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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - New cat-back exhaust?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:
FTE 80-96 - Heater Switch
Re: FTE 80-96 - Howling
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: F150Trans-engine life
RE: FTE 80-96 - A question and a subsequent RAVE !!!!!!!
RE: FTE 80-96 - New cat-back exhaust?
RE: FTE 80-96 - Buying advice
FTE 80-96 - REAR LEAF SPRINGS
FTE 80-96 - Transmission
RE: FTE 80-96 - Buying advice
Re: FTE 80-96 - A question and a subsequent RAVE !!!!!!!
FTE 80-96 - Tailgate hardware question
RE: FTE 80-96 - Tires Tires Tires
FTE 80-96 - Buying advice
Re: FTE 80-96 - Buying advice
FTE 80-96 - New cat-back exhaust?
Re: FTE 80-96 - New cat-back exhaust?

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 05:10 -0500
From: Jason D Odor
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - New cat-back exhaust?

Any of the Flowmasters have an awesome sound. I have 2 of the 3 chambers on my
93, 302 and they sound great. I think the higher the series the quieter the
sound.




RHansen ershigs.com on 10/11/99 03:38:28 PM
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Subject: FTE 80-96 - New cat-back exhaust?

I have a '95 F-250 XLT 4x4 7.5L. I love everything about it except the
sound (and obviosly. The stock exhaust seams to sound very restrictive. I
was looking at different mufflers and noticed Flowmaster had a "Big Block
(50 Series)" and a "Big Block II (70 Series)" muffler. I know it's 3" DIA
into the muffler and I'll probably switch to a single 3" out. Has anyone
tried these mufflers? What do people think of them, or do you have a better
suggestion.

Thanks,

Randy
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 05:47:00 -0500
From: bg
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:

I would have to second Blake's observation. Having just put a countershaft, input
shaft and a bunch of bearings in a '92, I don't see how folks off-road 'em
without trashing the things. Mine was street only with stock 300. Oh yeah, and
the price of the parts. About $800 for what would fill a shoebox.
Bill G

Blake Malkamaki wrote:

> The Mazda 5 speed OD is weak. Not sure about the ZF. Your NP 435 is much
> tougher than either I believe. The best choice (but expensive) would be to
> order a NV 4500 with adaptors from Advance Adaptor in California. They also
> say Clark makes a tough one, but the fitting is in your hands.
>
> I think if I were you, I would just get some big tires and keep your 4 speed.
>
> Blake
> Little Mountain
> Concord, Ohio
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 06:21 -0500
From: Jason D Odor
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Heater Switch

This is pertaining to the note someone wrote yesterday about the heater switch
not working. I have the same problem, could you email me off list and let me
know if that solved you problem, and where the resistor is located.
jason.d.odor jci.com

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 11:19:26 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Howling

Is the truck lowered or raised? If the pinion angle is off, it may cause a
"howling" like that also. It could leave you stuck on the side of the road
too!!!
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:03:00 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: F150Trans-engine life

In a message dated 10/11/99 1:10:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
cworley76 hotmail.com writes:


currently have 120,000 and some change and my transmission is still running
good with no problems.

Chris
Waxahachie, TX
>>
Chris,
I was just in Ennis, stayed in Waxahachie, for the Fun Ford Weekend event at
the Motorplex. Were you there? Did you run in Top Truck?
To the rest of the gang, no trophy unfortunately, BUT I am tied for 2nd place
for total points for the year. So I am going to request the #2 for my Top
Truck running number next year. Oh and one more thing, I ran my all time best
at this event, a 14.83 at 90 mph at a race weight of 5000lbs. Not too shabby
eh?
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:09:28 -0400
From: Dave Heverin
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - A question and a subsequent RAVE !!!!!!!

dave,

Sorry, no. Ford changed the body style beginning in the 87' model year.
The tail gates from an 85' MAY fit your 89', but it will be very obvious
that it is not the right one for that model year.

dave(also)




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From: BIGDOG [mailto:bigdog kendra.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 1:26 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - A question and a subsequent RAVE !!!!!!!


Hi Folks,

First, an intro: My name is Dave and I joined the list about 2 weeks ago.
This place is great. I was a member in '98 prior to buying the wifes truck
(an F-150). I have a question for you all. I have an '89 F-350 HD with a
thrashed tailgate. I found an '85 tailgate in perfect condition for 125
bucks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hardware and all. I assume the '85 and '89 tailgates
are interchangeable. My truck is Wimbledon White and the gate is a Dark
Blue without XLT trim. I personally like the tailgates without trim better.
A trip to the paintshop is all it will take. I am so jazzed because a
perfect tailgate from a salvage yard in my area (Seattle) is $500 and up
!!!!! The guy who has it took it off his truck in '85 to put a camper on
and sold the truck 2 years ago.

TIA for any input and forgive me for being happier than a pig in sh t

Happy Trucking,
Dave

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:19:54 -0400
From: Dave Heverin
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - New cat-back exhaust?

