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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality
Re: FTE 80-96 - 87 F250
RE: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality
RE: FTE 80-96 - 87 F250
RE: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality
FTE 80-96 - 3 speed to 4 speed conversion
FTE 80-96 - 84 F150 EGR
Re: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality
Re: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality
RE: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality
RE: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality
FTE 80-96 - Thanks for the opinions/facts (Clear Lenses)
FTE 80-96 - Bronco Seat
Re: [Re: FTE 80-96 - Class C Powerstroke?]
Re: FTE 80-96 - 3 speed to 4 speed conversion
Re: FTE 80-96 - Is this legal?
Re: FTE 80-96 - 3 speed to 4 speed conversion
Re: FTE 80-96 - Welding on '90 with FI, Other Questions
FTE 80-96 - Transmission Fluid Change
FTE 80-96 - Re: 1988 FORD BRONCO XLT FOR SALE TRAIL READY!!
Re: FTE 80-96 - Transmission Fluid Change
Re: FTE 80-96 - Transmission Fluid Change
FTE 80-96 - Transmission Knocking?
RE: FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96 question about flowmaster
Re: FTE 80-96 - 3 speed to 4 speed conversion
FTE 80-96 - ABS system
Re: FTE 80-96 - Class C Powerstroke?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Ignition Switch
Re: [Re: FTE 80-96 - Class C Powerstroke?]
RE: FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96 question about flowmaster
Re: FTE 80-96 - Is this legal?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Welding on '90 with FI, Other Questions
Re: FTE 80-96 - Transmission Fluid Change
FTE 80-96 - R/V
RE: FTE 80-96 - Is this legal?

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 06:11:13 -0500
From: "Michael McCarthy"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality

Well, I can't speak to the legality of the color of lenses but I can tell
you that automobile manufacturers are required to provide red lenses for
brake lights that meet a specific color requirement. In fact the
specifications are quite exact and a colorimeter has to be used to measure
the exact spectral range of the color of the lens under illuminated
conditions. Seems to me that if the government wants all tail light and
brake lenses to be the same color there must be some law against changing
them. Besides this is one area where conformity might save countless lives.
I expect to see red tail lights and brake lights and I sincerely hope that
everyone out there leaves them red or doesn't live in my part of the
country.

Michael McCarthy
Export, PA

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From: Harris, Scott
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 4:48 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality


>I believe that the lens color doesn't matter as long as the bulb is red and
>shows red to the rear.....
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael R. Dunbar [mailto:mdunbar vtc.vsc.edu]
>Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 2:39 AM
>To: Ford
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality
>
>
>Since we seem to be on the topic of legality, I was wondering what is the
>deal with clear tail lenses? Living in Vermont you don't see too much of
the
>aftermarket / custom scene, however there are a few people around who trick
>out their car or truck. I've seen one or two where they have clear tail
>lenses, however, I've heard these are becoming illegal. Anyone know as to
>why this is? Also, does this apply to those red/clear combo tail lenses? I
>found a decent listing at Godfather Customs
>(http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.godfathercustoms.com) and I was merely curious. Thanks!
>
>Michael R. Dunbar
>Technical Director, WVTC 90.7 FM
>Vermont Technical College
>Randolph Center, VT 05061
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wvtc.net
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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 06:01:58 PST
From: "Donald Porto"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 87 F250

I had a similar problem about 70K miles. Replacing the sending unit solved
mine.
/Don Porto


>From: "Kevin Moore"
>Reply-To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>To: "Ford Group"
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - 87 F250
>Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:32:01 -0800
>
>My F250, 5.0 with 70k miles is having a problem with the oil pressure.
>Cold
>and at 1500-2000 rpm, the oil pressure is fine. As soon as I stop, the
>pressure drops to 0 and the engine light comes on. There is not rattling
>normally associated with no oil pressure and I am not low on oil. Could it
>be the gauge, oil pump or worse?
>
>If it is worse, how tough is it to put a 351 in place of this motor?
>
>Thanks.
>Kevin Moore
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:07:29 -0600
From: "Moore, Jimmy"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality

