From: owner-80-96-list-digest ford-trucks.com (80-96-list-digest)
To: 80-96-list-digest ford-trucks.com
Subject: 80-96-list-digest V3 #355
Reply-To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Sender: owner-80-96-list-digest ford-trucks.com
Errors-To: owner-80-96-list-digest ford-trucks.com
Precedence: bulk


80-96-list-digest Thursday, December 16 1999 Volume 03 : Number 355



=======================================================================
Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980-1996 Trucks and Vans
Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
To unsubscribe, send email to:
majordomo ford-trucks.com
with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list-digest" in the body of the
message.
=======================================================================
In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - is my truck running too hot?
Re: FTE 80-96 - 5 ways my truck has changed my life
FTE 80-96 - RE: Rear Wheel HP
FTE 80-96 - Re: 5 ways my truck has changed my life....
FTE 80-96 - glasspack
FTE 80-96 - is my truck running too hot?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 5 ways my truck has changed my life....
Re: FTE 80-96 - 5 ways my truck has changed my life
Re: FTE 80-96 - glasspack
Re: FTE 80-96 - Faded Door Panels
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Rear Wheel HP
FTE 80-96 - Fw: DO NOT MISS!!! I'M TOLD
Re: FTE 80-96 - is my truck running too hot?
FTE 80-96 - Warner T-18 shifter problems

=======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 07:06:13 -0600
From: "Steve Schmeckpeper"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - is my truck running too hot?

Dave, What caused it to overheat in the first place? Did you check/replace
the thermostat? Howzbout the radiator, water pump and hoses? Mine stays
between the -or- .
To check the gauge: disconnect sensor wire and needle shoule read
around -\-, then short the sensor wire to ground with a 10 ohm resistor and
the needle should read close to full scale -/-. This method worked on my
"87" and wuz suggested by one of the other listers 8^>>
Smeck

- ----- Original Message -----
From: David Trowbridge

my step brother(the last
> owner) severely overheated the truck and when the new motor was put in,
> the temp sensor was reused. could it just be the sensor is bad, or is
> it normal to run this warm?


== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 07:33:20 -0700
From: "Jim"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 5 ways my truck has changed my life

Date sent: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:30:56 -0500
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
From: "Theodore D.Mills"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 5 ways my truck has changed my life
Copies to: off-road-list ford-trucks.com
Send reply to: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com

Just a little humor for the hoildays.....


5 ways my truck has changed my life...

snip>>>

4. You begin to really want to kill the person who
designed the parking lot
at the mall (4X4 and long wheelbase owners)

snip> >>


Yeah, who is that dumb SOB anyway? Must drive a
yugo or some other kind of suppository

Jim Flinchbaugh 87 F150 ex cab,5.0 EFI 4x4 4speed
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:16:15 EST
From: Awfanning aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Rear Wheel HP

OK, I'll admit the last time I used a dyno was back when Richard Nixon was
still a common name in the news. And it was an engine dyno at that. So, for
the moment, let me re-phrase my statement to say that "crankshaft" horsepower
has nothing to do with tires, gearing etc.

Now, tell me more about how tires and gearing affect "rear wheel" horsepower.
Is it predictable? How is this knowledge used in practice? It seems to me
that this can only occur as a result of minimizing the losses in the
drivetrain (which is admittedly useful but has nothing to do with the engine).

Alan Fanning

== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:35:39 -0500
From: "The Lublin Family"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 5 ways my truck has changed my life....

>1. Being happy to get 10 Miles per gallon (460 owners only)


Or 7 MPG(351M-400, 360-390)

>2. Being happy to hear that snow is forecast just before that trip to visit
>far away relatives (4X4 owners)


Or snowplow owners

>3. Devloping any or all of the following urges;
>A desire to listen to country music, the desire to buy a shotgun and shoot
>something for dinner, being happy to park in the middle of a muddy field at
>the flea market/concert/football game etc...


