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80-96-list-digest Sunday, December 12 1999 Volume 03 : Number 351



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Charity Event
FTE 80-96 - 1995 Bronco
FTE 80-96 - 1989 F350 Crew Cab
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cleaning an EGR Valve
Re: FTE 80-96 - Propane conversion
FTE 80-96 - Shimmy..shimmy..shake
Re: FTE 80-96 - Shimmy..shimmy..shake
Re: FTE 80-96 - Shimmy..shimmy..shake
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: FTE Anniversary
Re: FTE 80-96 - Shimmy..shimmy..shake

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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:48:14 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Charity Event

Well, its that time of year again. Ford Truck Enthusiasts
would like to use the power of all our list members to
help someone in need during this time of year. If you
know someone in dire straits, whether they are a list
member or not, please email me (off the list to keep the
traffic down) at kpayne ford-trucks.com.

I'll present all the charity submissions on Sunday on the
website, minus names, and we'll vote on who we want to
support. Last year, we raised about $750 in two weeks
for a very worthy cause. This year, I'm sure we can do
even more. Together, we have great strength.

Regards,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 09:13:47 -0800 (PST)
From: rich may
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1995 Bronco

I was wondering what, if any, performace products
there are for a 1996 Bronco with a 351.
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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 09:20:20 -0800
From: Jim Cross
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1989 F350 Crew Cab

I'm working on my 89 F350 Crew Cab that had a working life in logging
Only 36 K miles, no dents, but many surface rust spots from rock chips
It's my first Ford
5.8L five speed manual short box single rear axle 2 WD.

How can I find out what options/specs the vehicle has like rear end ratio
trans gears,paint color.
Has a base vinyl bench seat interior
Can I bolt in better front seats from a 2 door model ?

Will need a repaint when I 'm done with the other fix-ups.
Is any one type of paint better than others?
Need durability
Is there a "Best" paint to do the frame and underside with?

Thanks
Jim

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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 11:38:07 -0600
From: "DannyF"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cleaning an EGR Valve

>
> You are right. I get the 52 code also. Previous owner removed the PSP
> and
> I have not replaced it. What I meant was code 32. Thank you for
> pointing
> that out.
> Roger

OK, here we go. First, are you getting vac to the EVP? Should be
7-10 in above idle, no more.

Will the EGR diaphram hold vac? You can borrow a MitiVac from
AutoZone to check this if you don't have one.

If the above checks out, take off the EGR and clean the
port/valve/seat. I use a small sander on a Dremel but you can soak
in carb cleaner/laquer thinner and use a small pick or wire brush to
get out the "coked" stuff. Do not allow any chemical to
migrate/splash anywhere near the diaphram.

You can test for a good seal by pressurizing the inlet and see if the
outlet has no air leaks(if you have compressed air).

Also check the inlet pipe(big 1 1/16" nut w/flare on end) for
crud/coke also.

Danny
danf01 worldnet.att.net
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 07:07:32 +1100
From: les williams
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Propane conversion

Hi All,
The use of dual LPG & EFI seems to add a whole lot of complexity to the
conversion. This is a situation I have tried to stay out of. I think the fancy
foot work required to make sure the fuel injectors don't foul up leaves a bit
to be desired, and God only knows they seem to be quite capable of fouling up by
themselves on petrol only.
I do believe this is one reason the EL and now UA Falcon, as used by the Sydney
taxi fleet are converting to solo LPG fuel.
The problem of upper cylinder lube has me in a quandary. No, I don't use one,
and how will it handle the new smog laws. Since Phred has an entire R & D dept.
to play in, ( Yeah, Sure I'm jealous!! ) he may comment, but my feeling is, as
long as the engine is 'really' built for ULP fuel use, it should be OK.(Is the
truck assembly line really the dumping place for excess stock and end of
component runs?). You should already have hardened valve seat inserts, the
'mickey mouse' guides & valves. If the cylinder heads are wearing, it gives you
the 'opportunity' to replace, with 'the good gear'. I can't speak for Cairns, up
there in the 'permanent sunshine' but down here, anybody doing serious head work
in Sydney, now knows their way around LPG heads, They can't afford to knock back
the business, or do a shoddy job. It's not the 'Black Art' it used to be and
certainly anybody doing performance head work should have no worries.

What sort of LPG delivery system are you using?
What was your solution to the Dizzy curve selection?

I have not really tried hard to calculate M.P.G. or K.P.L., Remember, I'm an
un-repentant street racer, and that keeps stuffing the figures, but thru the
F100 Club, I'm fairly certain solo propane trucks are claiming 5's on
Propane.These people are obviously far more sensible than I.