Not only is it a safety consideration, it's dumb. You want to put red
blinkers on the front. Let's put in a little scenario. It's dusk, and you
have your running lights on. You turn out somewhere, and it looks as if you
are going backwards, and it may cause some accident. That's the same
philosophy as to why you HAVE to have red on the back for your running and
brake lights, because if you pull out in front of someone, it appears as if
you have backed out and you are in reverse, causing the guy to instinctively
slam his brakes. Causes a lot of problems. Also, about the clear taillight
lens with a red bulb. It's the UGLIEST DAMN THING I'VE EVER SEEN! I've
seen it here in OKC on ALL colors of trucks, and it is just plain ugly.
MHO
Jim Moore
1981 Ford F-150
Oklahoma City

- -----Original Message-----
From: Harris, Scott [mailto:SHarris dfwairport.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 3:46 AM
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality


I believe that the lens color doesn't matter as long as the bulb is red and
shows red to the rear.....

- -----Original Message-----
From: Michael R. Dunbar [mailto:mdunbar vtc.vsc.edu]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 2:39 AM
To: Ford
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality


Since we seem to be on the topic of legality, I was wondering what is the
deal with clear tail lenses? Living in Vermont you don't see too much of the
aftermarket / custom scene, however there are a few people around who trick
out their car or truck. I've seen one or two where they have clear tail
lenses, however, I've heard these are becoming illegal. Anyone know as to
why this is? Also, does this apply to those red/clear combo tail lenses? I
found a decent listing at Godfather Customs
(http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.godfathercustoms.com) and I was merely curious. Thanks!

Michael R. Dunbar
Technical Director, WVTC 90.7 FM
Vermont Technical College
Randolph Center, VT 05061
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:15:33 -0600
From: "Moore, Jimmy"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 87 F250

I had this problem on my '81 F-150. I changed the oil sending unit on it,
and it still did it. Since the block still had about a month of warranty
left on it, I took it back to them and asked them to look at it. Come to
find out, the pickup screen was clogged (I forgot to change it when I
switched blocks), and that caused the oil pump to go bad. They replaced it
at no charge and put a high performance oil pump on it. Just a thought,
because I wasn't ever low on oil, either. One thing I found that helps
until you discover the problem, is when you stop, put it in neutral and give
it a little gas. That may help to keep the pressure up (After the May 3rd
tornado took my house, getting in and out of the area was a lot of stop and
go, and this is what I had to do to keep the pressure up).

Jim Moore
1981 Ford F-150 300 Six (After tax refund will be 302)
Oklahoma City

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Moore [mailto:kmoore5064 earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 8:32 PM
To: Ford Group
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 87 F250


My F250, 5.0 with 70k miles is having a problem with the oil pressure. Cold
and at 1500-2000 rpm, the oil pressure is fine. As soon as I stop, the
pressure drops to 0 and the engine light comes on. There is not rattling
normally associated with no oil pressure and I am not low on oil. Could it
be the gauge, oil pump or worse?

If it is worse, how tough is it to put a 351 in place of this motor?

Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:49:48 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality

It's simple common sense. Clear tail light lens's are not reflective. Tail
lights must be reflective in case your car or truck in disabled on the side
of the road at night.

Scott

- -----Original Message-----
From: Michael R. Dunbar [SMTP:mdunbar vtc.vsc.edu]


Since we seem to be on the topic of legality, I was wondering what is the
deal with clear tail lenses? Living in Vermont you don't see too much of the
aftermarket / custom scene, however there are a few people around who trick
out their car or truck. I've seen one or two where they have clear tail
lenses, however, I've heard these are becoming illegal. Anyone know as to
why this is? Also, does this apply to those red/clear combo tail lenses? I
found a decent listing at Godfather Customs
(http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.godfathercustoms.com) and I was merely curious. Thanks!

Michael R. Dunbar
Technical Director, WVTC 90.7 FM
Vermont Technical College
Randolph Center, VT 05061
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:55:01 -0600 (CST)
From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 3 speed to 4 speed conversion

hey guys, does anyone know if the 4 speed auto overdrive tranny is a
direct swap for the 3 speed auto? i am going to be replacing the tranny
next week and since i do alot of highway driving, it only makes since to
put in the overdrive. the truck is an 85 f-150 300 inline 6. later....
David
85 F-150

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:21:12 -0600
From: "Sartorius, Rob C."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 84 F150 EGR

The EGR valve does not conect directly to the Carb, it should run through a
EGR solenoid set of two valves on
the side over the valve covers....that is what controls the application or
removal of vacumn to the
EGR valves....IF vacumn is applied all the time the EGR is constantly
opened....and that may be why you
get rough idle. The EGR valve is supposed to be closed at idle.

