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80-96-list Digest Sat, 11 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 032

In This Issue:
Re: Oil Pan Removal - Price issues.
Re: Modified Slurs
Re: Oil Pan Removal - Price issues.
Re: Gas boycott
'80 F-100 Electrical Problem
Help Phred!...Octane-BTU's-Timing
Re: Gas boycott
Re: '80 F-100 Electrical Problem
Re: Gas boycott
Re: Gas in Reno
Re: 300I6/MSD5 mileage data
Re: Gas in Reno
Modified Slurs, apology
ADMIN: Let it go
New MSD ignition-- HELP
Crank Pulley Timing Mark
Re: Crank Pulley Timing Mark
Re: Crank Pulley Timing Mark
Re: '80 F-100 Electrical Problem
Re: Modified Slurs
Re: Gas boycott
Re: Crank Pulley Timing Mark
Re: New MSD ignition-- HELP
Re: Crank Pulley Timing Mark
Re: 300I6/MSD5 mileage data
Power window control stuff
1985 460 HP and Torque

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:18:15 -0500
From: James Oxley thecore.com>
Subject: Re: Oil Pan Removal - Price issues.


>
> Don't know if you REALLY want the fun or not. Just a caution - while the
> idea intrigued me I found that by the time I had priced bearings, seals,
> gaskets, oil pump etc. etc. it was actually cheaper to buy a rebuilt unit.

WOW!!, that is a pretty cheap rebuild. Where did you get it and what
did it cost. I can't see it costing any more than 500$ tops to do a
crank and bearings and that would include several days of hoist rental.

OX

------------------------------

From: AWood70928 aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:53:13 EST
Subject: Re: Modified Slurs

In a message dated 3/11/00 8:34:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, gpeters3 lni.net
writes:

<< As a Christian I eventually learned to express my anger and frustration
without using 4 letter words or even using them every other word like most
factory workers seem to like to do >>

Gary, Gary, Gary.... now you went and offended the factory workers!! :-)
Here we go again :-)

I've given up trying to be "politically correct". I just go by the old saw
"Everyone has the right to be heard, but you must earn the right to be taken
seriously."

By the way, I think gary has earned that right - I was just picking on him :-)

Al
87 Big Bronco
300 I6 that finally runs


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From: "Gary R. Peters" lni.net>
Subject: Re: Oil Pan Removal - Price issues.
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:06:12 -0800

It should go without saying that we don't all have the same resources which
include in this order: Money, Time, Skill, Tools, Facilities etc... I've
rebuilt transmissions in the back of my dusty 4x4 van on a piece of plywood
for a bench and installed it while the van sat on cement blocks on a dirt
drive way. I have managed to get a school bus off my pole barn lying in
the mud in 40 degree, rainy weather and have rebuilt Harley trannys in a
garage with a concrete floor that had turned to dust (dropped all the
bearings in that mess and managed to find them all too and I have to say I
enjoyed most of those adventures in spite of it all.

If you really want to tackle this then go for it, that's how you learn :-)
You can replace just the bearings and knock the sharp lines out of the crank
with some fine sanding tape, flat sand the caps about 0.001", throw it back
together and get another 50k miles out of it for about $100. If you don't
have the money, have the time and want to learn this is a good project for
you. If you need any more info on any part of the process, just ask :-) I
helped my brother do a 400 in his garage with no equipment but jack stands
and hand tools and he ran that truck for another couple of years, sold it to
my brother in law who drove it for another several years with no trouble so
it can be done if you are careful and the crank is not it too bad a shape.
The condition of the crank is really the key to your potential success here.

