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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 80-96-list); Tue, 08 Feb 2000 06:06:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 06:06:32 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 80-96-list digest users Reply-to: 80-96-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 80-96-list Digest V1 #2003 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 80-96 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 80-96-list Digest Mon, 07 Feb 2000 Volume: 01 Issue: 2003 In This Issue: Test Engine Swap Re: Engine Swap 85 F series climate control Re: TFI-IV and advance Re: TFI-IV and advance Re: TFI-IV and advance Re: 85 F series climate control Re: 85 F series climate control Re: 85 F series climate control Electric fans Ken Payne is "The Man" Re: 85 F series climate control Re: Electric fans Re: Electric fans Need help '89 F250/F350 cab swap Well, I give up.....:_( Re: Well, I give up.....:_( Re: Ken Payne is "The Man" Re: Well, I give up.....:_( Re: Well, I give up.....:_( Re: Well, I give up.....:_( Re: Well, I give up.....:_( Vin Decoding Compression test results, bad valve seals? Re: Power Lumbar Re: Vin Decoding Re: Vin Decoding Re: Well, I give up.....:_( Re: Power Lumbar Re: Vin Decoding ADMIN: Quoting limits Re: oil in air filter Re: TFI-IV and advance Re: TFI-IV and advance Re: ADMIN: Posting notes Re: FTE 80-96 - electrical fires: ignition switch recall Re: Compression test results, bad valve seals? Cold Speedometer Woes Re: thank the gods... E4OD Towing (long) Re: Ken Payne is "The Man" 1989 club wagon defective ABS Re: 1989 club wagon defective ABS Re: 80-96-list Digest V1 #2000 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DBblueboy webtv.net (Jerome Kelly) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 03:08:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Test http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://community.webtv.net/DBblueboy/DayBreakblueboyblue ------------------------------ From: DBblueboy webtv.net (Jerome Kelly) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 03:20:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Engine Swap Own 1987F150/5.0EFI/ C6. Want to swap to a 1989351/TBI/AOD from police cruiser. This drive train was aparently not offered to civilian crown vics. All the manuals only show 5.0. I can purchase this drivetrain for 350.00. I need to get my trk going. Some salvage yards say it wont swap. The intake manifold from the 5.0 wont interchange. The 351drive train is complete with computer. Does anyone know if it will work in m F150 as is with the TBI. I do not have a manual to give me anything to reference it. I don't know if the motor mounts will match or the exhause will hook up to the 351 manifolds. Does anyone know if it will work for sure or what modifications would I have to do to accomplish the above. thanks again. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://community.webtv.net/DBblueboy/DayBreakblueboyblue ------------------------------ From: slikness mindspring.com Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 08:07:09 -0500 Subject: Re: Engine Swap Your motor mounts will be the same and it will bolt to your C6 fine. I'm not sure on the exhaust. The 351 has a deck that is 1 1/2" higher than the 5.0 so you may need some exhaust work. That higher deck also means that you will need an adapter (common swap bracket from Ford) to swap your 5.0 accessories to your new 351. I don't know about the TBI, but I would think if you got all the computer stuff with it, it should be fine. Your intake definately will not swap. The 351 is wider than the 5.0. You may have to swap the oil pan from a front sump to a rear sump. Slik > Own 1987F150/5.0EFI/ C6. Want to swap to a 1989351/TBI/AOD from policecruiser. This drive train was aparently not offered to civilian crown vics. All the manuals only show 5.0. I can purchase this drivetrain for 350.00. I need to get my trk going. Some salvage yards say it wont swap. The intake manifold from the 5.0 wont interchange. The 351drive train is complete with computer. Does anyone know if it will work in m F150 as is with the TBI. I do not have a manual to give me anything to reference it. I don't know if the motor mounts will match or the exhause will hook up to the 351 manifolds. Does anyone know if it will work for sure or what modifications would I have to do to accomplish the above. thanks again. