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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - RE: Online Survey & rough running/pinging
FTE 80-96 - Re: Intake Reseal - Thanks!
Re: FTE 80-96 - gearbox
Re: FTE 80-96 - no cruise
Re: FTE 80-96 - gearbox
FTE 80-96 - Power steering pump Seal Kit
FTE 80-96 - Excessive crankcase pressure
FTE 80-96 - The spammer...
Re: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Online Survey & rough running/pinging
Re: FTE 80-96 - re: Bigger Tires
FTE 80-96 - '84 F-150 Carb problems.
Re: FTE 80-96 - re: Bigger Tires
Re: FTE 80-96 - gearbox
Re: FTE 80-96 - Excessive crankcase pressure
Re: FTE 80-96 - gearbox
Re: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...
Re: FTE 80-96 - re: Bigger Tires
Re: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...
Re: FTE 80-96 - Excessive crankcase pressure
Re: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:41:55 -0600
From: "Stephen W.Hansen"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Online Survey & rough running/pinging

Dave,
What kind of welding you doing, OX-ACE, Mig, or arc? For my birthday, my
parents bought me one of those "auto dimming welding helmets" (the same
brand from Eastwood). I know they are quite pricey (250$ to 270$ for mine),
but just the helmet improved my welding ability by 50%. (don't ask how I got
those figures) I no longer have to concentrate on pre-setting up positions
or loosing the arc and loosing the spot. I had to weld a washer into a hole
on the side of the bed of my truck. I couldn't clamp it in to start due to
the location. Welder grounded, washer in pliers in left hand, hood on and
down, mig ready in right. Held washer in place, tacked it in and welded it
together. My mind boggled with how difficult it would have been without it.
It really helps us amateur welders
Stephen Hansen
92 F250
50 F-1
ICQ 351682

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:20:16 -0500
From: "Mark Salvetti"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Intake Reseal - Thanks!

Thanks to everyone who chipped in some ideas on my reseal.

Smeck, I have been using Kroil. Usually works great, and it may eventually
work this time too.

Blake, I forgot about the beeswax trick. Thanks!

Scott, thanks for the idea about gluing the end seals.

And Ken, you're right, the oil change is cheap insurance. My Dad always
used to tell me not to use Frams. Looks like the old tribal knowledge thing
worked. I always use Motorcrafts.

Thanks again! I'll let you know how it goes.

Mark Salvetti
1986 F150

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:44:31 -0500
From: "Phil / Debi"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - gearbox

>
> If a ZF bolts up to a 351 Windsor, will it bolt right up to a 302?

Yes, they are the same engine family. It should also bolt up to a 300 6cyl.
They share the same bolt pattern.

Is the ZF trans alot stronger than the mazda 5 speed? Does anyone know the
gear ratios of the trans? I am considering replacing my mazda trans with it,
if it is geared better for towing.

Phil Beattie
66 F100
79 F250 4x4
91 F150 4x4
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:48:31 -0500
From: John DeMarco
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - no cruise

Dan,

I had a similar problem with my cruise and I found out from a friend
that if the vacuum hose to the carb is leaking or off it will affect the
cruise. He was right and a new hose solved the problem. My van was
running rough but the cruise stopped working before the roughness was
real bad.


hirisrider wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I noticed that my cruise control stopped working a couple weeks ago.

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:18:01 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - gearbox

>>
>> If a ZF bolts up to a 351 Windsor, will it bolt right up to a 302?
>
>Yes, they are the same engine family. It should also bolt up to a 300 6cyl.
>They share the same bolt pattern.
>
>Is the ZF trans alot stronger than the mazda 5 speed? Does anyone know the
>gear ratios of the trans? I am considering replacing my mazda trans with it,
>if it is geared better for towing.
>

I have been trying to determine this for almost a year now. I think the ZFs
may have different gear ratios available. What the Mazda really really
needs is a lower first and reverse gear. Unless you have low range
available, they are darned near impossible to back a trailer. First is also
too high to plow snow and difficult to start on hills or manuever slowly
over ruts and rough ground, pulling a hay wagon, etc.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:05:49 -0800
From: Eric Sneed
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Power steering pump Seal Kit

It looks like I need to replace the seals on my power steering pump.
Has anyone done this, and if so what tools are required ? is this a
difficult job ?

