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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 80-96-list); Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:03:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 80-96-list digest users Reply-to: 80-96-list Subject: 80-96-list Digest V2000 #107 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 80-96 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 80-96-list Digest Tue, 06 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 107 In This Issue: Re: Seat Belt Question Re: Can a O2 Sensors make the exhaust stink? 1990 F250 problem, HELP!! Re: 1990 F250 xlt speaker sizes Re: 1990 F250 problem, HELP!! Grinding front brakes Mystery transmission part Re: Grinding front brakes Re: Mystery transmission part Re: Mystery transmission part Re: Mystery transmission part Re: Antifreeze Re: 1990 F250 problem, HELP!! blower quits speedometer out Re: Air conditioning Re: Brake Question Re: Brake Question Re: 1990 F250 xlt speaker sizes Re: blower quits Re: Brake Question adj timing control with duraspark box a/c conversion Cleaning a pumpkin Re: a/c conversion Re: adj timing control with duraspark box New page layout Re: Cleaning a pumpkin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: soffiler Subject: Re: Seat Belt Question Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:07:07 -0400 Those upper belt mounts are built hell-for-stout to pass crash test standards. Seems to me you'd be asking for trouble if you tried to move it. How about some sort of clip to hold the belt to itself a couple inches below the actual mount? Steve Offiler soffiler '97 F250HD XL 4x4, 351, E40D, 4.10's > -----Original Message----- > From: 80-96-list-bounce > [mailto:80-96-list-bounce > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 9:39 PM > To: 80-96-list > Subject: [80-96-list] Seat Belt Question > > > Now that my sister drives the '92, she complains of, and > shows a red place > on her neck where the seatbelt rubs. Have any of ya'll ever > moved the upper > pivot point for the belt down a couple inches? And how? > I'm thinking weld a new nut on (with plenty of protection!!!) > or maybe a > clip nut. I know it'll never look right, but what else is there to do? > > Almost all new stuff come with adjustable uppers, why didn't > they think of > that sooner? > > Dave H. > Houston > 90 F-350 Crew LWB 7.3/E4OD Knapheide Service Body and > liftgate (The BEAST) > 91 F-150 SC LWB 5.8/E4OD Crossbed toolbox and liftgate (Dads) > 92 F-150 SC SWB 5.0/E4OD Crossbed toolbox (Sisters) > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the > message. > ------------------------------ From: soffiler Subject: Re: Can a O2 Sensors make the exhaust stink? Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:18:39 -0400 > I thought I had a bad converter because of the bad smell, the > man at the muffler shop said because of the back sute(black > smoke) he thought my O2 sensor may be bad, can an O2 sensor > make the black smoke(running rich or lean) and the stink to? Yes, an bad O2 sensor can cause rich running. Yes, running rich can cause both soot/black smoke and odor. Steve Offiler soffiler '97 F250HD XL 4x4, 351, E40D, 4.10's ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:59:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "tstaples Subject: 1990 F250 problem, HELP!! hello all, i have a strange problem with my 1990 F250 xlt that i was wondering if any of you could shed some light on.. just the other day i noticed a strange whirring noise coming from what seems to be about midway back on the truck.. about the transmission back to the rear axle area. The noise kind of sounds like really nubby tires sound on pavement.. but i dont have nubby tires so that couldn't be it. After investigation.. i have found a few things the sound can only be heard when i am not accelerating and the gass pedal is not pushed down. It's only when i'm coasting Also, if i put the truck in neutral (it's a stickshift) the sound goes away which leads me to believe it's something to do with the tranny. Also, the truck shakes a real lot at about 70 - 75 mph as if it is out of alignment, i'm not sure if that has anything to do with this specific problem but i figured i'd mention it. if anyone at all could help me in anyway in figuring out what is going on i would greatly appreciate it. I am at work now (an hour away from home) and i am scared to drive the thing home in fear that i might damage some vital piece of my truck thanks a ton -Todd Staples 1990 F250 xlt ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Dave Harmier wrote: > Now that my sister drives the '92, she complains of, and shows a red place > on her neck where the seatbelt rubs. Have any of ya'll ever moved the upper > pivot point for the belt down a couple inches? And how? > I'm thinking weld a new nut on (with plenty of protection!!!) or maybe a > clip nut. I know it'll never look right, but what else is there to do? > > Almost all new stuff come with adjustable uppers, why didn't they think of > that sooner? > > Dave H. > Houston > 90 F-350 Crew LWB 7.3/E4OD Knapheide Service Body and liftgate (The BEAST) > 91 F-150 SC LWB 5.8/E4OD Crossbed toolbox and liftgate (Dads) > 92 F-150 SC SWB 5.0/E4OD Crossbed toolbox (Sisters) > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the > message. > > ------------------------------ From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr." Subject: Re: 1990 F250 xlt speaker sizes Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:25:00 -0400 Todd, My '95 150 has 6.5's in the doors and 5x7's in the rear. With the doors, remember that not all 6.5's are equal. I replaced the stock ones with some Pioneers that I promptly blew out (my own fault), and then decided on some really nice Cadence drivers. I swear by Cadence speakers, but the casings were too beefy to fit in the holes. A little bit of time expanding the holes with a small hammer rectified the situation. The Pioneers had fit perfectly. -Mike >could anyone tell me what size the speakers are in this vehicle.. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 07:18:05 -0700 From: Chuck Sanborn Subject: Re: 1990 F250 problem, HELP!! At 09:59 AM 6/6/00 -0400, you wrote: >Also, if i put the truck in neutral (it's a stickshift) the sound goes >away which leads me to believe it's something to do with the tranny. > >Also, the truck shakes a real lot at about 70 - 75 mph as if it is out of >alignment, i'm not sure if that has anything to do with this specific >problem but i figured i'd mention it. Start with the cheap things first...check your U-joints, both front and rear. They could be dry or the needle bearings could be shot. Chuck Chuck Sanborn Torrance, CA 1986 F150 six banger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 10:20:04 -0600 From: Charles Biggs Subject: Grinding front brakes I changed the front brake pads in my 1990 F150 and since then I hear a grinding sound when braking. I have checked the pads, rotors and retainer pins and everything seems in order. Could it just be the brand of pad that I used? If anyone It only seems to occur at very slow stopping speeds. If anyone has had this problem I would appreciate your suggestions. TIA Chuck Pasadena, TX ------------------------------ From: bennettr Subject: Mystery transmission part Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:37:22 -0500 In the process of changing my transmission fluid and filter on my 95 f150 with a 4R70W transmission, I dropped the transmission pan found a loose part in the pan. What is it and where does it go? The transmission seams to be OK and I can't see where this part might have came from. The link is to a picture of the part. Thanks Rex http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=21883&a=6673443 ------------------------------ From: soffiler Subject: Re: Grinding front brakes Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:35:52 -0400 Chuck, did you have the rotors re-surfaced? Steve Offiler soffiler '97 F250HD XL 4x4, 351, E40D, 4.10's > -----Original Message----- > From: 80-96-list-bounce > [mailto:80-96-list-bounce > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 12:20 PM > To: 80-96-list > Subject: [80-96-list] Grinding front brakes > > > I changed the front brake pads in my 1990 F150 and since then I hear a > grinding sound when braking. I have checked the pads, rotors and > retainer pins and everything seems in order. Could it just > be the brand > of pad that I used? If anyone It only seems to occur at very slow > stopping speeds. If anyone has had this problem I would > appreciate your > suggestions. TIA > > Chuck > Pasadena, TX > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the > message. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 11:53:31 -0400 From: flagship Subject: Re: Mystery transmission part Rex, I believe that part is a shipping plug. It is pushed in the transmission as part of the original prep and removed on the first trans service. I've never seen one so tha picture didn't help but if it's the size of the dipstick tube I think that's a good guess. bennettr > > In the process of changing my transmission fluid and filter on my 95 f150 > with a 4R70W transmission, I dropped the transmission pan found a loose part > in the pan. What is it and where does it go? The transmission seams to be > OK and I can't see where this part might have came from. The link is to a > picture of the part. > > Thanks > Rex > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=21883&a=6673443 > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ From: "Oscar Johnson" Subject: Re: Mystery transmission part Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:43:34 -0500 Rex, I had a Ford Pinto once that was giving me a problem with the transmission. After taking off the pan, I found something that looked exactly like your part. A mechanic told me that it was a plug installed at the factory either during assembly or transmission manufacture that fits into the bottom of the filler tube. When the transmission is filled the first time, the plug is pushed out and then lives in the pan until it is removed the first time. Your part looks a lot like that plug, but you should probably ask someone who knows for sure. Regards, O.T. Johnson -----Original Message----- From: bennettr To: 80-96-list Date: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 10:40 AM Subject: [80-96-list] Mystery transmission part >In the process of changing my transmission fluid and filter on my 95 f150 >with a 4R70W transmission, I dropped the transmission pan found a loose part >in the pan. What is it and where does it go? The transmission seams to be >OK and I can't see where this part might have came from. The link is to a >picture of the part. > >Thanks >Rex > > >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=21883&a=6673443 > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ From: FLR150 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:20:15 EDT Subject: Re: Mystery transmission part In a message dated 6/6/00 11:39:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bennettr << In the process of changing my transmission fluid and filter on my 95 f150 with a 4R70W transmission, I dropped the transmission pan found a loose part in the pan. What is it and where does it go? The transmission seams to be OK and I can't see where this part might have came from. The link is to a picture of the part. Thanks Rex >> Rex, That is