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 07:22:03 -0700 From: Andrew Antipas Subject: 85 F series climate control I have an '85 F350 with air conditioning. Where ever the climate control lever is placed I get air out of the AC vents, except in the OFF position. Then there is no flow. I cannot direct air to defrost or to the foot wells. I don't know if the AC is working at this point as well. I don't here the compressor kicking on, but it is winter time? I have not taken apart anything yet. Anybody out there have any suggestions? How much time and how difficult is it to disassemble the dash and climate control system. Thanks! ------------------------------ From: "DannyF" Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:43:18 -0600 Subject: Re: TFI-IV and advance > You'll find the SPOUT (not a clue what that stands for) connector on one > of > the wires coming out of the TFI module. It will either be an inline > type > (like on my 84, or a connector with a removable jumper that slides out > (my > 94). In both cases, remember it's a single wire connector. When you > disconnect it or remove the jumper the computer no longer can control > the > distrubutor advance. > > Hope that helps............... It will. Look for a plastic connector around the distrib. Like he said, it will probably be the single wire type and all you have to do is disconnect it when adjusting timing. "SPOUT" merely stands for "spark output". The DuraSpark IV base timing can and should be checked occasionally. Danny fitz011 ev1.net ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: TFI-IV and advance Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:10:00 -0500 The only thing remotely resembling this on my tempo had two wires but I pulled it anyway. It seemed to do the job......so much for manuals.....:-( Never did find the temp control module for the electric fan on that car.....:-( -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >> 94). In both cases, remember it's a single wire connector. When you ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 07:18:26 -0800 From: Chuck Sanborn Subject: Re: TFI-IV and advance Hi Danny, Thanks for the addtional information. I will look for that tonight when I get home. And also thanks for the definition of SPOUT. You should have heard what I was coming up with.... Chuck At 08:43 AM 2/7/00 -0600, you wrote: >It will. Look for a plastic connector around the distrib. Like he said, >it will probably be the single wire type and all you have to do is >disconnect it when adjusting timing. > >"SPOUT" merely stands for "spark output". > >The DuraSpark IV base timing can and should be checked >occasionally. >Danny >fitz011 ev1.net >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the body of the >message. ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: 85 F series climate control Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:21:17 -0500 Sounds like a vacuum problem to me. I took the module out of a 92 bird and it was not a pretty sight :-( Wound up taking part of the console out to get at some screws in the bottom of the panel and then another part to get at some more hidden screws etc.. Take a couple of patience pills before you start, allow lots of time to take lots of stuff apart, some of which didn't even need to come apart (that's the one you usually break something on). I would check all the vacuum lines going under the dash first and make sure they are all connected both there and under the hood. There are some AC related switches that can do some things to the system too like the low coolant or pressure or whatever but I'm no expert on that stuff. If this bounces, I think I have a clue now to what's happening but let's wait and see what happens :-) -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >I have an '85 F350 with air conditioning. Where ever the -snip- >position. Then there is no flow. I cannot direct air to defrost or to >the foot wells. I don't know if the AC is working at this ------------------------------ From: "Chapman, David P" Subject: Re: 85 F series climate control Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:25:15 -0500 I had a similar problem on an '81 Bronco. It happened under heavy acceleration. But I sold it before I found the problem. My guess would be a vacuum problem as I think vacuum controls the setting of the air deflectors. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Antipas [mailto:aantipas sopris.net] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 9:22 AM To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [80-96-list] 85 F series climate control I have an '85 F350 with air conditioning. Where ever the climate control lever is placed I get air out of the AC vents, except in the OFF position. Then there is no flow. I cannot direct air to defrost or to the foot wells. I don't know if the AC is working at this point as well. I don't here the compressor kicking on, but it is winter time? I have not taken apart anything yet. Anybody out there have any suggestions? How much time and how difficult is it to disassemble the dash and climate control system. Thanks! ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the body of the message. ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: 85 F series climate control Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:46:01 -0500 I forgot to mention that if it fails when you accellerate then it's the vacuum storage can that looks like a tomato juice can under the hood, either the check valve in the fitting is bad or it has a leak somewhere or you have another vacuum leak which allows it to work under high vacuum conditions but when you accellerate there isn't enough vacuum left to operate the doors and the leak at the same time etc...... -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >Sounds like a vacuum problem to me. I took the module out of >the one you usually break something on). I would check all >the vacuum lines >going under the dash first and make sure they are all ------------------------------ From: slikness mindspring.com Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 11:09:27 -0500 Subject: Electric fans A while ago, we were posting a thread concerning the HP loss of electric fans vs. conventional belt-driven fans. I have found a site that contained formula for calculating the HP loss of an altenator. This formula was found at Martel Brothers Performance Racing ( www.martelbrothers.com ) in their how to section under altenator FAQs: *** How much horsepower loss will an alternator cost? An alternator is a power converter. It converts mechanical power into electrical power. So it doesn’t lose power, but rather it changes its form. No electrical motor or generator is 100% efficient, and this is true of alternators as well. Alternators are about 85% efficient with power being lost in the form of heat and wind resistance (cooling fans). Thus, the real power loss of an alternator is relatively small. How much horsepower does the alternator pull? You can mathematically determine the HP cost at any given load. (Remember, alternators respond to load. If there is no load present, the alternator is basically freewheeling.) Amps x Volts = Watts Watts/ 745.7 (One HP) = Electrical HP produced by the alternator HP x 15% efficiency loss = HP loss HP + HP loss = total HP used Example: 57A x 14.9V =849.3 Watts 849.3 Watts / 745.7 = 1.14 HP 1.14 HP x 15% = 0.171 HP (horsepower lost) 1.14 + 0.17 = 1.31 HP total Now we know the cost to run the electrical system. The more important question is what is the pay back? Which way does does the horsepower benefit you? How much horsepower are you currently losing because of low electrical system voltage? An alternator does not cost power, it makes power! *** Using the above calculations, if I run 2 electric fans that draw 14 amps each, then I will lose around .6 HP. Slik ------------------------------ From: "Dave Resch" Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 09:08:36 -0700 Subject: Ken Payne is "The Man" Yo Ken: Thanks so much for all your time you put into the server swap. So far, I am pleased w/ everything about the new list software, particularly the ability to filter out excessive quotes. I'm hassling w/ UNIX/NT permissions at work on a regular basis nowadays, and I know what a royal pain it can be. You have done a great job on this list and I am simply thrilled to have the digest back again. Thousands of us silently appreciate the FTE lists, day-in day-out, w/out a second thought as to the work involved in maintaining such a high caliber operation as you have, and we all benefit from it. Thank you, thank you, thank you. FTE Rules!!! Dave R (M-block devotee) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 11:18:13 -0500 From: Martin Horne Subject: Re: 85 F series climate control At 07:22 AM 2/7/00 -0700, you wrote: >I have an '85 F350 with air conditioning. Where ever the climate control >lever is placed I get air out of the AC vents, except in the OFF >position. Then there is no flow. I cannot direct air to defrost or to >the foot wells. I don't know if the AC is working at this point as well. >I don't here the compressor kicking on, but it is winter time? If you put the controls to defrost then the compressor should kick in, even in the depths of winter. The AC runs to dry the air before the heater heats it, maximising the demisting efficiency. The compressor running in wintertime puzzled me for some time until a friend who works on AC systems explained it. >I have >not taken apart anything yet. Anybody out there have any suggestions? >How much time and how difficult is it to disassemble the dash and >climate control system. Thanks! > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the body of the >message. > Martin Horne '86 Bronco Long Island, NY ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: Electric fans Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:37:53 -0500 If you only use them to cool the engine then you lose "no" HP because they only run at idle or when pulling a heavy load on a hot day, the rest of the time they are off so there is no draw