Rebuilding a spare engine is the best overall solution if you can afford it
and can get the equipment to install it since it allows you to drive the
truck while you work on the spare (if it's drivable)

--
78 Bronco Loving, Michigan
Pot Hole Jumping Gary
--

> I'm going to find another
>5.0L engine and rebuild it, then swap it w/ the one in the truck. I have
>never rebuilt an engine yet, at least not a V8. I have done several small
>engines, like lawn mowers, chain saws and the like. I think this will be a
>very interesting (and fun) project for me. Once again, thank you for all
of
>your help.


idea intrigued me I found that by the time I had priced bearings, seals,
gaskets, oil pump etc. etc. it was actually cheaper to buy a rebuilt unit.



------------------------------

From: "Serian" flashmail.com>
Subject: Re: Gas boycott
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:08:40 -0500

> A friend of mine sent this to me, let me know what you guys think.
>
> Thanks,
> Nelson
>
> > Last year on April 30,1999, a gas out was staged
> > across Canada and the U.S.
> > to bring the price of gas down, and it worked.
> > It's time to do something about it again.

I think it would do far more for all of us to contact our representatives
in the US Congress, and urge them to take action against this oppressive
fuel cost. OPEC obviously wants to shaft the free world for fuel ... so ...
urge your congressional representatives to push for withdrawal of US
military protection of OPEC nations. If they cant keep fuel affordable,
then WE can't afford to spend the exorbitant price that it takes to keep
good ol' Saddam from kicking their asses.
Maybe this "gas out" would work ... maybe not, but I bet OPEC starts
being *really* nice if they think that US troops stop protecting their butts
because of idiotic costs to buy their petrol.



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From: "John Bergsing" inreach.com>
Subject: '80 F-100 Electrical Problem
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:53:24 -0800


I'm having an odd problem with my recently obtained '80 F-100 (V8). For no apparent reason, every once in a while as I'm driving down the road I can not operate my wipers, radio (not installed by Ford), or a/c heater fan. Then, all of a sudden they all start working (when activated).

Electrical problems aren't my specialty. Could this be a grounding problem?

If anyone could give me some input here, it would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely, John


------------------------------

From: "Steve Schmeckpeper" home.com>
Subject: Help Phred!...Octane-BTU's-Timing
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:29:13 -0600

Hey Phred,
With gas prices on the upswing, I've decided to switch from Super (93 oct)
to Regular (87 oct). This'll save me ~ $4/tankful.
I tuned the truck using Super-93, and set initial timing 10'. This
eliminated 98% of valve clatter under heavy loads. (Setting initial 8'
eliminated ALL the clatter but sacrificed performance.)
My 1st tankful of Reg-87...............the valves sound awful 8^< I'll have
to retard the timing 'till they quiet down, and forget about performance for
now. This brings up a couple of questions.
In a post (which I misplaced) I think you said that Octane rating had to do
with how fast the gas burned and not with the
BTU's...............So...........if 87 burns slower than 93 I should advance
the timing so the fuel is finished burning by the time the exhaust valve
opens? I'm really confused, cause I know (I think) this won't work :^(
What's the clattering noise anyway? Is it the fuel being ignited before the
intake closes (too much advance)----or fuel still burning when the exhaust
valve opens (too little advance)?
Gonna time it for 87 oct this morning, and I'll probably wind up retarding
static ~ 4' to eliminate the valve clatter. Sorry I lost your
info.......could you please post it one more time? (Maybe Ken could put it
on FTE permanently, if it's not there already.)
TIA
Smeck (thoroughly confused)
87-302EFI-no codes
T18-140k-burns no oil-now running Regular 87


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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 14:11:53 -0500
From: flagship worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Gas boycott

