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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar
FTE 80-96 - FTE: 80-96 ROUGH IDLE, STUMBLING ACCELERATION
FTE 80-96 - 10 MPH
Re: FTE 80-96 - (no subject)
Re: FTE 80-96 - FTE: 80-96 ROUGH IDLE, STUMBLING ACCELERATION
Re: FTE 80-96 - FTE: 80-96 ROUGH IDLE, STUMBLING ACCELERATION
FTE 80-96 - engine power
FTE 80-96 - Engine missfire
FTE 80-96 - Missing Engine Found!
FTE 80-96 - 1992 F250 XLT help
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 F250 XLT help
Re: FTE 80-96 - Missing Engine Found!
Re: FTE 80-96 - Missing
Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar
Re: FTE 80-96 - (no subject)
FTE 80-96 - RE: (no subject) [heat ranges]
FTE 80-96 - RE: no four wheel drive
Re: FTE 80-96 - OIL PRESURE!
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: (no subject) [heat ranges]
Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar
Re: FTE 80-96 - Missing Engine Found!
Re: FTE 80-96 - SRW to DRW
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 F250 XLT help
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 F250 XLT help
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 F250 XLT help
Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar
Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar
FTE 80-96 - Miss
FTE 80-96 - Billet?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:15:57 -0500
From: "Michael McCarthy"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar

I have a radar detector but I rely on a CB on the open highway and going the
speed limit, or with the flow of traffic, around town, although I rarely
speed in either situation. There is just too much activity on local roads,
and hence the chance that some innocent individual will be hurt or killed,
to risk speeding in crowded, heavy traffic, situations.
Speeding doesn't save a significant amount of time anyway. A 100 mile trip
at 65mph takes about 1 hour and 32 minutes. Go 75mph and it takes 1 hour and
20 minutes. 12 minutes saved. You have to go 500 miles to save an hour. It
is only 1 hour of your life. How important is it?
If it is that important leave an hour earlier, or the day before. Besides,
it's the stops that take all the time. If you are in that big of a hurry
stop less or not at all and you can get there comfortably in the allotted
time, safely, doing the speed limit. Call ahead and tell whoever it is you
are meeting that you will be a little late. Unless you are on the way to
stop a war I'd say they will understand.
I stop and think about these issues every time I get in a hurry.

Michael McCarthy
Export, PA

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Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar



>Jerome Kelly wrote:
>>
>> >From time to time I get magazines that sell radar jammers or a
>> combinations of
>> a detector and jammer combined. Have
>> one company claim they will pay speeding
>> tickets for one years if you buy their devise. Sounds to good to be
>> true. These
>> devices are expensive, but worthless if
>> not effective. Does anyone have any input on them?
>>
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:15:55 -0800
From: "Dennis"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - FTE: 80-96 ROUGH IDLE, STUMBLING ACCELERATION

89 F250 351W FI C6 67,000 miles and real clean, Once the truck is warmed up
it has a rough idle and a stumbling acceleration, the harder the load the
worse the stumbling, I think it's there when cold but much less pronounced.
About at my wits end and relly need some more help. Here's what I have done:
TPS... 0.5Volts at idle 4.5Volts full throttle both cold and hot and smooth
transition.
O2.... Around 0.5Volts when heated up, appears to be working properly.
EGR... had a egr code, cleaned and replaced gasket, code gone.
EVP... Reads normal with no jumps when operated.
MAP... Frequency type, checks out perfectly.
IAT... Reads according to specs
IAC... Had a code that indicated the ecu couldn't raise idle during KOER
test, removed and cleaned code gone, working normally.
FPR... Replaced unnecesarily
Ran all fuel pressure tests outlined in the Haynes manual, passed with
flying colors.
Checked base timing, right on the money 10BTDC.
Replaced fuel filter, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, air filter, crank breather
filter, also have run one bottle of techroline thru tank to no avail. Also I
no longer receive any codes from the ECU. Tonight I will peer under the hood
when it is dark and look for dancing spark. The truck never pings either,
and always starts right up, no matter how cold.
Haven't done any thing with the Managed Air System, can it cause these
problems? And does it comunicate with the computer? Can I disable this
system, if yes how? I have the serpentine belt or I would just unhook it.

