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80-96-list Digest Mon, 19 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 117

In This Issue:
Re: 302 to 351 parts swap
Re: 302 to 351 parts swap
Re: 302 to 351 parts swap
Re: Alternative fuel trucks...
Re: Front Shock Travel
Re: Tranny questions..again
Tailgate?
Re: Front Shock Travel
Re: Front Shock Travel
Re: Tranny questions..again
Re: Front Shock Travel
Re: Front Shock Travel
Re: Alternative fuel trucks...
Superchip
Re: Superchip
Re: Alternative fuel trucks...
Re: Superchip
Re: Superchip
ADMIN: Important FTE Announcement
Re: E4OD
Re: Superchip
Re: Tailgate?
Re: Tranny questions..again
Re: Tranny questions..again

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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:47:32 -0700
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: 302 to 351 parts swap

At 10:51 PM 6/19/00 -0400, you wrote:
>can i use my 351w intake on the 302 crate motor?

In a word...No.
The 351 intake is wider..


Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
86 F150 300 cu in six banger
FAX 1-310-822-6815


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From: "Serian" flashmail.com>
Subject: Re: 302 to 351 parts swap
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 00:50:05 -0400

> hi..i have an 351w with a performer intake on it..i am
> planning on buying a 302 crate motor..can i use my
> 351w intake on the 302 crate motor?
> nick

nope ... the 351W intake, though of the same general
design as the 302, is a bit wider ... it will not fit.



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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 01:23:35 -0400
Subject: Re: 302 to 351 parts swap
From: chris hinckley juno.com>

nope the 351 has a different valley, it's wider.


Chris Hinckley
92 EB - w/stuff (Pepe)
95 F150 - ext. cab 4x4 (Newt)
00 Excursion - PSD (Titus)
95 Buell - for 2 wheel street fun

,
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:51:42 EDT Lingus0169 aol.com writes:
> hi..i have an 351w with a performer intake on it..i am planning on
> buying a
> 302 crate motor..can i use my 351w intake on the 302 crate motor?
> nick
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 00:29:41 -0700
From: Chris McKinnon cnx.net>
Subject: Re: Alternative fuel trucks...

>1) Are vehicles with CNG (compressed natural gas) and LPG (liquid propane
>gas) running the same fuel?

No, CNG is CH4, LPG is C3H8, They are 2 different fuels although they are
both alkanes (they are chemicaly related) CNG is a high pressure gas, LPG is
a low pressure liquid. Sorry this is just my chem classes coming out.

>2) For you guys with either of these. How many miles do you run between
>fill ups and .....how much does a fill up cost?

You get about hte same milage on LPG as gas, maybe 10% less or so. How far
you go depends on your milage and tank size. My tank is 100L and I can go
about 400 Km +- (It works out to about 10 MPG(US)) A fill up is about $40 Can.

>3) For anyone running one of these fuels. Do you have to pass emissions or
>are you relieved of this responsibility. That is, is alternative fuel the
>way to do whatever you want to the engine (for performace) without having to
>worry about emissions?

I don't need to run a cat and I have (almost) no emmission equipment left on
my truck. I would have to pass the emmission test if I were in the part of
the province that has them.

>4) Does anyone have difficulties with extreme cold weather and these fuels?

I've never tried starting the truck at less than about -10C. I have heard
that you might have problems with freezing your vaporizor if it gets below
-40. You would need to put a good set of engine heaters (block, rad,
battery, ect)

>Just some random thoughts I've had.

No problem, I've got some random answers

>Tom (in Pheonix)

Chris, one of the list's propane burners (in BC)

'84 F150
351W, NP 208, NP 435, 9.0 3.50 LS ...
294k km
on Propane


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From: soffiler centraltools.com
Subject: Re: Front Shock Travel
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:39:47 -0400

Gas pressurized shocks are usually shipped with straps to keep them from
fully extending, and once you release the straps they extend themselves
quite forcefully. I am assuming your Gabriels from AutoZone (yuck) are gas
shocks. If so, what you experienced is normal.