Any info will be appreciated

Eric
89 F150 L6
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:54:06 -0600
From: "Stephen W.Hansen"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Excessive crankcase pressure

Doing a bit of trouble shooting for my brother-in-law. He has a 84 F-250 4wd
with a 300-6 cyl. This last week while hunting it died. He took it to the
nearest Ford dealership and they told him the camshaft/timing was shot. They
put in a new cam, lifters and gears. 1200 dollars later he was back hunting.
It ran OK around the camp, and he towed his camper home. As he got closer to
home (about 4 hours) it was running rougher. He did make it home, but when
he opened his air filter LOTS of oil in there. He replaced the PCV valve,
but there is so much pressure in their that it actually popped the valve out
of the valve cover.
Now I know that bad rings can cause "blow-by" But it doesn't add up that
there wasn't a problem with it before the cam replacement; and why do some
bad rings cause blow-by and others make an engine smoke? (There isn't any
smoke from the tailpipe?)
What are some of the other causes of excessive crank case pressure?
Could the dealership have screwed something up?
Stephen Hansen
92 F250
50 F-1

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:58:33 -0600
From: "Stephen W.Hansen"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...

Has everyone sent a message to the spammer? That is an excellent way to
handle it Ken.
Stephen Hansen
92 F250
50 F-1

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:11:43 -0800
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...

Heheheheheheh!
I think we still are. Ken said the guy can't unzub. So I imagine he is
bearing the fruit of his labors now.

Ken, my hat is off to you.

Bob


"Stephen W.Hansen" wrote:

> Has everyone sent a message to the spammer? That is an excellent way to
> handle it Ken.
> Stephen Hansen
> 92 F250
> 50 F-1
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:22:24 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Online Survey & rough running/pinging

Steven,

I've tried arc welding with flip helmets for years, but every time I'd flip
it I'd either ground the rod or break the arc. I bought my auto-dim helmet
in a package deal from an old man who retired from making a living with a
portable shop mounted on an F-350 flatbed. While my equipment is industrial
type, there are light duty inert gas welders available now. I saw some at a
local overstock liquidation company for $450, and they are capable of
welding up to 3/8 inch mild steel in a single pass. that just about covers
your Ford truck's needs. Only 20-30 minutes of instruction and strong welds
were easy. Making tehm look perfect is still a challenge. With inert gas,
auto-dimming helmets, quality intsruction available in print, and determined
practice, anyone can learn to weld. I'm making good welds in cold-rolled,
mild, and chromemoly steel, cast iron, and aluminum.

Ken

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:30:20 -0500
From: "Troy"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - re: Bigger Tires

On 1 Nov 99, at 9:59, ken haley wrote:

>In this town they are fairly accurate--much closer than most factory
>speedometer calibrations. I have noticed some in Memphis that were off by
>20% or more.

Hmmmm, the boxes here don't seem to be that accurate. I have
noticed that one will say that I'm going around 4 MPh over the
speed limit while others might say that I'm right around the speed
limit when my speedometer needle is in the same position. I give
up. I can say that since I have had the truck I haven't had a
speeding ticket...... I guess that something must be going right or
I have been lucky. :)

>To use highway mile markers, you have to maintain an exactly steady speed,
>virtually impossible except on smooth, straight pavement without changes in
>slope. Such road conditions are extremely rare around here. By the way, 1
>minute/mile = 60 miles/hour. A 1 second misread on the clock puts your test
>1 mph off at 60 mph.
>
>Troy, no system is perfect. There are too many variables.