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:30:59 -0700
From: "Tom Higgins"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 10 MPH

John,

While I agree with you in general that speeding isn't worth it there are
places
and situations where it makes quite a difference. In the west, the distance
between two points geographically is beyond realistic comprehension to most
easterners (not sure where you are located). I used to drive Reno to Las
Vegas
which is 450 miles. At 55 mph that is 8.1 hours of driving time. At 65
miles per
hour it is 6.9 hours of driving time. That saves over an hour of driving
per trip and
65 is certainly safe on that road. Of course, this is a moot point. The
speed limit
is now 70 and even when it wasn't the police wouldn't pull you over at 75 as
long
as you weren't in one of the few "towns" you would pass through.

HHHMMMM....couple the above with the fact that I could move back to a no
smog
county and suddenly I long to move back home.

Tom in Phoenix

>Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:49:35 -0600
>From: "John M. Randall"
>Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar

>The absolute best plan to avoid a speeding ticket is to go the speed limit,
>if you stop and figure out what you save by increasing the speed by 10 MPH
>it's not worth the ticket.

>John


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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:46:41 -0600
From: "Steve Schmeckpeper"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - (no subject)

Hey Ken, Where can I get a " hooter " plug, and are they sold in pairs 8^))
Smeck

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From: ken haley
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - (no subject)


> On the topic of heat ranges:
>
> In the olden days (pre oil injection) this old fart began his offroading
on
> 2 stroke dirtbikes. It was common to have 2 spark plug holes, one with a
> hooter plug to start and warm the engine and a cooler plug for running
with.
> This prevented plug fouling when the engine was cold.
>
> Every piston i burned a hole in was right below the hot plug. It doesn't
> matter if I ever used the hot plug or not, it was the one that burned the
> hole in the piston.
>
> NET: Be aware that too-hot plugs may cause your pistons to develop holes.
> This can really play havoc with compression.
>
> Ken
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 13:01:37 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - FTE: 80-96 ROUGH IDLE, STUMBLING ACCELERATION

Dennis wrote:

> TPS... 0.5Volts at idle 4.5Volts full throttle both cold and hot and smooth

I'd try to set idle a little closer to 1 volt. I think .45 or .43 is
lower acceptable std, but in pratice, most try to set it at .98.

> O2.... Around 0.5Volts when heated up, appears to be working properly.

.5 and it stays there? Should sweep back and forth at idle/cruise.
Should be .6-.9 under half-full throttle. If it goes to .9 or above
under heavy accel and it is stumbling around like crazy, it is spark
related as mixture is not burning effectively.

> Replaced fuel filter, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, air filter, crank breather
> filter, also have run one bottle of techroline thru tank to no avail.

What about TFI module and pickup in distr???

d always starts right up, no matter how cold.
> Haven't done any thing with the Managed Air System, can it cause these
> problems? And does it comunicate with the computer?

Should show codes if TAB or TAD vac valves are not working correctly.

> Can I disable this system, if yes how?

It still works on vac. Youcan disable the entire thing by yanking the
main vac source for it.

OX
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:08:51 -0800
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - FTE: 80-96 ROUGH IDLE, STUMBLING ACCELERATION

Yep, look at Air by pass valve, if it's sticking it will exhibit these traits.

Bob


Dennis wrote:

> 89 F250 351W FI C6 67,000 miles and real clean, Once the truck is warmed up
> it has a rough idle and a stumbling acceleration, the harder the load the
> worse the stumbling, I think it's there when cold but much less pronounced.
> About at my wits end and relly need some more help. Here's what I have done:
> TPS... 0.5Volts at idle 4.5Volts full throttle both cold and hot and smooth
> transition.
> O2.... Around 0.5Volts when heated up, appears to be working properly.
> EGR... had a egr code, cleaned and replaced gasket, code gone.
> EVP... Reads normal with no jumps when operated.
> MAP... Frequency type, checks out perfectly.
> IAT... Reads according to specs
> IAC... Had a code that indicated the ecu couldn't raise idle during KOER
> test, removed and cleaned code gone, working normally.
> FPR... Replaced unnecesarily
> Ran all fuel pressure tests outlined in the Haynes manual, passed with
> flying colors.
> Checked base timing, right on the money 10BTDC.
> Replaced fuel filter, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, air filter, crank breather
> filter, also have run one bottle of techroline thru tank to no avail. Also I
> no longer receive any codes from the ECU. Tonight I will peer under the hood
> when it is dark and look for dancing spark. The truck never pings either,
> and always starts right up, no matter how cold.
> Haven't done any thing with the Managed Air System, can it cause these
> problems? And does it comunicate with the computer? Can I disable this
> system, if yes how? I have the serpentine belt or I would just unhook it.
>
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:59:18 -0800
From: "Phillips, Jim (EMA)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - engine power