> I think it would do far more for all of us to contact our representatives
> in the US Congress, and urge them to take action against this oppressive
> fuel cost. OPEC obviously wants to shaft the free world for fuel ... so ...
> urge your congressional representatives to push for withdrawal of US
> military protection of OPEC nations. If they cant keep fuel affordable,
> then WE can't afford to spend the exorbitant price that it takes to keep
> good ol' Saddam from kicking their asses.
> Maybe this "gas out" would work ... maybe not, but I bet OPEC starts
> being *really* nice if they think that US troops stop protecting their butts
> because of idiotic costs to buy their petrol.
>
Do you think we sell anything we manufacture here in the USA for less
then we can because WE want to be nice? All things that are sold are
sold for the absolutely highest price they can, all things considered.
It's called the free market. When they price something too high,
someone else will step in and compete with a lower price or alternate
product (lpg, nat gas, electric, fuel cells etc.). It's always worked
since the beginning of time. If anything, write your representative and
tell them to reduce the gas taxes. They don't know how to spend the
money well so let's take it away. BTW, don't hold your breath for that
legislation to appear or pass.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 14:16:32 -0500
From: flagship worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: '80 F-100 Electrical Problem

John Bergsing wrote:
>
> I'm having an odd problem with my recently obtained '80 F-100 (V8). For no apparent reason, every once in a while as I'm driving down the road I can not operate my wipers, radio (not installed by Ford), or a/c heater fan. Then, all of a sudden they all start working (when activated).
>
> Electrical problems aren't my specialty. Could this be a grounding problem?
>
> If anyone could give me some input here, it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Sincerely, John


>
The first thing I would check is to see if all three of those
accessories share the same fuse. Whoever installed the radio may have
used that fuse as a tap. If that's the case, remove the fuse and clean
the contacts. If it's a glass fuse make sure the contact inside is not
loose making occasional breaks in the flow. Or just put a new one in
there. That's a srarting point anyway.

------------------------------

From: SlamedF150aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 14:15:15 EST
Subject: Re: Gas boycott

i don't think you guys are getting the picture. you need to not buy gas, but
also not fill up the day before. the real trick is not to drive, if at all
posable, there for you wont use any gas. it will work, it did in the 70's

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 11:33:31 -0800
Subject: Re: Gas in Reno
From: Joan and Walt Posluszny home.com>

I was in Reno Nevada the last three days.
.
At a Tesoro station, Wednesdays Prices for Super Unleaded 92 Octane was
199.9 (self serve)
.
The next day it was 201.9
.
Friday, when I left it was 204.9 (again for Super Unleaded 92 Octane).
.
I wonder what the price is today?


------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 07:12:57 +1100
From: les williams cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: 300I6/MSD5 mileage data

Hi Bill,

Bill said:
<< Here in Oregon, we're not allowed to fill our own tanks, so we're at the
mercy of semi-competent station help that short-fill or overflow the tank
on a regular basis. >>

Is this some sort of a joke, you trying to take advantage of us o/s
subscribers, who may not know any better ???? Are you selling us 'pork pies'
? ;-)) You really can't fill your own Fuel Tanks? No wonder they won't let
you play with Propane dispensers. Wow, I'm Gobsmacked!!. I am never ceased to
be amazed at what a little Ozzie Battler can learn on this list.

Blake mentioned in another post, that the tax grab is 43c per US gallon, I
assume. Down in OZ it's 46cents per litre, regardless of the actual consumer
price paid, is 'collected' by the Federal Govt.

I sincerely hope Bob Taxpayer is taking note !

Good to hear your about your preliminary sucess with MSD. I have found it to
be like using LPG, some people just won't have it that it may actually work
as advertized. I am currently running a 55 thou. plug gap, with MSD 6al, and
no apparent ill effects on LPG fuel. Yeah, sure I'm wringing it's neck, but
isn't that what its all about?.

BTW: Bill, we have our own 'bunch o' nutters' down here too .........

..... and Yeah, You guessed it, I'm still having fun in a Ford .......

regards
Les
Lost in the Land of OZ


Bill Berninghausen wrote:

> Gassed up tonight after the first tank burned by the MSD ignition.

