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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Re: the spammer
Re: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...
FTE 80-96 - Bigger tires/Gearing
Re: FTE 80-96 - Excessive crankcase pressure
Re: FTE 80-96 - Bigger tires/Gearing
FTE 80-96 - New Thread--On-line Maps
FTE 80-96 - Gas tanks
Re: FTE 80-96 - Power steering pump Seal Kit
FTE 80-96 - Clunking transfer case...1356E
Re: FTE 80-96 - New Thread--On-line Maps
Re: FTE 80-96 - New Thread--On-line Maps
Re: FTE 80-96 - '84 F-150 Carb problems.
Re: FTE 80-96 - New Thread--On-line Maps
FTE 80-96 - F-150 2" receiver up front?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Excessive crankcase pressure
Re: FTE 80-96 - Bigger tires/Gearing
Re: FTE 80-96 - New Thread--On-line Maps
Re: FTE 80-96 - Gas tanks
Re: FTE 80-96 - Gas tanks

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:04:50 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: the spammer

>Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:01:34 -0600
>From: Jim Cannon
>Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...
>
>As I recall, he set up a temporary Hotmail address for this little
>exercise, so he will just ignore that address and let the mail pile up.
>Eventually Hotmail will kill the account, but only after he has tied up a
>few megs of disk space with all these messages.

Actually, I set up his subscription to forward to his account
listed on his web site. No use in punishing Hotmail. I only
left him subscribed for 1.5 days, I figured 300+ emails were
enough. Fortunately, this guy isn't sophisticated enough to
know about address harvesting. It was just some clown running
a "business" out of his apartment.

Ken

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:12:05 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...

> >
>
>But in the meantime he is now able to get all our email addresses to add to
>his stash.

No...... this is not that type of spammer. This is some clown
running his "business" out of his apartment. He can't even
afford a hit and run spam relay service or an email address
CD. He was spamming mailing lists because it was the easiest
way for him to spam. I had a few emails exchanged with him
before I decided on a course of action. Since we effectively
block out about a dozen spammers per day, I've gotten to
know very well the levels of spammers and what they can do.

Anyway, I only left him there for a little over a day.

>That's OK, I used some highly sophisticated tracking software and found out
>where he lives. Today I took one of the axle shafts out of my F-250, went
>over to his house, and beat him to death with it...

I have his apartment address and a map to it (www.mapquest.com
is great!).

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 06:44:36 -0800
From: "Kevin Crandall"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bigger tires/Gearing

I need some help guys. I have a 94 F-150 XCab XLT, 4.9L, Mazda 4 speed W/OD,
2WD, 4" Cepek lift, 2" body lift, and 31X10.5X15 T/A's, my question is this:
I want to put in 4:11 gears and run 33X12.5X15 tires, how will this affect
the computer (if at all), and would it drive OK with the 31's till I can get
the 33's. Currently the rear end is stock with 3:55 gears in it. I know the
speedometer would need to be recalibrated. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Kevin Crandall
94 F-150

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 10:36:10 EST
From: FULSZBRONC aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Excessive crankcase pressure

blake little-mountain.com writes:

much spark advance and too much cylinder pressure due to a too mild cam.
This obviously caused massive blowby. Blake >>


How does too much cylinder pressure cause a burned piston? and how does a
cam cause excessive cylinder pressure?
I thought holes in pistons mostly were caused by incorrect ignition timing
and/or lean air/fuel mixtures (i.e. vacuum leaks). Incorrect cam selection
can be a factor in piston wear?

Alex

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 07:58:52 -0800
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Bigger tires/Gearing

Well aside from the speedo being off running 33" tires will not have any
adverse affects on the EEC computer. However with the OD and the 3.55 gears
you will be in a very low RPM range while in OD, so expect to downshift alot
for hills.

Rade Spasojevic -- rspasoje mindspring.com
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From: Kevin Crandall
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, November 14, 1999 6:41 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bigger tires/Gearing


>I need some help guys. I have a 94 F-150 XCab XLT, 4.9L, Mazda 4 speed
W/OD,
>2WD, 4" Cepek lift, 2" body lift, and 31X10.5X15 T/A's, my question is
this:
>I want to put in 4:11 gears and run 33X12.5X15 tires, how will this affect
>the computer (if at all), and would it drive OK with the 31's till I can
get
>the 33's. Currently the rear end is stock with 3:55 gears in it. I know the
>speedometer would need to be recalibrated. Any help would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Kevin Crandall
>94 F-150
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:30:58 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - New Thread--On-line Maps

Mr. Payne gave us the URL for MapQuest http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mapquest.com/

MapQuest is one of the best international mapping services. In the United
States MapsOnUs, http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.MapsOnUs.com/ (uppercase letters belong there),
has a few advantages and disadvantages. I've found MapsOnUs more accurate
when dealing with routing instructions and one-way roads than MapQuest.
MapsOnUs also shows unimproved roads more often than MapQuest, but neither
is as good as USGS topo maps.