Rob Sartorius
Edmond, OK
sartrc questinternet.net


Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 09:07:28 EST
From: MRStace84 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 84 F150 EGR

Hello List,

I'm having a problem with my 84 F150 300 I6 and C6. It has a rough idle and

some hestitation with the pedal about 3/4 of the way to the floor. It has
vacuum leak problem written all over it, but I've checked and checked and
cannot find one. I've also retorqued my manifold bolts and checked the
timing. At this point I am suspecting the EGR valve. Do any of you know a
good way to test this. My Haynes manual says to use a vacuum pump, but I
don't have one. I was wondering if there was something obvious to look for.

Also the vacuum line going to the EGR valve is currently hooked to the
bottom
of the carburetor, is this correct. This carb does not have the feeback
control wiring or sensors on it.

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:45:08 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality

Well first of all, I would say that I will defend the right for you to
express your opinion on this list, but the attitude in which yoou express
that opinion is what I m addressing. Respect should be in mind when replying
to any post here. The comments about "thats plain DUMB" can be done without.
I happen to think that they look ok, and also depends on the way they are
done and how the rest of the vehicle looks. As far as coloring of the lenses,
I dont think that any aftermarket manufacturer can sell these for vehicles
unless they specify "for offroad or show use only, which none of the ads I
have seen in Truckin' or Sport Truck do.
Just my .02,
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
Wayne's Page
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:46:54 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality

In a message dated 12/2/99 11:32:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sgiddens ball.com writes:


lights must be reflective in case your car or truck in disabled on the side
of the road at night. >>
The lenses are reflective. They are the same material as the composite lenses
for the headlights.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
Wayne's Page
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:57:41 -0600
From: "Moore, Jimmy"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality

Wayne,

You are absolutely correct, and I sincerely apologize for my
inconsideration.

Jim Moore


- -----Original Message-----
From: FLR150 aol.com [mailto:FLR150 aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 10:45 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality


Well first of all, I would say that I will defend the right for you to
express your opinion on this list, but the attitude in which yoou express
that opinion is what I m addressing. Respect should be in mind when replying

to any post here. The comments about "thats plain DUMB" can be done without.

I happen to think that they look ok, and also depends on the way they are
done and how the rest of the vehicle looks. As far as coloring of the
lenses,
I dont think that any aftermarket manufacturer can sell these for vehicles
unless they specify "for offroad or show use only, which none of the ads I
have seen in Truckin' or Sport Truck do.
Just my .02,
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
Wayne's Page
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:01:15 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality

Clear reflective lens's are not red and not as visible. By definition clear
is transparent, light does not reflect well from clear lens's as it does
from colored lens's. If your life depended on it which one would you choose?

And since you misquoted me without including the part you misquoted to
improve your lie I will go ahead and tell you they are stupid and so is
anyone that uses them. They are the ones without any respect for safety and
the law.

Scott

- -----Original Message-----
From: FLR150 aol.com [SMTP:FLR150 aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 9:47 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of Legality

In a message dated 12/2/99 11:32:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sgiddens ball.com writes:


lights must be reflective in case your car or truck in disabled on the side
of the road at night. >>
The lenses are reflective. They are the same material as the composite
lenses
for the headlights.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
Wayne's Page
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:46:16 -0500
From: "Michael R. Dunbar"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Thanks for the opinions/facts (Clear Lenses)

Thanks for all the opinions/facts on the clear lens topic. I was merely
curious as having seen them once or twice and a lot in magazines. Personally
I couldn't justify the price, being a college student and all. Besides, it's
getting cold so I've got to change my oil and get a new set of front tires
before snow accumulates (Figure all of this is more worthwhile than spiffy
doodle tail lenses) By the way, any recommedations on how much weight I
should put in the back? Vermont doesn't get much snow until January and
February, typically have to deal with ice from time to time and sh*ty road
crews who A) don't clear the roads of snow until the last possible moment or
B) lay down the equivalent amount of sand as there is on most costal
beaches. Thanks again. I know I'm probably asking a lot of dumb questions,
but I'm new to the truck scene as of October, when I bought my 89 F-150 and
just want to know all that I can.

