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80-96-list Digest Tue, 21 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 042

In This Issue:
Re: Valve Cover Color
MSD and Dura-Spark
MSD
Re: Valve Cover Color
Tow Capacity
Transmission Rebuild
Re: MSD Ignitions
Fan/shroud dynamics
Re: Tow Capacity
Re: Transmission Rebuild
Re: MSD & Spark plugs comments

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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:26:19 -0800
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: Valve Cover Color

Thanks Bill, I will now go look for some 86 Ford grey spay paint.
Chuck

At 09:27 PM 3/21/00 -0500, you wrote:
>It was probably grey in color with a hint of rust mixed in. No just kidding.
>probably all grey, thats what mine was. Have a Jasper now and it's all grey -
>green color.
>
>Bill in KY
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:34:26 -0700
From: Andrew Antipas sopris.net>
Subject: MSD and Dura-Spark

Ok, to continue this MSD thread. I have a 1985 F350 with a 460 and have
a MSD 6A which I removed from my last truck before I sold it. It worked
great in my 390 powered truck with a points distributor. Made a big
difference. I have been wresting with installing the 6A in the "new"
truck. Here are the questions:

1. Is the 6A compatible with the Dura-Spark ignition?
2. Will I notice an improvement over the Dura-Spark?
3. Does MSD sell a kit which will save me from cutting the stock wires?
4. Will the 6A "box" replace the function of the DuraSpark "box"?

Thanks for the help!

Regards,

Andy


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From: "Mahaffey, Chris M" ch.etn.com>
Subject: MSD
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:56:43 -0500

Have any of you installed the MSD ignition in a truck with the 300 I6? Does
it make a noticable difference either in mileage or power? I've got a 92
F150 with the 300 and Borg/Warner 4 speed. The only modification is a 3"
Gibson cat back exhaust. I tow about 4,000 pounds with my truck and would
love to get a little more power out of it.

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From: "DannyF" ev1.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:22:57 -0600
Subject: Re: Valve Cover Color

> It was probably grey in color with a hint of rust mixed in. No just
> kidding.
> probably all grey, thats what mine was. Have a Jasper now and it's all
> grey -
> green color.
>
> Bill in KY

All the ones I've seen are gray, even into the early 90's.

Danny
fitz011 ev1.net

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:18:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Roger Lane excite.com>
Subject: Tow Capacity

I need to find out the tow capacity of my truck. It is a '89 F250 4x4 w/
5.0L, Mazda 5 speed OD, and 3.55 gears. If anybody knows where I can find
this info, or if someone has this info, please email me back (offlist,
unless you think this will beefit others).

Thank You.
Roger

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regular duties."





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From: bennettr hiwaay.net
Subject: Transmission Rebuild
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:12:52 -0600


I'm getting ready to rebuild the standard transmission in my 87 F150. It's a
TOD 4 speed with OD and although I have rebuilt several engines and worked
on almost every other part of a truck but this will be the first time I have
taken a standard transmission apart to rebuild it. Anyone on the list have
any advice on what to look out for on this job and does anyone have a
diagram of this transmission that I can get a copy of?

Rex


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From: RobWaz316 aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:24:54 EST
Subject: Re: MSD Ignitions

One more question on these. Does anyone have the 6-Off-Road ignition? It
says it is waterproof and shock proof which seems like good options, but it
is about $80 more. It also says that over 3000 rpm's it gives a single
spark, rather than the multiple spark at lower rpm's. What is the
difference? More over, what would be the point of that? I don't fully
understand the benefit of a multiple spark, as apposed to one long spark. I
checked the website, and it still is not clear to me. I have a 300, so the
over 3000 rpm's is of little importance. Any help in understanding this is
greatly appreciated.
Rob

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:30:45 -0800
From: Chuck Sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Fan/shroud dynamics

Sorry for the cross post but I want to reach as many as possible.

Radiator = 3 row
Shroud = 3" surrounds entire radiator area
Fan = 6 blade
Problem:
When I installed the new shroud the fan became totally encased inside
as opposed to the rear 1/4 of the fan sticking out the back of the old
stock shroud.
I removed the 1"+ fan spacer and replace it with a specially machined
3/8" spacer to move the fan back some what. It moved the space back
about 1" further from the radiator than it was which was about 1 1/2 - 2"
to begin with.
This seemed to make the motor run hotter on city streets with the stop/go
traffic. In fact it had not problem attaining 200~ with a few minutes wait at
a light.
Could the turbulence dynamics (is that a valid term?) cause hot air from the
radiator to be pushed back through the radiator, thereby causing this more
rapid acceleration of the temp gauge?
Do I need to move back closer to the radiator. I thought the fan was supposed
to stick out the back of the shroud somewhat.
I thank you in advance,

Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
1964 Falcon Sprint


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From: Spruce1495 aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:18:00 EST
Subject: Re: Tow Capacity

Roger,
Go to www.rvsafety.com then find your vehicle. The information is for
new trucks and cars, but the towing weights and specs haven't changed that
much in a few years. Good luck.

Bill in KY

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From: FULSZBRONC aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:21:48 EST
Subject: Re: Transmission Rebuild

In a message dated 03/22/2000 09:15:57 AM Mountain Standard Time,
bennettr hiwaay.net writes:

<< I'm getting ready to rebuild the standard transmission in my 87 F150. It's
a
TOD 4 speed with OD and although I have rebuilt several engines and worked
on almost every other part of a truck but this will be the first time I have
taken a standard transmission apart to rebuild it. Anyone on the list have
any advice on what to look out for on this job and does anyone have a
diagram of this transmission that I can get a copy of?

Rex >>


Rex (or anyone interested),
Contact me off-list if you would like a blow-up diagram and nomenclature
scanned from a service manual on this trans, it's rather large - 656671
bytes, 4 to 6 minute download - in JPG format. This transmission design
looks straight-forward, and although I've never rebuilt one of these, it
looks fairly simple. Check with a drive-train shop or parts house, they
should be able to supply you with the bearings and small-parts kit.
Alex

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:07:16 -0800
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: MSD & Spark plugs comments

At 04:55 PM 3/21/00 -0700, you wrote:
> For whatever reason, the ignition will eat your platinum plugs. Figure on
>cutting the life span of the platinum plugs in half if you decide to use
>them with an MSD ignition.

Now that is interesting because....
A buddy of mine installed a Petronix in his 351C powered '23 T-bucket. He
had occasion to call the Petronix folks today and the engineer guy he talked
to said that they (Petronix) had worked hand in hand with engineers of
different
spark plug companies. What they found was that the spark plugs (any kind)
would not work very long if anything more that 25000 volts went to them.
What can you add to this Phred?
Chuck


Chuck Sanborn FCA# 07175
Torrance, CA
1964 Falcon Sprint, 289 w/351W heads, etc
86 F150 300 cu in six banger (Hers)


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