My 94 F-150 extra cab, long wheelbase, 4X4 with a 5.0L w/ 52K really dogs
up the steep grades in 2WD. I really love this beast so don't start doggin
it. It has a factory tow package, and the off road pkg that earned me the
cool stickers on the rear of the bed and that really big transfer-case skid
plate. One buddy said it was because of the E4OD that I "THINK" I have in it
and another said the engine was underpowered. In 4lo & 4HI the truck has
more power than I know what to do with. I've only had the thing for a year
and haven't had a chance/money/time to do much research about what this baby
is really all about and what can be done to help the pwr problem. Any
comments or hints would be helpfull.
Jim
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Date: 4 Nov 1999 11:05:29 -0800
From: "David W"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Engine missfire

> >
> >Hello all,
> >
> >My '89 F250 has developed a miss, and I'm not sure what the steps to
check
> >are. First of all, what is the easiest way to determine which plug isn't
> >firing? Timing light?
> >
> >I replaced the plugs and wires ~1000 miles ago. What's next? Distributor?
> >Coil?
> >
> >Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Andy Norris

Hi Andy! You question meets the criteria of not being dumb. Had you
asked "where are my spark plug wires....?" :-)

What kind of plug wires did you replace them with? The reason I ask
is many aftermarket wires are of questionable quality, some ask you to
cut to custom fit and put the terminations in yourself, it is near
impossible
to get the end in properly...and then you dont have a waterproof seal on
the boots. Not good!

Also, recheck your wires and make sure they are shoved on the plugs
all the way...and that you did not by accident get the plug wire connector
shoved next to the spark plug tip instead of clicked over it! I would pull
the wires off the plugs one at a time and push them back on. If you dont
feel and hear that "click" then you might need to compress the plug wire
connector a bit (with pliers?) to get a tight fit.

Check your plug wires for high resistance with an ohm meter. It is typical
to get several hundred or even THOUSAND ohms of resistance per foot
in standard grade ignition wires...this is OK (not ideal, but OK) as your
ignition is high voltage, low current. Using ohms law, E=IR (voltage =
current x resistance) low current gives low voltage loss...but if you have
one wire that is much higher in resistance for the length, then its bad.
If you have a bad wire, it may have damaged your distributer cap by leaving
a carbon trail...a spot where all that electricity was finaly released...and
your
cap would then need to be replaced. you can also have a carbon trail
without a bad wire...so its something to look for too.

Did you have a recent antifreeze leak? I had a leak from the thermostat
gasket that sprayed out, was slung by the fan as a mist all over everything,
turned on my check engine light (NOT from overheating, I smelled the
antifreeze and kept topping off the radiator w/water until I got home)
and made the engine run like crap, probably from soaking the distributor
and wires.

There are so many possibilities for a miss...it could be a clogged fuel
injector,
in which case a can of cleaner in the gas may be all you need.

If you have not found the cause already, let us know more information to
help.
Does the miss happen when the engine is hot, cold or both? At idle, full
speed,
heavy acceleration, light acceleration or some combination or all the time?

Also, a device of incredible help is a cheap computer scan tool. Yes,
you can scan your comnputer codes with a couple hunks of wire...but I
purchased
a little black box for about $30 that plugs into the test connector. It
flashes the
dash check engine light, flashes an LED on the box and beeps. You can start
and stop the code scan too. An investment of great value! Also, my local
car parts store is selling a true "scan tool" that works with
Ford/GM/Chrysler
computers...for $300. This little gem has an LCD that talks to you in plain
english to troubleshoot your vehicle. Hope to buy one soon. *drool*
It contains an Intel processor...and since I work at Intel...making
processors...
I thank any of you who purchase one!

Good luck, let us know how you are doing with it.

- -David
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 13:55:01 -0600
From: Andy Norris
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Missing Engine Found!

I want to thank everyone who took the time to respond to my query!

Turns out I caused the problem in the first place. My dad suggested I spend
four dollars at Wal-Mart on a plug firing indicator. That sort of helped. I
was angling myself all over the place trying to get a good view of it while
doing what I could to stay out of the belts and fan. I was down there
looking at the second one from the back on the passenger side, and when I
moved the wire just a bit, I saw a white spark happening.

That damned wire was burned almost in half! Crispy!

