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80-96-list Digest Mon, 10 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 058

In This Issue:
Re: pre-luber
Re: 347 stroker
Re: pre-luber
Re: 347 stroker
Michelin tires?
Re: Michelin tires?
Re: EEC Handbook
Problem solved! Thanks for your help!!!
Lower Rad Hose Problem & HP Rating
1995 shop manuals - full set for sale
1989 shop manuals - full set for sale
Re: elec valve for pre-luber (can you say "Accusump"??)
FAST IDLE CHOKE ADJUSTMENT
Re: Brakes
Re: 1995 shop manuals - full set for sale
Re: pre-luber
Re: Lower Rad Hose Problem & HP Rating

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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:24:33 -0500
From: Mike Persell home.com>
Subject: Re: pre-luber

Try an outfit called Baker Precision Bearings in Southern Cal. If Paul
doesn't have it he can usually find it. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bakerprecision.com

Mike
85 F150 Shorty Stepside


Del Sharp wrote:
>
> Greetings:
>
> I am in the process of installing a pre-luber. I bought a 1 1/2 quart wet
> sump cannister from Summit Racing made by Moroso. I am looking for some kind
> of valve that I can open and close electrically by a manual switch. Then,
> before I shut off the motor, I will close the valve, locking the oil
> pressure in the wet sump can which I can release back into the system prior
> to restarting the engine. The valve may be harder to come by than I thought,
> unless some of you can point me to one. Thanks.
>

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From: kb9odg.mark juno.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:49:15 -0500
Subject: Re: 347 stroker

John,

First thing I'd do is convert to mass air. This will accept any changes
you can make. When you stroke your motor, it will need more fuel to run,
well, the speed density system you have on your truck is only programmed
for the 302 cubic inches, not the 347 inches it will be once your
through. If you want more detail I'll be glad to go into it, but I don't
want to take up too much time. As for a cam, I'd try the stock Mustang
cam from '92 IF it has the same firing order. I'm not sure on that. I
have heard very good things on this cam.

Good luck,

- Mark Reimers KB9ODG
'66 Bronco 170 I-6, 3-speed, 3.5" suspension lift, 3" body lift, 35"
tires ...
'87 F-150 XLT 4x2 300 I-6, 4-speed, staduim truck sounding, boring no
more


> From: johnhfleming juno.com
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 06:32:24 -0700
> Subject: 347 stroker
>
> I'm going to put a stroker kit in my 5.0. It's in an '86 with speed
> density EFI. What kind of cam can I run without major EFI changes?
>
> John
>
________________________________________________________________





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From: kb9odg.mark juno.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:00:58 -0500
Subject: Re: pre-luber

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.parker.com/pneumatic

They have all kinds of valves and fittings and anything you could want.
I've got the catalog and love it.

- Mark Reimers KB9ODG
'66 Bronco 170 I-6, 3-speed, 3.5" suspension lift, 3" body lift, 35"
tires ...
'87 F-150 XLT 4x2 300 I-6, 4-speed, staduim truck sounding, boring no
more


> From: "Del Sharp" hotmail.com>
> Subject: pre-luber
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:22:50 PDT
>
>
> Greetings:
>
> I am in the process of installing a pre-luber. I bought a 1 1/2
> quart wet
> sump cannister from Summit Racing made by Moroso. I am looking for
> some kind
> of valve that I can open and close electrically by a manual switch.
> Then,
> before I shut off the motor, I will close the valve, locking the oil
>
> pressure in the wet sump can which I can release back into the
> system prior
> to restarting the engine. The valve may be harder to come by than I
> thought,
> unless some of you can point me to one. Thanks.
>
>
________________________________________________________________





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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:49:49 +1000
From: les williams cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: 347 stroker

Hi All,

Geez, maybe I'm a sandwich short of a lunch, but pray tell why would you want to
stroke a 302 cid to 347 cid ?
Under what circumstances would this be a Real Good Idea ? Especially with the
choice of engine capacities you have to choose from up there. I'm not being
critical either way, just curious .......

