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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - RE: HELP!!!!
FTE 80-96 - RE: New Topic - Headlight problems
FTE 80-96 - Tach. Hook up?
FTE 80-96 - Headlight problems
FTE 80-96 - Tach for a 1990 F-150
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1986 F-150 Independent to Straight Axle?
FTE 80-96 - Independent to Straight Axle?
FTE 80-96 - Re: '83 F250 starting problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: '83 F250 starting problems
RE: FTE 80-96 - 1985 F150 Fuel Guage Problem
Re: FTE 80-96 - Tach for a 1990 F-150
FTE 80-96 - Tach hookup
Re: FTE 80-96 - Check engine light
Re: FTE 80-96 - HELP!!!!
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: HELP!!!!
Re: FTE 80-96 - HELP!!!!
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1985 F150 Fuel Guage Problem
FTE 80-96 - RE: Miss in engine
FTE 80-96 - New Question
Re: FTE 80-96 - Independent to Straight Axle?
Re: FTE 80-96 -towing capacities

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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:12:49 -0500
From: Paul M Radecki
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: HELP!!!!

Ed posted:

> Ok, thanks. I don't have any major custom work done. It turned out
to
>be the Fuel Pressure Regulator. Way to go Bob, you hit the nail right
on
>the head. I still have the problem I had before but at least it runs.
>Thanks again everyone (especially Bob)

So, on a scale of 1 - 12, how many beers to replace a FPR? Or did
you punt and take it to a mechanic? That's the next component I plan to
replace on my '94 in my quest to track down the miss we've been
discussing, and while I'm certain that I can take it apart (anything can
be taken apart with a hammer and a grinder ) I really don't want
to screw up the re-install. Pressurized gasoline spewing about in the
engine compartment is BAD...

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'73 F-100 FE in pieces
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:03:52 -0500
From: Paul M Radecki
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: New Topic - Headlight problems

Ken Justice posted:

>The headlights on my '96 F150 have recently started to not turn on when
>I pull out the knob on the switch. But if I move the directional lever
>or flash the brights, they will turn on. On the other hand, if I push
>the directional lever down for the brights, the lights go out (parking
>lights stay on).

>Has anyone experienced this? I'm wondering if I just need to replace the
>light switch or if there is a component in the steering column that
>needs replacing? Or both?

This happened to the E-SuperDuty I drive at work. There is a
complex and pricey multi-function switch in the column, at the base of
the directional stalk. Replace it before it starts a fire. When the
headlight switch on my F-150 failed, it melted the electrical connector
that it plugs into. (My friend the systems analyst claims that all
modern electric devices are smoke powered: you let the smoke out of
them, and they stop working...)

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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:48:54 -0500
From: "PHILLIP P. GUIDRY"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tach. Hook up?

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:47:10 EDT
From: CphgnCwby1 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tach. Hook-up?

hey guys, I just got a tach. off of a friends car, and it worked in his,
so,
i just disconected the wires. Well now that I am trying to stick it in
my
truck, I think it would have been smarter to label!!!!
I need to know, where the wires hook-up:

Here is what I know (or atleast think I do)
GREEN: Tach. Side of Coil
BLACK: Ground
BLUE: Headlight Switch

I have these wires left, can anybody help[ me!!!
Red, Yellow, and White

THANX

Try removing the back cover and look directly at the circuit board where
the wires are pluged/soldered. Sometimes there will be a abbreviation
for the circuit. While you are in there,verify the cylinder selector is
on the proper amount{4,6 or 8 cyl.}
Phillip
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:52:29 -0500
From: "PHILLIP P. GUIDRY"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Headlight problems

Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 07:30:03 -0700
From: Ken Justice
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: New Topic - Headlight problems

Hello,

The headlights on my '96 F150 have recently started to not turn on when
I pull out the knob on the switch. But if I move the directional lever
or flash the brights, they will turn on. On the other hand, if I push
the directional lever down for the brights, the lights go out (parking
lights stay on).

Has anyone experienced this? I'm wondering if I just need to replace the
light switch or if there is a component in the steering column that
needs replacing? Or both?

If anyone has an idea, please let me know. Thanks!

Ken Justice
Discover the Working Mat!
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Ken,first verify that the low beam portion of your headlight bulbs is
not at fault by either a new bulb or an ohmmeter.If this checks good,you
need a new dimmer switch.Good luck to you.