Randy,

i have the BIG BLOCK 50 on my truck. Single 3" in, single 3" out.
Relatively quiet, but I can hear the rumble from the driver's seat. I am
happy with it overall. I noticed a little better power on the bottom end
after installing it.

dave




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From: Hansen, Randal [mailto:RHansen ershigs.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 4:23 PM
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: FTE 80-96 - New cat-back exhaust?


I have a '95 F-250 XLT 4x4 7.5L. I love everything about it except the
sound (and obviosly. The stock exhaust seams to sound very restrictive. I
was looking at different mufflers and noticed Flowmaster had a "Big Block
(50 Series)" and a "Big Block II (70 Series)" muffler. I know it's 3" DIA
into the muffler and I'll probably switch to a single 3" out. Has anyone
tried these mufflers? What do people think of them, or do you have a better
suggestion.

Thanks,

Randy
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 19:22:55 +0200
From: "David Anderson (EUS)"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Buying advice

You may be overly focused on the engine. 101K on a well serviced 300 six is young. If it idles and runs smooth it is probably OK. Other things I'd look at in order of importance:

- -Dual tanks: gauges both work, accurate full to empty, fuel pumps both work, quiet, cross filling tanks safety TSB performed
- -Instrument voltage regulator: all gauges work and are accurate
- -Smooth (not balky) engine under all conditions. (I've found these problems hard to fix)
- -Tight front end including radius arms
- -Frame creaks (low speed turning on bumps) (means some rivets are loose)
- -Read out engine fault codes
- -Lock up the rear brakes on grass, rear ABS working?
- -Rust at rear body corners (look inside)
- -E-brake cables in good condition or they will freeze in winter.
- -AC cold
- -Make sure the transmission ratios (granny if it has one) and rear end ratios suit your needs
- -Someone else may know what to check on manual trans


Good Luck,
David Anderson

>>>>>I'm sorry if I'm boring everybody, but I need advice. I thinking of
buying a 92 F150
2 WD Long Bed with a 300 six, 5 speed trans, XLT trim, dual tanks, PS,
PB, AC, etc. 101000 miles. I've looked at all of the things you look at
when you buy a used truck (no paint work/wrecks, tires evenly worn, no
funny noises, doesn't smoke, drives well, no leaks, etc...). The owner
has all records for the last 4-5 years. These records show the oil
changed every 3000, brakes done (with Ford parts) and a bunch of other
stuff I can't remember.

My question is: what are there things I should look at that are weak
points specific to this model? Are the front ends prone to wearing?
How about the body? Is it known to rust? Is the fuel injection reliable?
Anything else I should check? I'm going to do a compression test in the
next few days. What kind of readings should I get? I'll try to do a
leak down test too, if I can borrow a leak down tester.

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:10:23 -0400
From: Dave Heverin
Subject: FTE 80-96 - REAR LEAF SPRINGS

I have a leaf spring question for whoever thinks they can answer.

I own a 1988 F150 Supercab. It is a standard half-ton, nothing heavy-duty.
About a year ago I noticed that the rear was lower than the front. I
guessed that the rear leaf springs were getting tired and needed a boost.
So I took the truck to a shop that makes leaf springs. They "re-arched" the
existing stack of springs and added one very thick leaf to the stack. They
claimed that this additional spring would add approximately 700lbs to the
carrying capacity. the job was done and I am pleased, but....since then one
of the retaining straps has popped loose. There are two straps on each
spring, one in front of the axle and one behind. I have noticed some
creaking noises from the spring with the broken strap, but haven't noted any
other ill effects. If anyone out there has an opinion on this I would
appreciate hearing it. Should I repair the broken strap? How important is
it?

thanks,

Dave
Bel Air, MD





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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:13:28 -0400
From: "Serian"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Transmission

> I understand there was a Warner T18 used as well
> but I don't know how many gears it has.

The Warner T-18 is a 4 speed unit similar to the NP435.
It has a very low geared 1st, and 4th is direct 1:1 drive,
no overdrive.



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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:40:52 -0300
From: "Rodrigo Carlos Ives"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Buying advice

HY MY NAME IS RODERICK AN JOINED A FEW DAYS AGO,I OWN A 94 FLARE SIDE.

WHAT I HAVE SEEN ON ALL THE F150 IS A PROBLEM ON THE CHASIS, AT THE FRONT
ON THE LEFT SIDE IN FRONT OF THE FRONT TIRE , THEY USUALY GET CRACKED THERE
, ALSO ON THE LEFT SIDE JUST IN FRONT OF THE BACK WHEEL
AT LEAST ON SEVERAL I WENT TO SEE, HAVE A GOOD LOOK
- ----- Mensaje original -----
De:
Para:
Enviado: Martes, 12 de Octubre de 1999 02:11 a.m.
Asunto: FTE 80-96 - Buying advice


>I'm sorry if I'm boring everybody, but I need advice. I thinking of
>buying a 92 F150
>2 WD Long Bed with a 300 six, 5 speed trans, XLT trim, dual tanks, PS,
>PB, AC, etc. 101000 miles. I've looked at all of the things you look at
>when you buy a used truck (no paint work/wrecks, tires evenly worn, no
>funny noises, doesn't smoke, drives well, no leaks, etc...). The owner
>has all records for the last 4-5 years. These records show the oil
>changed every 3000, brakes done (with Ford parts) and a bunch of other
>stuff I can't remember.
>
>My question is: what are there things I should look at that are weak
>points specific to this model? Are the front ends prone to wearing?
>How about the body? Is it known to rust? Is the fuel injection reliable?
> Anything else I should check? I'm going to do a compression test in the
>next few days. What kind of readings should I get? I'll try to do a
>leak down test too, if I can borrow a leak down tester.
>
>
>
>Thanks very much for you time
>
>Jim Rollins
>Simpsonville, SC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:54:54 -0700
From: "BIGDOG"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - A question and a subsequent RAVE !!!!!!!