Michael R. Dunbar
Technical Director, WVTC 90.7 FM
Vermont Technical College
Randolph Center, VT 05061
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wvtc.net

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:11:19 -0500
From: "Perkins, James (Spokane)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bronco Seat

Do any of you Bronco owners know if a split back, bench seat with headrests
was commonly available in the Bronco? I have a '91 F150 Supercab with a
split back bench seat without headrests. Now that this truck is my daily
driver I feel very vulnerable if I were to get rear-ended. I have been
trying to find the factory 60/40 type highback seat with a fold down armrest
. Unfortunately, this seat was only available for a few years from Ford (my
understanding is '92-'96 in light duties and '92-98 in heavy duties) so it
is nearly impossible to find in a wrecking yard. I have also looked at the
high back bench seat which was offered in the non-supercab trucks for quite
a few years, but it isn't a split back and it doesn't tilt far enough
forward to offer access into the back seat area.

Yesterday it suddenly dawned on me (duh) that if Ford offered a high back
bench in the Bronco, that it would certainly work in a Supercab because both
have the same rear access issue. I assume (always dangerous) that it might
also be a direct fit since both trucks are built on the same basic platform.


So, can anybody help me out with some info here?

The other alternative I have found is a place in Elkhart, Indiana called
Truck & RV supply that sells an OEM version of the 60/40 seat from the
'97-up F150s that they have modified to fit other trucks as well. It is
$550 but that is cheaper than the aftermarket custom seats. Does anybody
have any info about this company or its products?

Thanks.

Jim Perkins
'91 F150 Supercab, 4X4, 351, E4OD
Spokane, WA


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Date: 2 Dec 99 10:28:33 PST
From: William Berninghausen
Subject: Re: [Re: FTE 80-96 - Class C Powerstroke?]

"ken haley" wrote:

> YOU can easily build your own rig better than the best factory workmans=
hip.

> Use good materials, measure thrice, Take your time, and don't monkey wi=
th =

> the engineering. =

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Ken:

Roger, copy all. Good sound advice. Local needs will probably take us t=
o the
Class A/C area; maybe my F100 would be a good dinghy. I'll just focus on=
Ford
chassis/diesel lines.

Hope everyone read and understood the distinction between design and
workmanship--it applies to what we do as well as what we pay for.

Interesting that the market leader, Fl**tw**d, leads in defects as well--=
the
more units output, the more garbage?

Thanks again,

Bill


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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:00:42 -0700
From: "Jim Flinchbaugh"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 3 speed to 4 speed conversion

- ----- Original Message -----
From: David Trowbridge
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 8:55 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 3 speed to 4 speed conversion


> hey guys, does anyone know if the 4 speed auto overdrive tranny is a
> direct swap for the 3 speed auto? i am going to be replacing the tranny
> next week and since i do alot of highway driving, it only makes since to
> put in the overdrive. the truck is an 85 f-150 300 inline 6. later....
> David
> 85 F-150
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Dave, bummer for Fords, All OD trans' are computer controlled and probably
won't go into OD or lock up the torque convertor, unless you are real
freindly with a competant trans shop , you wont have any luck , sorry for
the bad news ( i know gm can be made to operate hydralically (sp?) but I
dont think Fords can

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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:14:23 -0600
From: Andy Norris
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Is this legal?

In Kansas, and I imagine in some other states, as well, it is illegal for
anything other than an emergency vehicle to display any color other than
amber on the front. It is also illegal to display blue lights at all. Folks
who have old Ch57's with the little blue dot in the taillights get ticketed
for it.

Andy

At 12:48 AM 12/2/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>blinkers
> on the front, with red ones. Is this legal(in Georgia),and if so, does
> anyone know where I can get an accesory like this. Thanks in
> advance.---Nathan >>
> It's NOT legal....anywhere in the U.S. (and for good reason).
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:38:58 -0500
From: "Phil / Debi"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 3 speed to 4 speed conversion

> Dave, bummer for Fords, All OD trans' are computer controlled and
probably
> won't go into OD or lock up the torque convertor, unless you are real
> freindly with a competant trans shop , you wont have any luck , sorry for
> the bad news ( i know gm can be made to operate hydralically (sp?) but I
> dont think Fords can

The older AOD's were not computer controlled, not sure of years, but pulled
a 302 with AOD out of 81 T-Bird and dropped it into a mustang, no computer.
AODE were the ones controlled by computer, I believe.