Both mapping sites are good, but for different needs. You'll find their maps
more current than most you can buy, and (especially for MapsOnUs) zoomable
to 0.2 miles/inch for detail work. With a bit of work in a good draw
program, you can print maps to 0.4 inches/mile with good clarity. At this
scale, the maps reveal which side of a street a particular address is on.
MapsOnUs actually shows the old logging road that leads to my "place for
solitude" in the North Carolina mountains. The road leads nowhere but to my
place. My parents drive, also an old logging road, is not shown. I think
MapsOnUs uses satellite or aircraft mapping, because the unimpoved roads
they show tend to run along and over ridges and in wide bottoms, those roads
not shown tend to run in the narrower valleys.

MapQuest is much faster than MapsOnUs, with shortcuts to major city maps.

Anyone have more on-line map sources?

Ken

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:49:40 -0500
From: S Spaulding
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Gas tanks

Anyone price gas tanks lately? I need a front tank for a '91 F150. I
tried AutoZone, but they don't sell them.

I haven't pulled the tank out yet (it's full, of course), but I am
assuming it will be too porous to patch.

Steve
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:55:07 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Power steering pump Seal Kit

At 12:05 13/11/99 -0800, Eric wrote:
> It looks like I need to replace the seals on my power steering pump.
>Has anyone done this, and if so what tools are required ? is this a
>difficult job ?

The PS pump seal on my '63 Riviera was leaking. The new seal was about $10.
It took me about 20 minutes to remove old one, install new one. I was very
pleased with myself. Rebuilt PS pump was about $40, but only the seal was
leaking -- the rest of the pump was OK.

Getting the old seal out without scratching the pump shaft or damaging the
bearing was the only hard part. I tried drilling two small holes in the
metal face of the seal and screwing a couple of small sheetmetal screws in,
then prying the seal out. The screws pulled out. Then I just started
working on the seal with a small chisel and a front wheel bearing grease
seal puller that I had here. That and a screwdriver got it out.

When installing new seal, put masking tape over shaft threads to protect
rubber lip of seal. Wet rubber seal with fresh PS fluid and slip it on. Tap
down with deep socket until top of seal is flush with pump housing.


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!"
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:42:31 EST
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Clunking transfer case...1356E

Just testing out my systems before winter get's here and found that my
T-case is clunking pretty loudly when put into 4Lo. This is without the hubs
locked and the trans in Neutral. It actually bangs loud enough and hard
enough for the truck to shake a little. The trans has 70K on it and the case
has 108k, but is only used in the winter, and even then, the winters here
aren't nearly what they used to be. I also use it off road about 6 times a
year. Anyone have a similar problem? Ever hear of such a problem? The
fluid only has about 4k on it and it's full. Tomorrow I'm gonna grab one of
my neighbors and watch what happens when it's put into gear.

Thanks guys...

Joe
Lost in jersey
92F150 302 AOD 1356E D44 8.8 33" BFG M/T
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:24:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Woods
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - New Thread--On-line Maps

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, ken haley wrote:
> Anyone have more on-line map sources?

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://edcwww.cr.usgs.gov/Webglis/glisbin/search.pl?MAPS_LARGE

Click on "Draw Area on Map" under the Geographic Coverage heading.


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kwoods kens.com

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:47:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Woods
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - New Thread--On-line Maps

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Ken Woods wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, ken haley wrote:
> > Anyone have more on-line map sources?
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://edcwww.cr.usgs.gov/Webglis/glisbin/search.pl?MAPS_LARGE
> Click on "Draw Area on Map" under the Geographic Coverage heading.

There's also these maps, which are really cool:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.topo.com/explore_topo/index.html

Example map:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.topo.com/explore_topo/actual.html


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kwoods kens.com

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:06:29 -0500
From: "Michael McCarthy"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '84 F-150 Carb problems.

The fast idle after start is normal. What is actually happening is that the
computer is checking out the system by advancing the timing on startup. It
isn't a carb problem. Turning off the key and restarting the truck is used
to eliminate the fast idle start up when checking the computer and is also
normal.
The hesitation seems to be a problem that a lot of us are dealing with in
varying degrees. I screwed around with my carb for a long time only to
discover that I had a problem with the emission control system. Actually,
several problems. Stuck EGR valve, vacuum leaks and bad valves in the heated
air intake system. Maybe checking on other things instead of sticking with
the carb is the next step.

Michael McCarthy
Export, PA

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From: Troy
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 8:33 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '84 F-150 Carb problems.


I have an '84 F-150 double barrel carb perched on top of a wonderful
302 that seems to need an attitude adjustment.

When I first bought the truck about a year and a half ago, the thing
was running rich, buddy said the power valve was busted, so we
went and did a rebuild on it.

Things were fine for a while until the choke thermostat broke. Put
a new choke thermostat on the truck, re-adjusted the choke, and
then re-adjusted the carb on the truck.

Ever since then I'm having a small problem with the truck. I can go
out there and press the gas all the way to the floor, release, start
the truck and it'll fast idle for a few seconds, then dwindle down.
Pressing the gas to the floor again, releasing, and turning the key
remedies this problem. I don't think this is normal though.