I listened to country and had shot guns long before I was old enuff to get
my first truck:)


>4. You begin to really want to kill the person who designed the parking lot
>at the mall (4X4 and long wheelbase owners)


Naw..Thats what double parking is for!

>5. On weekend shopping trips you stop asking your wife/significant other
>"how the H*ll are we gonna get that home!"


Yea..and when you bring something home in it, they get all over YOU for it!

Chris "Lube" Lublin
Motor City Repair and Salvage
lublin tir.com
1982 F-250 4X4
1988 F-150
and tons of Mopars and one Rambler.

== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:31:09 PST
From: 2insane excite.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - glasspack

Well if u just wanted it louder, i'm still wondering wouldn't it have been
easier to put in a straight pipe instead of the glasspack and then u
wouldn't have had to go to the trouble of breaking the glass out of it? i
mean fiberglass. (thanx for the correction blake) Or is their other things
that will change the exhaust tone in it.(not the know-it-all i wish i was).

DK




________________________________________________________________
Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://voicemail.excite.com
Talk online at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://voicechat.excite.com
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:39:29 PST
From: 2insane excite.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - is my truck running too hot?

- --------------------
C\ normal /H

if i sit or drive the temp stays between the r and the l once it gets
warmed up, but it never goes lower or higher. my step brother(the last
owner) severely overheated the truck and when the new motor was put in,
the temp sensor was reused. could it just be the sensor is bad, or is
it normal to run this warm?
- ------------------------

My temp gauge needle is usually between the o and the r after the thermostat
starts working. It's never gotten higher than the m. You might have a high
thermostat in it. Before I changed my water pump and thermostat the temp
never went above the n unless i was towing or doing some "race-car driving"
:-) Even then it didn't get up to the r. I'm not sure if its good to have it
run that warm, or it could be running good and the sensor is just bad like u
said.




________________________________________________________________
Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://voicemail.excite.com
Talk online at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://voicechat.excite.com
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:25:48 -0800
From: don neomagic.com (Donald Paauw)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 5 ways my truck has changed my life....


>1. Being happy to get 10 Miles per gallon (460 owners only)


Put a fuel bladder in the bed. Even less miles per gallon, but more
miles per fillup.

>2. Being happy to hear that snow is forecast just before that trip to visit
>far away relatives (4X4 owners)

Yay, means I go skiing & skip the relatives.

>3. Devloping any or all of the following urges;
>A desire to listen to country music, the desire to buy a shotgun and shoot
>something for dinner, being happy to park in the middle of a muddy field at
>the flea market/concert/football game etc...

Hmmm, never shot a burrito but I'll give it a try. Rifle or shotgun?


>4. You begin to really want to kill the person who designed the parking lot
>at the mall (4X4 and long wheelbase owners)


That's what the paint is there for; it slides easier than bare metal.

>5. On weekend shopping trips you stop asking your wife/significant other
>"how the H*ll are we gonna get that home!"

See #1 re fuel bladder.
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:31:43 -0800
From: Chris McKinnon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 5 ways my truck has changed my life

>3. Devloping any or all of the following urges;
>A desire to listen to country music, the desire to buy a shotgun and shoot
>something for dinner, being happy to park in the middle of a muddy field at
>the flea market/concert/football game etc...
>
You forgot about the need to wear a cowboy hat and a string tie...
Chris
'84 F150
351W on propane
NP 435
NP 208
281K Km

== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:43:40 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - glasspack

>Well if u just wanted it louder, i'm still wondering wouldn't it have been
>easier to put in a straight pipe instead of the glasspack and then u
>wouldn't have had to go to the trouble of breaking the glass out of it? i
>mean fiberglass. (thanx for the correction blake) Or is their other things
>that will change the exhaust tone in it.(not the know-it-all i wish i was).
>
>DK
>

From my experience, if you can hold your breath long enough, the glasspacks
will get louder on their own. Someone once told me that if you pour a quart
of drain oil into the mufflers before you put them on, the oil will burn
the fiberglass out of them.