on the system :-) No matter how you design a clutch fan or folding fan it draws power 100% of the time, just less when clutched or folded so the electric is more efficient in every way except.......for actually cooling. For this job there is no substitute for an engine driven fan which is why all rear wheel drive trucks to this very day still use them AFAIK :-) When you see a diesel rig with an electric fan rather than, or in place of, an engine driven fan, let us know and we will all run down the the Rig store and get one of those babies :-) I have not found an electric large enough to fill my shroud yet with the cfm needed to do the job. Most of the larger ones have less cfm than smaller ones but smaller ones won't operate correctly with the stock shroud and the shrouds that come with them are ludicrous to say the least.....:-( Keep in mind that the air has to flow evenly through the radiator for best results so if you live in AZ or TX or UT etc. then you better pay close attention to the shoud that it is effiecent and also coveres the entire radiator or you may have trouble in hot weather. Smaller engines are easier to cool too so the larger you go the more important all this becomes. I know of very few people in hot climates using electric fans on 460's.....anybody have experience with this? -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- -SNIP- >Using the above calculations, if I run 2 electric fans that >draw 14 amps each, then I will lose around .6 HP. > >Slik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 11:47:56 -0500 From: Martin Horne Subject: Re: Electric fans Slik, A long while back I thought I heard that the mechanical fan on a car motor could draw as much as 3HP. At the time I drove a Triumph Spitfire and swapped the fan for an electric, 'cos it needed all the help it could get! Do you, or anyone else on the list, know whether this 3Hp number might be anywhare near the truth? Thanks for your time. >Using the above calculations, if I run 2 electric fans that draw 14 amps >each, then I will lose around .6 HP. Martin Horne '86 Bronco Long Island, NY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 06:13:10 -0800 From: "Joe" Subject: Need help '89 F250/F350 cab swap This is a repost due to forum going down.. (thank god its back up!) I have a '89 F350 w/7.5l gas (4wd). I have found a mint '88 F250 that had a diesel in it, and I would like to swap complete bodies. My body on my '89 is dented to hell, it is a true work truck. Both trucks are autos and both where built in '88. Are the cab wiring harness the same? I know I have to keep the engine harness for my truck, but will it plug into the diesel cab's wiring? Has anyone swapped cabs from diesel to gas or vice versa? I'm just worried about wiring, thats all. I also have a C6 2wd diesel trans for sale - cheap. It has 54k on it. Also 2wd power steering box, frame, utility body, etc. I'm in NH I wont ship it. Thanks !!!! Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Well, I give up.....:_( Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:48:14 -0500 I've tried every trick I can think of and Lis*tar keeps kicking me out so I'm not replying any more, just going to make new posts and try to keep the gist of the thread intact somehow :-( -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- ------------------------------ From: "Steve Schmeckpeper" Subject: Re: Well, I give up.....:_( Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:31:14 -0600 Hey Gary, I thought I'd try a reply too just to see how listar worked. Smeck ----- Original Message ----- From: Peters, Gary (G.R.) Subject: [80-96-list] Well, I give up.....:_( > I've tried every trick I can think of and Lis*tar keeps kicking me out so > I'm not replying any more, just going to make new posts and try to keep the > gist of the thread intact somehow :-( > > -- > Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, > 78 Bronco Loving, Gary > -- > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 14:25:07 -0500 From: flagship Subject: Re: Ken Payne is "The Man" Dave Resch wrote: > > Yo Ken: >Ditto!! Thanks... > Thanks so much for all your time you put into the server swap. So far, I am > pleased w/ everything about the new list software, particularly the ability to > filter out excessive quotes. > > I'm hassling w/ UNIX/NT permissions at work on a regular basis nowadays, and I > know what a royal pain it can be. You have done a great job on this list and I > am simply thrilled to have the digest back again. > > Thousands of us silently appreciate the FTE lists, day-in day-out, w/out a > second thought as to the work involved in maintaining such a high caliber > operation as you have, and we all benefit from it. > > Thank you, thank you, thank you. > > FTE Rules!!! > > Dave R (M-block devotee) > ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: Well, I give up.....:_( Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:43:40 -0500 You got away with more than I have so far.....:-) Somehow Lis*tar seems to know what the original post was even though you don't include it in the post??? -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >Hey Gary, I thought I'd try a reply too just to see how listar worked. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 12:02:04 -0800 From: Bob Kennedy Subject: Re: Well, I give up.....:_( Yep ------------------------------ From: "Steve Schmeckpeper" Subject: Re: Well, I give up.....:_( Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:08:21 -0600 I only cut the bottom off this time....................see what happens 8^> Smeck ----- Original Message ----- From: Peters, Gary (G.R.) To: <80-96-list ford-trucks.com> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 1:43 PM Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Well, I give up.....:_( > You got away with more than I have so far.....:-) Somehow Lis*tar seems to > know what the original post was even though you don't include it in the > post??? > > -- > Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, > 78 Bronco Loving, Gary > -- > > >Hey Gary, I thought I'd try a reply too just to see how listar worked. > ------------------------------ From: "Steve Schmeckpeper" Subject: Re: Well, I give up.....:_( Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:49:36 -0600 I finally bounced one 8^> I think it's the bottom 'unsubscribe' header you gotta cut out when you reply. That's my final answer Smeck, Ford Gray Don't Stay (Ford content) P.S. Listar's gonna clean up our act for us. ------------------------------ From: Robert Warnicke Subject: Vin Decoding Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:37:43 -0700 Hi all. I need help to decode a sample Vin. 1FDEE14H0KHC20000 I know from a mustang decoder that: 1F = Means Ford D = ? an A here would mean passenger car, a T means Trucks. Are there any other ever used, and what would they signify? E = ? This digit is for restraint systems on Mustangs ( A = Active belts B = Passive belts C = Active belts and Air bag) What does E mean, are there any other ever used, and what would they signify?. E = ? P is for car, X appears to be for Truck. Is E a van? I have seen S as well. Are there any other ever used, and what does each signify?. 14 = I think this means body type, does anyone have a list of all body types? The rest I pretty much understand are of no concern to me. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:49:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: Compression test results, bad valve seals? hey guys. i just got through doing a compression test on my 85 F-150. here are the results: #1 160psi #2 163psi #3 163psi #4 163psi #5 162psi #6 164psi the motor now has about 2,000 miles on it. it is not a brand new one, but a rebuilt one that was purchased from a local motor shop. it seems to me that the motor itself is in good shape, but i think the valve seals are bad. the motor runs fine and has a nice amount of power at low rpm, but anything above 50mph and i don't have hardly any power. and if i try to speed up to pass someone, or just keep the truck at 65mph while going up hill, it is like i am doing an impersonation of James Bond's smoke screen! i was fouling plugs out every 2 or 3 weeks, but since i installed an MSD coil, the plugs have now lasted for 4 weeks but they look preetty bad. anyone want to put there $.02 in, or do yall think i am right on this? David 85 F-150 300 I6 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:18:32 -0500 From: Rich Subject: Re: Power Lumbar Gentlemen, I have a question. I have a 96 F150 xl, with a vinyl bench. I have just purchased a used cloth flight bench seat with the power lumbar support. Question is, I ran the 12 volts up to the plug under the seat, but no matter what way I plug the 12 volts into it, it doesn't "pump" air, it forms a "Vacumn" instead. What could be wrong? I am at a loss.....for now.. Thanks, Rich ------------------------------ From: FLR150 aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:11:45 EST Subject: Re: Vin Decoding www.carfax.com/fox Go to this website and enter the VIN in question. Its pretty cool. Later Wayne Foy '94 Flareside SC ------------------------------ From: Robert Warnicke Subject: Re: Vin Decoding Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:26:44 -0700 Thanks for the tip, but that is not really the information I am looking for. I want to know what the characters mean, not the history on this Econoline. -----Original Message----- From: FLR150 aol.com [mailto:FLR150 aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 5:12 PM To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Vin Decoding www.carfax.com/fox Go to this website and enter the VIN in question. Its pretty cool. Later Wayne Foy '94 Flareside SC ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:38:14 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: Well, I give up.....:_( At 02:43 PM 2/7/00 -0500, you wrote: >You got away with more than I have so far.....:-) Somehow Lis*tar seems to >know what the original post was even though you don't include it in the >post??? If you check out the posts I made on the 61-79 list early this morning, you'll find that I upped the quoting limit to 40 lines. