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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 80-96-list); Sun, 09 Apr 2000 22:35:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 22:35:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 80-96-list digest users Reply-to: 80-96-list Subject: 80-96-list Digest V2000 #56 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 80-96 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 80-96-list Digest Fri, 07 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 056 In This Issue: Re: 80-96-list tranny rebuild question Re: Brakes Fwd: Re: Airbag Fwd: Tailgate Up? or Tailgate Down Anyone looking to sell in Chicago area? Re: 80-96-list tranny rebuild question EEC Handbook ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DTrowbridge Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:27:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: 80-96-list tranny rebuild question i just got my C-4 tranny completely rebuilt a couple of weeks ago and now the truck runs smoother than ever. my question is this. on the parts used invoice it listed kevlar clutches and carbon fiber seals. is this the normal material these parts are made out of? i ended up paying $700 total for the complete overhaul as well as a new inupt shaft, torque converter, and flywheel. all replaceable parts were replaced and i now have a 12 month 12,000 mile warrenty on the tranny to boot! David 85 F-150 300 I6 ------------------------------ From: "Steve Schmeckpeper" Subject: Re: Brakes Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 06:44:07 -0500 I had this same problem till I disconnected the switch ;-) Smeck ----- Original Message ----- From: > A possiblity could be your emergency brake pedal being loose, and dropping > down enough to trip the switch,and turn the light on. Just a suggestion. > > Stacy Fisher > 84 F150 4x4 > 98 Ranger XLT 4x4 ------------------------------ From: JDavis1277 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:46:07 EDT Subject: Fwd: Re: Airbag Sorry, screwed up the address yesterday. Now it's old news. Butch -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar -- Return-path: JDavis1277 From: JDavis1277 Full-name: JDavis1277 Message-ID: <98.3888507.261df2f9 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:02:33 EDT Subject: Airbag To: 80-96-list-digest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 101 For the cost and trouble of disconnecting the passenger side airbag a bed mounted toolbox could be installed. That way your tools and your kids would be secure. Furthermore, if you have an adult passenger in the truck the passenger would also be secure. Better solution all round, IMHO. Butch ------------------------------ From: JDavis1277 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:47:36 EDT Subject: Fwd: Tailgate Up? or Tailgate Down Just like the Airbags question yesterday, I screwed up and used the wrong address. Sorry. Butch -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar -- Return-path: JDavis1277 From: JDavis1277 Full-name: JDavis1277 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:59:12 EDT Subject: Re: Tailgate Up? or Tailgate Down To: 80-96-list-digest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 101 Tailgate up is better. Over the years the question has been addressed several times in various publications. Testing has been done and mileage is better with the tailgate up. The most popular theory of why is that the bed is filled with air and that due to the shape of the cab and the resulting air flow over it to the bed, the air, for the most part, streams over the bed. The best evidence of this is that leaves, etc. in the bed seldom blow out of the bed while the tailgate is up. BTW, testing shows the best mileage with a cap on the bed which conforms nicely to the shape of the cab. Next best is a rigid, or semi-rigid, bed cover. Even if the theory is wrong, who needs to save the minuscule amount that MIGHT be saved by driving around with the tailgate down. Not only are you detracting from the structural integrity of your truck, you are making it so much easier for a tailgate thief to rip you off. ;=) Butch ------------------------------ From: Scrangler83 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 20:09:59 EDT Subject: Anyone looking to sell in Chicago area? Hey all, sold my car the other night and am now looking for a 4x4, ford (fullsize or small) Fuel injected vehicle, looking for very minimal rust, good running, decent overall condition, and under 4k bucks, anyone looking to sell please let me know, trying to get a truck as soon as i can Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 21:22:52 -0500 From: Jim Cannon Subject: Re: 80-96-list tranny rebuild question At 07-04-00 00:27, you wrote: >i just got my C-4 tranny completely rebuilt a couple of weeks ago and >now the truck runs smoother than ever. my question is this. on the >parts used invoice it listed kevlar clutches and carbon fiber seals. is >this the normal material these parts are made out of? I think this is better than original, IMHO. > i ended up paying >$700 total for the complete overhaul as well as a new inupt shaft, >torque converter, and flywheel. all replaceable parts were replaced and >i now have a 12 month 12,000 mile warrenty on the tranny to boot! Sounds like a deal to me. Jim Cannon Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech '29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!" '80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 19:35:50 -0700 From: chuck sanborn Subject: EEC Handbook First off I am in no way associated with this book other than a very happy customer. Sorry about the cross post but if anyone is having automotive computer problems and your trying to track down your EEC gremlins, there is one hell of a good book on this and it is downloadable. It covers 1984 - 1993. The author of the book is VERY helpful also. I got his book and being not much of an electrical kinda guy I had to take him up on his "if you have any questions, please contact me at" and gave his e-mail and phone number. As some of you know, I have been tracking down a "Vehicle fails to respond" message on the scanner when run on my 86 F-150. This gentlemen, Jeff Thorssell, spent a goodly part of Saturday and Sunday answering a whole bunch of e-mail questions. With his help I found the problem and can now pull codes on my truck. That is after I get a couple of replacment parts. So, If you are in need of a good "D.I.Y." book, get Jeffs "EEC HANDBOOK - VERSION 6" at: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dalidesign.com/hbook/ Chuck Sanborn FCA# 07175 Torrance, CA 1964 Falcon Sprint, 289 w/351W heads, etc 86 F150 300 cu in six banger (Hers) ------------------------------ End of 80-96-list Digest V2000 #56 ********************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 80-96 Truck Mailing List Send posts to 80-96-list If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. 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