I think David W. was right about setting the connector to the side of the
contact rather than on it, and I think the spark was jumping to find a
ground and burned the wire in the process. I had a spare plug wired lying
around that was the same length (I don't know how that happened). I took
the plug out to look at it. Looked fine other than some oil on it. Stuck
the plug back in, put the new wire on, reconnected the negative battery
cable, and it started great. Even in the space of a week you can forget how
good it sounds for it to run normally when you've had to deal with a miss
or some other frustration...

For good measure I spot checked a couple of the other plugs, and the gaps
were fine and they were clean.

When I was looking at the juice coming from the coil, it looked like it
might be pretty week. I saw they're not too expensive to replace. Does
anyone have any comment on what kind of life-span you should expect from a
coil? I'm sitting at 139k/10yrs right now. I've already had to replace the
starter and the solenoid.

From the way I see it, I saved some money last night. I had an appointment
to take it in this morning, and no doubt by the time they hooked it up to
an analyzer, found the problem, and charged me for a set of plugs, I'd be
out over a hundred bucks. Now I need to convince the wife that I can spend
that money on something else...

Thanks again for all the help. You guys need a raise!

Andy Norris
89 F250

p.s. David W., I've got an Intel 400MHz idling nicely at home... and one
here at my desk at work. They haven't misfired once! It's good stuff.

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:10:04 -0500
From: Dave Ginnane
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1992 F250 XLT help

Hi 80-96-list,

Need advice on probable oil pressure problems...

After half an hour on the highway, the truck develops a rapid clicking sound
from the top of the engine, varying with engine speed. And then under load on
upward inclines a loud bang will intermittently come from the bottom of the engine,
as if a hammer is being hit against the oil pan.
After cooling down the engine returns to normal.
The local Ford dealer changed the oil pump which has made no difference.
Someone else says it has spun a bearing and is therefore losing oil pressure,
affecting the valve lifters. The oil pressure gauge shows normal all the time.
Any informed help greatly appreciated

TIA,
Dave Ginnane mailto:dg datacrest.demon.co.uk


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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:51:17 EST
From: FULSZBRONC aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 F250 XLT help

In a message dated 11/04/1999 01:14:40 PM Mountain Standard Time,
dg datacrest.demon.co.uk writes:


>>
Which engine? How many miles on it? The more complete the information
given, the better the chance for an informed reply, not just some B.S.
answer shot from the hip.
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 18:33:09 -0500
From: flagship worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Missing Engine Found!

Andy,

It turns out you're right. If you repaired something on your vehicle by
yourself and save any money you are authorized by the U.S. Constitution
to spend the savings as long as it's spent on a truck or any kind of
tool.. Further amendments state these savings may not be wasted on
things for the home or garden. This includes new furniture or kitchen
appliances. Sorry...tools or trucks only.....


Emil



Andy Norris wrote:
>
>
> From the way I see it, I saved some money last night. I had an appointment
> to take it in this morning, and no doubt by the time they hooked it up to
> an analyzer, found the problem, and charged me for a set of plugs, I'd be
> out over a hundred bucks. Now I need to convince the wife that I can spend
> that money on something else...
>
> Thanks again for all the help. You guys need a raise!
>
> Andy Norris
> 89 F250
>
> p.s. David W., I've got an Intel 400MHz idling nicely at home... and one
> here at my desk at work. They haven't misfired once! It's good stuff.
>
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 15:47:27 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Missing

Shawn,

"YMMV"?

Ken

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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 15:52:24 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar

Michael,

Bless you. The life you save may be mine.

Ken

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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:02:44 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - (no subject)

Smeck,

Freudian slip, my friend, sorry. I've been divorced over 10 years. If you
find some hooters, send one my way. :-P

Yall please forgive my occasional symantic flaws--I wasn't suppossed to
learn to read and write, being learning disabled and all. Isn't disobediance
a wonderful thing???

Ken

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." --Wayne Gretzky

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:55:47 -0500
From: Paul M Radecki
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: (no subject) [heat ranges]

Ken posted:
>>In the olden days (pre oil injection) this old fart began his
offroading on
>>2 stroke dirtbikes. It was common to have 2 spark plug holes, one with
a
>>hooter plug to start and warm the engine and a cooler plug for running
with.

Hooter plugs? Were those old motors known to be "knockers"? I think we
young guys missed out on all the fun! ;-)

lordjanusz juno.com
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'73 F100
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:00:27 -0500
From: Paul M Radecki
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: no four wheel drive

>> Try unlocking the hubs and putting it in 4wd. Then try driving slowly
>with
>> the door open and hang out under the truck and look at the front
>driveshaft.

>Let me know when you do this, I want to be there with my camera...

