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80-96-list Digest Sat, 22 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 068

In This Issue:
Re: NEED HELP!!!!! MOTOR STOPS RANDOMLY
Re: NEED HELP!!!!! MOTOR STOPS RANDOMLY
national trails!!!!!! poll
Aftermarket A/C
Re: NEED HELP!!!!! MOTOR STOPS RANDOMLY
Re: Aftermarket A/C
Re: Question about rain
Fw: Re: Question about rain
Annual Pigeon Forge Supernationals
Brake sticking
Re: Gear ratio question

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From: "Serian" flashmail.com>
Subject: Re: NEED HELP!!!!! MOTOR STOPS RANDOMLY
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:11:43 -0400

> MY TRUCK SHUTS OFF BY IT SELF. I WOULD BE
> DRIVIN AND IT WOULD JUST SHUT OFF,,,,
> SOMETIMES IT TURNS BACK ON...BUT MOST OF
> THE TIME IT STAYS OFF. THEN I HAVE TO CRANK
> ON IT. IT DOESNT SPUDDER , AND WHEN IT RUNS,
> IT RUNS GREAT. ITS

This sounds like the classic symptoms of a bad ignition module.

There is no sure way to test these things except by replacing
them, but they are relatively cheap (I usually nab a couple
Duraspark ones at the salvage yard dirt cheap when I go.)

Replacement is pretty easy; Duraspark ignition modules are
found on the inside fender well; TFI modules are mounted
on the side of the distributor.



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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:31:15 EDT
Subject: Re: NEED HELP!!!!! MOTOR STOPS RANDOMLY

In a message dated 4/22/00 1:13:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
serian flashmail.com writes:

<< TFI modules are mounted
on the side of the distributor.
>>
I would have to differ with you here. In the 92-96 F150s the TFI module is
mounted to the inside fenderwall on the drivers side of the truck, just below
the cruise module, EECIV diagnostic connectors and the spout plug. It is a
PITA to get to and you have to have a 5.5 MM socket to get the module out of
its finned cooling mount.
Later,
Wayne Foy
94 Flareside SC
1999 Fun Ford Weekend
Racing series
#2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA

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From: DJ250raol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 18:27:14 EDT
Subject: national trails!!!!!! poll

USA WEEKEND
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.usaweekend.com/quick/index.htmlgo and take the poll

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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:48:24 -0700
From: Marv & Marge Miller lafn.org>
Subject: Aftermarket A/C

My '89 F-250 w/ 302 has dealer add-on ARA air conditioning. It currently is inop.
P/O tells me it died slowly, then quit completely when the low cut-off activated.

The low-side hose into the compressor is simply a push-on with a standard stainless
hose clamp, ala heater hose. This seems unusual, given the pressures at which A/C
operates. Anybody else got this setup? Has yours got a hose clamp, too? This may
be an easy fix if all I need is a new hose.

-Marv-

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From: sliknessmindspring.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:27:28 -0400
Subject: Re: NEED HELP!!!!! MOTOR STOPS RANDOMLY

I agree that it is probably in the ignition and I assume that you have the 302 full injected. There are several tests you can run and several items that can cause the ignition to fail as you've described. To test if you're getting spark from the coil, pull the coil wire from the distributor and install a small bolt or something similar into the boot to extend the wire (homemade spark tester), place about 1/2" from a ground, crank the engine and check for a good strong spark. I normally lay mine along the top of the fender so I can easily see the spark while cranking the engine. If there is spark then check the plugs and plug wires. If there is no spark, check the coil wire resistance, it should be no more than 5,000 ohms per foot; inspect the ignition col for damage or carbon tracking. Remove the distributor cap and verify that the distributor shaft turns when the engine is cranked.

OK, the next lines are directly from my Chilton's manual:

"Ignition Coil Primary Circuit Switching

1. Insert a small straight pin in the wire which runs from the coil negative (-) terminal to the TFI module, about 1" from the module.

**WARNING
The pin must not touch ground!

2. Connect a 12 VDSC test lamp between the straight pin and an engine ground.
3. Crank the engine, noting the operation of the test lamp. If the test lamp flashes, proceed to the next test. If the test lamp lights but does not flash, proceed to the Wiring Harness test. If the test lamp does not light at all, proceed to the Primary Circuit Continuity test..."

Anyway there's more if you need it. There is a check also for the stator assembly, for instance you can check the resistance across the stator assembly; it should read between 800-975 ohms. If it doesn't, then you need a new stator..

There's a couple of pages of tests.

If you're carberated, let me know. There's a bunch of different tests and parameters for the carberated.

