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80-96-list Digest Sat, 10 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 111

In This Issue:
Fwd: Re: JBA Headers
Re: Fwd: Re: JBA Headers
Re: Fwd: Re: JBA Headers
Re: Fwd: Re: JBA Headers
warm running 300
Re: 351W needs help
Re: JBA Headers
Stumble, Lack of fuel?
Re: Stumble, Lack of fuel?
Re: warm running 300
Weird Intermittent Shake
Re: 351W needs help
One will One won't

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From: Lingus0169 aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:40:25 EDT
Subject: Fwd: Re: JBA Headers


In a message dated 6/10/00 11:35:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Lwskywalk aol.com writes:

<< i went with long tube hookers. i noticed a big difference the more mods i
did to my motor. if i would have known how much trouble they are when
changing motors and gaskets i would have gone with the shorties.

luke
94 f150 351
96 f350 7.3 turbo >>

so what you are saying is it better and easier to go with the shorty headers
than the full lenght headerS?
nick


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i went with long tube hookers. i noticed a big difference the more mods i
did to my motor. if i would have known how much trouble they are when
changing motors and gaskets i would have gone with the shorties.

luke
94 f150 351
96 f350 7.3 turbo
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From: Lwskywalkaol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:44:16 EDT
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: JBA Headers

in my opinion yes you will catch hell putting long tubes on and maintaining
them. i have had to paint my once already and have only had them on for a
year. i am goin with shorties and a off road y pipe instead of true dual even
though performance is better with long tubes"just hard to maintain" is my
point

luke

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From: Lingus0169aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:46:25 EDT
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: JBA Headers

ok thankx..that seals the deal with me.i was debating on long or short
headers. i made some custom down pipes for my true dual exhuast, so i will
just make it easy and put shirties on instead..thankx for your input
nick

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From: Lwskywalkaol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:48:28 EDT
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: JBA Headers

yeah man sure thing

luke

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From: DTrowbridgewebtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 19:56:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: warm running 300

hey listers, i just now got my A/C working again, and right afterwards
my truck almost overheated driving down the highway. i then went and
changed out the fan clutch and added a secondary electric fan that turns
on with the A/C. well, now cruising along the truck runs nice and cool,
but once i get into bumper to bumper trafficthe temp starts to raise up
to the MA in normal or past. as soon as i turn the A/C off, the temp
starts to come downback to the O where it normally stays. is this
normal for the temp to start creeping up in traffic with the A/C on?
and btw, the secondary fan is turning in the right direction, and
radiator is new, water pump is new, and the stat is a 160. thanx...

David
85 F-150 300 I6 C-4 3 speed auto


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From: BanksRVAaol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 21:07:26 EDT
Subject: Re: 351W needs help

I have a problem with my 82 E350 van (351W C-6). It runs perfect under 45 mph
but if I go over that it starts stalling out. If I let it sit for 5 minutes
idling, and then get back on the highway, it will run fine for 5 minutes (at
65 mph) and then start stalling out again. It will run fine all day long as
long as I keep it under 45 mph.
Does anyone have any idea what this could be?
Please help,
Joe

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From: "Dave Harmier" pdq.net>
Subject: Re: JBA Headers
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 20:36:32 -0500

>From: Bzysignlaol.com
>Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:33:22 EDT
>Subject: JBA Headers

>Hello all,
>I am debating whether or not to install the JBA Headers on my 95 F250
5.8L. Anyone out there had any >experience regarding pros and cons with
this change? I think I have a exh manifold leak, which is partly >driving
this change.
>Thanks- Sluggo.


"I think I have a exh manifold leak" , ha ha ha... this cracks me up!
Both manifolds on my '92 broke apart upon removal, since replaced with
flowtech shorties.
Dads '91 has at least one side showing crack. If you don't have a leak, you
are one lucky SOB!!!
I have heard decent things about JBA, but have no first hand knowledge. My
Flowtechs came with a dinged flange mount, which we did not discover til we
started it... high temp silicone is shutting it up for now.

YMMV!

Dave H.
Houston
90 F-350 Crew LWB 7.3/E4OD (The BEAST)
91 F-150 SC LWB 5.8/E4OD (Dads)
92 F-150 SC SWB 5.0/E4OD (Sisters)
90 Toyota Corolla (Sisters for sale)
86 Yamaha FJ 1200 (Attitude Adjuster!)


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From: "Chris Mahaffey" hotmail.com>
Subject: Stumble, Lack of fuel?
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 19:06:10 PDT

Hi everyone! I've been off the list for a while due to a job change, but
I'm back on the internet and just in time for the problems with my truck.
The truck is a 1992 F150 with the 4.9L and 4 sp manual.

