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80-96-list Digest Sun, 20 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 013

In This Issue:
Clutch arm problem
Re: Parking It
Re: Water/ Condensation in Air Filter on 300 I-6 Problem
Re: Parking It
Re: Water/ Condensation in Air Filter on 300 I-6 Problem
High Gas Price Solution
High Gas Price, Why?
Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Re: High Gas Price Solution
Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Re: High Gas Price Solution
Re: Parking It
Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Re: High Gas Price
Ford F150 Gears
Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Re: Stalling problem
Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Re: High Gas Price Solution
Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Re: Clutch arm problem
C:\CoolProgs\Pretty Park.exe
Gas at $2.65 per Gallon!
Re: Water/ Condensation in Air Filter on 300 I-6 Problem
Re: Clutch arm problem
Re: Parking It
Re: Ported vs manifold vacuum
Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Re: My Miserable Mileage
Speaking of Gear Ratios
Re: Speaking of Gear Ratios
Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Re: Speaking of Gear Ratios
Re: My Miserable Mileage
Re: Differential biasing question
Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help

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From: "YETI" prodigy.net>
Subject: Clutch arm problem
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:01:56 -0500


I have a 95 F-150 w/4.9 & manual tranny. Where the the metal arm coming off of the clutch goes across and behind the brake and gas pedal over to a plastic arm that goes through the fire wall there is a small plastic retaining clip that holds the plastic arm onto the metal arm. I have had that little plastic clip break about 6 times in the past year. Now I am having another problem that might be related. Where the arm goes through the fire wall there is a plastic housing that appears to be riveted to the inside. This housing moves slightly up & down as the clutch is depressed. Upon release of the clutch it appears that sometimes this housing gets momentarily "hung up" and it makes a clicking sound. I have been down there pushing the clutch in with my hand and noticed that this is what is happening. Now I travel with extra retaining clips just waiting for the current one to break but with this new "problem" I am not sure what to do. It is really no fun to think that the next time you press down on your clutch it might not be coming back up. I was going to put some grease on the rod where it runs through the housing but I have no idea what this housing is for and I don't want to cause any damage to what is inside. I do not abuse this truck and really only drive it to & from work and around town. Rarely do I ever tow anything with it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ron


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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:32:49 -0800
From: Larry pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Parking It

Troy wrote:

> On 19 Feb 00, at 23:11, Jerome Kelly wrote:
>
> >Gasoline 1.59 a gallon in Dayton, Ohio. Looking to raise to 1.75 by
> >March. Glad I have my 94 Tempo. I am parking the F150 except when
> >needed. Does anyone know if these prices will hold or go higher.
> >Would it be practical to think about switching to propane. Wouldn't
> >this make the parts boys scream at the oil boys. Wouldn't need many
> >pollution toys.
>
> I don't know, but I am thinking about doing the same myself. I'm a
> little pissed about the gas prices myself. Holding back to try and
> increase their profits. I'll show 'em profits. I'm looking into the
> propane systems as well for my '84 F-150.
>

Regular here in the Greater Bay Area has been around $1.59 for quite
awhile. We're being warned that it will go higher as summer driving
season approaches.

My '91 just turned 56,000 miles this morning when I made my dump run.
It's a 351, and the mileage averages around 12 no matter what I'm doing.
I have a Honda that I commute in. 70 miles a day at 12 miles to the
gallon would hurt. The Honda averages over 25. THAT I can live with.
-------------------

'91 F-150 extended cab long bed, 351w
'98 Honda Prelude vtec



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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:12:34 -0500
From: flagship worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Water/ Condensation in Air Filter on 300 I-6 Problem

I don't know about the water in the intake problem but if you can pull
off the vacuum line and it runs smoother, and you have a problem with
reduced gas mileage, it sound as if you need to adjust the mixture on
the carb. Your spark plugs should be dirty if it's really rich. It
sounds like you may have adjusted the float (although it still sound as
if it's not correct) but you still must adjust the mixture.