Slik





80-96-listford-trucks.com wrote:
> MY TRUCK SHUTS OFF BY IT SELF. I WOULD BE DRIVIN AND IT WOULD JUST SHUT OFF,,,,SOMETIMES IT TURNS BACK ON...BUT MOST OF THE TIME IT STAYS OFF. THEN I
HAVE TO CRANK ON IT. IT DOESNT SPUDDER , AND WHEN IT RUNS, IT RUNS GREAT. ITS
AN 87 F-150 302 C-6



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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:49:41 -0500
From: a&b uab.campuscwix.net>
Subject: Re: Aftermarket A/C

May not be just that hose, but a hose clamp is ok. A/C hose clamps had a tang on 'em to
space how far back from the end to clamp it, but it was still a "heater hose clamp"
.Sometimes you can tell where a leak is 'cause the oil collects dirt/dust. If the hose
is wet or oily at the connection or in the middle it could be leaking there. May be
worth it to pay for a leak test given the cost of r-12.
Bill G
Marv & Marge Miller wrote:

> My '89 F-250 w/ 302 has dealer add-on ARA air conditioning. It currently is inop.
> P/O tells me it died slowly, then quit completely when the low cut-off activated.
>
> The low-side hose into the compressor is simply a push-on with a standard stainless
> hose clamp, ala heater hose. This seems unusual, given the pressures at which A/C
> operates. Anybody else got this setup? Has yours got a hose clamp, too? This may
> be an easy fix if all I need is a new hose.
>
> -Marv-
> ==========================================================
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> the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the
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From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr." exit109.com>
Subject: Re: Question about rain
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:21:14 -0400

Jarod,

I like to start with the simple and cheap stuff. How's the cap and
rotor look? Anything cracked that would let moisture in?

-Mike
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From: JWater3961aol.com
Seems like everytime it rains or is very damp...
Jarod Waterman
1995 Ford F150



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From: "Fred & Eleanor Monteabaro" earthlink.net>
Subject: Fw: Re: Question about rain
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:24:58 -0500

Jarod:

Check you distributor cap to see if the small "breather hole" is not stopped
up with dirt or grease. This hole is slightly less than one-sixteen in
diameter.
This purpose is to allow the air inside and outside of the distributer to be
near the same temperature. When it gets plugged, condensation will occur
inside of your distributer, especially on damp days.

Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr." exit109.com>
To: <80-96-listford-trucks.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 9:21 PM
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Question about rain


> Jarod,
>
> I like to start with the simple and cheap stuff. How's the cap and
> rotor look? Anything cracked that would let moisture in?
>
> -Mike
> -----------
> From: JWater3961aol.com
> Seems like everytime it rains or is very damp...
> Jarod Waterman
> 1995 Ford F150
>
>
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:23:22 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Annual Pigeon Forge Supernationals

Ford Truck Enthusiasts makes an annual trek to the
F100 Supernationals in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. This
is the largest 48-79 Ford truck show in the world.
Each year, list members and web site visitors meet
there. This year, the non-profit Association of
Ford Truck Enthusiasts will be meeting there. AFTE
has several things planned, such as a breakfast and
picnic. One of the members, Gary, asked me about a
month ago to announce the event to the lists but it
got misplaced in my to-do list.

If you're interested in attending this event, there
is a forum on the web site site message boards (events
forum).



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From: WoodStck45aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:42:34 EDT
Subject: Brake sticking

I have a 91 F-250 4X4 with rear anti-lock only. The problem is that the left
front brake sticks on. The brakes were new all the way around one year ago.
Just before it started sticking i rotated my tires and blew all the brake
dust out with an air hose and wiped everything down with brake cleaner.
(except anything thats rubber) The brakes look like brand new. What was
cause it to stick? Bad brakes on one side? Or maybe bad caliper?

Thanks
Paul

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From: rokkinhorsewebtv.net
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:17:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Gear ratio question

< vehicle?>> The PCM is located in the firewall,drivers' side (look
for a long plug with about a zillion wires coming out of it) and about
1/2 way down. To remove it, take the front drivers fenderwell line
loose,pry it back and pull the PCM out from underhood. This is way
easier than trying to get it out past the e-brake assy in the cab. <> On
tjhe ratio question, the 3.73s sound pretty good. I limited myself to
31x10.50s for this exact reason. I didn't want to have to worrry about
the 3.55s bein too high a ratio. I notice the difference on the hills
now,but it hasn't been that great a difference,IMO.Sure, it downshifts
more,but I picked up some mileage,too.

Randy Goolsby- 94 Bronco EB


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