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80-96-list Digest Sat, 25 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 045

In This Issue:
Got to take a break I guess :-(
detonation problem
detonation problem
Insulation
Re: detonation problem
Re: detonation problem
Re: detonation problem
need parts -- body
hard starting help FIXED
bellhousigs bolt patterns and clutch parts
bellhousigs bolt patterns and clutch parts
Battery light after the alternator fire
Re: bellhousigs bolt patterns and clutch parts
Popping Sound in Steering Gear - 94 F150

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From: "Gary R. Peters" lni.net>
Subject: Got to take a break I guess :-(
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 06:48:06 -0800


Well, I've tried to keep up at home but can't keep up so will have to unsubscr*be from both truck lists for a while. When the medication (optimistic view point) begins working as expected I will be back :-) Right now I just can't concentrate on the posts so that I enjoy them but this is just a temporary set back I'm sure. Any posts to me during the last two weeks will probably not be answered unless I get ambitious and send some personal replies.......I will try to do that as I get the energy.

I'll stay on the PF, AFTE and CORE lists. See Y'all later...........(don't respond, I will be unsubscr*bed and won't see them)

--
78 Bronco Loving, Michigan
Pot Hole Jumping Gary
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From: "Joel Thomas" prodigy.net>
Subject: detonation problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:21:13 -0600


I have a mallory unilite distributor on my 351W
it has an edelbrock carb(600)
the problem is detonation above 2500-2700 rpm
in 3 and 4th gear. NOT in 2nd i can floor it with the secondaries
opened in 2nd up to 4500rpm with no detonation
but when the secondaries open in 3rd or 4th around 2500-2700 rpm
it has a pinging sound(yes i am sure it is a pinging sound)
it has NO egr or computer stuff on it just, fuel-fire-air-electricity
to run it no computer stuff.
i even took of the carbon canister and that question is the vent line that ran from the gas tank to the carbon canister what should i do with it should i plug it up or just leave it vented into the air???
also i have richened the jets in the secondaries by 1jet up.
should i go to about 2or3 jets up.
also the initial timiing is 10 BTDC and the total is only 34.
with very little vacuum coming in the vacuum advance i have it adjusted out a lot so it doesn't advanced it hardly any.
i have been told that this engine(8.2:1 or 8.5:1) should be able to run 36 - 40 degrees total timing, whats wrong. the engine only has 2500 miles on it and my old engine did this too. you can run it in 4th gear and floor it around 1500 rp and hear the secondaries come in but when it hits 2500 ip starts the pinging and won't stop??

please can i get some suggestions?

thanks
Joel Thomas
Little Rock,AR


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From: "Joel Thomas" prodigy.net>
Subject: detonation problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:25:25 -0600


i forgot to mention that i have long tube headers on the 351W
and thought tha might make it need more gas at high rpms with secondaries open??
could that be??

thanks
Joel Thomas
Little Rock,AR


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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 08:41:37 -0800
From: scott ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Insulation

>>>>>>>>Did any of the years have hood insulators. I would like a little noise
reduction and heat retention. The underside of my '84 looks like
it
might of had one. It seems there are holes where retainers might
have went.

Go to the wrecking yard a and locate a DIESIL version.They have a lot of
insulation under the hoood.

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:54:05 -0600
From: Jim Cannon gtalumni.org>
Subject: Re: detonation problem

Joel-
Have you done everything you can to ensure there is no cross-firing going
on? Really good wires routed carefully apart from each other. Walk through
your firing order and look at each pair of wires as you go.

What do you have in for mechanical (centrifugal) advance? Springs might be
too weak.

I don't know anything about this carb; generic suggestion: check the power
enrichment circuit.

At 25-03-00 09:21, you wrote:

>I have a mallory unilite distributor on my 351W
>it has an edelbrock carb(600)
>the problem is detonation above 2500-2700 rpm
>in 3 and 4th gear. NOT in 2nd i can floor it with the secondaries
>opened in 2nd up to 4500rpm with no detonation
>but when the secondaries open in 3rd or 4th around 2500-2700 rpm
>it has a pinging sound(yes i am sure it is a pinging sound)
>it has NO egr or computer stuff on it just, fuel-fire-air-electricity
>to run it no computer stuff.
>i even took of the carbon canister and that question is the vent line that
>ran from the gas tank to the carbon canister what should i do with it
>should i plug it up or just leave it vented into the air???
>also i have richened the jets in the secondaries by 1jet up.
>should i go to about 2or3 jets up.
>also the initial timiing is 10 BTDC and the total is only 34.
>with very little vacuum coming in the vacuum advance i have it adjusted
>out a lot so it doesn't advanced it hardly any.
>i have been told that this engine(8.2:1 or 8.5:1) should be able to run 36
>- 40 degrees total timing, whats wrong. the engine only has 2500 miles on
>it and my old engine did this too. you can run it in 4th gear and floor it
>around 1500 rp and hear the secondaries come in but when it hits 2500 ip
>starts the pinging and won't stop??