MRStace84 aol.com wrote:
>
> Hello List,
>
> I've got a problem with my 84 F150 300 I-6, that I'm hoping some of you might
> elp.
>
> Also a while back I posted about having a problem with finding large amounts
> of raw gas in my in my intake. In fact it was so bad that after shutting the
> truck and removing a cap on my vacuum tree, gas would pour out in a solid
> stream. However, adjusting the float in the carb helped this problem. Now,
> I have two carbs, one is new remanufactured, and another is one that I just
> put a kit in, and both were taken apart and painstakingly adjusted to proper
> specs. And both carbs give me the same results. I have a long cap on my
> vacuum tree, and I always find raw gas in it after running the truck. It
> doesn't pour out, but I still find it there. Also the truck gets about 10
> mpg or less when it used to get around 14. I don't know if these two
> problems are related or not.
>
> Another strange thing is that it used to be that when I would pull off a cap
> off the vacuum tree the truck would start running really rough. Now when I
> do it, the idle just picks up, and it runs smooth. In fact I was driving it
> around with the vacuum caps off. In the past, it would quit every time you
> let off the gas, when it had a vacuum leak. Performance wise the truck runs
> great, it doesn't idle rough, load up, or anything like that. I was having a
> 75 mph brick wall, but after adjusting the float and metering rod in the
> carb, I was able to hit 84 on the interstate last weekend.
>
> The motor has somewhere between 30,000 to 40,000 miles on the rebuild, and
> the cats have been taken off and the egr valve and tube have been plugged
> off. I was thinking in terms that possibly not having the back pressure on
> the motor caused by the cats could be giving me some of the problems? If
> there are any 300 gurus out there who could give me some suggestions, on how
> to solve either of these problems, it would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Stacy Fisher
> 84 F150 4x4
>

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From: "Troy" yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:29:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Parking It

On 20 Feb 00, at 16:32, Larry wrote:

>Regular here in the Greater Bay Area has been around $1.59 for quite
>awhile. We're being warned that it will go higher as summer driving
>season approaches.

The regular here was around $1.38 or so last week before the last
batch of price increases. The mid, which I have been putting in my
truck (makes it run much better than the low), is around $1.45 or
so when it was around $1.38 a little over a week ago.

I'm MAJORLY pissed at the major price hike.

>My '91 just turned 56,000 miles this morning when I made my dump run.
>It's a 351, and the mileage averages around 12 no matter what I'm doing.
>I have a Honda that I commute in. 70 miles a day at 12 miles to the
>gallon would hurt. The Honda averages over 25. THAT I can live with.

I have an '84 F-150 2bbl, 302, it's not that bad on gas, but I have
learned how to be very light footed in my take offs, then have been
planning my trips very carefully. Then our long trips just for fun or
recreation, I have ended up using a friend's Neon more than the
truck. Much easier on gas. :)

Ah well, I'm looking into propane for my system. The only reason I
haven't done so yet is for the fact of safety. I'm afraid of explosions
incase of an accident, and I am not sure if there would be a way to
go back to a regular gas system if it should be needed.

If those options are available and I can find someone to do the
changeover for me, I will be sure to get it done if the price isn't too
bad.

You might be a redneck if... Stealing road signs is a family
outing. - Jeff Foxworthy


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From: Mike Persell home.com>
Subject: Re: Water/ Condensation in Air Filter on 300 I-6 Problem
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:02:53 -0600

If its is easy to change or check you may want to try a newer thermostat
that is the factory suggested temp. I had a similar problem with a 302
and changed the thermostat to 195...moisture and oil went away.

Mike Persell
85 F150 302 2bbl



On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I've got a problem with my 84 F150 300 I-6, that I'm hoping some of you might
> be able to give me some suggestions on. The problem is that I am finding
> water/ condensation in the air cleaner. It's definitely water and not oil.
> It is coming from the tube that hooks from the oil filler cap to the air
> cleaner, because when I unhook the tube and run the truck, I don't find any
> water in the air filter. A fair amount of water appears to accumulate, that
> last time I found about half of an inch of water in the air filter. It's
> obviously some sort of crankcase ventilation problem, but I am trying to
> figure out what. I tried putting on a new PVC valve, but this didn't help.

