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80-96-list-digest Monday, November 22 1999 Volume 03 : Number 329



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - shocks
FTE 80-96 - Re: Dual to Single Shock Set-up
FTE 80-96 - 81 Vacuum Schematics, I6 300
FTE 80-96 - Re: wrist pin and piston wall oiling
FTE 80-96 - Air lift bags to solve sag
Re: FTE 80-96 - Air lift bags to solve sag
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: wrist pin and piston wall oiling
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: wrist pin and piston wall oiling
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: wrist pin and piston wall oiling
Re: FTE 80-96 - Air lift bags to solve sag
FTE 80-96 - Re: Carburetor Jetting
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: wrist pin and piston wall oiling
FTE 80-96 - Clunking Noise
Re: FTE 80-96 - Air lift bags to solve sag
FTE 80-96 - How much is too much mileage..
FTE 80-96 - New To List / Questions

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:26:29 -0600
From: "Joel Thomas"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - shocks

I wrote in about the shocks on my dual setup I took off the front one and it
rides
considerably better , actually tons better hardly any bouncing at all just
glides over the bumps now.
and they are the gabriels.

thanks for the help.. :)

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:27:02 -0800
From: Joan and Walt Posluszny
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Dual to Single Shock Set-up

Joel, you can do this, I have an 85 with the dual shock set-up. I switched
to one a shock set -up but there are a few caveats....let me explain.

You have to get new shocks, ones that were designed for the normal single
shock set-up so they have the correct damping and rebound characteristics.
Just removing one of the existing two will screw up the handling
characteristics. They are not designed to work alone and will be so soft
they are downright dangerous. I know because I tried this at first. A
drive around the block will be enough to convince you.

This new shock will go in the rear position.

Depending on which shocks you buy (and this is like flavors of ice cream),
the new ride with just one shock can be softer or harder than the previous
ride with two shocks, so choose wisely.

Bottom Line : The type of shock you choose has more of an effect on ride and
handling than the number of shocks used. Been there, done that.

Walt

>
> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 09:06:41 -0600
> From: "Joel Thomas"
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Shocks
>
> I have dual front shock on my 84 F-150
> can I take one shock out to make it ride better?
> and which one should i take front or rear on the front??
> thanks
> right now it rides real stiff and i have ridden in one shock 4x4's like mine
> and they ride much better..
> any help?

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:45:22 -0800
From: "robert moffatt"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 81 Vacuum Schematics, I6 300

"Moore, Jimmy" wrote:
Robert,

I don't have an answer on your question about the vacuum hose, but I do have
a question for you about your '81 F150 300 Six. Do you have the vacuum
schematic, and if so, can you either A: email or fax a copy of it, or B:
send a copy of it in the mail? I have received one for an '80 and an '82,
but neither is the same.

Thanks
Jim
Oklahoma City
1981 Ford F-150 300 Six

Jimmy, I can try to copy the schematic.

1. My first thought is to make sure that it's the correct schematic. Inside
the door frame of the truck, the label states that the vehicle was
manufactured 9/81. But the registration says that it is an 82. I just went
outside to take a better look at the emissions tag and it says that this
vehicle conforms to standards set for the 1982 model year, and further that
it is for sale only in California. At the bottom left hand corner of the
tag it says, "E2AE-9C485-AJT". Sorry about the oversight. Especially if I
went and put the wrong cam in my engine. (I'll post this to the Ford Truck
list also just in case any body else has some input. I'm also still trying
to figure out how to get my email program setup straight so I want to see
how the message posts.)

2. If it is the correct schematic (I doubt it at this point but let's see)
I'll would try to take a picture of it and email it to you. I might be able
to find someone with a digital camera to help me. If not I could take a
couple of regular film pictures, then scan them on a digital scanner. My
schematic is in color and I think it would be important to you in reading
it.