Exactly. That's why I think the officers won't bother with anything
under say 5 miles per hour because of such variables. I'm not
going to worry about it until/unless a speeding infraction does arise
such as the cop saying that I was way over the speed limit when
my needle was right at the designated speed. :)

You might be a redneck if... Your horse can count higher than you.
- Jeff Foxworthy


Troy Williams
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:30:20 -0500
From: "Troy"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '84 F-150 Carb problems.

I have an '84 F-150 double barrel carb perched on top of a wonderful
302 that seems to need an attitude adjustment.

When I first bought the truck about a year and a half ago, the thing
was running rich, buddy said the power valve was busted, so we
went and did a rebuild on it.

Things were fine for a while until the choke thermostat broke. Put
a new choke thermostat on the truck, re-adjusted the choke, and
then re-adjusted the carb on the truck.

Ever since then I'm having a small problem with the truck. I can go
out there and press the gas all the way to the floor, release, start
the truck and it'll fast idle for a few seconds, then dwindle down.
Pressing the gas to the floor again, releasing, and turning the key
remedies this problem. I don't think this is normal though.

Another problem is if I drive the truck for a period of time, say 15 or
20 minutes, then let it sit for a little while, say a half hour, and then
try to start it again, I usually end up having to press the gas all the
way to the floor and hold it to get the truck started again, almost as
if the carb is flooding itself out. Sometimes it will do this and
sometimes it won't.

My final complaint, when I leave work a lot of the time when it is
cooler out in the early evenings, I can start the truck, let it go
through the fast idle for a minute or two, and then put it in gear and
take off. The problem is that I have to baby the truck as it will bog
down and often stall. This isn't a major problem, but it has become
quite an annoyance.

I have fought round after round with the carb, tried using the carb
cleaner on it, re-adjusting it, the truck will run fine for a few weeks
and start acting up again.

Is this a problem common with Ford pickups, or is this just a bug
in mine somewhere? Another problem that I should look for that
might cause these annoyances? I'm getting really frustrated and
I'm considering replacing the carb.

Thanks for any advice.



You might be a redneck if... You get your oil changed by your barber.
- Jeff Foxworthy


Troy Williams
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:30:20 -0500
From: "Troy"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - re: Bigger Tires

On 2 Nov 99, at 11:34, BRIGANDBAR aol.com wrote:

>One other thing, if you live in a rural area, or are friendly with a state
>trooper or deputy sheriff, you can perhaps find an area where it is legal to
>drive at 50, 60, and 70 mph (or 40/50/60 mph if that is more feasible) and
>just have him clock you on his radar/lidar. I only suggest these speeds to
>avoid placing him in a rock and a hard place by asking him to ignore a
>premeditated violation. It all depends upon your relationship with the
>officer, but even a cold contact with a traffic division officer will often
>result in his being willing to clock you at one or more legal speeds. These
>guys aren't inherently evil, they have a job to do, and generally, if you
>convince him you just want to have a base point to avoid a traffic ticket,
>and its not release time at the school in the school zone that he is working,
>he'll be willing to work with you, especially if you've changed out tire
>sizes, etc. and have a reasonable explanation as to why you
need the help.

I was considering doing such, but don't know any cops in my area.
Might pay a visit to the sheriff's office one day and see if they will
assist me in such a test.

Thanks ya'll for the ideas, I'll be posting another question here in
the next few minutes referring to the wonderful carburetor on my
truck.