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From: "Robert Werner" postmaster.co.uk>
Subject: High Gas Price Solution
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 02:11:09 +0000

Why don't we just invade Iraq? I mean, they've been askin for it for quite awhile now, haven't they? I know we couldn't do this, but when I'm gettin 13.16 mpg, it seems more tempting every time I fill up.
Robert

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From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:28:35 -0600 (CST)
Subject: High Gas Price, Why?

with all this talk about the high gas prices, does anyone know why they
are going up? and does anyone know how high gas prices are in colorado
now? i'm going on vacation and would really like to know.

David
85 F-150 300 I6


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From: "Troy" yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:27:19 -0500
Subject: Re: High Gas Price, Why?

On 20 Feb 00, at 20:28, David Trowbridge wrote:

>with all this talk about the high gas prices, does anyone know why they
>are going up? and does anyone know how high gas prices are in colorado
>now? i'm going on vacation and would really like to know.

They are going up because the OPEC nations are holding back on
production to try and increase their profits. The demand is high,
they have cut production so they can charge more.

You might be a redneck if... You get homesick watching cops.
- Jeff Foxworthy


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From: "Troy" yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:27:18 -0500
Subject: Re: High Gas Price Solution

On 21 Feb 00, at 2:11, Robert Werner wrote:

>Why don't we just invade Iraq? I mean, they've been askin for it
>for quite awhile now, haven't they? I know we couldn't do this,
>but when I'm gettin 13.16 mpg, it seems more tempting every time I
>fill up.

That ain't a bad idea. I think a better solution is to beat them at
their own game. Maybe propane or other energy sources... Let
'em keep their damn oil.

You might be a redneck if... Getting a package from your post
office requires a full tank of gas in the truck. - Jeff Foxworthy


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From: SlamedF150 aol.com
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:39:18 EST
Subject: Re: High Gas Price, Why?

I CAN SAY THAT IM GETTING BROKE FOR SOME GAS. HERE IN OHIO THE GAS PRICES
HAVE BEEN LOWER THAN IN OTHER STATES, AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING TO THE POINT TO
WHERE THEY WILL START MAKING GAS RUNS. AS OF TODAY THE GAS PRICES ARE $1.52
FOR 87 OCTANE
EVERY ONE FROM ALL AROUND THE STATES SHOULD WRITE BACK TELLING WHAT THE
PRICES ARE SO WE ALL CAN GET A GOOD IDEA ON WHAT'S GOING ON

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From: "Ed Mount" cnip.net>
Subject: Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:52:31 -0600

Prices here in the Canon City, Colorado area range from 1.29 to 1.49 for
unleaded. Much higher for premium unleaded.

Prices are climbing right now because OPEC nations have teamed up to cut
crude oil production (Mexico, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, etc.)

-----Original Message-----
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To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com <80-96-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Sunday, February 20, 2000 7:30 PM
Subject: [80-96-list] High Gas Price, Why?


|with all this talk about the high gas prices, does anyone know why they
|are going up? and does anyone know how high gas prices are in colorado
|now? i'm going on vacation and would really like to know.
|
|David
|85 F-150 300 I6
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From: "Ed Mount" cnip.net>
Subject: Re: High Gas Price Solution
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:57:21 -0600

As I understand it, Iraq is not the problem, they are under embargo anyway.
So any crude oil they manage to sell beyond a bare minimum allowed by the UN
is smuggled out of their country.

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy yahoo.com>
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Date: Sunday, February 20, 2000 7:44 PM
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: High Gas Price Solution


|On 21 Feb 00, at 2:11, Robert Werner wrote:
|
|>Why don't we just invade Iraq? I mean, they've been askin for it
|>for quite awhile now, haven't they? I know we couldn't do this,
|>but when I'm gettin 13.16 mpg, it seems more tempting every time I
|>fill up.
|
|That ain't a bad idea. I think a better solution is to beat them at
|their own game. Maybe propane or other energy sources... Let
|'em keep their damn oil.
|
|You might be a redneck if... Getting a package from your post
|office requires a full tank of gas in the truck. - Jeff Foxworthy
|
|
|Troy Williams
|
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:52:46 -0800
From: Larry pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Parking It

Troy wrote:

> Ah well, I'm looking into propane for my system. The only reason I
> haven't done so yet is for the fact of safety. I'm afraid of explosions
> incase of an accident, and I am not sure if there would be a way to
> go back to a regular gas system if it should be needed.
>
> If those options are available and I can find someone to do the
> changeover for me, I will be sure to get it done if the price isn't too
> bad.
>