the knock out plug that the factory guys push out and it just drops in the pan. That just shows you that no one has been into the trans. Later, Wayne Foy NLOC #484 94 Flareside SC 1999 Fun Ford Weekend Racing series #2 Top Truck Atlanta GA ------------------------------ From: "Moe Gendron" Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:27:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Antifreeze >Right, Wayne. I learned some time ago that the new "reduced toxicity" antifreezes are just that - reduced, but STILL quite poisonous to animals. Your experience points this out...so why the heck they bothered to create it, I don't know! I do, Money, from people who can't think for themselves, suckers who want to claim they "care more than the next guy". The same thing with R-12. Money, "If" R-12 destroys the "ozone" they've found that R-134A is just as bad. >IMO, the advertising on this stuff has been deceptive and dangerous. I think it has encouraged people to be less careful about using and disposing of it. You are right on the money. You don't see any lawyers jumpin on this one. "Deceptive and dangerous" is right, if you're paying the correct people (media), you can tell all sorts of lies. They do it every day, all day, and alot on the 6:00 news. Figures don't lie, liars figure. See Ya'll, Moe Houston "Yes, the NRA cares about kids, but only white republican kids." Rosie O'Donut ------------------------------ From: PSales264 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 17:01:46 EDT Subject: Re: 1990 F250 problem, HELP!! Check the hanger bearing. The place where the drive shaft is supported between the trans and the axle. the bearing in side the hanger is not grease able and may have dried out. PHIL ------------------------------ From: "Greg and Tanya" Subject: blower quits Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:26:57 -0600 In the city it operates normally. When on the highway, above 60MPH, the blower quits. I hear the fan still working, but nothing is coming out of the vents. This goes for air conditioning and vent settings. My guess is the fan is shot as during cold operations(in the morning) the fan howls at low settings. Is my guess right or is there some other "sensor" that would cause this? thanks in advance, Greg Calgary, Alberta...Canada 1989 F150 302 EFI Auto ------------------------------ From: "Greg and Tanya" Subject: speedometer out Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:29:14 -0600 Another quick question. My speedo is out about 8-10 kph. Have the right size tires and rims. Is there an adjustment I can make? Greg Calgary, Alberta...Canada 1989 F150 302 EFI Auto ------------------------------ From: "Joel Thomas" Subject: Re: Air conditioning Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:10:39 -0500 The fan clutch has never been replaced.I have never heard any roar or anything noticeable.there isnt a load of bugs. the lower part of the fan shroud I had to cut off because of my body lift. but it has never heated up like this before. I am going to replace the radiator cap. and the recovery tank is in good condition and after this happened i put it to half full because it has always been dry. so that probably means it is the fan clutch right?? thanks, Joel Thomas ----- Original Message ----- From: Stuart Falkner To: Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:53 PM Subject: cool air > Hello, If your fan clutch has never been replaced it probably is over due. > When it got that hot the clutch should have kicked in with a noticeable > increase in fan roar. Examine the clutch for signs of oil leakage. If the > oil gets out it is dead. If you have a load of bugs in the fins clean them > out even if you have to remove the radiator to do it. The fan shroud must be > in place. Drain the coolant down and look inside the rad. with a flashlight > for signs of foreign material wedged in the ends of the tubes. Make sure the > radiator cap and coolant recovery tank are in good condition. Hope this > helps--------Stuart Falkner-----87 F150, 53 F100 > ------------------------------ From: FULSZBRONC Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:17:15 EDT Subject: Re: Brake Question dharmier << The brakes on the beast are "two pump" brakes. Oh they'll stop okay on one hit, but a second hit gets a WAY better pedal. Seems to me my rears need adjusted.... sound right? Dave H. >> Dave, Sounds like you've got it! Adjust those rear brakes! If the brake linings are still good, then your self-adjusters must not be working. Next brake service, be sure to get a hardware kit and replace the springs and self adjusters. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 20:28:54 -0400 From: flagship Subject: Re: Brake Question I've always found a system requiring two pumps means it has air in it. Have you bled the system? FULSZBRONC > > dharmier > > << The brakes on the beast are "two pump" brakes. Oh they'll stop okay on one > hit, but a second hit gets a WAY better pedal. Seems to me my rears need > adjusted.... sound right? > Dave H. >> > > Dave, > Sounds like you've got it! Adjust those rear brakes! If the brake linings > are still good, then your self-adjusters must not be working. Next brake > service, be sure to get a hardware kit and replace the springs and self > adjusters. > Alex > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ From: "big red" Subject: Re: 1990 F250 xlt speaker sizes Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:27:57 PDT Either 5 1/4 or 6 1/2 will fit in the door. I used 5 1/4 when i replaced mine and they fit nicely. No cutting of the door panel. Of course I used them because they are a slight bit cheaper and I didn't have the little extra to cover the bigger one's. Anywho either will work. ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: FULSZBRONC Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:30:51 EDT Subject: Re: blower quits << In the city it operates normally. When on the highway, above 60MPH, the blower quits. I hear the fan still working, but nothing is coming out of the vents. This goes for air conditioning and vent settings. My guess is the fan is shot as during cold operations(in the morning) the fan howls at low settings. Is my guess right or is there some other "sensor" that would cause this? >> It's not likely the fan (in my opinion), but a blend door or actuator motor not working properly. If you have the air coming out of the defroster ducts when this happens, then it's a vacuum problem. Time to climb under the dash and have a look around. (no fun!) ------------------------------ From: FULSZBRONC Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:37:01 EDT Subject: Re: Brake Question In a message dated 06/06/2000 06:28:22 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Flagship << I've always found a system requiring two pumps means it has air in it. Have you bled the system? >> Air in the system has a completely different feel... even on the "first stab" braking is poor... and on the second pump it is only a little better. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 20:34:45 -0400 From: James Oxley Subject: adj timing control with duraspark box Hey all I just picked up the 3 plug duraspark box off an 81 van. From what I remember, you need a 10K pot to make the timing adjustable. Only problem is the 3rd plug has 3 wires, black (with white stripe), yellow and brown. Anyone know which one does not get used? OX ------------------------------ From: "Phil & Debi" Subject: a/c conversion Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:01:24 -0400 I have a 91 F150 without a/c and was wondering if anyone knows what would be involved to install a/c. does the dash need changed? the firewall need modified? will I have to get the wire harness and computer off doner truck? any help would be appreciated. Phil Beattie 66 F100 70 F100 91 F150 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 19:11:37 -0700 From: chuck sanborn Subject: Cleaning a pumpkin A buddy of mine just gave me a pumpkin with 3.55's. It had been rebuilt and run in his 48 truck for a couple of weeks. It has been sitting in his garage now for about a year. Very dirty and still a small amount of gear oil in it. My question is what is the best thing to clean it with. Should I just pour mineral spirits into it and rotate the gears a whole bunch of times... take it to the local self serve car was and spray it with that grease cleaner? Ideas from them that knows these things? Thanks, Chuck Chuck Sanborn FCA# 07175 Torrance, CA 1964 Falcon Sprint FAX 1-310-822-6815 ------------------------------ From: "Rosemary O'Brien" Subject: Re: a/c conversion Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 21:29:41 -0000 I would also like to know what is involved in adding aftermarket a/c to my 92 E 150. I really love this van, but I'm tired of cooking every summer! -----Original Message----- From: Phil & Debi To: 80-96-list Date: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 2:03 AM Subject: [80-96-list] a/c conversion >I have a 91 F150 without a/c and was wondering if anyone knows what would be >involved to install a/c. does the dash need changed? the firewall need >modified? will I have to get the wire harness and computer off doner truck? >any help would be appreciated. > >Phil Beattie >66 F100 >70 F100 >91 F150 4x4 > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ From: FULSZBRONC Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 23:07:28 EDT Subject: Re: adj timing control with duraspark box luxjo << I just picked up the 3 plug duraspark box off an 81 van. From what I remember, you need a 10K pot to make the timing adjustable. Only problem is the 3rd plug has 3 wires, black (with white stripe), yellow and brown. Anyone know which one does not get used? OX >> Wire the 10K pot between the yellow wire and black/white stripe wire. On my '84 & '85 there is no brown wire. Alex ------------------------------ From: FLR150 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 00:50:01 EDT Subject: New page layout Gang, Check out my new page layout at Wayne's Flareside and Ford pages Sign my guest book and tell me what you think. For the AFTE guys, How does something like this look for a new AFTE website? Later, Wayne Foy NLOC #484 94 Flareside SC 1999 Fun Ford Weekend Racing series #2 Top Truck Atlanta GA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:04:12 -0500 From: Steve Randa Subject: Re: Cleaning a pumpkin I've seen in the rags where they use brake cleaner. Steve Randa chuck sanborn wrote: > > A buddy of mine just gave me a pumpkin with > 3.55's. It had been rebuilt and run in his 48 > truck for a couple of weeks. It has been sitting > in his garage now for about a year. Very dirty > and still a small amount of gear oil in it. My > question is what is the best thing to clean it > with. Should I just pour mineral spirits into it > and rotate the gears a whole bunch of times... > take it to the local self serve car was and spray > it with that grease cleaner? Ideas from them > that knows these things? > Thanks, > Chuck > Chuck Sanborn FCA# 07175 > Torrance, CA > 1964 Falcon Sprint > FAX 1-310-822-6815 > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ End of 80-96-list Digest V2000 #107 *********************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 80-96 Truck Mailing List Send posts to 80-96-list If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com ---------------------------------------------------------- |