Phil Beattie
66 F100
70 F100
79 F250 4x4
91 F150 4x4
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:15:00 -0500
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Welding on '90 with FI, Other Questions

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Velasquez
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 10:25 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Welding on '90 with FI, Other Questions


> I have some more questions regarding the '90 that I just picked up.
>
> It is a cab+chassis, and I've been looking at several options and have
> almost made up my mind to go with a flat bed. This will likely involve
> welding the bed on,

Welding on late model truck frames is NOT recommended. Twice I have seen
welded on hitches break off.
Although many 'professional' welders claim they can do a good job, they
can't. The frame rails are made of hardened steel these days. Any welding
will create a weak point at the weld. Also, unless you can get the bed and
frame welded absolutley rigid, there will be flexing. The welds will break
(as the trailer hitches did) after a certain amount of flexing. Your best
bet is to bolt the bed to the frame of the truck. There will be holes for
the job already there. The frame rails for the Chassis/Cab trucks are
ususlly "flat", meaning you can use pucks of the same height to isolate the
bed from the frame. With some of the larger trucks, a strip of wood is
placed between the rails and the underside of the bed, the bed is then
attached with U bolts ( or sometimes J bolts ).

Matt

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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:40:42 -0600
From: Andy Norris
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Transmission Fluid Change

Hi All...

I'm fixing to change the transmission fluid in my '89 F250. It's an
automatic, and I'm assuming it's a C6.

I've never changed the transmission fluid on an automatic. My Chilton's
relays the procedure as a pretty straight-forward operation, but I'm
thinking it's going to be a little bit of a messy Saturday afternoon. I've
got the transmission fluid, and a 15oz. can of TransX (thanks for the
suggestion, Smeck, here's hoping!), and the new gasket ready to go.

But I just wanted to hit the list up for any advice before I find myself on
my back under my truck covered with transmission fluid and a stupid look on
my face.

Is transmission fluid transmission fluid? Some better some worse? I picked
up the kind my truck calls for at O'Reilly... didn't spring for any fancy
names. Is this gonna be okay? Are there any things in particular I should
look at when I have it taken apart?

Also, Steve, is 15oz. enough? Or should I throw a whole quart in?

Thanks for any advice,

Andy Norris
...just waiting to drop into Drive, eh.

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:57:29 EST
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1988 FORD BRONCO XLT FOR SALE TRAIL READY!!

Hey guys this is a friend of mine... if you know anyone whose interested,
foard it to them. If you need pics, let me know and I'll get some for ya.

Thanks,

Joe
Lost in Jersey

1988 ford bronco xlt.......black and tan
INTERIOR:
3month old corbeau racing seats
tuffy security console( biggest one they make)
deep walled rubber floor mats and cargo liner
BIG LOCK BOX FOR CARGO AREA( full o goodies)
20% tint on all windows
EXTERIOR:
warn classic chrome bumper
warn 12,000 pound winch
bushwacker fender flares
smittybuilt nerf bars
fullsize spare on slightly modified tire carrier
Black with tan hard top!( some trail pin stripping and 2 small dents! :) )
DRIVETRAIN:
TTB DANA 44 FRONT.....4:10 and an ARB air locker( have arb compressor under
hood)
w/ warn premium hubs
FORD 8.8 with 4:10 and a detroit locker built 5/99
stock transfer case Borg-Warner
AOD transmission(under warranty) w/ jasper shift kit
Ford 302w/ MSD offroad box,crane coil, msd plugs,wires and distributor, K+N
filter
MOTOR AND TRANSMISSION UNDER WARRANTY WITH JASPER MOTORS!! installed
12/98.....about 22 k on motor and trans.
SUSPENSION:
Superlift 6" with superunner steering
new 6" rear springs from skyjacker( sway bar is off)
superlift springs in frontw/ superunner steering and radius arms
trailmaster, skyjacker and rancho shocks
CUSTOM front mounts to keep front front shocks off of coil springs
the truck is currently on a set of 35 dunlop RV's on 15x10 outlaw 2's!
TONS O EXTRA PARTS!!!!!
ARB LOCKER FOR REAR
precision 4:10 gears for rear
new axles for rear
OLD 4" trailmaster/ superlift lift
SHOCKS!
cobra CB w/ firestick!
rear shackle reciever for pullin jeeps!!LOL
BASSANI HIGH FLOW OFFROAD CAT PIPE!! claims of 25hp gains and that deep
throaty sound!!!!!!!!! NICE!!!!
3" body lift and gap covers ready to be installed!!
ALSO HAVE A STEREO I MIGHT THROW IN IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT!!

