what I need does not seem to be there is not helping
the situation at all.
Thanks
Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
1964 Falcon Sprint
1986 F150 six banger (Hers)


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