Troy, I have no idea about the availability of someone to do the changeover,
but I work for a transit system that used to use propane in their buses. The
one thing I can tell you is that there were many studies done when we
converted back in the mid 70's. It was determined that the tanks held up much
better than gas tanks, and that the chance of explosion was actually reduced
when compared to gasoline engines... especially certain years of Ch**y and
G*C trucks.. Our problem came from the requirement of running hundreds of
large vehicles for lots of stop and go miles. Propane was a problem for
maintenance which is one of the reasons why we went back to diesel. We did
have a few engine fires, but that was poor design and inadequate maintenance.
Even then, we never had an explosion.

Myself, I'll stick with gasoline for convenience sake. Finding propane and
then making sure the person doing the fueling knows what he/she is doing is a
whole other problem.


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From: "Troy" yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:45:57 -0500
Subject: Re: High Gas Price, Why?

On 20 Feb 00, at 21:39, SlamedF150 aol.com wrote:

>I CAN SAY THAT IM GETTING BROKE FOR SOME GAS. HERE IN OHIO THE GAS PRICES
>HAVE BEEN LOWER THAN IN OTHER STATES, AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING TO THE POINT TO
>WHERE THEY WILL START MAKING GAS RUNS. AS OF TODAY THE GAS PRICES ARE $1.52
>FOR 87 OCTANE

That for the 87 octane. That is about the highest price in town for
the 89. Right now it's around $1.38 - $1.40 for the low, the mid is
anywhere between $1.45 to $1.52 in Ocala. I think the 93 octane
was around $1.59 or so.

> EVERY ONE FROM ALL AROUND THE STATES SHOULD WRITE BACK TELLING WHAT THE
>PRICES ARE SO WE ALL CAN GET A GOOD IDEA ON WHAT'S GOING ON

That's not a bad idea. I am just hoping something can be done
soon. Either that, or I can find a shop that will convert my truck to
propane.

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- Jeff Foxworthy


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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:11:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary Mazzone excite.com>
Subject: Re: High Gas Price


Here in southern NJ the prices for regular range from 1.14 - 1.30 per gal.
Even with the self serve the prices seem to be cheaper here.

Gary Mazzone
95 F-150 4x flairside





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From: "Nelson Vasconcelos" mindspring.com>
Subject: Ford F150 Gears
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 22:16:45 -0500

I have a 1989 Ford F150 300 L6 , 4sp/OD. It came stock with 3.08 gears. I'm
now running 33-12.50-15 BFG AT's and I want to replace factory gears with
approximately a 3.50 gear ratio.

I live in Southeastern Massachusetts and I was wondering if anyone has any
recommendations for shops for my gear swap.

Thanks,
Nelson

nelson150 mindspring.com



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From: Mike Persell home.com>
Subject: Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:24:56 -0600

They've cut prduction by 7%...the rest of the price is speculation and
leverage.

Mike


On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> Prices here in the Canon City, Colorado area range from 1.29 to 1.49 for
> unleaded. Much higher for premium unleaded.
>
> Prices are climbing right now because OPEC nations have teamed up to cut
> crude oil production (Mexico, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, etc.)
>

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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 22:54:53 EST
Subject: Re: High Gas Price, Why?

Well, here in Atlanta, GA, 3 weeks ago the gas was 1.29 a gal for Premium.
Now its 1.42 and that's at a "cheaper" station. At the big chain guys it is
1.59 or more.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
Wayne's Flareside and
Ford Page


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From: slikness mindspring.com
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:34:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Stalling problem

Well, it does sound like a vacuum problem. It was suggested that I run my distributor off a full vacuum port rather than the timed port on the carb and I've done that. The mechanic told me that Fords like a lot of vacuum at idle and the timed port doesn't always give enough.
Don't know if it will help, but I thought I would pass it along.

Slik

>...I also think there is a 2 port heat
vacuum valve behind the smog pump but I have not replaced that one....Do you
have any ideas?