Another problem is if I drive the truck for a period of time, say 15 or
20 minutes, then let it sit for a little while, say a half hour, and then
try to start it again, I usually end up having to press the gas all the
way to the floor and hold it to get the truck started again, almost as
if the carb is flooding itself out. Sometimes it will do this and
sometimes it won't.

My final complaint, when I leave work a lot of the time when it is
cooler out in the early evenings, I can start the truck, let it go
through the fast idle for a minute or two, and then put it in gear and
take off. The problem is that I have to baby the truck as it will bog
down and often stall. This isn't a major problem, but it has become
quite an annoyance.

I have fought round after round with the carb, tried using the carb
cleaner on it, re-adjusting it, the truck will run fine for a few weeks
and start acting up again.

Is this a problem common with Ford pickups, or is this just a bug
in mine somewhere? Another problem that I should look for that
might cause these annoyances? I'm getting really frustrated and
I'm considering replacing the carb.

Thanks for any advice.



You might be a redneck if... You get your oil changed by your barber.
- - Jeff Foxworthy


Troy Williams
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:05:20 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - New Thread--On-line Maps

Ken,

Thanks for the source for maps.

Ken

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:35:53 -0500
From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F-150 2" receiver up front?

Hey All,

My fishing habit seems to have gotten the better of me, and the shortbox
on the truck requires a new way of carrying the rods. I built myself a nice
little rack to mount to the front of the truck and am currently trying to
decide on how to mount it.
The easiest way seems to be to remove the license plate and use the
existing holes in the bumper to pass some long bolts through. Simple
enough, but I'd like something a little more temporary. (I like the look of
my truck without a big rack hanging off the front of it.) I was thinking of
putting a 2" receiver on the front. I've heard of people doing it with the
"bigger" Fords, but was curious if it would cause a problem with an F-150.
Since I don't plan on putting much weight on it, I don't think there should
be any issues, but I've been wrong too many times before to assume so much.
It's a '95 F150 4x4, 302, E4OD.
Thanks in advance for any advice!

- -Mike


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:59:29 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Excessive crankcase pressure

>blake little-mountain.com writes:
>
> much spark advance and too much cylinder pressure due to a too mild cam.
> This obviously caused massive blowby. Blake >>
>
>
>How does too much cylinder pressure cause a burned piston? and how does a
>cam cause excessive cylinder pressure?
>I thought holes in pistons mostly were caused by incorrect ignition timing
>and/or lean air/fuel mixtures (i.e. vacuum leaks). Incorrect cam selection
>can be a factor in piston wear?
>

Too much compression and too mild of a cam will create high cylinder
pressures. I did not know this until my engine failure and learned from a
professional engine building friend. Too much BMEP (brake mean effective
pressure) is created; this can do a lot of damage to internal engine
components.

I was running 10:1 forged pistons with a 268 duration cam. From my friend's
recommendations, I went to a 292 duration cam with the same compression. I
never had any more pressure problems and had a very strong running engine.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
"Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:50:56 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Bigger tires/Gearing

>Well aside from the speedo being off running 33" tires will not have any
>adverse affects on the EEC computer. However with the OD and the 3.55 gears
>you will be in a very low RPM range while in OD, so expect to downshift alot
>for hills.
>

My truck is in the situation with 33s and 3.55:1 gears and performs fine.
It wants to cruise at 75, and yes I have to downshift on some hills, but it
is not uncomfortable to drive. 4.11 would be a better choice all around.

Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
"Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:03:24 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - New Thread--On-line Maps

>Mr. Payne gave us the URL for MapQuest http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mapquest.com/
>
>MapQuest is one of the best international mapping services. In the United
>States MapsOnUs, http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.MapsOnUs.com/ (uppercase letters belong there),
>has a few advantages and disadvantages. I've found MapsOnUs more accurate

Wow I like it. It is quick loading and even my driveway is on there!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://MapsOnUs.switchboard.com/bin/maps-maponly/usr=~382fb028.206cb.54ec.9/c=1/
isredir=1/


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
"Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:04:29 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Gas tanks

>Anyone price gas tanks lately? I need a front tank for a '91 F150. I
>tried AutoZone, but they don't sell them.
>
>I haven't pulled the tank out yet (it's full, of course), but I am
>assuming it will be too porous to patch.
>

I think I paid $80 for one here locally.

Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
"Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:04:26 -0400
From: "Jim Grant"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Gas tanks

Hi Guy!

I"ve got a 91 F150 and just replaced one here in Canada (East Coast) and it
was $125.00 CDN. So that appears to be in line. Apparently there may be some
advantages to having the original coated with some super dooper stuff. I've
heard it amy be a little cheaper.

Jim
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From: Blake Malkamaki
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: November 15, 1999 03:16
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Gas tanks


>>Anyone price gas tanks lately? I need a front tank for a '91 F150. I
>>tried AutoZone, but they don't sell them.
>>
>>I haven't pulled the tank out yet (it's full, of course), but I am
>>assuming it will be too porous to patch.....


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