3. I'm also going to try to see what I can find on the Ford website. I've
tried this before and got a dead-end, but I'll keep trying. After checking,
it seems that Ford has the info available on CD. I didn't see any price
info. I do remember a friend saying that he went to a local ford dealer to
get the emissions schematics for his car, you might try that. I don't think
that they charged him too much. I'll keep trying to see if I can find any
free info online.

4. I just realized yesterday that there is a message board at
http://www.ford-trucks.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=80_96 .
It seems that this is separate from the email list. Is this correct?
What's the difference, should I post questions both places...?


I'LL ALSO RE-POST THE MY ORIGINAL QUESTION IN THE HOPE THAT SOMEONE CAN
HELP...

- -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Moffatt [mailto:robertmoffatt usa.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 2:38 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com; MooreJ zymetx.com
Subject: 81 (or 82 ?) 4.9 L six cylinder

I'm having trouble finding where one of the vacuum hose goes to. This is a
California vehicle. The hose in question is a yellow hose (this truck has a
number of different colored hoses). As best i can make out from the
emissions diagram in the vehicle, the hose should run from the distributor
advance (just passed a couple of splits to somewhere else) to a port on the
carburetor. The port is labeled "s" on the diagram between a black hose (to
port "3") and a white hose (to port "E"). I've located the other two hoses
but i don't see a connector for this last yellow hose. I acquired this
truck after the engine overheated so i don't know if this is the original
carburetor but the tag is still on it so I can probably find out. I did not
remove the carburetor from the manifold or any of the vacuum hoses (that I
did not note before detaching) when overhauling the engine. I left the
assembly in the engine compartment. I'm not sure if this hose was actually
ever mounted before i removed the engine or got yanked when working on it.
Can anyone give any advice?

thank's in advance. robert.


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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 10:36:36 -0800
From: Joan and Walt Posluszny
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: wrist pin and piston wall oiling

How do the wrist pins and the piston walls actually get oiled? Thanks

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:00:29 -0500
From: "Jeff Fairbairn"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Air lift bags to solve sag

Hi,

Does anyone have experience with those air bags in the front coils? The
front springs in my '96 F-150 4x4 are starting to sag and I was wondering if
this would cure it. I was also thinking of adding a leaf in the back
springs. Will this give me about an inch of lift?

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:51:14 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Air lift bags to solve sag

>Hi,
>
>Does anyone have experience with those air bags in the front coils? The
>front springs in my '96 F-150 4x4 are starting to sag and I was wondering if
>this would cure it. I was also thinking of adding a leaf in the back
>springs. Will this give me about an inch of lift?
>


I put air bags in the front of my 88 F-150 for snowplowing. Those darned
swing axle front ends change camber with load so you just about have to.

I have a pretty heavy BOSS plow. I put about 40 - 50 psi in the bags when
the plow is on. Let it down to about 10 psi with no plow. The bag people
don't recomment going less than 10 or they may wrinkle up and get caught in
the coils.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:55:36 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: wrist pin and piston wall oiling

At 10:36 21/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
>How do the wrist pins and the piston walls actually get oiled? Thanks
>

Oil splash and spray out of crankshaft.


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!"
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:19:58 -0600
From: Mike Persell
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: wrist pin and piston wall oiling

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
> At 10:36 21/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >How do the wrist pins and the piston walls actually get oiled? Thanks
> >
>
> Oil splash and spray out of crankshaft.

Makes you want to make sure those little holes are lined up in the rod bearings!

Mike
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:02:32 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: wrist pin and piston wall oiling

There are oil passages from the main bearing journals to the main bearings,
through the crank to the rod bearings through the rods to the wrist pins.

The cylinder walls are oiled by splash.

Ken

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:07:57 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Air lift bags to solve sag

>Hi,
>
>Does anyone have experience with those air bags in the front coils? The
>front springs in my '96 F-150 4x4 are starting to sag and I was wondering
>if
>this would cure it. I was also thinking of adding a leaf in the back
>springs. Will this give me about an inch of lift?