Steve Offiler
soffiler centraltools.com
'97 F250HD XL 4x4, 351, E40D, 4.10's

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of jrnoakes
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 10:14 AM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [80-96-list] Front Shock Travel
>
>
> Friends,
>
> I replaced the shocks on my '95 F150 2wd this past Saturday with some
> Gabriels from AutoZone. I had a bear of a time getting the
> front shocks
> compressed enough so that I could place the bottom bolt
> through the lower
> shock mount.
> My question is, how compressed should the front shock be upon
> installation?
> I know that the purpose of shocks is to keep the wheel
> firmly planted on
> the ground, but should there be some give in the static position?
>
> As always...I appreciate it!
>
> Justen Noakes
> Jrnoakes texas.net
> 1995 Ford F150, 2wd, 4.9 L
> 1999 VW Passat, 1.8 L
>
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From: soffiler centraltools.com
Subject: Re: Tranny questions..again
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:41:57 -0400

I'd be leery of torque capacity of the tranny off the 3.8 Mustang.

Steve Offiler
soffiler centraltools.com
'97 F250HD XL 4x4, 351, E40D, 4.10's



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> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 4:15 PM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [80-96-list] Tranny questions..again
>
>
> Sorry for the repeat question, but I can't find where I put the
> answer....if I have in fact asked this before ;-|
> Will a 5 speed from a V-6 Mustang, 3.8, fit an 86 4.9L? I have
> the 3.03 tranny right now which I really want to get rid of and
> a 5 speed has come along at a REALLY good price.
> Thanks,
> Chuck
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From: soffiler centraltools.com
Subject: Tailgate?
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:52:05 -0400

My in-law's have an '85 F250 4x4 that spends its days running to the beach
and the dump out on Nantucket. I've got it home on the mainland for a
couple of weeks to make a variety of repairs. One is the tailgate.
Original gate was destroyed when it was backed into a tree a few years ago.
It was replaced with Tiawanese sheetmetal, which is JUNK and has completely
fallen apart. Before I start shopping the salvage yards for Ford
sheetmetal, can anyone tell me what year-range gates will fit? What's the
going price for used gates? New?

Steve Offiler
soffiler centraltools.com
'97 F250HD XL 4x4, 351, E40D, 4.10's
(in-law's) '85 F250 4x4, 351, C6?, 3.55's


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From: "David Anderson (EUS)" am1.ericsson.se>
Subject: Re: Front Shock Travel
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:33:09 -0500

I also use the Gabriels on my 2wd F150. They offered two shocks, an SUV
model and a light truck model. I chose the SUV version looking more for a
smooth controlled ride and like them very well. I do not recall having much
trouble compressing them to get them on. I think the need to compress them
is due to the gas charge contained in them. This "spring" action will have
little effect on the position or ride of the truck.
Dave
.....I replaced the shocks on my '95 F150 2wd this past Saturday with some
Gabriels from AutoZone. I had a bear of a time getting the front shocks
compressed enough so that I could place the bottom bolt through the lower
shock mount. My question is, how compressed should the front shock be upon
installation?
I know that the purpose of shocks is to keep the wheel firmly planted on
the ground, but should there be some give in the static position?.....



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From: jrnoakes texas.net>
Subject: Re: Front Shock Travel
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:08:34 -0500

Steve,

AutoZone yuck or Gabriels yuck?

Yes they were strapped and yes they are gas. The reason I ask is that I
paid $17.99 per shock and have a lifetime (85 year) warranty. I normally
drive 10/15 miles total a day to and from work and do very little off
path/beach driving. I couldn't see paying $35 for Ranchos or something
more rugged.

-----Original Message-----
From: soffiler centraltools.com [SMTP:soffiler centraltools.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 6:40 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Front Shock Travel

Gas pressurized shocks are usually shipped with straps to keep them from
fully extending, and once you release the straps they extend themselves
quite forcefully. I am assuming your Gabriels from AutoZone (yuck) are gas
shocks. If so, what you experienced is normal.

Steve Offiler
soffiler centraltools.com
'97 F250HD XL 4x4, 351, E40D, 4.10's

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of jrnoakes
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 10:14 AM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [80-96-list] Front Shock Travel
>
>
> Friends,
>
> I replaced the shocks on my '95 F150 2wd this past Saturday with some
> Gabriels from AutoZone. I had a bear of a time getting the
> front shocks
> compressed enough so that I could place the bottom bolt
> through the lower
> shock mount.
> My question is, how compressed should the front shock be upon
> installation?
> I know that the purpose of shocks is to keep the wheel
> firmly planted on
> the ground, but should there be some give in the static position?
>
> As always...I appreciate it!
>
> Justen Noakes
> Jrnoakes texas.net
> 1995 Ford F150, 2wd, 4.9 L
> 1999 VW Passat, 1.8 L
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:05:57 -0700
From: Chuck Sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: Tranny questions..again

At 07:41 AM 6/20/00 -0400, you wrote:
>I'd be leery of torque capacity of the tranny off the 3.8 Mustang.