OVER 30K INVESTED!!!
I will sacrifice.....just got married ....need to grow up for a lil while
and pay of bills!!LOL
13,500 OR BEST OFFER!!
please forward to anybody you know, or any off road mailing List!!!

Ben Hynes
home....301-926-7813
work.....301-330-4900

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:09:10 -0600
From: "Steve Schmeckpeper"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Transmission Fluid Change

Andy, If you follow the instructions on the can, you can't go wrong 8^>
Smeck

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Norris
> Hi All...
I've got the transmission fluid, and a 15oz. can of TransX (thanks for the
suggestion, Smeck, here's hoping!), and the new gasket ready to go.
is 15oz. enough? Or should I throw a whole quart in?



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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 16:09:29 -0600
From: Andy Norris
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Transmission Fluid Change

>Also, Steve, is 15oz. enough? Or should I throw a whole quart in?
>
>Thanks for any advice,
>
>Andy Norris


I mean 15oz of TransX... not 15oz of trans fluid ;)

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:11:09 -0500
From: "Michael R. Dunbar"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Transmission Knocking?

Recently when working under my truck with the engine running, I noticed what
sounded like a mild knocking noise coming from the tranny. I haven't had the
chance to look into it, nor am I sure where to start. The clutch is fairly
new, only has about 3,500 miles on it. However, the truck is approaching
160k miles, I'm wondering if I need to change out the fluid in the tranny?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

Mike Dunbar
89 F-150 XLT Lariat Std. Cab, Long Bed
4.9L I-6, 5 spd manual transmission
White River Jct., Vermont

"Just remember, the wheel's spinning but the hamster's dead"

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 19:41:12 -0300
From: "RODERICK"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96 question about flowmaster

Does anyone know if there is any special manifold for a1994 6cil, 300ci
and if it there is any place that sells them in atlanta , .what happens with
the O2 sensor?
thank you very much

Rod
1994 flare side
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From: David Trowbridge
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 12:25 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96 question about flowmaster


> does anyone have a flowmaster on their 300 inline 6? is it just too
> loud, or do they give it a good low rumble. i have one in my garage
> right now and was thinking about taking the factory muffler off and
> installing the flowmaster. i just don't want it too loud on the
> highway. thanx...
>
> David
> 85 F-150
>
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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 17:08:26 -0800
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 3 speed to 4 speed conversion

I've got an '86 Bronco with an AOD, it's the best because it's not computer
controlled.

Bob


Jim Flinchbaugh wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Trowbridge
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 8:55 AM
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - 3 speed to 4 speed conversion
>
> > hey guys, does anyone know if the 4 speed auto overdrive tranny is a
> > direct swap for the 3 speed auto? i am going to be replacing the tranny
> > next week and since i do alot of highway driving, it only makes since to
> > put in the overdrive. the truck is an 85 f-150 300 inline 6. later....
> > David
> > 85 F-150
> >
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> Dave, bummer for Fords, All OD trans' are computer controlled and probably
> won't go into OD or lock up the torque convertor, unless you are real
> freindly with a competant trans shop , you wont have any luck , sorry for
> the bad news ( i know gm can be made to operate hydralically (sp?) but I
> dont think Fords can
>
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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 19:09:39 PST
From: "Christopher Worley"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ABS system

I have some type of problem with my ABS System or it could be just the
warning light circuit, when I start my truck (93 F150 351) the yellow ABS
light comes on and stays on. What I need to know is, shouldn't the light
come on at start then go off momentarily and re-light if there is a prob? Or
if it detects a failure does it stay constant and does not go off (hope I
haven't confused you). If it isn't supposed to stay on constantly does that
mean I have a prob with the warning lamp circut? HELP!!!!! I know you can
read the codes and I know how to do so, but I read somewhere that the light
is supposed to go off after the initial test and re-light if it found a
prob.


Chris



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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 20:08:12 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Class C Powerstroke?

>Any opinion on Sunline?
>
>I have an 87 Saturn that I bought used.
>....and they make them near here.
>

No comment.