Rob Sartorius
Edmond, OK<


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From: "Michael R. Dunbar" vtc.vsc.edu>
Subject: Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:15:12 -0500

I found some irony last week during my vacation (if you can call it that, I
was stuck behind a desk working the whole time) Anyway, I was watching the
"launch" of Windows 2000, the operating system that is supposed to solve
everyone's problems. Stability, security, world peace, the nations deficit,
etc etc etc. Anyway, the irony I found was that the price of a barrell of
oil was $30. On Thursday, Feb. 17 (Win2K Day as we were calling it in the
office) the price of oil dropped down to $26.62! Granted it's not much, but
it's a "little" bit if positive news. Further reading said that the oil
cartels are slowly begininning to consider increasing their production as
the economy is going to come back around and hit them in a negative manner.

However, for 87 octane, gas is averaging from $1.35 to $1.46 around here.
Sad as it is, these prices, especially being on a college budget, my appeal
starts growing for that little H*onda Insight, a hybrid with a 3 cylinder
engine and an electric motor, gives it 70 mpg! Granted, when gas prices come
down, I could just throw this little car in the back of my truck for weight
during the winter seasons.

Here's a link for that story I read last week:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/000217/bnd.html

So, if anyone is in the Vermont area and see's a guy pushing a 2wd 89 F-150
XLT Lariat, give me a lift? She's got 160k on the engine, but she's strong
as the day she rolled off the assembly line, just doesn't do me much good
when I'm out of gas! Thanks!

Mike Dunbar
89 F-150 XLT Lariat
White River Jct., Vermont
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"Just remember, the wheel's spinning but the hamster's dead"


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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:59:47 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki little-mountain.com>
Subject: Re: High Gas Price, Why?

>They've cut prduction by 7%...the rest of the price is speculation and
>leverage.
>

I think the oil companies are using the OPEC cut as an excuse to raise the
price. The price now is around $30/bbl. In the 70's oil embargo the price
went up to over $40/bbl. But back then the tax was about half of what it is
now.

So, if you write your congressman, tell them to cut the taxes on fuel.

I have heard that the OPEC supply is supposed to go up in March or April,
so the price should go down. I think the oil companies are just ripping us
off as much as possible before the price falls.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 01:06:12 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki little-mountain.com>
Subject: Re: High Gas Price Solution

>That ain't a bad idea. I think a better solution is to beat them at
>their own game. Maybe propane or other energy sources... Let
>'em keep their damn oil.

One of the most promissing crude oil alternatives on the horizon is
biodiesel made from soy bean oil. This would help improve our farm economy
too.


Blake
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From: MRStace84 aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:03:58 EST
Subject: Re: High Gas Price, Why?

Gas is running around $1.49 for regular, $1.59 for plus, and $1.69 or
premium, I think (I'm kind of afraid to look!!!). here in the Charleston, WV
area. I used to run plus in my Ranger, but I had to quit that nonsense.

Stacy Fisher
Red House, WV
98 Ranger XLT 4x4
84 F150 4x4

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From: "Steve Schmeckpeper" ee.lsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Clutch arm problem
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:05:45 -0600

Ron,
I solved this identical problem by replacing the Clutch Pedal Arm, the Rod,
and the Clip. The new parts from Ford were ~$50.
If you look closely you'll see that your Arm and Rod are worn from metal to
metal contact. You can replace Clips 'till the cows come home and never cure
the problem!
This is a SAFETY issue...............If yer stopped (in gear) with the
clutch pedal depressed and the rod pops off the clutch pedal arm, the truck
could leap forward someone might get hurt :-(
Smeck,
87 F150/302/T18


> I have a 95 F-150 w/4.9 & manual tranny. Where the the metal arm coming
off of the clutch goes across and behind the brake and gas pedal over to a
plastic arm that goes through the fire wall there is a small plastic
retaining clip that holds the plastic arm onto the metal arm. I have had
that little plastic clip break about 6 times in the past year.
Ron


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From: "Phil Jern" ameritech.net>
Subject: C:\CoolProgs\Pretty Park.exe
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 22:33:36 -0500


Test: Pretty Park.exe :)

Phil Jern


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From: "Bowman, John A" mtt.ca>
Subject: Gas at $2.65 per Gallon!
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:03:16 -0400

You think gas at $1.56 is expensive! I am paying about $2.56 per US gallon
here in Nova Scotia, Canada. With my '83 F100's 302 drinking at a rate of
10 - 11 mpg in the winter it gets expensive! Unfortunately its my only
transportation.