Good point, Steve...hadn't thought of that.
Thanks,
Chuck



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From: soffiler centraltools.com
Subject: Re: Front Shock Travel
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:21:31 -0400


> Steve,
>
> AutoZone yuck or Gabriels yuck?
>


AutoZone yuck. There's an AutoZone right on my commute home, which I used
to frequent based solely on convenience. I had a series of trouble with
parts purchased at this AutoZone, from alternators to CV joint boots and
more. I concluded that their low selling prices are an obvious result of
low cost aka low quality goods. I started going out of my way to visit a
NAPA and I am completely satisfied with them.

I don't have anything good, bad, nor indifferent to say about the Gabriel's,
except to wish you good luck with them.

Best regards,
Steve Offiler
soffiler centraltools.com
'97 F250HD XL 4x4, 351, E40D, 4.10's


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From: DJ250r aol.com
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:39:35 EDT
Subject: Re: Front Shock Travel

u can get rid of the coils and shocks all together you just have to spend
about $750.00 a side for king coil over shocks with reservoirs then you can
really go pound your truck off road lol

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From: Fred Moreno dualcurve.com>
Subject: Re: Alternative fuel trucks...
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:42:31 -0600


Tom H.(in Pheonix) asked a few fast questions:

1) Are vehicles with CNG (compressed natural gas) and LPG (liquid propane
gas) running the same fuel?

2) For you guys with either of these. How many miles do you run between
fill ups and .....how much does a fill up cost?

3) For anyone running one of these fuels. Do you have to pass emissions or
are you relieved of this responsibility. That is, is alternative fuel the
way to do whatever you want to the engine (for performace) without having to
worry about emissions?

4) Does anyone have difficulties with extreme cold weather and these fuels?

Phred (in El Paso/Las Cruces) replies:

1) Vehicles running around CNG diamond stickers are using natural gas that
is compressed. It's the same stuff plumbed into many houses. The vehicles
with the LPG stickers are using propane, the same stuff your BBQ uses, but
it is stored in the tank as a liquid.

2) I have about 650 mile range with a small 50 gallon manifold tank in the
bed of my truck. Because it is a maifold tank, you can't see it unless you
look into the bed, its designed so that one can mount a toolbox on top of
it. When we go on trips we fill with gasoline and propane, and the tiny
gasoline tank (16-17gallons?) takes us about 250 miles and then we switch to
propane and drive on for 650 miles.

The CNG crowd are usually fleet vehicles with a predetermined route because
CNG fueled vehicles have a very short range. A typical pickup truck with one
or two tanks will only get about 8 to 15 gasoline gallons equivalent of CNG.
This is not a recommended fuel for the daily driver that has long commutes,
runs errands, and occasionally goes out of town. Usually the utilities, post
office, and other delivery services use CNG because they always stay within
city limits and close to the fueling site.

3) I know for Texas if the vehicle still has the ability to run on
gasoline, it must be able to pass the standard emissions test. New Mexico
drivers (that's me) don't have to deal with any emissions test yet, although
this state has numerous other "alternative fueled" vehicles emitting that
blue smoke screen behind them.
In Arizona your state is very pro-alterative fuel since you get to by-pass
the majority of your huge registration dues. If you want more detail and
information about a conversion, there are a couple of guys I would highly
recommend - in other words, steer you away from the "professionally
challenged group".

4) The colder the weather the better the vehicle. You're dealing with a
gas, so atomization of the fuel is no longer a problem, propane boils at -40
F so that's not a problem very often where you and I live. CNG boils at
around - 260 F.

Hope this answers your questions, email me directly if necessary.

Phred, KD5AQB
1995 4X4, 5.0L, 5-speed, 181K miles

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From: "Dennis E. Yukl" valint.net>
Subject: Superchip
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:10:22 -0700


I just installed my superchip, the vehicle is an 89' F250 XLT lariat, supercab, longbox, 4WD, C6 tranny. The truck returns nothing but pass codes. Having a hard time really noting any improvement. Does anybody know what kind of improvements I should expect??