If all you want is a loud muffler, get one with baffles and run a bar
through it before you put it on. I prefer the turbo mufflers to the
glasspacks for sound anyway.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
"Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."


== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:04:10 -0500
From: "Charles Brown"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Faded Door Panels

I have an 85 crew cab. I ordered it with the low - E glass ( an option that
year). Apparently they gave me the low-E glass in the front doors but not
the back doors. The front door panels are near perfect. The rear ones are
faded and peeling even though they appear to be identical material.

== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:15:57 -0600 (CST)
From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Rear Wheel HP

the more weight you have to spin or turn, the more power it takes to get
that weight up to speed. it is just like dynoing a motor with and
without the accessories hooked up. as far as tires go, the more mass
towards the far edges of a tire, the more power loss. just by going
from 14" whels and tires, to 17 or 18" wheels and tires you actually
lose any where from 5-10hp.

== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:39:58 -0500
From: "Steve Midlik"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fw: DO NOT MISS!!! I'M TOLD

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 9:08 PM
Subject: DO NOT MISS!!! I'M TOLD


>> DO NOT MISS IT.Mark this on your calendar
>>
>> This year will be the first full moon to occur on the winter solstice,
Dec.
>> 22, commonly called the first day of winter. Since a full moon on the
>> winter solstice occurred in conjunction with a lunar perigee (point in
the
>> moon's orbit that is closest to Earth).
>>
>> The moon will appear about 14% larger than it does at apogee (the
>> point in it's elliptical orbit that is farthest from the Earth) since
the Earth
>>
>> is also several million miles closer to the sun at this time of the
year
>> than in the summer, sunlight striking the moon is about 7% stronger
making
>> it brighter. Also, this will be the closest perigee of the Moon of the
>> year since the moon's orbit is constantly deforming.
>>
>> If the weather is clear and there is a snow cover where you live, it
>> is believed that even car headlights will be superfluous.
>>
>> On December 21st. 1866 the Lakota Sioux took advantage of this
>> combination of occurrences and staged a devastating retaliatory ambush on
>> soldiers in the Wyoming Territory.
>>
>> In laymen's terms it will be a super bright full moon, much more than
>> the usual AND it hasn't happened this way for 133 years! Our ancestors
133
>> years ago saw this. Our descendants 100 or so years from now will see
this again.
>>
>> December 22 Winter solstice is at 2:44 a.m. EST
>> The moon is at perigee (221,614 miles from Earth), 5:55 a.m. EST
>> Full moon is at 12:31 p.m. EST
>


== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:36:35 -0600 (CST)
From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - is my truck running too hot?

the truck originally overheated because of my step brothers ignorance.
the factory radiator split and it overheated without him knowing. the
truck got soo hot, it cracked a cast iron head in 4 places, blew out the
freeze plugs, and blew the head gasket. since then, the motor and
tranny have been replaced as well as the radiator, water pump, hoses,
and thermostat. it currently has a 180 degree stat, but i have a 160
degree one in my tool box right now.

== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 04:56:59 -0500
From: "The Lublin Family"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Warner T-18 shifter problems

Hello all:

Yesterday on my '82 F-250 4X4, I went to back it out of the garage after I
finished working on it...Well I got it out and it would not come out of
reverse... Well finally after a few minutes of fighting it, I managed to
get it to pop out of reverse...I did get it into 3rd....Well it has decided
to stay in third...It will not come out of 3rd gear, and now the shifter
will move all over the place but yet it is stuck in gear...Is this one of
those deals where I have to replace the transmission top cover and even the
shift tower as well? Can this existing shifter be fixed? Anybody have a....


To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts

Registration is free, easy and gives you access to more features.
If you are not registered, click here to register.
If you are already registered, you can login here.

If you are already logged in and are seeing this message, your web browser is blocking session cookies. Change your browser cookie settings to allow session cookies.




Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Policy - Jobs

This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.