You might be a redneck if... You make your wife ride in the back of
the truck so the dog won't get sick. - Jeff Foxworthy


Troy Williams
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:28:41 -0800
From: Chris McKinnon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - gearbox

>If a ZF bolts up to a 351 Windsor, will it bolt right up to a 302?
>
>
>Blake
>Little Mountain
>Concord, Ohio
>

Will a ZF or Mazda bolt up to my 84ish NP 208 and 351W? (In place of a NP 435.)
I want to go to an overdrive for better mileage because I just don't seem to
have time to go off road and I don't own a trailer.
Thanks
Chris

84 F-150
NP 435
NP 208
281k Km
on propane

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:06:16 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mike Persell"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Excessive crankcase pressure

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:54:06 -0600, Stephen W.Hansen wrote:
>Now I know that bad rings can cause "blow-by" But it doesn't add up that
>there wasn't a problem with it before the cam replacement; and why do some
>bad rings cause blow-by and others make an engine smoke? (There isn't any
>smoke from the tailpipe?)
>What are some of the other causes of excessive crank case pressure?
>Could the dealership have screwed something up?


Head gaskets, burned exhaust valve (usually runs really rough though), broken
piston(s) (I once saw a 289 running with 6 broken pistons before it was rebuilt)

Mike

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:29:16 -0800
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - gearbox

Yup, but you will probably need a new flywheel, and I believe the length is
different so you would need to alter the front and rear drivelines and
possible relocate the tranny mount.

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From: Blake Malkamaki
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Date: Friday, November 12, 1999 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - gearbox


>>As far as I know the ZF gearbox was only used on F-250/350 trucks with 351
>>or 460 engines. Yours is a Mazda gearbox.
>>
>
>If a ZF bolts up to a 351 Windsor, will it bolt right up to a 302?
>
>
>Blake
>Little Mountain
>Concord, Ohio
>Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
>"Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
>"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."
>
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:01:34 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...

As I recall, he set up a temporary Hotmail address for this little
exercise, so he will just ignore that address and let the mail pile up.
Eventually Hotmail will kill the account, but only after he has tied up a
few megs of disk space with all these messages.

At 17:11 13/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Heheheheheheh!
>I think we still are. Ken said the guy can't unzub. So I imagine he is
>bearing the fruit of his labors now.
>
>Ken, my hat is off to you.
>
>Bob
>
>
>"Stephen W.Hansen" wrote:
>
>> Has everyone sent a message to the spammer? That is an excellent way to
>> handle it Ken.
>> Stephen Hansen
>> 92 F250
>> 50 F-1
>>
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Jim Cannon
Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!"
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 01:37:48 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - re: Bigger Tires

>>To use highway mile markers, you have to maintain an exactly steady speed,
>>virtually impossible except on smooth, straight pavement without changes in
>>slope. Such road conditions are extremely rare around here. By the way, 1
>>minute/mile = 60 miles/hour. A 1 second misread on the clock puts your test
>>1 mph off at 60 mph.

Just use your stopwatch on a straightaway. Mile markers do not compensate
for curves as both direction's markers move together.

55 mph = 65 seconds
60 mph = 60 seconds
70 mph = 51 seconds
75 mph = 48 seconds


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
"Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."


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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 01:20:02 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...

>As I recall, he set up a temporary Hotmail address for this little
>exercise, so he will just ignore that address and let the mail pile up.
>Eventually Hotmail will kill the account, but only after he has tied up a
>few megs of disk space with all these messages.
>

But in the meantime he is now able to get all our email addresses to add to
his stash.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
"Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."


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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 01:22:34 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Excessive crankcase pressure

>What are some of the other causes of excessive crank case pressure?
>Could the dealership have screwed something up?
>
My 77 Bronco 302 burned a hole down the side of the piston from running to
much spark advance and too much cylinder pressure due to a too mild cam.
This obviously caused massive blowby.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
"Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."


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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 00:00:24 -0800
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...

That's OK, I used some highly sophisticated tracking software and found out
where he lives. Today I took one of the axle shafts out of my F-250, went
over to his house, and beat him to death with it...


OK, maybe I didn't, but it sounded good...
Rade Spasojevic -- rspasoje mindspring.com
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From: Blake Malkamaki
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - The spammer...


>>As I recall, he set up a temporary Hotmail address for this little
>>exercise, so he will just ignore that address and let the mail pile up.
>>Eventually Hotmail will kill the account, but only after he has tied up a....


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