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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:17:05 EDT
Subject: Re: Superchip

Dennis,
If it is the "stock" style programming, then you will notice more top end and
shifting changes at WOT. You should also pick up a few miles per gallon. I
have been using their chips for about 2 years and with the mods I have done,
i couldn't run like I do without that chip. If you have any doubts, call them
and they will help you out.
Later,
Wayne Foy
NLOC #484
94 Flareside SC (Superchips powered)
#2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/index.html

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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:28:16 +1000
From: les williams cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: Alternative fuel trucks...

Hi Tom,

Quick questions call for quick answers, but this is such a deep subject
!! and I'm still learning things.

tom higgins wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I have a few fast questions.
>
> 1) Are vehicles with CNG (compressed natural gas) and LPG (liquid propane
> gas) running the same fuel?

No, LPG is a by product of the oil industry, in both the drilling for
and processing of.

> 2) For you guys with either of these. How many miles do you run between
> fill ups and .....how much does a fill up cost?

I'll put that question back to you. How much do you want to spend on LPG
tanks ?
My F100 fill up is 200 litres, or a about 900 k's. The price I pay is
about 45% of whatever the petrol price is. The fairlane has a 72 ltr
tank and does about 360-380 k's per fill.

> 3) For anyone running one of these fuels. Do you have to pass emissions or
> are you relieved of this responsibility. That is, is alternative fuel the
> way to do whatever you want to the engine (for performace) without having to
> worry about emissions?

Once again I can't speak for the mainland USA, but down here, yes
emissions are important and if you are going to do the big block
transplant even 502's into you 300/6, and you opt for Propane fuel, it
will save you a lot of Design Rule hassles. Generally the emissions are
less anyway. Add a turbocharger, and the 351 LPG, will produce less than
an idling petrol 351. - But don't take my word for it, talk to our
nephew Phred or Mr AK Miller. ;-))

( Wow !!, nephew Phred, being elevated to the same status as my hero, AK
Miller ?? - or have I just pulled him back to your status ?? 8-)) I'm
confused ....

> 4) Does anyone have difficulties with extreme cold weather and these fuels?

Some of the list subscribers from Canada would be better qualified thru
experience to comment here. Maybe Chris ? Anyway, the fuel can't thicken
like diesel fuel. But once again I don't have a problem, generally. I
have turned the regulator to a 'snowball' only once on a cold start, but
the coolant was a little short on antifreeze - hasn't happened since and
we're still going into my 3rd winter on Propane.

> Just some random thoughts I've had.
>
> Tom (in Pheonix)

Tom, unfortunately, that's not half of the story. Other bonuses in
running 100% propane, include increase in bottom end torque - right
where Our truck's need it, longer engine life, no washing down the
cylinder bore and rings with petrol on starts, no choke so no rich warm
up time, no carbon grit is produced so cleaner oil, no fuel pumps or
filters to fail or clog up.
REALLY being able to run on a 160F thermostat. The regulator and mixer
are so simple - very little to go wrong apart from normal maintenance.
If you choose to add LPG and make it a dual fuel install, then the above
bonuses no longer apply to the same extent.
This all assumes the installation is done by people that KNOW what their
doing - and that's easier said than done!!

Does LPG perform ? Well yesterday I was playing around with a Jaguar
series I, that had a Chebby 350 conversion, yes that's right, cylinders
1 & 4 were burning oil - badly, but it was still quite capable of
'baggin' up the tyres' in 1st and 2nd ..... and that was on an A300
impco mixer - even suprised me !!

regards

Les

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From: soffiler centraltools.com
Subject: Re: Superchip
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:24:04 -0400

A "few" MPG? Really!? Does that mean I could get my 13-mpg truck up to 16
or 17? I'm listening! What else needs to change? Air filter, exhaust,
engine internals? Premium fuel? My truck is totally stock at the moment.

Steve Offiler
soffiler centraltools.com
'97 F250HD XL 4x4, 351, E40D, 4.10's


> -----Original Message-----
> From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 12:17 PM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Superchip
>
>
> Dennis,
> If it is the "stock" style programming, then you will notice
> more top end and
> shifting changes at WOT. You should also pick up a few miles
> per gallon. I
> have been using their chips for about 2 years and with the
> mods I have done,
> i couldn't run like I do without that chip. If you have any
> doubts, call them
> and they will help you out.
> Later,
> Wayne Foy
> NLOC #484
> 94 Flareside SC (Superchips powered)
> #2 Top Truck
> Atlanta GA
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:05:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "tstaples wpi.edu" WPI.EDU>
Subject: Re: Superchip


hey,

what's the going price on one of these superchips??

are there different kinds??

i would do anything to get my truck better gas mileage..

does anyone know of a good place to get such a chip??