... But I'm having fun in an F100, 351 Cleveland on LPG & Water/Alcohol Injection
..

regards
Les
Lost in the Land of OZ





FLR150 aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 4/10/00 9:31:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> johnhfleming juno.com writes:
>
> << I'm going to put a stroker kit in my 5.0. It's in an '86 with speed
> density EFI. What kind of cam can I run without major EFI changes?
>
> John >>
> John,
> >>First of all do you drive this truck everyday? If you do, DO NOT GO ANY
> BIGGER THAN A 331 Stroker. Please heed my advice. I race my truck and hang
> with many other professional and amatuer racers.
> Hope I have helped,<<
> Later,
> Wayne Foy
> 94 Flareside SC
> 1999 Fun Ford Weekend
> Racing series
> #2 Top Truck


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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:59:36 -0400
From: Steve Means wave31i.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Michelin tires?

I have a '94 F150 4x4 that needs a set of tires. I have looked at a
couple of membership clubs to compare prices on a set of Michelins.
Can anyone tell me the difference between LTX A/T's and X Radial
LT's? I can get the X Radial LT's a good bit cheaper, but I
couldn't find any info on them off of Michelin's website, as they do
not appear on it. Any help in deciphering the difference would be
appreciated.

Steve Means
Naval Research Laboratory
4555 Overlook Avenue SW
Code 7121
Washington, DC 20375
Email: meanswave.nrl.navy.mil
Voice: 202-404-4653
Fax: 202-404-7813

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From: "Steve Schmeckpeper" home.com>
Subject: Re: Michelin tires?
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:22:07 -0500

Hi Steve,
Just guessin'...........mebbe the LTX A/T is 'mudder' style tread and X
Radial is 'highway' ???
Smeck

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From: "Steve Means" wave31i.nrl.navy.mil>
To: <80-96-listford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:59 AM
Subject: [80-96-list] Michelin tires?


> I have a '94 F150 4x4 that needs a set of tires. I have looked at a
> couple of membership clubs to compare prices on a set of Michelins.
> Can anyone tell me the difference between LTX A/T's and X Radial
> LT's? I can get the X Radial LT's a good bit cheaper, but I
> couldn't find any info on them off of Michelin's website, as they do
> not appear on it. Any help in deciphering the difference would be
> appreciated.
>
> Steve Means
> Naval Research Laboratory
> 4555 Overlook Avenue SW
> Code 7121
> Washington, DC 20375
> Email: meanswave.nrl.navy.mil
> Voice: 202-404-4653
> Fax: 202-404-7813
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From: "DannyF" ev1.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:07:43 -0500
Subject: Re: EEC Handbook

> First off I am in no way associated with this book other than a very happy
> customer.
>
> Sorry about the cross post but if anyone is having automotive computer problems
> and your trying to track down your EEC gremlins, there is one hell of a
> good book
> on this and it is downloadable. It covers 1984 - 1993.
> The author of the book is VERY helpful also. I got his book and being not
> much of
> an electrical kinda guy I had to take him up on his "if you have any
> questions, please
> contact me at" and gave his e-mail and phone number.
> As some of you know, I have been tracking down a "Vehicle fails to respond"
> message
> on the scanner when run on my 86 F-150. This gentlemen, Jeff Thorssell,
> spent a goodly
> part of Saturday and Sunday answering a whole bunch of e-mail
> questions. With his help
> I found the problem and can now pull codes on my truck. That is after I
> get a couple of
> replacment parts.
> So, If you are in need of a good "D.I.Y." book, get Jeffs "EEC HANDBOOK -
> VERSION 6"
> at: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dalidesign.com/hbook/

Glad to hear *someone* helped you Chuck. But what the heck was
the problem(s)?

Danny
fitz011ev1.net

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From: "Bowman, John" mtt.ca>
Subject: Problem solved! Thanks for your help!!!
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:20:42 -0300

Sorry I have not reported in sooner but thanks for the help on my carburator
icing problem. A while a go I asked for help to solve my carb icing problem
on my '83 F100 302 2V. One of the suggestions was to check the carb pre-heat
tube fron the exhaust manifold to the snorkle of the breather. I did the
check everything and all seemed OK but I still had a carb icing problem that
resulted in poor drivability until the engine warmed up. A few weeks ago I
was under the hood and rechecked the pre-heat tube and found that although
it appeared to be connected to the exhaust manifold, it wasn't! I replaced
it and fastened it with clamps and bingo! Problem solved! Big Red was
working like a new truck. Thanks!