> Here in Oregon, we're not allowed to fill our own tanks, so we're at the
> mercy of semi-competent station help that short-fill or overflow the tank
> on a regular basis. There's a pretty consistent effort to repeal the law
> forbidding self-service, but it's always defeated, just like the efforts
> to give Oregon a sales tax are defeated. Guess every place has its own
> form of insanity...
>
> Bill in Portland
>


------------------------------

Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:05:28 -0800
From: Larry pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Gas in Reno

Joan and Walt Posluszny wrote:

> I was in Reno Nevada the last three days.
> .
> At a Tesoro station, Wednesdays Prices for Super Unleaded 92 Octane was
> 199.9 (self serve)
> .
> The next day it was 201.9
> .
> Friday, when I left it was 204.9 (again for Super Unleaded 92 Octane).
> .
> I wonder what the price is today?
>
>

Gas in the Santa Cruz, CA area today was $1.88 for regular unleaded (which
I am now using in my truck), and $2.08 for 92 octane (which I have to run
in my Prelude).

Larry

'91 F-150
'98 Prelude




------------------------------

Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:21:39 -0500
From: Paul cfw.com>
Subject: Modified Slurs, apology

I just want to clarify a quote which I made about being truthful,
growing up in a better, tougher, country when the motto was "stick and
stones..." I didn't reply to any posts since most assumed I meant
"perfection" when I meant "not thin skinned".

A. I didn't say, or didn't mean to imply that a tougher skinned country
was "perfect". Different word. Different meaning. I agree that "isms"
were wrong, etc. but it was (sorry, Joe) a more individually
responsible era in general. This is common knowledge.

B. My only point was that the person who "reacts to words" is always
subordinate to the speaker of the words. Examples include being in the
military, ordering around an employee, waiting on a table, appearing in
court, being a referee, making the dog sit, etc...

In order to develop a stronger character the goal is, while obeying
lawful commands, to not be affected by unlawful ones, "don't let words
control you". Those weaker souls who cannot adjust to these
criticism/negative commands are going to spend their life being
controlled by these mere words, and will never evolve into a superior,
resilient character. This used to be military basic training 101 but I
guess, since there is no more draft, being "tough" as I describe it has
become such a rarity that people are offended by it, thinking it somehow
means "insensitive", which is not so; therefore I would like to
apoligize to anyone who didn't understand what I said, but I would
recommend some listening/reading to an old friend of mine, G.Gordon
Liddy; he can say it better than me.

Paul

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:17:24 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Let it go

Regarding the ethnic slur thread, can we please end this petty stuff
now? If you can't let it go, at least keep it off the lists. This is
directed to people on both sides of the fence.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts




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From: "Travis Moore" arkansas.net>
Subject: New MSD ignition-- HELP
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:31:16 -0600


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OK guys, with all the glowing testimonials to MSD products on this list I've
decided to take the plunge and have ordered a unit. While I wait for it to
arrive, any suggestions on the best place to install the module under the
hood of my 94 F150 300?
I can't wait to get it installed.
Doc
Email webdocarkansas.net
"Never knock on Death's door... ring the bell and run. He HATES that!"




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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:45:32 -0800
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Crank Pulley Timing Mark

Hope ya'll don't mind a repost as I got only one response when
this was last queried...not that that person was wrong, I am looking
for more than one reply and I know there a number of I-6 owners
out there that can answer this:

Motor: 1986 4.9L
There seems to be two possible timing marks on my crank
pulley. One of them is a big notch on the engine side of the
belt. The other is a skinny groove on the pulley, one the engine
sid of the belt, about 75 degrees away from the other.
Which one is the correct timing mark? The book "seems" to
show the notch but the other seems like it would be the correct
one to me.
Thanks,
Chuck


Chuck Sanborn FCA# 07175
Torrance, CA
1964 Falcon Sprint, 289 w/351W heads, etc
86 F150 300 cu in six banger (Hers)


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From: MRStace84aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:53:28 EST
Subject: Re: Crank Pulley Timing Mark

In a message dated 3/11/00 8:46:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
slammerdeltanet.com writes:

<< Motor: 1986 4.9L
There seems to be two possible timing marks on my crank
pulley. One of them is a big notch on the engine side of the
belt. The other is a skinny groove on the pulley, one the engine
sid of the belt, about 75 degrees away from the other.
Which one is the correct timing mark? The book "seems" to
show the notch but the other seems like it would be the correct
one to me.
Thanks,
Chuck >>


If I remember correctly it is the notch. When you set the timing the "V" of
the notch will line up with the marks on the timing chain cover, if you are
standing on the drivers side of the truck looking down at the crank pulley.