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:42:14 -0800 Subject: Re: Power Lumbar From: Rob Bryan Try reversing the polarity of the wiring you connected to the seat. It sounds like it is hooked up backwards making the inflation pump act as a suction pump. Rob > Gentlemen, I have a question. I have a 96 F150 xl, with a vinyl > bench. I have just purchased a used cloth flight bench seat with the > power lumbar support. Question is, I ran the 12 volts up to the plug > under the seat, but no matter what way I plug the 12 volts into it, it > doesn't "pump" air, it forms a "Vacumn" instead. What could be wrong? I > am at a loss.....for now.. > Thanks, > Rich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:55:53 -0500 From: S Spaulding Subject: Re: Vin Decoding Bob, to be more specific: 1FDEE14HOKHC20000 1FD = Ford Motor Company, USA (2 for Canada) and D means incomplete vehicle (IV), which means that it went to a non-Ford location to be completed. You must have a conversion van. E = Hydraulic brakes, Class E (6,001 - 7,000 Pounds) E14 = Econoline E150 Cargo Van (Truck or IV) H = 351 motor 0 = check digit K = 1989 H = Loraine, Ohio Assembly Plant C20000 = Numerical sequence I hope this helps. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:51:53 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: Quoting limits Quoting limits have been removed until I can get the bugs worked out. Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 20:04:55 -0500 From: John Wickerham Subject: Re: oil in air filter Regarding you guys with oil in the air filter housing. Did you check to see that the passage between your PCV valve and intake manifold is clear? It could well be that this is clogged up, and not allowing enough flow for the blowby past the rings to go through the PCV valve. If so, then it has to go through the breather. I had this happen on a car of mine. Mine was a throttel body injection with the PCV passage at the base of the throttle body. I had to use a 1/4" drill bit to very carefully pull out all the buildup. Once the passage was clear, it was fine. John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 17:58:43 -0800 From: Bob Kennedy Subject: Re: TFI-IV and advance The Spout connector looks like an in-line fuse, you pull the bridge out, then set base timing. On a '86 302 TFI-VI, it's located in the wire harness in front of the distributor. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 17:55:30 -0800 From: chuck sanborn Subject: Re: TFI-IV and advance At 07:26 PM 2/6/00 -0600, you wrote: >You'll find the SPOUT (not a clue what that stands for) connector on one of >the wires coming out of the TFI module Ahhhhhhh, it's becoming a bit more clear or at least not quite as muddy. I will go over the TFI chapter in Chiltons again and at least have an idea what I am reading. Thank you sir, Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 20:07:32 -0800 From: Bob Kennedy Subject: Re: ADMIN: Posting notes Uh huh, been there done that. I learned on my first reply. Bob Ken Payne wrote: > Just a note to everyone.... some of you are really going > to like this. Listar, our new mailing server, enforces > quoting limits. No longer will you be able to quote a > 50 line posting with a one line response. You'll receive > an error email if you do. > > Ken Payne > Ford Truck Enthusiasts > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the body of the > message. ------------------------------ From: "Troy" Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 21:46:41 -0500 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - electrical fires: ignition switch recall On 28 Jan 00, at 8:51, BAH NWC.EDU wrote: >There is a recall (issued about 2 years ago) for the ignition switch (the >electrical component mounted at the base of the steering column, not the lock >cylinder) that covers A LOT of Ford products. There's a remote possiblity of >this causing a fire. Give any Ford dealer the VIN of the vehicle in question, >and they can see if it is covered by this, or any other recall. What years and models were included in this recall? You might be a redneck if... Your clothesline has at least two splices in it. - Jeff Foxworthy Troy Williams ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 20:45:57 -0600 From: Jim Cannon Subject: Re: Compression test results, bad valve seals? At 16:49 07/02/00 -0600, you wrote: >hey guys. i just got through doing a compression test on my 85 F-150. ... anything above 50mph and i don't have hardly any power. >and if i try to speed up to pass someone, or just keep the truck at >65mph while going up hill, it is like i am doing an impersonation of >James Bond's smoke screen! i was fouling plugs out every 2 or 3 weeks, >but since i installed an MSD coil, the plugs have now lasted for 4 weeks >but they look preetty bad. anyone want to put there $.02 in, or do yall >think i am right on this? David- Is the smoke screen white or black? Because if it is black, it is too much fuel. If it is white, then it is oil. And with compession figures as good as you quoted, if it is oil then I'd say you are right, it is valve stem seals that are leaking. Were they replaced? Jim Cannon Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech '29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!" '80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 20:01:24 -0800 From: Mike Madden Subject: Cold Speedometer Woes I had this same problem. New speedo cable took care of it. regards, mike madden Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server wrote: > > Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:24:07 -0500 > From: "Theodore D. Mills" > Subject: Cold speedo error? > > Here's a good one...... > > I have noticed several times since the "real" winter arrived that the > speedo on my 91 F-250 reads high when it's cold. > .......... ------------------------------ From: "Dave Harmier" Subject: Re: thank the gods... Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 22:11:24 -0600 What you must understand, is I never want to HEAR my exhaust. As soon as shorty headers take the place of my utterly cracked drivers side manifold, I wont!!!!! So I can't help with glass packs, except to say... my truck had, before it rotted out, an East Texas inbred cat back system, with NO mufflers. It was plenty loud. As it went away, my cats were plugging up too. Until just before this new work, it was exiting right at the cab/bed junction, ans wasn't that loud. And our play car is a C**vy El Camino. Which has dual glass packs, no cats, and bazooka tips. It is VERY loud. As is getting real mufflers very soon. So there ya go. Do as you will, just don't do it to my vehicles!!!! Dave H. ------------------------------ From: AeroPics aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:55:00 EST Subject: E4OD Towing (long) I own a 92 F250 XLT 4 X 2, 351 ci, 3.55 rear end, E4OD transmission. Bought in 95. The tranny was rebuilt 2 years ago and the engine was rebuilt 3 months ago. I drag a 2500 lb (empty) 18' enclosed gooseneck trailer across the Everglades from Naples to Homestead, FL (120 miles) and back every month or so. Two weeks ago, during this trip, I stopped on the side of the road and smoke started rolling out from under the truck. Transmission fluid was dripping out of the vent hole and onto the exhaust pipe. Since I figured it would cool better if the truck was moving, there were no signs of trouble while driving, and I was in the middle of the Everglades I got back in and continued down the road. I had been running with cruise on at 73mph in overdrive (this is how I always drive this route with the trailer empty). I drove the remaining 80 miles to Homestead with the overdrive off at 60. No further problems. When I arrived I checked the fluid and it seemed to be above the full mark. I drove 50 miles loading up the trailer and 120 miles back home with overdrive off at 65. No sign of any problems. I checked the fluid after driving the next day and it was still above the full mark. We used it every day (without the trailer) for the rest of the week with no problems. Friday night I drove the truck to Birmingham, AL to bring a car back to Naples. We used a Uhaul auto transport (2000 lb) and were transporting a small 2300 lb car. At the last gas stop after 3 hours of hills at 70 the truck was dripping fluid on the exhaust again. It stopped while we were filling up. There were no symptoms, other than the dripping fluid, and the overdrive had been turned off since we picked up the trailer. We finished the trip in rather dense fog so our speed dropped to 50 or 60 for much of the remaining 300 miles and we had no further problems. The Haynes manual mentions fluid coming from the vent being a sign of over filling. I will be changing the fluid and filter. Seems like an extra transmission cooler might be a good idea also. I am thinking the mechanic changed the fluid after replacing the engine and put in too much. When the fluid heats up it expands and overflows out the vent. The tranny shifts smooth, doesn't whine, doesn't clunk into gear, performs like it is in perfect condition. Has anyone experienced anything like this? Do my conclusions seem reasonable? Thanks Ron Naples, FL ------------------------------ From: CRGREENE1 aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 00:34:11 EST Subject: Re: Ken Payne is "The Man" DITTO KEN! Thanks a lot for such a great job you put into everything! Chris Greene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 14:46:14 +0800 From: Larry Tan Subject: 1989 club wagon defective ABS Dear Sir, Need help. I have a 1989 ford van club wagon, and I need to find out where the problem is. But I don't have a scan tool. How to I know where the defect is originating from the box or the sensor. How do I short or ground the wires to retieve the data? How do I retrieve the ABS code with which PIN# should I short or ground. Thank you for any advise you can extend. Sam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 23:12:26 -0800 From: Bob Kennedy Subject: Re: 1989 club wagon defective ABS Go here, it's got all the info you'll need. Good Luck, Bob http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dalidesign.com/hbook/eectest.html > How do I short or ground > the wires to retieve the data? How do I retrieve the ABS code with which > PIN# should I short or ground. Thank you for any advise you can extend. > > Sam ------------------------------ From: "Bowman, John A" Subject: Re: 80-96-list Digest V1 #2000 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 07:04:08 -0400 Just to let you know I have yet to receive the digest... I have been getting it for almost 2 years... must I resubscribe? ************************* J.A. Bowman, P.Eng. Project Manager Aliant 5788 North St. Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada, B3K 1N7 ph: (902) 486-3848 cell: (902) 471-3165 email: jbowman mtt.ca ************************* > -----Original Message----- > From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server [mailto:listar ford-trucks.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 1:04 AM > To: 80-96-list digest users > Subject: 80-96-list Digest V1 #2000 > > > ========================================================== > Ford Truck Enthusiasts 80-96 Truck Mailing List > > Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com > > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the > message. > ========================================================== > > ------------------------------------ > 80-96-list Digest Sat, 05 Feb 2000 Volume: 01 Issue: 2000 > > In This Issue: > ADMIN: Back Online > ADMIN: New list commands > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 00:07:21 -0500 > From: Ken Payne > Subject: ADMIN: Back Online > > Sorry for the week long down-time of the list. Had major problems > getting our Majordomo list server working on the new dedicated > server. After 3 days, I gave up and started installing Listar. > This new mailer is 10x more powerful than Majordomo. I will > follow up on Saturday with more information, including full > usage instructions. > > The lists will come up one at a time over the next 24 hours, > starting with the largest list (61-79) and now 80-96-list. > Please do not respond to this, I've been buried and staying > up until 2am each day since last Friday with this. > > Posting address is the same. > > Regards, > Ken Payne > Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts > http://www.ford-trucks.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 00:07:29 -0500 > From: Ken Payne > Subject: ADMIN: New list commands > > Hi gang! > > Here's the list commands. This new server will no longer require > you to stop HTML and MIME. It will filter them out automatically. > No more posting problems for the newbies! > > TO SUBSCRIBE TO A LIST: > Send a message to listar ford-trucks.com. In the subject field, > enter "subscribe [listname]". Or, you can send a message to > [listname]-request ford-truck.com with a subject of "subscribe". > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM A LIST: > Send a message to listar ford-trucks.com. Enter > "unsubscribe [listname]" in the subject field. You can also > send a message to [listname]-request ford-trucks.com with a > subject of "unsubscribe". While you should NOT send your > unsubscribe command to the list itself, Listar will attempt > to trap such erroneous postings and forward them to the list > administrators for proper handling. > TO GET A DIGEST EVERY DAY: > Send a message to listar ford-trucks.comthe with a subject > of "set [listname] digest". This will turn on digests, and you > will receive a digest however often the server is configured to > send them. > TO STOP GETTING A DIGEST: > Send a message to listar ford-trucks.com with a subject > of "unset [listname] digest". This will turn off digest mode, and > instead you will receive an eMail every time something is posted > to the list. > TO GET A DIGEST AND NORMAL POSTS: > Send a message to listar ford-trucks.com with a subject of > "set [listname] digest2". This will activate digest mode with |