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!"
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8


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From: "Kevin Tansey" achs.org>
Subject: Re: detonation problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 13:03:30 -0800

this may sound stupid but try running 92 or more octane yet? or try dumping
a bottle of octane booster in...

-Kevin


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From: Scrangler83 aol.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:41:30 EST
Subject: Re: detonation problem

Does anyone have a white hood and/or tailgate that would fit a 1988 F-350 for
sale? The hood has a bullet hole, and the tailgate got left up with the
gooseneck unhooked (not me i promise, previous owner)
I have all of the hardware and everything, typical scratches dings ect are
ok, just as long as they function well and clean up real nice that is all
that really matters. The truck is completely rust free and would like to keep
it that way (inside of tailgate doesnt really matter)

Thanks
Tom

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From: Scrangler83 aol.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:43:07 EST
Subject: need parts -- body

sorry, put my need parts thing under the subject of denotation

here is what i need

Does anyone have a white hood and/or tailgate that would fit a 1988 F-350 for
sale? The hood has a bullet hole, and the tailgate got left up with the
gooseneck unhooked (not me i promise, previous owner)
I have all of the hardware and everything, typical scratches dings ect are
ok, just as long as they function well and clean up real nice that is all
that really matters. The truck is completely rust free and would like to keep
it that way (inside of tailgate doesnt really matter)

Thanks
Tom

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From: "Joel Thomas" prodigy.net>
Subject: hard starting help FIXED
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 17:57:39 -0600


well it was the vapor lock situation someone described.
some were saying distributor but it has a mallory unilite
so that wasn't it. but i bought one of those plastic 1 inch
insulating spacers. under the carb and now it starts better than ever
not fist turnover but ont he second it fires right up.
gonna put rubber fuel line over my steel line becasue it runs close to the headers
and that is most likely the other portion of it. the 1 inch spacer gives incredibly more loower rpm torque. i mean seat of the pants difference. and the carb has a much louder rushing sound to it when you give it gas.


thanks for the help guys.
Joel Thomas
Little Rock,AR


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From: "Joe Swinko" hotmail.com>
Subject: bellhousigs bolt patterns and clutch parts
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 19:34:34 EST

Does anyone know if the bellhousing and clutch fork and whatnot from the 3.8
v-6 in the f-100's and f-150's from the early 80's will bolt up to the 302
pattern? I know the flywheels are different, the cluches are the same, and
the linkage looks the same.

Joe
______________________________________________________


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From: "Joe Swinko" hotmail.com>
Subject: bellhousigs bolt patterns and clutch parts
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 19:35:14 EST

Does anyone know if the bellhousing and clutch fork and whatnot from the 3.8
v-6 in the f-100's and f-150's from the early 80's will bolt up to the 302
pattern? I know the flywheels are different, the cluches are the same, and
the linkage looks the same. I need all the hydraulic clutch set up.


Joe
______________________________________________________


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From: "James" colstate.edu>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:11:11 -0500
Subject: Battery light after the alternator fire

I replaced the alternator in my 89 F150 after the alternator
wires burned up about two weeks ago. Now, my battery light comes
on. I had both the battery and the alternator tested and
they were OK. Does anyone have any idea why the battery
light now comes on and stays on?

Thanks,
James Hiers





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From: Lingus0169 aol.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:22:18 EST
Subject: Re: bellhousigs bolt patterns and clutch parts

im not really sure. i know when i went from a 300 i-6 to a 351w, i needed to
get a larger bellhousing,pressure plate and everything else due to the larger
clutch. but i used the old tranny. my guess is that it should fit up but dont
hold me too it.
nick

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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 19:29:52 -0600 (CST)
From: "Russell A. Hunter" hiwaay.net>
Subject: Popping Sound in Steering Gear - 94 F150

Hi,

I have a 94 F150 that has developed a sharp metallic knock or popping sound
that is coming from the steering gear. The truck has power steering with
72k miles on the truck. The sound occurs when turning the steering wheel
back and forth at slow speeds or when stopped and happens at no particular
point in the travel. It is very loud. Loud enough to be heard outside the
truck or inside the cab.

I've flushed out the old fluid and replaced it with Havoline Type F fluid
which had no effect. The mesh adjustment seems to have no effect on it.
I've checked the gear mounting bolts and the rubber steering shaft coupler
both of which were tight. The Pitman arm is tight also.

Any ideas what could be wrong with the gear?

Thanks,

Russ Hunter



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