Hope this helps.
Stacy
84 F50 4x4
98 Ranger XLT 4x4

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:02:49 -0800
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: Crank Pulley Timing Mark

Well thanks Stacy, however the notch is in the shape of a squared U and is
read from the passenger side where the timing indicator plate is just
behind the crank pulley.
Chuck

At 10:53 PM 3/11/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Which one is the correct timing mark? The book "seems" to
> show the notch but the other seems like it would be the correct
> one to me.
> Thanks,
> Chuck >>
>
>
>If I remember correctly it is the notch. When you set the timing the "V" of
>the notch will line up with the marks on the timing chain cover, if you are
>standing on the drivers side of the truck looking down at the crank pulley.


------------------------------

From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: '80 F-100 Electrical Problem
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 23:11:59 -0500

I had that same problem with my '82 with the wipers & heater motor not
working. I found out that it was the ignition switch.After I would start
the truck & let go of the key,it would not kick back all the way off of the
"start" position. Must have been wore out inside the switch.If I were to
wiggle the switch backwards a little then this would make them work.My older
brother alerted me of this problem,because it happened to his '72 F-100.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Bergsing inreach.com>
To: Ford Trucks <80-96-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Saturday, March 11, 2000 10:59 AM
Subject: [80-96-list] '80 F-100 Electrical Problem


>
>I'm having an odd problem with my recently obtained '80 F-100 (V8). For no
apparent reason, every once in a while as I'm driving down the road I can
not operate my wipers, radio (not installed by Ford), or a/c heater fan.
Then, all of a sudden they all start working (when activated).
>
>Electrical problems aren't my specialty. Could this be a grounding problem?
>
>If anyone could give me some input here, it would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Sincerely, John
>
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Modified Slurs
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 23:16:09 -0500

I was taught that if you can't say anything nice about someone,then don't
say it at all !!! If we could keep to the truck topics we wouldn't have a
problem.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary R. Peters lni.net>
To: 80-96-listford-trucks.com <80-96-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Saturday, March 11, 2000 8:39 AM
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Modified Slurs


>Gentlemen (and ladies) can't we vent without actually using words that,
deep
>down inside we all know will offend someone? As a Christian I eventually
>learned to express my anger and frustration without using 4 letter words or
>even using them every other word like most factory workers seem to like to
>do and I still get my points across and still manage to find ways to vent
my
>feelings to my satisfaction. Since the statement we are all refering to
>here was probably not accurate in describing the condition of the average
>Arab in the first place it would than have to be considered inappropriate
in
>any case, eh? That is it would have to legally be considered an outright
>lie and there fore not appropriate?
>
>The main thing which has changed in my life is that there are fewer things
>that cause that level of anger or frustration so there is less need.
>Perhaps we should all make that a goal instead? If this continues long
>enough the american companies will go back into business and compete with
>them and there will be more jobs and a stronger economy so where's the
>negative in that?
>
>--
>78 Bronco Loving, Michigan
>Pot Hole Jumping Gary
>--
>
>> Its that kind of attitude that makes america have problems. This is a
>> free country to speak what you wish. A few words someone uses is basic
>> everyday language use to them and others, while to you its offensive for
>> some reason. I am sure you blab about some stuff that others take
>
>
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From: "Troy" yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 23:25:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Gas boycott

On 10 Mar 00, at 16:15, Nelson Vasconcelos wrote:

>A friend of mine sent this to me, let me know what you guys think.

I think it might do wonders to let the gas stations know that we are
pissed over the gas prices.

The only problem is the gas stations don't have much control over
the price of fuel per gallon.