Yeah, TV pays big money for video of people doing stupid things. Just
don't end up winning a "Darwin Award". Do I really have to suggest that
you have a friend help you with this procedure?

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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 19:08:01 -0500
From: Matthew Hayduk
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - OIL PRESURE!

At 04:38 PM 11/2/99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 11/2/99 3:37:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>mhayduk bigfoot.com writes:
>
>>
>This is an 1/8th mile time correct?
>Later
>Wayne Foy
>'94 Flareside SC


:-) I wish it was 1/4 mile!


Matthew Hayduk
mhayduk bigfoot.com ICQ: 3680882 pager.mirabilis.com

94 SVT Cobra Coupe White/Black Leather #4270 of 5009 SCOA
8.795 79.071 Mph PERSONAL TOP SPEED: 137 mph
- K&N FIPK
- Mac Long Tubes, Offroad X pipe Flowmaster 2 chamber
- Pro 5.0 Power Tower Shifter
- Autometer Cowl Mounted Fuel Pres Guage
- Motorsport Aluminum Driveshaft
- CEnterforce Dual Friction Clutch
- Compucar Wet Nitrous System -- 90 Shot == NEVER USED
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:20:38 PST
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: (no subject) [heat ranges]

Lordjanusz,

Don't know about knockers, but my cherished BSA 441 Victor was one hell of a
thumper.

Ken

>Ken posted:
> >>In the olden days (pre oil injection) this old fart began his
>offroading on
> >>2 stroke dirtbikes. It was common to have 2 spark plug holes, one with
>a
> >>hooter plug to start and warm the engine and a cooler plug for running
>with.
>
>Hooter plugs? Were those old motors known to be "knockers"? I think we
>young guys missed out on all the fun! ;-)
>
>lordjanusz juno.com
>'94 F150
>'73 F100
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:35:49 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar

>be a jammer it must be jamming, therefore, it must be transmitting. If
>it's transmitting on a frequency that's going to jam police radar, it
>will also be setting off the detector all the time which makes it
>worthless. There are jammers available. I have plans I got a long time
>ago but they're expensive to build, and illegal to operate. Check back
>issues of Car and Driver. They have done extensive testing of radars,
>lasers and jammers. In fact, they tried to "jam" laser in a test in the
>last year or so. It was interesting to note that merely turning on the

Maybe a hand-held, laser-seeking missile that you could just toss out the
window would be most effective.


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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:30:53 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Missing Engine Found!

>When I was looking at the juice coming from the coil, it looked like it
>might be pretty week. I saw they're not too expensive to replace. Does
>anyone have any comment on what kind of life-span you should expect from a
>coil? I'm sitting at 139k/10yrs right now. I've already had to replace the
>starter and the solenoid.

Pull your coil wire out of the distributor and have someone turn the engine
over while you look at the spark. The chance of your coil going bad is slim.

As far as life expectancy goes, I have had coils that are close to 90 years
old that are still good. Your's is not old.


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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:28:29 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - SRW to DRW

>Jim Cross writes: >> I'm a new list member with an 89 F350 crew cab single
>rear wheel under rebuild
>It has an industrial bush box on it ( it's an ex-logging company unit)
>
>2) Are dual wheels a bolt on or are there major brake changes etc to
>convert from a
>single wheels setup?
>
>Don't know about your particular model, but I'll share my experiences with
>a '79
>F350 4X4 SRW that my son and I converted to DRW.
>
>The inner wheel(actually the tire) touched the leaf spring and we had to
>make a
>spacer. We did this out of 1/2" aluminum stock. Countersunk the bolt
>holes on
>both sides. Bought new lug bolts and installed in the axle and purchased the
>larger nuts required for DRW's. This gave us just enough clearence for the
>inner wheel. We're still running it this way and it was 4 years or so that we
>did this. No problems so far, but I must say the truck never is really
>loaded.
>Has a 10' flatbed on it. I think it really looks good and could be used for
>heavy hauling, but it has never been truly tested. If we had it to do over we
>would try to purchase a complete rear from a C&C that came with the DRW's.
>Brakes seem to be adequate for the job, but again it hasn't been truly tested.
>We are running the 16" rims not the 16.5"'s

If you are not trying to mount a standard pickup bed on it, you are better
to get a rear axle out of a 1-ton dump truck as they are narrower than a
dually pickup axle. Therefore the tires do not stick out so far.


