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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 80-96-list); Sun, 04 Jun 2000 02:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 02:53:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 80-96-list digest users Reply-to: 80-96-list Subject: 80-96-list Digest V2000 #104 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 80-96 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 80-96-list Digest Sat, 03 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 104 In This Issue: Full Time where's all the posts? EXCESSIVE CRANKING ON A COLD START Re: where's all the posts? changing fuel tank Re: where's all the posts? Re: Popping Sound-another one Re: changing fuel tank ADMIN: Web site updates Re: changing fuel tank Re: Stone Shields Re: EXCESSIVE CRANKING ON A COLD START Re: Popping Sound-another one In my truck (not my ford.. injectors - 2051's Anti-freeze question Re: Anti-freeze question Re: Stone Shields ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 23:34:17 -0700 From: Marv & Marge Subject: Full Time The Listfather wrote: > Just took FTE full time as of 2 days ago My wish for you: That which you do so well and love so much should be a source of great joy and prosperity for you and yours. You've got a couple of thousand guys behind you, all pushing for your success. If there's anything we all can do, just ask! (There's POWER in numbers, just ask the Deekster!) Best wishes in the new endeavor! -Marv- ------------------------------ From: CRGREENE1 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 03:11:13 EDT Subject: where's all the posts? Hey guys, is it me or has the mailing list gone down significantly!? I sure don't get as many e-mails as I used to! What happened!? C.Greene ------------------------------ From: "Larry" Subject: EXCESSIVE CRANKING ON A COLD START Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:18:16 -1000 Hi, new kid on the block here My 89 F-150, 302 cu.in. EFI, A/T, P/S, LWB with 28,000 miles on her has started to crank "excessively" on a cold start. Better on a warm start. It used to snap to attention as soon as you turned the key. This what I've done to date with no luck. Replaced fuel filter New set of plugs New distributor cap New rotor New ignition leads Ran a can of B & G 44k injector cleaner through the front tank (19.0 gals.) Now running a second can of B & G 44k through the rear tank and am about half way through the 18.2 gals. in that tank. I've run out of ideas and I'm not well versed on smog controls or the fuel injection. Any help would be appreciated. Larry ------------------------------ From: "Harris, Scott" Subject: Re: where's all the posts? Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 02:51:30 -0500 I concur....it does seem that recently I have been noticing a lot less emails from the group. Maybe everyone's trucks are running better! -----Original Message----- From: CRGREENE1 Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 2:11 AM To: 80-96-list Subject: [80-96-list] where's all the posts? Hey guys, is it me or has the mailing list gone down significantly!? I sure don't get as many e-mails as I used to! What happened!? C.Greene ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message.. ------------------------------ From: Srjones219 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 06:02:27 EDT Subject: changing fuel tank I have to change the front fuel tank on my 92 F150 swb 4x2. Does anyone have any tips to make the job easier? Also are there any suprises that I should be aware of before I even start to take it out? Steve Jones "If it's not broke don't fix it!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 08:47:57 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: where's all the posts? At 03:11 AM 6/3/00 , you wrote: >Hey guys, is it me or has the mailing list gone down significantly!? I sure >don't get as many e-mails as I used to! >What happened!? > >C.Greene Schools across the country are closing for the summer and everyone's taking vacations. It'll pick back up in a month or so and keep a good pace until fall, then slow down until Christmas, then a week or so after Christmas it slows again until Spring. Its been a pretty consistent cycle for 4 years. Ken Payne FTE List Kahuna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 07:21:24 -0700 From: Ken Justice Subject: Re: Popping Sound-another one Hello Tom, It sounds to me like "pinging." My '86 ford did that clicking or pinging under the same circumstances all the time, especially when the weather was hotter. Regards, Ken Justice Discover the Working Mat! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.workingmat.com >Re: Popping Sound-another one >In my truck (not my ford..Dodge 1/2ton 1985 2wd) When i get >under a little >acceration such as cruising at 60 or going up a hill at any speed >there seems >to be almost an electrical clicking sound from around or near the >engine.. >Thanks in advance >Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 10:19:24 -0500 From: Jim Cannon Subject: Re: changing fuel tank Steve- I have not done this replacement myself, but several people have suggested on this list over the years that it is easier to work on the fuel tanks if you remove the bed first, and then you are not doing everything on your back. At 06:02 03-06-00 -0400, Steve wrote: >I have to change the front fuel tank on my 92 F150 swb 4x2. Does anyone have >any tips to make the job easier? Also are there any suprises that I should >be aware of before I even start to take it out? Jim Cannon Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech '29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!" '80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 12:16:54 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: Web site updates Ford Truck Enthusiasts web site updates: http://www.ford-trucks.com June 3: Pictorial additions: 1932 Ford truck, 1969 F100, 1970 F250, 1977 F250 Ranger, 1980 F100 Custom, 1984 F150, 1996 Explorer Eddie Bauer 4x4 May 31: NEW! 1932-1972 Ford Factory Service (Shop) Manuals on CD-ROM! Ford Truck Enthusiasts is pleased to offer these Ford Motor Company licensed products. May 29: Pictorial additions: 1969 F100, 1977 F250 4x4 Highboy May 28: Part one in a series of articles detailing the 22nd Annual F100 Supernationals. New Web store products: -Several new engine/performance books added. -Stainless steel polished and unpolished engine, transmission and body fastener kits Later, Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 13:02:35 -0400 From: S Spaulding Subject: Re: changing fuel tank The front tank is an easy job from below. It isn't worth pulling the