During the last couple months the truck has had a hesitation or stumble at
highway speeds (65-70) when trying to accelerate up hill. I figured the
first place to start was the fuel filter, which had about 10,000 miles on
it. I had purchased a new one but didn't have time to install it when the
truck quit completely. I was driving on the interstate and started up a
hill (after about 30 mi of driving) and it began to stumble and it didn't
have any power. I switched tanks and it didn't make a difference. It went
about a mile like this and I was able to get off at an exit. Once I slowed
down on the exit ramp it stalled so I pulled over to the side. I tried
starting it switching tanks between tries and it would start but idle very
rough the stall. After it sat about 20 minutes it started and ran fine the
rest of the way home (20 mi.) I checked the codes and had a dynamic code of
522, neutral switch circuit open. It had two stored codes of 172 (oxygen
sensor detected lean condition) and 327 (EGR position sensor voltage too
low)

I changed the fuel filter the next morning and "hoped for the best." It
seemed to be running fine so I thought I had the problem licked. Well, I
was wrong. We hooked up to our boat and headed to the lake. We made it up
the biggest hill we had and it seemed to lack a little power but it didn't
stumble at all. Then we came to a smaller grade and it started acting up, I
tried switching tanks again and it didn't make a difference. We pulled into
a parking lot and after idling rough for about 30 sec. it stalled. I tried
to restart it but it wouldn't run.

After sitting for about an hour it started and ran fine, but only on one
tank (the front one). We went to a gas station and filled the tank (it was
about 1/4 full) and bought some dry gas. We were able to make it home.
Once we were home I decided to experiment a little and would switch to the
rear tank and it would stall, almost immediately after switching to it. I
could hear the pump running so I know it has power to it (of course that
doesn't mean it's pumping at full capacity.) I could switch back to the
front tank and it would start and run fine. I tried this a couple times and
had the same results. Finally I decided to let it sit. After about 3 hours
I went back to it and it would start and run on either tank.

Have any of you experienced similar problems or do you have any suggestions
for what I can check?

Thanks!
Chris
________________________________________________________________________


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From: Scrangler83aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 22:32:55 EDT
Subject: Re: Stumble, Lack of fuel?

I can't say that i know if your truck has one of these. But yours sounds like
mine does exactly when my in the tank filter got a filled up. The best i
could figure, after running for a while more stuff gets all stuck on there,
let it sit and some if it falls off letting you drive for a little while but
then eventually not again. I ended up dropping the tank, puttin in a new
filter and pump as well as testing the line for leaks all at once (air
compressor at about 10-15 psi did the trick) found no leaks, got a pump that
i knew would be good, and the problem was solved, if you have an in the tank
filter i would think about that maybe causing you problem
Tom

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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 19:51:07 -0700
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: warm running 300

At 07:56 PM 6/10/00 -0500, you wrote:

>radiator is new, water pump is new, and the stat is a 160. thanx...

Seems like you should increase stat to 190...which I think is factory
spec for that truck/year/motor.
Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
86 F150 300 cu in six banger
FAX 1-310-822-6815


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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 23:38:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher Tirone yahoo.com>
Subject: Weird Intermittent Shake

Hello to all,

I've got a 1986 F150 with 94,000 orginal miles. It's got an 302EFI and
AOD in it. Lately, I will be going down the highway and all of a
sudden, the engine starts to lose power and the whole truck just shakes
really badly. What's odd about it is that the first time it happened,
it lasted about twenty seconds and then disappeared completely for over
1000 miles. Since then it has come back three times, again for a short
period of time, then gone again for hundreds of miles. The truck gets a
steady diet of premium and regular doses of Techron. Could the computer
be burping or is an injector or two on the way out? Any advice would be
greatly appreciated.

Greenman

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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:00:05 -0400
From: S Spaulding worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 351W needs help

Start with the fuel filter on the carburetor, then the fuel pump. Check
the fuel lines to make sure one isn't sucking a little air.

Steve

BanksRVAaol.com wrote:
>
> I have a problem with my 82 E350 van (351W C-6). It runs perfect under 45 mph
> but if I go over that it starts stalling out. If I let it sit for 5 minutes
> idling, and then get back on the highway, it will run fine for 5 minutes (at
> 65 mph) and then start stalling out again. It will run fine all day long as
> long as I keep it under 45 mph.
> Does anyone have any idea what this could be?
> Please help,
> Joe
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:37:32 -0500
From: Larry Schmiedekamp angelo.edu>
Subject: One will One won't

After sitting for about an hour it started and ran fine, but only on one
tank (the front one). We went to a gas station and filled the tank (it was
about 1/4 full) and bought some dry gas. We were able to make it home.
Once we were home I decided to experiment a little and would switch to the
rear tank and it would stall, almost immediately after switching to it. I
could hear the pump running so I know it has power to it (of course that
doesn't mean it's pumping at full capacity.) I could switch back to the
front tank and it would start and run fine. I tried this a couple times and
had the same results. Finally I decided to let it sit. After about 3 hours
I went back to it and it would start and run on either tank.

Have any of you experienced similar problems or do you have any suggestions
for what I can check?


Chris

Just for grins, run this test again and remove the gas cap from the problem
tank. Might be a vacumn or venting problem.




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