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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:24:48 -0500
From: Dave Ginnane
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 F250 XLT help



It has a 5.8l engine, and 66,000 miles on the clock


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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 17:46:54 PST
From: "Christopher Worley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 F250 XLT help

Don't feel alone I have the same problem with a 93 F150 that does the same.

chris
>From: Dave Ginnane
>Reply-To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1992 F250 XLT help
>Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:10:04 -0500
>
>Hi 80-96-list,
>
>Need advice on probable oil pressure problems...
>
>After half an hour on the highway, the truck develops a rapid clicking
>sound
>from the top of the engine, varying with engine speed. And then under load
>on
>upward inclines a loud bang will intermittently come from the bottom of the
>engine,
>as if a hammer is being hit against the oil pan.
>After cooling down the engine returns to normal.
>The local Ford dealer changed the oil pump which has made no difference.
>Someone else says it has spun a bearing and is therefore losing oil
>pressure,
>affecting the valve lifters. The oil pressure gauge shows normal all the
>time.
>Any informed help greatly appreciated
>
>TIA,
>Dave Ginnane mailto:dg datacrest.demon.co.uk
>
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:59:15 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 F250 XLT help

In a message dated 11/4/99 8:51:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cworley76 hotmail.com writes:


>sound
>from the top of the engine, varying with engine speed. And then under load
>on
>upward inclines a loud bang will intermittently come from the bottom of the
>engine,
>as if a hammer is being hit against the oil pan. >>
Ummmm...If MY Ford truck was doing this......I would definitely not drive it
down the freeway. 2nd, I would be looking into rebuild kits. 3rd I would be
looking for someone to do the work if I couldn't do it myself. And 4th, If
you drive it in this condition for much longer you will NEED to do all of the
above.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
Atlanta GA
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 21:13:32 EST
From: PSales264 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar

I know no one will agree but oh well, how about the small towns that put
speed trips in place for revenue. And don't tell me they don't do that I live
near 2 that hide the cars, put broken down old vans beside the road and
assign blond female cops, out of uniform so you can't tell. I don't know
about you people but I don't like being watched like some sort of lab rat by
the cops THANKS Phil
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 21:39:16 -0600
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar

>I know no one will agree but oh well, how about the small towns that put
>speed trips in place for revenue. And don't tell me they don't do that I live
>near 2 that hide the cars, put broken down old vans beside the road and
>assign blond female cops, out of uniform so you can't tell. I don't know
>about you people but I don't like being watched like some sort of lab rat by
>the cops THANKS Phil

I think all revenue derived from traffic tickets should go into a state
fund - NOT stay within the community where the ticket was written. This
would take away all incentives for local speed traps.

I also think roads should be posted for safety and reasonable speeds, not
ridiculously slow speeds just to make revenue. We have rural cities around
here with miles and miles of wide-open roads that are posted 35 mph. These
roads should reasonably be at least 50.


Blake
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 18:37:40 -0800
From: "S.Harkema"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Miss

>My '89 F250 has developed a miss, and I'm not sure what the steps to >check are. First of all, what is the easiest way to determine which >plug isn't firing? Timing light?

Easiest way I have found.
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Date: 4 Nov 99 22:24:15 PST
From: William Berninghausen
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Billet?

Gentle souls of the Ford truck world:

I've seen it for years and my curiosity is killing me! What in the blue
blazes does "billet" mean? It usually refers to something made from alum=
inum,
and my only guess is that the item is milled from a solid billet of the m=
etal,
however wasteful that may be. Is this it? Is it an alternative to "forg=
ed"
or "die-stamped"? And why is it the preferred method of fabrication; why=
is
it "cool." I'm terribly embarassed to ask such a question, since it show=
s
that I'm terminally uncool ( a judgement, I hasten to add, fully in conso=
nance
with that of my children). =


I hope that one or more of you can gently set me straight on this topic. =

Next, we'll work on my problem of only listening to AM radio (see?--told =
you
I'm uncool!).

Bill in Portland
82 F100/300I6/terminally stock

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 05:32:48 -0500
From: "Michael McCarthy"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radar

I don't think any reasonable person would disagree that the reason for speed
limits in the first place is safety, not revenue generation, but the reality
is that most states and local governments want the money. I grew up in a
small town in Texas right on highway 80 and I can assure you that if you
drove a truck, a car with out of state plates, and you went through our town
at a certain time, you got a ticket. It was disgusting then, and it is
disgusting now.
I carry a radar detector and a CB exactly for that reason. I also carry them
because I can't rise above being human and I occasionally look down and
discover that I am speeding. The act is inadvertent but the result is the
same.
How about community service as a penalty rather than a fine. We could....


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