bed. Steve S. Jim Cannon wrote: > > Steve- > I have not done this replacement myself, but several people have suggested > on this list over the years that it is easier to work on the fuel tanks if > you remove the bed first, and then you are not doing everything on your back. > > At 06:02 03-06-00 -0400, Steve wrote: > >I have to change the front fuel tank on my 92 F150 swb 4x2. Does anyone have > >any tips to make the job easier? Also are there any suprises that I should > >be aware of before I even start to take it out? > > Jim Cannon > Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech > '29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!" > '80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8 > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ From: Awfanning Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:03:27 EDT Subject: Re: Stone Shields John Bowman wrote: << I have an '83 F100 and the stone shield that protects the front brakes on the left front wheel is rattling. The question is do I need it and if so, how do I replace it? Is the part expensive?>> This topic was discussed on the Taurus SHO list (SHOtimes.com) that I also belong to. The consensus was that stone shields are not required, since some vehicles come without them from the factory. When replacing the front spindles on my SHO (as part of a brake upgrade) I drilled out the rivets holding the stone shields in place on the new spindles and removed them to facilitate cleaning up both parts. I then tapped the mounting holes in the spindles to allow bolting the stone shields back in place. If your stone shields are in decent condition, I would think this approach might work for you (although I can't say I'm familiar with your particular hardware). Alan '82 F-150 ------------------------------ From: "Travis Moore" Subject: Re: EXCESSIVE CRANKING ON A COLD START Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:00:08 -0500 Larry, Try checking the fuel pump relay. One with sticky or corroded contacts can cause your problem. Another culprit could be a weak fuel pump, but we'll save that thread for another day. Doc ------------------------------ From: Scrangler83 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 14:18:09 EDT Subject: Re: Popping Sound-another one In my truck (not my ford.. yeh especially when it is warm out.. so what should i do? Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 06:56:25 +1000 From: les williams Subject: injectors - 2051's Hi All, Does anybody happen to know the U.S. street price on a set of 8 Rochester 2051 Fuel injectors. I have been lead to believe they are a product of MSD (a licence job?) but the usual source down here doesn't import them. Have had an offer from another source, but I think I'm being 'screwed' - Badly !! An F150, about to receive a 502 cid transplant - don't ask what the donor engine is !!, and fuelled on propane. How many M&M (OHG) 450x mixers will I need. Can I get by on one or will 2 be a better proposition and performance is important....... ... but still having fun in a Ford designed in Detroit and build with a lot of parts from the Ford OZ parts bins .... regards Les Lost in the Land of OZ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 19:18:12 -0400 From: "Theodore D. Mills" Subject: Anti-freeze question Here's a good one maybe for the "professional wrenches" among us. I sent the wife out for a couple of gallons of anti-freeze the other day, so I could top off the overflow tanks on the "fleet". I told her to just get what ever was on sale..... She came back with 2 gallons of "Sierra" propolyene glycol anti-freeze. Gave me the spiel about being less toxic to animals, etc. With 2 dogs running around the yard, I can see the point. My question is, is this stuff compatible with "standard" ethelyne glycol anti-freeze? If it is, I will switch over when each vehicle comes due for coolant service. Right now I just needed to top things off..... Ted N3KWQ Aston, Pa 84 Mustang GT (in pieces) 85 Ranger XL 2WD 2.8L 91 F-250 XLT Lariat SC 4X4x460 94 Taurus LX wagon 3.8L ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 16:36:01 -0700 From: chuck sanborn Subject: Re: Anti-freeze question At 07:18 PM 6/3/00 -0400, you wrote: >My question is, is this stuff compatible with "standard" ethelyne glycol >anti-freeze? If I recall correctly (and sometimes that's iffy my wife says), no, the Sierra is not compatible. I have also heard that while Sierra is friendly to the environment, it is not so kind to the innards of the motor/radiator. Can't recall the source of it but it did make me drain my rad of that stuff and go back to Prestone. Chuck Sanborn Torrance, CA 86 F150 300 cu in six banger FAX 1-310-822-6815 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:48:37 +1000 From: les williams Subject: Re: Stone Shields Hi All, That was the point I was alluding to, unless there is another purpose for their use on the 4X4's, and I suspect there isn't, on a 2X4 it's as effective as any other vehicle's stone shields. Zip ! Has anyone really seen it effectivly repell an invasion by stones ? And if the stones are big enough to be causing damage to the shield, may I suggest that your problems may be a lot worst else where under the truck. My experiences over the last couple of years with respect to my F100 has been quite the opposite. My F100 has the stone shields heavily attacked with a 1/2 drill and been swiss cheesed to buggery, an Ambo modification, in the interests of rotor cooling, and I have managed to catch small stones between the remains of the shield and rotor, resulting in terrible noises. If it happens again the shields will go, permanently ! So what do the shields do? When you run over someone they don't burn their fingers or other body parts on the hot rotor ? Hmmm ..... regards Les Lost in the Land of OZ Awfanning > John Bowman wrote: > > << I have an '83 F100 and the stone shield that protects the front brakes on > the left front wheel is rattling. The question is do I need it and if so, > how do I replace it? Is the part expensive?>> > > This topic was discussed on the Taurus SHO list (SHOtimes.com) that I also > belong to. The consensus was that stone shields are not required, since some > vehicles come without them from the factory. > > > Alan > '82 F-150 ------------------------------ End of 80-96-list Digest V2000 #104 *********************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 80-96 Truck Mailing List Send posts to 80-96-list If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com ---------------------------------------------------------- .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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