*************************
John Bowman
'83 F100, "Big Red"
*************************

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From: "Bowman, John" mtt.ca>
Subject: Lower Rad Hose Problem & HP Rating
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:30:09 -0300

Question 1

I recently had the water pump on my '83 F100 302 replaced at the local Ford
dealer and wanted to also replace both rad hoses. The upper was no proplem
but Ford no longer listed a lowerr hose. The mechanic tried a number of
aftermarket hoses but they did not fit right. When installed, unlike the
original, they all layed on top of the ajustment nut on the steering box
which would have very quickly rubed a hole through it!

So can anyone suggest a solution other than a "universal" type hose?

Question 2

Any idea of what the horsepower and torque ratings would be for my '83 302
2V?

Thanks

*************************
John Bowman
'83 F100, "Big Red"
*************************

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From: "Tom Pohida" hotmail.com>
Subject: 1995 shop manuals - full set for sale
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:44:18 EDT

I would like to sell a complete set of Ford shop manuals for 1995 trucks.
The books were used very little (home use). They are in excellent shape,
with no torn or missing pages. I paid about $300 for them new. I will sell
them for $150 plus shipping. Please contact me if interested. Here is a list
of the manuals by name:

“Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis”
1995 Service Manual
On Board Diagnostics I
Car/Truck
~6.5” thick book

“Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis”
1995 Service Manual
On Board Diagnostics II
Car/Truck
~2” thick book

“1995 F-150, F-250, F-350, Bronco, F-Super Duty Powertrain, Drivetrain”
Service Manual
~2” thick book

“1995 F-150, F-250, F-350, Bronco, F-Super Duty Body, Chassis”
Service Manual
~2” thick book

“1995 Bronco”
“Electrical and Vacuum Troubleshooting Manual”
~1/2” thick book

“1995 F-Series Power Stroke 7.3 Liter Direct Injection Turbo Diesel
Supplement”
Service Manual
~3/8” thick book

“1995 Specification Book Light Duty Truck”
Aerostar, Bronco, Econoline, Explorer, F-150, F-250, F-350, F-Super Duty,
Ranger, Villager, Windstar
~3/4” thick book

______________________________________________________


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From: "Tom Pohida" hotmail.com>
Subject: 1989 shop manuals - full set for sale
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:46:35 EDT

I would like to sell a complete set of Ford shop manuals for 1989 trucks.
The books were used very little (home use). They are in very good shape,
with no missing pages. I paid about $220 for them new. I will sell them for
$110 plus shipping. Please contact me if interested. Here is a list of the
manuals by name:

“Engine/Emissions Diagnosis”
1988 Shop ManualVolume H
Car/Truck
~2” thick book

“1988 Truck Shop Manual”
Volume A
Light Truck Body/Chassis/Electrical
Bronco, Econoline, Explorer, F-150, F-250, F-350, F-Series Super Duty
~2” thick book

“1988 Truck Shop Manual”
Volume B
Light Truck Engine
Bronco, Econoline, Explorer, F-150, F-250, F-350, F-Series Super Duty
~3/4” thick book

“1988 Bronco/F-150/F-250/F-350/F-Super Duty”
“Electrical & Vacuum Troubleshooting Manual”
~1/4” thick book

“F-Series/Econoline/Bronco”
“Do-it-yourself Service Manual”
~1/2” thick book

“1988 Truck Wiring Diagrams”
Bronco, F-150, F-250, F-350, and F-Super Duty
~1/4 thick

“1988 Truck 1 Light Duty”
Specifications Book
Aerostar, Bronco II, Ranger
~3/8” thick book

“1988 Truck 2 Light Duty”
Specifications Book
Econoline, Club Wagon, Bronco, F-150, F-250, F-350
~1/2” thick book

______________________________________________________


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From: "Bret Luter" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: elec valve for pre-luber (can you say "Accusump"??)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:04:05 EDT

Del wrote:

From: "Del Sharp" hotmail.com>
Subject: pre-luber
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:22:50 PDT


Greetings:

I am in the process of installing a pre-luber. I bought a 1 1/2
quart wet
sump cannister from Summit Racing made by Moroso. I am looking
for some kind
of valve that I can open and close electrically by a manual
switch. Then,
before I shut off the motor, I will close the valve, locking the
oil
pressure in the wet sump can which I can release back into the
system prior
to restarting the engine. The valve may be harder to come by
than I thought,
unless some of you can point me to one. Thanks.
___________________________________________________