We have a new project starting real soon now, a '91 F150, tossing out the 351w
and installing a 460bb, on solo Propane. The delivery system will be dual 800cfm
mixers, on a Weiand dual quad manifold, and more than likely 2 vaporizers per
mixer. Lucky this is going into a truck, space wise. It is going to be used to
haul a speed boat, along with all the baggage that seems to be needed in that
sport(?).
The Engineers Certificate for compliance will be about $200, after working thru
the long check list of things to do: ( Alex - After the thread about
modifications & what can you do, I'll get in first.) ;-))

regards

Les
Lost in the Land of OZ


Josť & Susan Ozorio wrote:

> Hi from the land downunder.
> I have a '90 F150 XLT 4x4 (351w EFI) (C6 Auto) with dual fuel installed. By
> my calculations I am getting 5.5 Km/L on ULP and 4.3 Km/L on LPG. Power is
> also down somewhat on gas, although I really only notice the difference at
> highway speeds when in the hills. The vehicle is fitted with 35x12.5x15 BFG
> AT's and is somewhat over geared for hills.
> Another item that needs to be addressed with a propane installation is lack
> of lube for the valve guides when on gas. As the gas is so dry, an upper
> cylinder lube injection unit should also be fitted. One of these units
> meters UCL at an adjustable rate into the inlet manifold via one of the
> vacuum ports. This serves the similar situation as adding fuel additives /
> cleaners to the petrol tanks. Even though a UCL injection unit will continue
> to add oil and lube the valves when on petrol, it wont clean the injectors.
>
> Josť
>
> Cairns, Queensland Australia
>
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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:25:55 -0800
From: "Bud Dean"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Shimmy..shimmy..shake

Hi,

'92 F250, 160k mi

Symptoms:

Shimmy in front...sometimes have to stop...in fact on FWY did once..Truck
continued travel straight...but, it felt like the front wheels were going to
come off.

As long as the road is smooth, I'm ok...

It's been a good truck...

Is this a Tie-rod thing? Ball Joints...or?

Thanks in advance,

Bud Dean

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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 22:32:22 -0500
From: "Phil / Debi"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Shimmy..shimmy..shake

> Symptoms:
>
> Shimmy in front...sometimes have to stop...in fact on FWY did once..Truck
> continued travel straight...but, it felt like the front wheels were going
to
> come off.
>
> As long as the road is smooth, I'm ok...
>
I had what sounds like the same thing on my 79, It would be alright then all
of a sudden would shimmy so bad the steering wheel would jerk right out of
your hand. Turned out that front tires were wearing funny, rebalanced and it
cured the problem.

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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 22:34:08 -0500
From: "Phil / Debi"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Shimmy..shimmy..shake

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Phil / Debi
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Shimmy..shimmy..shake


>
> > Symptoms:
> >
> > Shimmy in front...sometimes have to stop...in fact on FWY did
once..Truck
> > continued travel straight...but, it felt like the front wheels were
going
> to
> > come off.
> >
> > As long as the road is smooth, I'm ok...
> >
I had what sounds like the same thing on my 79, It would be alright then
all
of a sudden would shimmy so bad the steering wheel would jerk right out of
your hand. Turned out that front tires were wearing funny, rebalanced and
it
cured the problem.

Phil Beattie
66 F100
79 F250 4x4
91 F150 4x4
www.geocities.com/imstobu
>

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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 23:31:14 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: FTE Anniversary

FTE will soon be celebrating another anniversary. Please feel
free to share any fond memories of our past with me, what you
like best about FTE or its users, etc. I'm putting together
a "perspective" article and would like to include items from
the users, who after all, make FTE the community it is.

Everyone is welcome to contribute, whether you are a new
member or you've been here from the beginning. Send anything
you'd like to submit to me personally.

Thanks,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 22:53:08 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Shimmy..shimmy..shake

Bud-
You really need to have all of your front end stuff checked out by someone
that knows what they are doing, then consider how much of it you want to
tackle yourself and what you want to have them do. This does not sound
like something you should ignore.

Tie-rod ends you can do, if you get the tool to pop them off. (They have a
tapered shaft that is drawn tightly into a tapered hole by a nut.) Easy,
once you have popped it apart.

I had similar symptoms and found both axel pivot bushings very badly worn,
and both radius arm bushings. I replaced them myself. A fair bit of work,
but no special tools required. (Ball joint press tool, looks like a big
C-clamp, presses old pivot bushings in and out.) The REALLY tightened up
the handling for me. I think I also did a tie rod end or two, but they did
not make such a big difference.


At 18:25 11/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>'92 F250, 160k mi
>
>Symptoms:
>
>Shimmy in front...sometimes have to stop...in fact on FWY did once..Truck
>continued travel straight...but, it felt like the front wheels were going to
>come off.
>
>As long as the road is smooth, I'm ok...
>
>It's been a good truck...
>
>Is this a Tie-rod thing? Ball Joints...or?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Bud Dean

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech....


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