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On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 soffiler centraltools.com wrote:

> A "few" MPG? Really!? Does that mean I could get my 13-mpg truck up to 16
> or 17? I'm listening! What else needs to change? Air filter, exhaust,
> engine internals? Premium fuel? My truck is totally stock at the moment.
>
> Steve Offiler
> soffiler centraltools.com
> '97 F250HD XL 4x4, 351, E40D, 4.10's
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
> > [mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of FLR150 aol.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 12:17 PM
> > To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Superchip
> >
> >
> > Dennis,
> > If it is the "stock" style programming, then you will notice
> > more top end and
> > shifting changes at WOT. You should also pick up a few miles
> > per gallon. I
> > have been using their chips for about 2 years and with the
> > mods I have done,
> > i couldn't run like I do without that chip. If you have any
> > doubts, call them
> > and they will help you out.
> > Later,
> > Wayne Foy
> > NLOC #484
> > 94 Flareside SC (Superchips powered)
> > #2 Top Truck
> > Atlanta GA
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From: kb9odg.mark juno.com
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:42:46 -0500
Subject: Re: E4OD

Ok, I finally got to drive the E-350 box van at work and have a few
questions. The van is a '93 with a new diesel (~10,000 mi.) and it also
shifts really hard. My boss just had it in for that and it came back the
same way. I'm hoping this is something I can fix and save then more
money. So Hal, your not alone with this 'hard' battle.

- Mark Reimers KB9ODG
'66 Bronco 170 I-6, 3-speed, 3.5" suspension lift, 3" body lift, 35"
tires ...
with an '88 5.0L and AOD waiting to go in!
'87 F-150 XLT 4x2 300 I-6, 4-speed, straight pipe ...
'93 E-350, Box van, Diesel

> Hal,
> One question here is can you with the way it's working? It would
> drive me
> nuts. Heavy duty stuff or not, these things are designed to sense
> load and
> shift smoothly under all conditions, especially when freshly
> rebuilt. I
> would take it back immediately.
> Dave
>
> ....Just had the E4OD tranny rebuilt in my 91 F350, 196K and seals
> bad. Now
> it really slams from 1st to 2nd and a little less from 2nd to 3rd.
> Also it
> still acts goofy.....
>
>
________________________________________________________________





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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:55:44 EDT
Subject: Re: Superchip

In a message dated 6/20/00 1:07:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tstaples wpi.edu
writes:

<< hey,

What's the going price on one of these Superchips??

are there different kinds??

I would do anything to get my truck better gas mileage.

does anyone know of a good place to get such a chip??
>>

Well, it depends on the year of your vehicle. The Superchips are available
for any of the EECIV pcms and all of the EECV and OBD2 pcms. I believe Ford
went to the EECIV in 1991 or 2 on the stangs and 1992 or 3 on the trucks. The
speed density driven trucks pick up a LOT from the chips cause it allows them
to be modified more than the stock PCM would. Of course the massair driven
pcms accept a LOT of mods anyway, but it just makes it easier to do more mods
with a programmable chip to adjust the parameters to accept the mods and have
them work in harmony. The best place to purchase them would be from
Superchips. They can be reached at Welcom
e to Superchips
.
Later,
Wayne Foy
NLOC #484
94 Flareside SC
#2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/index.html

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From: "big red" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tailgate?
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:29:27 PDT

can anyone tell me what year-range gates will fit? What's the
>going price for used gates? New?

As far as the year range that would be 80 to 86. Those model years have the
same body style. As far as price goes I can't really help though. I bought a
used one for my 87 for $75, but that was from a buddy of mine. I didn't have
to shop around to find the best deal.

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From: "big red" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tranny questions..again
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:34:51 PDT


>At 07:41 AM 6/20/00 -0400, you wrote:
>>I'd be leery of torque capacity of the tranny off the 3.8 Mustang.
>
>
>Good point, Steve...hadn't thought of that.
>Thanks,
>Chuck

Isn't the tranny behind the 94 and up model year mustang the same behind the....


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