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80-96-list Digest Mon, 26 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 123

In This Issue:
body parts (was tailgate)
'84 come '96
Another Go On the Oil Filter-Go-Round
warm running 300 UPDATE
Re: Another Go On the Oil Filter-Go-Round
ADMIN: How have they been?
Re: warm running 300 UPDATE
Re: Engine Woes (300 I-6, EFI)
AC hiss
Re: AC hiss
Re: ADMIN: How have they been?
Re: Engine Woes (300 I-6, EFI)
Re: warm running 300 UPDATE
Re: Engine Woes (300 I-6, EFI)
Re: ADMIN: How have they been?
Re: Engine Woes (300 I-6, EFI)
Re: ADMIN: How have they been?
'93 f150 a good buy?

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Subject: body parts (was tailgate)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:54:00 -0400
From: Almus Kenter head-cfa.harvard.edu>


Well given that the aftermarket tailgates are junk(?)
(previous thread).....
Are there any companies that make decent replacement body panels?
My truck could seriously use rocker panel replacement (as well as door
panels..)
but the replacement panels I got were very different from the originals
in regards to how seams and joints go together. Given that I
live in the NE most of the junk yard trucks have equal or worse
rust/cancer. Previous cars that I worked on had very similar rust
repair panels and I would drill out the spot welds and piece things
back with original seams...Do I have to get parts from ford?
Does ford have the equivalent of rust repair panels...?

Thanks.
-Almus

87 F150




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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:01:29 -0500
From: Steve Randa ch-advertising.com>
Subject: '84 come '96

Is it possible to bolt the later model sheet metal, bumper and grille to
an earlier truck? I know it's something accomplished very easily with
the fox bodied Mustangs.

Steve Randa

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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:07:01 -0700
From: Marv & Marge lafn.org>
Subject: Another Go On the Oil Filter-Go-Round

Tim wrote:
> Anyone remember what the best oil filter was supposed to have been?

I've been using Wix 51515's, but recently changed to Baldwin B-2's.
Some truck repair places will tell you that the Fleetguard LF3313's
are even better, but I don't know. I've got one to try, but what am
I gonna' find? More soot? Dunno. I used to use Baldwins some thirty
years ago. Bought 'em by the case from a fleet operator. Then the
distributer went out of business. They were sort of hard to find here
in the Los Angeles area, so I used Fram, 'till I read the Minimopar
document. I even worked for AlliedSignal, and dropped them like a hot,
oil-filled piece of ........ Looked around and found a new Baldwin
distributer. BTW, Hastings is made by Baldwin, as well. If you look
inside a Scamsoil, they look virtually identical, too. (Wonder who
makes 'em for them?) But Fleetguard is (according to those who SHOULD
know) made by Cummins, not vended to them. Gotta wonder, though, why
they would set up a filter line when they could have them made to their
specs by a filter manufacturer. I do like the idea that they come
sealed in plastic shrink-wrap.

My local Napa guy is selling the Napa Wix for about $7.00. I've been
buying the Wix's at a heavy-duty fleet truck repair place for $3.52. Call around for
prices, and consider buying them by the case. They
might be even cheaper that way.

The Baldwins are $4.13, and the Fleetguards are $4.39 at the fleet
repair places.

-Marv-
'89 F-250

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From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:10:50 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: warm running 300 UPDATE

well guys, i finnally had enough time the other day to change out my
stat on my truck. i installed a 195 degree stat and it didn't help.
the temp now runs right around the M and A in NORMAL. and that is with
my A/C off. with my A/C on, the truck proceeds to overheat within 5
minutes. if i am stopped too long then the temp will rise from around
the M and A to the L and above if i let it. so the stat change did not
help the problem, but only made the problem worse.

and just to refresh people's minds, this is occuring on an '85 F-150 3
speed auto with the 300 I6. all components to the cooling system are
now brand new. new parts include water pump, radiator hoses, radiator,
stat, fan clutch, and temp sensor. i made sure to burp the system
sompletely, and i have a good mix of water/antifreeze. i'm almost at my
whits end with this.

David
85 F-150 300 I6


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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:53:59 -0400
From: S Spaulding worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Another Go On the Oil Filter-Go-Round

For what it's worth, whenever I use NAPA Gold filters in my '96 Crown
Victoria, I get a rattle upon startup. When I use Pennzoil filters,
there is no rattle. I realize it's a different setup.

Steve

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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:18:49 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: How have they been?

Just wanted to check in with the list members to see
how the new ads are going over? This batch will run
for approximately 3 days. Your comments and suggestions
are welcome.

Thanks,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts



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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:56:49 -0500
From: Jim Cannon gtalumni.org>
Subject: Re: warm running 300 UPDATE

-- Unable to decode HTML file!! --


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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:13:32 -0500
From: Jim Cannon gtalumni.org>
Subject: Re: Engine Woes (300 I-6, EFI)

-- Unable to decode HTML file!! --


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From: "Nelson Vasconcelos" mindspring.com>
Subject: AC hiss
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:36:28 -0400

Hi,
The other day I started my truck and turned on the AC. About 30 second
later I heard a loud (high pressure) hissing sound. I went right for the
lever and shut off the AC. As soon as I did that the hiss went away. It did
it again a couple of days later while I was driving but just for a few
seconds. I also noticed that the AC is not quite as cold as it used to be. I
definitely think it's a AC system problem just what I don't know.

Please help, It's starting to get real hot here in New England...

Thanks

Nelson
89 F150 4x4, 300I6, 5spd
3" body lift,4"skyjacker lift, 33x12.50x15 Bfg AT's



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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:22:39 -0500
From: Jim Cannon gtalumni.org>
Subject: Re: AC hiss

-- Unable to decode HTML file!! --


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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:24:51 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy uswest.net>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: How have they been?