It's going to take a lot more than just us not filling up for a day, or
two, or three, to get the OPEC nations to increase production.

I agree with another station. Stop protecting the countries that are
participating in the production cuts. Stop providing services to
them, and let other nations start filling our demand for oils.


You might be a redneck if... Your bar tab always equals your
paycheck. - Jeff Foxworthy


Troy Williams

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From: "Gary R. Peters" lni.net>
Subject: Re: Crank Pulley Timing Mark
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:26:54 -0800

If you can see where the keyway is in the crank sprocket then the mark that
is most nearly lined up with the pointer when that keyway is pointing at the
cam shaft will be the correct mark. I haven't seen one yet that the key
didn't also line up with the cam timing mark on the crank :-)

--
78 Bronco Loving, Michigan
Pot Hole Jumping Gary
--

> Motor: 1986 4.9L
> There seems to be two possible timing marks on my crank
> pulley. One of them is a big notch on the engine side of the
> belt. The other is a skinny groove on the pulley, one the engine



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From: "Gary R. Peters" lni.net>
Subject: Re: New MSD ignition-- HELP
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:43:24 -0800

Most of these modules do better if you can keep them in an air stream. I
mounted one on the front of the radiator frame facing toward the front so
air flowed over it from the front of the truck. Most are mounted on the
inner fender in a way that they are not blocked from getting some air from
the front end.

--
78 Bronco Loving, Michigan
Pot Hole Jumping Gary
--

> arrive, any suggestions on the best place to install the module under the
> hood of my 94 F150 300?



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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:59:27 -0800
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: Crank Pulley Timing Mark

At 01:26 AM 3/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
>If you can see where the keyway is in the crank sprocket

Thanks Gary...I'll try to get a look with my dentists mirror.
Chuck


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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:38:45 -0800
Subject: Re: 300I6/MSD5 mileage data
From: William G Berninghausen juno.com>

Les:

As long as I don't have to stand on my head to talk to you, I won't tell
you no lies. Oregon and New Jersey (I think) are the only two states
that prohibit self service. The other 48 states are more enlightened.
It may be a move to slow immigration into these two states, to preserve
their pristine beauty for the natives. Or maybe it's just stupid.

There are wonders upon wonders in Ford Country.

Bill

On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 07:12:57 +1100 les williams cyber.net.au>
writes:
>
> Bill said:
> << Here in Oregon, we're not allowed to fill our own tanks, so we're
> at the
> mercy of semi-competent station help that short-fill or overflow the
> tank
> on a regular basis. >>
>
> Is this some sort of a joke, you trying to take advantage of us o/s
> subscribers, who may not know any better ???? Are you selling us
> 'pork pies'
> ? ;-)) You really can't fill your own Fuel Tanks? No wonder they
> won't let
> you play with Propane dispensers. Wow, I'm Gobsmacked!!. I am never
> ceased to
> be amazed at what a little Ozzie Battler can learn on this list.
>
>
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Subject: Power window control stuff
From: craig n eggerman juno.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:33:30 EST

I got to looking in some stuff in the trunk of an near mint condition 83
Mercury Marquis that I am selling for my mom and found a box with all the
right side front door hardware from Ford in Kansas City. The parts look
used but the window glass is new. If your interested email me separate
from the list.
Eggermanjuno.com
Casper,Wyoming
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Subject: 1985 460 HP and Torque
From: craig n eggerman juno.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:33:29 EST

Been gone to Vegas for a while so am a little behind on some on the
posts. Man is that place turning into disney land.

I don't have the 85 460 curves, but I do have the 90 curves. I doubt't
there is a lot of difference.

RPM HP FT/LB
1000 70 350
2000 155 385
3000 215 365
3500 225 335

Optimum for this engine is about 2200-2500 rpm
230hp3600 rpm and 390 ft/lbs 2200 rpm
Craig
Eggermanjuno.com
Casper,Wyoming
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