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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 22:27:03 CST
From: "ben gerhold"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Ignition Switch

Drop the steering column and check the little gear right by the ignition
lock. It might have a little dirt on it. That happened to me once.

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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 21:17:34 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: [Re: FTE 80-96 - Class C Powerstroke?]

>Interesting that the market leader, Fl**tw**d, leads in defects as
>well--the
>more units output, the more garbage?
>
>Thanks again,
>
>Bill
>
Gee, sounds like General Mortars. ;)

Ken

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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 21:26:21 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96 question about flowmaster

>Does anyone know if there is any special manifold for a1994 6cil, 300ci

Okay, folks,

Back in the olden days there was a company called Clifford Research, or
maybe Clifford Engineering, that specialized in I-6 performance parts. Are
these folks still araound? A bud had a 48 Ford coupe with a built 300 in it,
and it ran pretty good.

Ken

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:24:25 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Is this legal?

>In Kansas, and I imagine in some other states, as well, it is illegal for
>anything other than an emergency vehicle to display any color other than
>amber on the front. It is also illegal to display blue lights at all. Folks
>who have old Ch57's with the little blue dot in the taillights get ticketed
>for it.
>

I wonder about those blue neon license plate frames? I have also seen blue
neon running boards.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."


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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:28:45 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Welding on '90 with FI, Other Questions

>Welding on late model truck frames is NOT recommended. Twice I have seen
>welded on hitches break off.
>Although many 'professional' welders claim they can do a good job, they
>can't. The frame rails are made of hardened steel these days. Any welding
>will create a weak point at the weld. Also, unless you can get the bed and
>frame welded absolutley rigid, there will be flexing. The welds will break
>(as the trailer hitches did) after a certain amount of flexing. Your best
>bet is to bolt the bed to the frame of the truck. There will be holes for
>the job already there. The frame rails for the Chassis/Cab trucks are
>ususlly "flat", meaning you can use pucks of the same height to isolate the
>bed from the frame. With some of the larger trucks, a strip of wood is
>placed between the rails and the underside of the bed, the bed is then
>attached with U bolts ( or sometimes J bolts ).

I don't think the guy was actually going to weld the bed to the frame. More
likely build up a flatbed out of channel iron and weld it together in place.

Truck frames can be welded if done properly, using low hydrogen rod, with
propper stress relieving. I don't recommend welding a leaf spring, but it
could be done.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:30:06 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Transmission Fluid Change

>Hi All...
>
>I'm fixing to change the transmission fluid in my '89 F250. It's an
>automatic, and I'm assuming it's a C6.
>

Be sure to drain the converter too, or you will miss changing most of it.


Blake
Little Mountain
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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 21:53:02 -0800
From: "S.Harkema"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - R/V

>4) People who fork over $40 000+ for a new motorhome rarely are the >type of folks who do their own maintenance, so they don't care about >accessibility.

Accessing the engine on my parents 91 Jayco M/H on Ford Econoline
chassis is a nightmare.
When my Dad calls and says"Motorhome seems to be running a little rough
can you come over and take a look?" I break into a sweat,chills run down
my spine etc.etc..You can't access hardly any thing from under the hood
and the glued down carpet goes over the bolts for the engine cover and
the huge captain's chairs make taking off the engine cover practically
impossible.There is also a oak console on top of the engine cover that
won't allow the cover to raise up far enough to come out easily.
Once the cover is off ,1/4 of the parts are accessible from inside 1/4
from underneath ,1/4 from up front and the other 1/4 a combo.
Glad it is a Ford so I rarely have to work on it.

>Not a single rig was
>without workmanship problems, and all were bought new. Some were >downright dangerous.


It has also been my family's experience that all RVs have workmanship
problems and the cheapest and the most expensive are the worst.
If you are buying new the dealer is probably more important than the
brand.A reputable dealer will go over the rig with a fine tooth comb
before delivery where as a crooked dealer will give it to you fresh off
the truck,take your money and possibly file bankruptcy before your
warranty expires have found RV dealers make car dealers look like saints
in regards to warranty work.



>They consider Jaycos and Rockwoods to have the best workmanship in the
>industry. They have "no comment" about all the Fleetwood brands


We have had good luck with Jayco and
Kit products.No comment on my old Fleetwood.
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