It's quite a line of info. I think it has created a few odd posts.

Unable to decode HTML or something.

I don't have a problem with it. I wish it could be condensed to a
line or two.

Bob


Ken Payne wrote:

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From: FULSZBRONC aol.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:38:14 EDT
Subject: Re: Engine Woes (300 I-6, EFI)

Mike,
The dealer was right in suggesting that you cover the basics, being sure the
engine is tuned-up, air and fuel filters up-to-date etc., but your
drivability complaint sounds suspiciously like a bad MAF. It's hard to say
from here, since other things such as a fuel pump or a TPS or a pressure
regulator can present similar symptoms. There's no hard and fast rules
here.... a specific complaint can't always be positively pinned down to a
particular component. I used to think that if the MAF was unplugged and the
engine ran better it was proof positive of a bad one, but I recently ran into
a case where unplugging it made the engine run worse, but replacing it cured
the complaint (hunting idle, hesitation on acceleration). Try gently
cleaning it with some brake cleaner on a Q-tip and see if it improves any,
oil from the K&N can sometimes foul the MAF filament.
Alex

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From: "Mike Persell" home.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:17:10 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: warm running 300 UPDATE

Timing too far retarded can cause overheating but usually only under
loaded or driving conditions. Lack of advance can also contribute.

Make sure the belts on the water pump are not slipping. Also make
definitely sure the radiator cap is not bleeding off pressure too soon.


On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:10:50 -0500 (CDT), David Trowbridge wrote:

>well guys, i finnally had enough time the other day to change out my
>stat on my truck. i installed a 195 degree stat and it didn't help.
>the temp now runs right around the M and A in NORMAL. and that is with
>my A/C off. with my A/C on, the truck proceeds to overheat within 5
>minutes. if i am stopped too long then the temp will rise from around
>the M and A to the L and above if i let it. so the stat change did not
>help the problem, but only made the problem worse.
>
>and just to refresh people's minds, this is occuring on an '85 F-150 3
>speed auto with the 300 I6. all components to the cooling system are
>now brand new. new parts include water pump, radiator hoses, radiator,
>stat, fan clutch, and temp sensor. i made sure to burp the system
>sompletely, and i have a good mix of water/antifreeze. i'm almost at my
>whits end with this.
>
>David
>85 F-150 300 I6
>
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From: "deacondemon" yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Engine Woes (300 I-6, EFI)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 03:00:04 -0400

In talking to one of the guys I work with, they recommended that I look into
my cat. If it is old/gummed up, could this possibly create similar problems?
I figure since I have little to do tomorrow until I go to work at 5pm, that
I might as well give it a look, but am unsure on what to look for and if
this could be a source of problem.

Mike Dunbar
89 F-150 XLT Lariat
White River Jct., Vermont
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"Just remember, the wheel's spinning but the hamster's dead"


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From: soffiler centraltools.com
Subject: Re: ADMIN: How have they been?
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:05:58 -0400

Ken: No problem whatsoever. Just a block of text at the bottom that is
easy to ignore if that is your inclination. I can't see why anyone would
have a problem with it.

Steve Offiler
soffiler centraltools.com
'97 F250HD XL 4x4, 351, E40D, 4.10's

>
> Just wanted to check in with the list members to see
> how the new ads are going over? This batch will run
> for approximately 3 days. Your comments and suggestions
> are welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken Payne
> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
>


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From: "Nichols, Josh" svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: Engine Woes (300 I-6, EFI)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:28:13 -0700

MAF = Mass Air Flow sensor.......Gonna be hard for the MAF to be bad when a
89 300-I6 doesn't even have one. In 89 the I6 used Speed Density EFI.
Speed Density Fuel injection uses a MAP sensor.

If your MAP sensor is bad it would have a similar effect as MAF sensor, so
this could still be your program

Josh

-----Original Message-----
From: FULSZBRONC aol.com [mailto:FULSZBRONC aol.com]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:38 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Engine Woes (300 I-6, EFI)


Mike,
The dealer was right in suggesting that you cover the basics, being sure
the
engine is tuned-up, air and fuel filters up-to-date etc., but your
drivability complaint sounds suspiciously like a bad MAF. It's hard to say
from here, since other things such as a fuel pump or a TPS or a pressure
regulator can present similar symptoms. There's no hard and fast rules
here.... a specific complaint can't always be positively pinned down to a
particular component. I used to think that if the MAF was unplugged and the

engine ran better it was proof positive of a bad one, but I recently ran
into
a case where unplugging it made the engine run worse, but replacing it cured

the complaint (hunting idle, hesitation on acceleration). Try gently
cleaning it with some brake cleaner on a Q-tip and see if it improves any,
oil from the K&N can sometimes foul the MAF filament.
Alex
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:35:26 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: How have they been?

At 12:24 AM 6/27/00 , you wrote:
>It's quite a line of info. I think it has created a few odd posts.
>
>Unable to decode HTML or something.
>
>I don't have a problem with it. I wish it could be condensed to a
>line or two.
>
>Bob

The "Unable to decode HTML" comes from people using Microsoft or
Netscape emailers and they're trying to send content formatted
as HTML.

Ken



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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:30:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Hall garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
Subject: '93 f150 a good buy?

how do,

it looks like I need a truck to haul some stuff 'round town. I found a
'93 f150 xlt here with 187000 miles on it. asking $5000. seems to run
okay, new (cheap) paint, body good, interior okay. the side of the bed
nearest the cab is dented against the cab (as if somebody shot a telephone
pole into the cab...) somebody wanna give me an estimate about if it's an
okay deal...I don't know enough about f150s to be sure.

and while I'm at it, what mind of mods can I do to this truck, wrt body?
specifiaclly, can I change it from a regular bed to a stepside? if not,....


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