My reply:

Del and others,

what you are describing is readily available on a similar system called
"Accusump" (I think it's sold by Canton-Mecca products). As I recall, the
electric valve you need is about a $90-100 part but it is very simple to use
once installed. You don't need no stinkin' toggle switch or anything else,
you just wire the valve to the ignition (so it's 'hot' only when the
ignition is "ON"). Then, once pressure is captured in the accumulator, you
turn the ignition off- the valve closes and holds pressure until next time
you start the truck when you turn the ignition on, the built up oil in the
accumulato pressurizes your oil system and you never have -0- pressure at
startup! It's a beautiful thing. I know that Accusumps are sold by Racer
Wholesale in GA (www.racerwholesaleparts.com ??) and they do sell the elec
valve separately.

Good luck,

Bret in NC

______________________________________________________


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From: Kbeverweinaol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:11:10 EDT
Subject: FAST IDLE CHOKE ADJUSTMENT

Can anyone tell me the easiest way to adjust the fast idle.
I have an 83 E150 with 351w. Rebuilt the carberator and now
when I start it, it idles slow and then after a few minutes when
it warms up, that is when it speeds up. Appreciate any advice.

Brian
1999 F250 SuperDuty PWR STOKE
1983 E15O (Converted into Truck)
1986 F250 SuperCab
1968 Econoline

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From: BanksRVAaol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:56:53 EDT
Subject: Re: Brakes

Hey Folks,
I recently aquired an 82 Econoline 350. I need inspect the rear brakes. How
do i get the drum off? I removed the axle bolts and pulled the axle piece
out, but I don't see how it is held on. Is there a special socket I need to
remove some nut there?
Thanks in advance,
Joe

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From: FLR150aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:14:54 EDT
Subject: Re: 1995 shop manuals - full set for sale

Gang,
Not to blow this guy out of the water, but I can get a full set of shop
manuals on CD for 1992-2000, for about $75. Anyone that is interested can
email me off list.
Later,
Wayne Foy
94 Flareside SC
1999 Fun Ford Weekend
Racing series
#2 Top Truck

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From: "Mark Salvetti" mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: pre-luber
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:37:29 -0400

Del wrote:

>I am in the process of installing a pre-luber. I bought a 1 1/2 quart wet
>sump cannister from Summit Racing made by Moroso. I am looking for some
kind
>of valve that I can open and close electrically by a manual switch. Then,
>before I shut off the motor, I will close the valve, locking the oil
>pressure in the wet sump can which I can release back into the system prior
>to restarting the engine. The valve may be harder to come by than I
thought,
>unless some of you can point me to one. Thanks.

Hi Del. You could try McMaster-Carr (www.mcmaster.com), Grainger
(www.grainger.com) or MSC Supply (www.mscdirect.com), but I think you'll be
disappointed. If you can find a reliable valve that will run on 12V DC and
that can handle the temps it will likely see in the engine compartment, I
bet it will cost you at least $300. At that rate it seems to you me you'd
be better off with the pre-luber kits that use an electric pump to build up
pressure before starting.

Also, unless I'm misunderstanding your plan, I don't see how you could
retain enough pressure in a 1.5 quart cannister (that will also have some
oil in it) to pre-lube your whole engine.

Hope you get this worked out.

Mark Salvetti
1986 F-150 5.0L





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From: sliknessmindspring.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:39:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Lower Rad Hose Problem & HP Rating



> Question 1
I recently had the water pump on my '83 F100 302 replaced at the local Ford dealer and wanted to also replace both rad hoses. The upper was no proplem but Ford no longer listed a lowerr hose. The mechanic tried a number of aftermarket hoses but they did not fit right. When installed, unlike the original, they all layed on top of the ajustment nut on the steering box which would have very quickly rubed a hole through it!
____________________________________________________
I purchased a lower radiator hose from Advanced Auto that looked like it would fit on my '82 F150, 351W. I decided to go with a metal hose called cool flex (used a lot by hot rodders). You can buy it up to 4' long, bend it the way you want it, and cut it to size. I purchased a 3' for my lower hose and it looks great. You can see the upper on the F150 Resource board pics at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.uscmw.com/f150/

Slik

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