*************************
John Bowman,
'83 F100, "Big Red"
Nova Scotia
Canada
*************************


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From: "Pat & Paula" csolve.net>
Subject: Re: Water/ Condensation in Air Filter on 300 I-6 Problem
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:40:09 -0500

I > I've got a problem with my 84 F150 300 I-6, that I'm hoping some of you
might
> be able to give me some suggestions on. The problem is that I am finding
> water/ condensation in the air cleaner. It's definitely water and not oil.
> It is coming from the tube that hooks from the oil filler cap to the air
> cleaner, because when I unhook the tube and run the truck, I don't find
any
> water in the air filter.

I have the same problem,,,I posted it about a month ago however no one could
help. Someone mentioned condensation was the culprit but I can't see that
developing that much water. I am thinking along the lines of a head gasket
leak. Are there any little beads of water on your dipstick??? Hope some
one out there can help this time..




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From: "Mahaffey, Chris M" ch.etn.com>
Subject: Re: Clutch arm problem
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:17:36 -0500

< year.>>

I had a similar problem with my 92. What I found was the two bolts that
hold the clutch master cylinder to the firewall had loosened up. You can
access these bolts from the engine side of the firewall.


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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:25:56 -0600
From: Andy Norris allenpress.com>
Subject: Re: Parking It


I guess I need to stay more on top of current events. Is Jimmy Carter
president again? I'm in Kansas, and the $1.34/1.44/1.50 is enough to make
me try really hard to get along with the wife enough to ride to work with
her . We've got an '88 Toyota Camry that sips gas compared to my '89
F250 351... the truck gets an amazing 10 MPG to the Camry's 33...

Andy

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Ported vs manifold vacuum
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:08:36 -0500

You can actually use either one but manifold is simpler in many cases and
some after market carbs simply don't have a port for this. The distinction
is the fuel mixture. You have to re-tune the idle circuit both mixture and
speed when you change from one to the other.

A ported vac setup will allow a richer initial idle mixture so the
transition will be richer also which may, in some cases, eliminate that off
idle stumble we are so familiar with. The throttle plate will also be
slighly more open due to the richer mixture and retarded timing conditions
so there will be less "transition" when you step on it.

Ported:
richer idle (due to timing)
more idle speed screw (throttle plate more open) but same idle speed
less advance (initial only, about 10 degrees)

Manifold:
very lean idle mixture (again, due to timing)
much less idle speed screw (throttle plate nearly closed) at same speed
much more advance (full vac which makes about 35-40 degrees total at idle)

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>Well, it does sound like a vacuum problem. It was suggested
>that I run my distributor off a full vacuum port rather than
>the timed port on the carb and I've done that. The mechanic
>told me that Fords like a lot of vacuum at idle and the timed
>port doesn't always give enough.

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From: Bakendaol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:11:14 EST
Subject: Re: High Gas Price, Why?

In a message dated 2/20/00 7:29:03 PM Mountain Standard Time,
DTrowbridgewebtv.net writes:

> and does anyone know how high gas prices are in colorado
> now? i'm going on vacation and would really like to know.
>
I paid $1.24 for unleaded regular this morning in Denver.
D Baken

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From: "DannyF" ev1.net>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:32:20 -0600
Subject: Re: My Miserable Mileage

> A quick note, if you are running 33s and have not changed to a numerically
> higher
> gear ratio, you have taken your drive train out of it's power band. It
> will have to
> work harder
> to achieve what it could previously. This is one of many things that will
> impact
> the performance of our rigs.
>
> Bob

Bob's right on the money here.

When you factor in that OD transmissions are barely in the lower
end of the torque range, all it takes is a little diameter change on
the driven wheels and your having to push a little harder for the
same speed(i.e., worse gas mileage). Regearing is the cure. But
nobody wants to spend the $300-500 on top of the cost of their new
tires/wheels to correct it.