You bummed my high dude !!!!!!!!! Thank You though. I was set to pick this
thing up and take it to the paintshop. I found one at the Ford garage for
$245. I will just have to transplant my hardware to
it........................which will be a subsequent post for the group.

Thanks again,
Dave


- ----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Heverin
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - A question and a subsequent RAVE !!!!!!!


> dave,
>
> Sorry, no. Ford changed the body style beginning in the 87' model year.
> The tail gates from an 85' MAY fit your 89', but it will be very obvious
> that it is not the right one for that model year.
>
> dave(also)


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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:57:39 -0700
From: "BIGDOG"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tailgate hardware question

Hi all,

Any info on the following would be a big help.

I am getting a new tailgate from Ford for my '89 F-350. I will need to put
the latch and all the hardware from my existing tailgate into it.

My ??? is, has anyone out there done this and if so, are there any tricks or
tips?

TIA for anything and thanks again to Dave Heverin for previous info.

Dave Whipkey

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:51:13 -0300
From: "Rodrigo Carlos Ives"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Tires Tires Tires

HY:
I OWN A 94 F 150 FLARE SIDE AND HAVE PUT 33 12.50 R 15, IT RUNS FINE BUT
THEY RUB A BIT IF YOU TURN THE STEERING TO THE END, NOTHING THAT YOU CANT
AVOID IN EVERY DAY USE
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De: Michael Schumacher
Para:
Enviado: Martes, 12 de Octubre de 1999 12:21 a.m.
Asunto: FTE 80-96 - Tires Tires Tires


>Hey guys,
>
>I have a 93 F-150 5.0 4x4, and I was wondering what size tires I could fit
>in there without rubbing anywhere. Has anyone put some oversized on
theirs?
>
>Mike Schumacher
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:52:02 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Buying advice

I'd double check the records to see if there was any major engine work
done... I once bought a vehicle from a guy that kept all the records, but I
didn't notice that he recently had the head gaskets replaced and the heads
re-worked... I ended up doing a complete top-half rebuild less than 6
months later which I believe was due to inferior workmanship and parts. The
guy probably blew a head gasket and drove it home instead of getting it
towed...

Buyer beware...!


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From: flatthead juno.com [mailto:flatthead juno.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 10:11 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Buying advice


I'm sorry if I'm boring everybody, but I need advice. I thinking of
buying a 92 F150
2 WD Long Bed with a 300 six, 5 speed trans, XLT trim, dual tanks, PS,
PB, AC, etc. 101000 miles. I've looked at all of the things you look at
when you buy a used truck (no paint work/wrecks, tires evenly worn, no
funny noises, doesn't smoke, drives well, no leaks, etc...). The owner
has all records for the last 4-5 years. These records show the oil
changed every 3000, brakes done (with Ford parts) and a bunch of other
stuff I can't remember.

My question is: what are there things I should look at that are weak
points specific to this model? Are the front ends prone to wearing?
How about the body? Is it known to rust? Is the fuel injection reliable?
Anything else I should check? I'm going to do a compression test in the
next few days. What kind of readings should I get? I'll try to do a
leak down test too, if I can borrow a leak down tester.



Thanks very much for you time

Jim Rollins
Simpsonville, SC








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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:20:20 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Buying advice

In a message dated 10/12/99 7:53:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
roderick arnet.com.ar writes:

>
Roderick,
Really? I am also a 1994 Flareside owner. What engine/trans combo do you
have? Is it a 2wd or a 4wd? Check out my site at
HREF="http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/index.html">Wayne's Page . Has build
up info and other stuff.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
#2 overall Fun Ford Weekend Top Truck Class points totals for 1999
14.83 90mph at a race weight of 5000
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:24:33 EDT
From: craig n eggerman
Subject: FTE 80-96 - New cat-back exhaust?

I had a custom exhaust job done with 3 1/2 all the way back with the back
of the catalytic converter cut off so the 3 1/2 would weld on to it. This
significantly improved the over all performance, reduced the heat
problems with little increase in exhaust noise on an 89 E-350 with a 460
in it.
Craig
Eggerman juno.com
Casper,Wyoming
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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:17:32 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - New cat-back exhaust?

I have said this before, but there are new people here now...

If you already have 2 catalytic converters on your truck, save the money
and just run the exhaust from behind the 2nd converter using no muffler. I....

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