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80-96-list-digest Tuesday, November 30 1999 Volume 03 : Number 338

Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980-1996 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - AMP GAUGE
RE: FTE 80-96 - Gas tanks again
Re: FTE 80-96 - AMP GAUGE
Re: FTE 80-96 - What should I look for?
Re: FTE 80-96 - 460 swap
FTE 80-96 - Preventive maintenance: Replacing the timing chain, gears
FTE 80-96 - Sticking Idle
Re: FTE 80-96 - E40D slow to reverse
RE: FTE 80-96 - Tach?



Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:46:15 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - AMP GAUGE

Oh, and I almost forgot:

I have an old front-engine rail with a 427 OHC Ford engine, C6, and a
narrowed 9 inch. I have no idea who originally built the car or in what
year. All I've done is tune and maintain, and a couple sets of slicks over
the years. It runs mid-7s if thrashed, consistent mid-8s in E.T. brackets.


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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:46:54 -0600
From: "Harris, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Gas tanks again

Changing those intank pumps while you are there right? Be a bummer to
change the tanks out just to change the pumps next year.....just a

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From: S Spaulding [mailto:ss80xt]
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 7:26 PM
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Subject: FTE 80-96 - Gas tanks again

I ended up having to replace BOTH gas tanks, because both were rotted
out. The rear one was a b***h. I had to remove the class IV receiver,
the tire, and cut off the Dynomax tailpipes (sounds pretty good with the
pipes cut off 3" behind the muffler!). The spare tire doesn't look too
healthy... the rubber sort of bulges where it was in constant contact
with the gas.

I ended up just calling my NAPA guy to get the tanks, since I have an
account there, and I have no time to go shopping. The cost: $110 for
the rear, and $125 for the front, plus I bought new straps.

I guess it's time for the brake lines to start blowing. Time for some
black duct tape on the rear fenders, tailgate and hood, too.

Steve Spaulding
'91 F150 4x4 - getting lighter every day.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:47:42 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - AMP GAUGE

I've considered hauling manure wuith it.

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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:08:30 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - What should I look for?


Unless you get very lucky, $2500 won't buy much these days. sometimes
reality bites.

Alternative: Put a hitch and tranny cooler on your car, and pick up a
utility trailer sized to what your car can carry. This option is especially
attractive if you only haul occasionaly. I've seen trailers for that fold up
on casters and take very little room in the garage. Maybe $300 new. Your
insurance will cost that much on a truck.

I picked up a folding trailer at a yard sale for $50, bought 3 new tires for
$75, repacked the bearings, and still have it after 15 years. Back then I
pulled it with a 74 Duster, 225 slant 6. It carried a 1/2 ton load easily.
Now the kids use it to haul a john boat down to the pond and back with a 4

Save your bucks until you can get a real nice truck, then use the trailer to
keep from marring the truck.


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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:08:06 -0600
From: "Stephen W.Hansen"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 460 swap

Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:17:43 -0500
From: slikness
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 460 swap

> 1987 F150 has a 5.0. Want to swap to a 460. Is it worth doing? Or can itbe

>I believe the 460 (7.5?) was an option in the mid '80s so the swap should
be doable. The 460 is a big block >and will require different tranny (or at
least bell housing), different engine mounts, and nothing will swap from
>your 5.0 (like brackets to hold the A/C, altenator, and P.S. pump). You
may also want to check the >difference in weight and change out your front
coil springs. Another area to check is the location of the >tailshaft of
the new 460 combo. You may need to modify the drive shaft.

I don't think (I'm only guessing) that a 460 was an option on a 150
though... I've only seen them in 250's or larger. I would be real concerned
about the weight on the front-end
Stephen Hansen
92 F250
50 F-1

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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:34:44 -0600
From: "Stephen W.Hansen"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Preventive maintenance: Replacing the timing chain, gears

My brother-in-law just had some timing work done on his 300-6 (then burned
out #5 piston).
Anyway, it got me thinking. As more of our vehicles go over 100,000 miles,
(mine runs great still, 105,000) wouldn't it be a thought to change the
timing chain/gears before they go bad? Then in a truck magazine I read
somewhere it recommended to do just that. Consider how much stress is on
that area, and how important it is.
I decided that when I change my water pump (it's still original too) and I
take all the time to get into the area, all the brackets off to access it,
I'm going to go ahead and put a new gear/chain set in. As long as my truck
still has good oil pressure and compression, it may just keep it alive
Stephen Hansen
92 F250
50 F-1

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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 01:36:32 EST
From: Dom379
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Sticking Idle

I swaped an '89 fuel injected 351 into my '81. the engine I got was from an
automatic truck, so the computer is also. When I let off the gas the engine
idles down very slowly. Is this just a chacteristic of this motor or is it
because the computer is looking for an automatic trans? I lowered the idle so
it idles around 900 rmp with the clutch in.

'81 f150
'85 running gear
'89 engine
'89 interior
4 speed
BW 1345
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 01:45:00 -0500
From: "Theodore D. Mills"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - E40D slow to reverse

Thanks Victor, but as far as I know the Aerostars used the A4LD which is
what I have in my Ranger.

The E4OD is physically very large and I don't think it will fit an Aero....

Before the front seal blew, my Ranger was slow into reverse, but not as bad
as the F-250.
Since the rebuild, it goes into reverse quick and hard.

At 16:47 11/29/1999 -0500, you wrote:
> This might help you, I had a similar problem with my Aero* that I
>think has the E40D.
> If what you are expiereicne is:
>1)you have to wait about 1-2 seconds when you put it in reverse
>2)the car gets a small kick (such that if you don't put your foot on the
>brakes, it will jump when it finally kicks in)
> Remember, that I'm not positive if I have a E40D, alhought I am
>almost positive, someone on the list can surely tell me how to check my
>van or will just know.
> Victor.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:01:48 -0800
From: Chris McKinnon
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Tach?

> Well your problem is that funky smelling butane on the truck, take it all
>off and all of your life's problems will disappear. Yes sir, that's stuff's
>for BBQing not for driving.
> Just yoking man, don't throw any punches yet, I bruise easy.

You just gave me an idea. If I hook a BBQ to my propane tank I can grill ad
drive! I guess I could always have a hot lunch. I'd hate to think what it
would cost to run my truck on gas, even at 45.3c/L (Thats about 2.50 a
gallon for you metricly challenged) That price is very low and will go back
up to 60-70c/L soon.

> Couple of question regarding your tach (tak?); Is this the factory tak or
>an aftermarket one? If its aftermarket how long has it been installed and
>did it ever work correctly? I ask because we (Autotronic - MSD) have had to
>develop a tach adapter for some very peculiar behavior just as you described
>it. But these involved aftermarket and factory tachs with some of our
>ignitions and products.
> Is your ignition system stock or have you done modifications? Sorry about
>all the questions, but inquiring minds want to know.

The Tach is stock and the ignition is a Ford TFI-IV. I don't think is is
stock but it could be. Does anyone know when Ford brought out the TFI-IV system?

> Another Ford propaner on this list, watch out guys;
> we are gaseous,
> you will assimilate,
> resistance is futile,
'84 F150
351W on propane
NP 435
NP 208
281K Km

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