Another factor is the sheer additional weight of the bigger tires. Add
weight to your driven parts and you lose power/mileage. A lot of
owners can't fathom this one.

Another one: rolling resistance. Most times when you increase
section width(tire contact to the road), you increase rolling
resistance(i.e., slight power loss, worse mileage).

So when you change the stock 75's or 78's tires to the big boys,
be aware. A good example: ask any 4 X 4 Toyota owner w/the big
'skins how he's doing on power/mileage vs stock. He/she's working
the engine to do the speed limit!
Danny
fitz011ev1.net

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From: "Michael R. Dunbar" vtc.vsc.edu>
Subject: Speaking of Gear Ratios
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:07:06 -0500


I've noticed a bit of talk about gear ratios. I'm considering changing mine
this summer while going through a list of modifications and various work.
However, how do I determine what I've got in there now? 2nd, what would be a
good switch for me to do? I don't do any off-road driving and it's not
likely that I'll be hauling around much weight. Can I change the gears out
so I can get off the line decently, but also have good top end while on the
interstate?

Mike Dunbar
89 F-150 XLT Lariat
White River Jct., Vermont
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.xoom.com/mdunbar420/truck.htm

"Just remember, the wheel's spinning but the hamster's dead"



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From: Greg Carter entrust.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of Gear Ratios
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:15:35 -0500

- door pillar sticker has code, owners manual has ratio for code under
towing section.

- RPM = 334.2 x transmission ratio x axle ratio x mph / tire diameter
- mph = RPM x tire diameter / (334.2 x transmission ratio x axle ratio)

generally you'll want a final cruise (65 mph) rpm of 2200 or so rpm for
good mileage in 5th or OD.

You can calculate your top speed in any gear with the above equations as
long as you know your trans gear ratio in the particular gear and your shift
rpm.
Bye.

Greg Carter
Entrust Technologies - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.entrust.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/buildup/dana60.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael R. Dunbar [mailto:mdunbarvtc.vsc.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 11:07 AM
To: Ford
Subject: [80-96-list] Speaking of Gear Ratios



I've noticed a bit of talk about gear ratios. I'm considering changing mine
this summer while going through a list of modifications and various work.
However, how do I determine what I've got in there now? 2nd, what would be a
good switch for me to do? I don't do any off-road driving and it's not
likely that I'll be hauling around much weight. Can I change the gears out
so I can get off the line decently, but also have good top end while on the
interstate?

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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: High Gas Price, Why?
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:48:25 -0500

Gas here in N.W. Ohio is $1.45 for 87 octane,$1.55 for 89 & $1.65 for 92. I
hope it starts to go down soon.
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy yahoo.com>
To: 80-96-listford-trucks.com <80-96-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Sunday, February 20, 2000 9:59 PM
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: High Gas Price, Why?


>On 20 Feb 00, at 21:39, SlamedF150aol.com wrote:
>
>>I CAN SAY THAT IM GETTING BROKE FOR SOME GAS. HERE IN OHIO THE GAS PRICES
>>HAVE BEEN LOWER THAN IN OTHER STATES, AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING TO THE POINT
TO
>>WHERE THEY WILL START MAKING GAS RUNS. AS OF TODAY THE GAS PRICES ARE
$1.52
>>FOR 87 OCTANE
>
>That for the 87 octane. That is about the highest price in town for
>the 89. Right now it's around $1.38 - $1.40 for the low, the mid is
>anywhere between $1.45 to $1.52 in Ocala. I think the 93 octane
>was around $1.59 or so.
>
>> EVERY ONE FROM ALL AROUND THE STATES SHOULD WRITE BACK TELLING WHAT
THE
>>PRICES ARE SO WE ALL CAN GET A GOOD IDEA ON WHAT'S GOING ON
>
>That's not a bad idea. I am just hoping something can be done
>soon. Either that, or I can find a shop that will convert my truck to
>propane.
>
>You might be a redneck if... Your spare tire is a cement block.
> - Jeff Foxworthy
>
>
>Troy Williams
>
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From: FLR150aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:52:08 EST
Subject: Re: Speaking of Gear Ratios

In a message dated 2/21/00 11:08:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mdunbarvtc.vsc.edu writes:

<< However, how do I determine what I've got in there now? 2nd, what would be
a
good switch for me to do? >>
Look at the axle tag. It will have the gear ratio on it...with the year and
all I would say your truck would have the 3.08s in it. A good all around gear
for highway and street is either the 3.55's or the 3.73's.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC (3.55 equipped)

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: My Miserable Mileage
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:50:07 -0500

I'd like to "qualify" some of these statements.............. With older
trucks the rpm from the factory was designed to do heavy work and not too
concerned about mileage so putting 33's on one of them actually brings the
rpm into a more economical range. This is born out by the fact that the
factory began doing this (taller gearing, not tires) in the late 70's and we
got 2.50, 2.75 and 3.00 gears instead of 3.5 and 3.87 and we also got the
wide ratio gear sets to offset the lower rpm at take off etc... What they
found out though is that there were not enough gears to fully take advantage
of each situation so the engine could be kept in it's happy spot most of the
time, especially with smaller engines.

Later transmissions have lower low gears with moderate rear ends and over
drives to bring them up to the 2.5 standards but we have to remember that
each application was designed with several factors taken into account:

Engine size
Cam
tire size
application
vehicle weight

Shift points and actual gear ratios are picked based on those paramaters so
when we stick larger tires on our trucks we need to determine those things
too and make a good decision as to where the rpm should be. Each case is a
new animal and there is no general rule of thumb, especially with the newer
ones. Lager engines generally tolerate more tire than smaller ones just as
we might suspect due to a broader power band.

All the comments about rolling resistance, foot print, and weight are
correct and each adds a small factor to the equation so that the ratios are
not a direct one for one interpolation. With wide tires there is also wind
resistance, believe it or not! That's where a little good judgement comes
in. If you already have an over drive that puts the rpm near 1800 at 60
with stock tires then you will probably kill your performance and mileage
with larger tires if you do not re-gear but with older trucks running near
2500 rpm stock you can run the rpm down quite a bit before either one begins
to really suffer much unless you are towing which brings in even more
parameters to mess up the equation :-)

What I've generally noticed is that most engines seem to like to run at
1800-2000 rpm at 60 for best economy depending on engine size and
application except for towing applications, of course :-) The larger the
engine and the greater the vehicle weight the more critical the cam becomes
in this formula. In most cases you need to consider all these things if
economy AND performance are top priorities.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>Bob's right on the money here.
>
>When you factor in that OD transmissions are barely in the lower
>end of the torque range, all it takes is a little diameter change on
>the driven wheels and your having to push a little harder for the
>
>Another factor is the sheer additional weight of the bigger tires. Add
>
>Another one: rolling resistance. Most times when you increase

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Differential biasing question
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:10:37 -0500

Biasing means to put more torque on one wheel or another and the only ones I
know of that fit that description are the LS type diffs, either clutch or
gear type. Both of these more or less gradually bias the torque to the
wheel with the most traction.

Newer vehicles also have a "brake" biasing system for better traction which
theoretically replaces the LS by braking the freer spinning wheel to keep
them both turning at the slowest speed which automatically biases the wheel
with the most traction through the open differential gears. They use the
ABS in this case with additional code. I believe that's what they use on
the windstars.

Gear type LS's work by gearing both axles together with a gear set having a
ratio greater than 1:1 to allow full freedom in full lock turns but restrict
wheel spin to that ratio so that no matter what happens the free wheel can
not spin any faster than "X" ratio to the other without driving the other so
again the torque gets shoved on to the wheel with the most traction.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>I've been looking at several types of traction enhancing
>differentials for my 2 wheel
>drive F150 long bed. One spec. I see stated often is biasing,
>which is sometimes given
>in a ratio

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: ez locker vs. powertrax help
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:17:05 -0500

You wouldn't think that wedge and tire size wouldn't be so important in that
case would you? Dirt track cars use spools for the most part and tire size
and wedge play a very important role in turning but they are in a turn
virtually all the way around the track on small tracks so they sacrifice a
little handling in the straights to get better in the turns. NASCAR cars
spend more time going straight than dirt cars so perhaps spools wouldn't
work as well, eh?

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>options allowed
>for the vehicles was either an open diff or a detroit locker.

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