Airbags are a good idea for beefing sagging springs, or providing ride
height restoration in loaded vehicles. A hose system that allows filling
both bags at once is convenient, but be sure to add a valve in the lines
somewhere to prevent body lean from forcing air from one bag to another,
which will make the lean worse, which forces more air, which....

Some add-a-leafs increase ride height only the thickness of the leaf, some
increase the arch of the original spring--depends on the design. Check
before you buy.

Ken

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:21:27 -0800
From: Joan and Walt Posluszny
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Carburetor Jetting

If I want to richen the fuel mixture during part throttle [1,500 rpm and up]
on a 1985 carbureted 351W should I [1] go with bigger jets ? or [2] go with
a power valve that opens sooner [at a lower vacuum]?

[3] What percent more fuel will I get if I go up one jet size?

[4] Anyone know what the stock jets were in a carb on a 1985 351W with the
following carb tag?

E5TE
PA
G or C 4JI4

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Walt

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:25:57 -0500
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: wrist pin and piston wall oiling

> There are oil passages from the main bearing journals to the main
bearings,
> through the crank to the rod bearings through the rods to the wrist pins.
>
> The cylinder walls are oiled by splash.
>
> Ken
Not really. The rods are solid. There is often a spray hole in the "big
end" of the rod that directs oil to the underside of the piston, otherwise
the piston, cylinder walls and wrist pin are all oiled by oil splashed up or
flung off the spinning crank.

Matt



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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:42:36 PST
From: "Christopher Worley"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Clunking Noise

Greetings,
My '93 F-150 SC 351 is making a clunking noise everytime I hit the brakes,
seems to be coming from the front, I haven't had time to check it very good.
Was wondering if anyone has an idea what I should check when I do jack it
up to take a look.


TIA,

Chris Worley
Waxahachie, TX

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 21:55:15 -0600
From: Mike Persell
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Air lift bags to solve sag

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >

> Airbags are a good idea for beefing sagging springs, or providing ride
> height restoration in loaded vehicles. A hose system that allows filling
> both bags at once is convenient, but be sure to add a valve in the lines
> somewhere to prevent body lean from forcing air from one bag to another,
> which will make the lean worse, which forces more air, which....

How many airbags for too much good holiday cooking?

Mike
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:59:41 EST
From: craig n eggerman
Subject: FTE 80-96 - How much is too much mileage..

You can expect a lot of the rotating external parts to give up in the
100,00-150,000 miles range. These are the water pump, alternator, idle
pulley bearings, power steering pump, ujoints, clutch, smog pump if there
is one. If you feel comfortable replacing these as they give out, no
problems. Check the work tickets, some of this may already have been
done.
Engine internals with reasonable maintenance and non-severe service will
easily go 200,000 miles before it may be time for an engine overhaul,
axle rebuild, transmission rebuild.

If the belts are cracked replace them. If hoses are not soft and pliable
replace them. Look very closely at any high pressure hose for signs of
leaks or cracks. One problem area that I especially look for are problems
with hoses on the transmission cooler lines. These little buggers are out
of sight and out of mind. A break in one of these can be a real problem.
I found one on a Toy** Corolla this summer next to the exhaust that was
brittle and cracked when flexed.
Eggerman juno.com
Casper,Wyoming
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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:15:07 -0700
From: "Jim Velasquez"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - New To List / Questions

Greetings!

I've been subscribed to the list for a few days, and should probably
introduce myself.

My name is Jim Velasquez, and as I write this I'm 1/2 way through driving
my 1st Ford Truck home to Colorado after buying it from a friend in MI. Up
until now I've only owned a couple of Fords, both Mustangs.

Some quick questions:

Can anyone on the list help decode this VIN: 2FDLF47G8LCA64012 ?

The Truck is a big Dually, which I presume was manufactured as a Cab+Chassis
because up until I bought it there was a huge toolbox on the back. (Toolbox
was removed prior to sale to go on a new truck) The Badges on the fenders
....


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