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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 10:16:18 -0400
From: Fletcher Pilling
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tach for a 1990 F-150

Hello fellow ford drivers,

I have posted here several times and enjoy all the good information I
get.

I have a 1990 F-150 xlt s/c with the stock dashboard. I am looking to
try to find a dashboard from the same era that has a tripometer as well
as a tach. Since this was a factory option for my truck, does anyone
know if there is a stock wiring harness in my truck that would work the
tack or do i have to rewire the tach. I am hoping that all trucks have
one wiring harness or dash coupler that uses only the options for that
truck but could support any other factory options as well.
I am also looking at replacing the tired 302 and need information on
whether to just put a rebuild in it or get a 302 from a mustang. I need
more get up and go but am not looking to run 150mph. I just want the
truck to have quick acceleration. right now, it can't get out of it's
own way. I have 155k on the truck and have a rebuilt AOD tranny. I am
not the original owner so I have no history on this truck.
Last, i posted about a bad vibration and thought it was coming from the
tranny. I found out i had a bad u-joint, even thought it did not clunk
when put into gear. (I thought this was the tell tale sign of a bad
u-joint). If anyone has a drive line vibration, check those u-joints.

Fletcher Pilling
1990 F-150 XLT S/C
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:21:37 -0400
From: Greg Carter
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1986 F-150 Independent to Straight Axle?

Follow link below on buildup for doing the axle swap and more background
information. You'll have to do the investigating yourself on whether or not
the leafs will go in but that is easy, just go look at an F250 or F350, note
however that all 80-96 F250s and all 80-86 F350 had IFS but had leafs.
87(maybe 86)-96 F350 had solid front axle with leafs.

Greg Carter
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http://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/buildup/dana60.html


- -----Original Message-----
From: Serian [mailto:serian flashmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 1:50 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1986 F-150 Independent to Straight Axle?


> Has anyone ever tried to convert from the independent coil
> type suspension on 80's fords to the straight axle leaf spring type?

The 80-86 F250 and F350 4x4 had this type of arrangement.
Since Ford used the same frame and body for all F-series light
trucks, I would guess that it is as simple as replacing the front
end suspension and steering parts (heh ... assuming you are
REALLY strong, and/or have a lot of strong friends). Ford
*may* have used hordes of those obnoxious rivets as fasteners,
so it may take some additional tools and a few hands full of
grade 8 bolts, washers, lockwashers, and nuts in addition to
the parts you are swapping.




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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:04:06 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Independent to Straight Axle?

Blake:

Is someone selling conversion kits? What is involved in the modification?
I'd like to learn more about this.

Thanks,

Todd
=========================
It would be much easier and better to convert to the coil spring straight
axle system. They have all the advantages of a straight axle and still ride
nice.

Heck, Dodge went with it on all their trucks.

Blake
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:09:20 -0400
From: "Serian"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: '83 F250 starting problems

> 2) Much more vexing is the fact that sometimes it starts, and sometimes
> it won't. When it runs, it runs fine. But other times, the starter turns
> the engine over, but it won't fire.

Try the advice that the others on the list have given regarding
the fuel system ... a clogged or failing fuel pump, fuel filter, or
carburetor parts can make a nuisance of itself.

Another thing to check is your ignition module ... pull the coil
wire off the distributor, and stick a spark plug on it. Hold the
metal screw part of the spark plug against the engine block or
other good ground, and crank the engine (either by shorting
the BAT wire to the S terminal of the solenoid with the ignition
ON if you are doing it alone, or have a helper crank it). If you
get no spark, it is likely that your ignition module is failing.


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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:23:15 -0400
From: Mike Sloane
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: '83 F250 starting problems

I very much appreciate the good suggestions from everyone. I had pretty much
ruled out ignition problems because there was no unburned gas in the
carburetor, even with lengthy cranking and much accelerator pedal pumping. The
carburetor was a rebuilt that I put in a couple of years ago, but, as someone
mentioned, all it takes is a speck of dirt in a float valve to keep gas out of
the bowl.

But since it is so easy to do, I will check for spark before I do anything
else. I will also give it a squirt of ether and see if it fires on that - that
is usually a dead giveaway that there is a fuel problem.

Thanks to all,

Mike

Serian wrote:

> > 2) Much more vexing is the fact that sometimes it starts, and sometimes
> > it won't. When it runs, it runs fine. But other times, the starter turns
> > the engine over, but it won't fire.
>
> Try the advice that the others on the list have given regarding
> the fuel system ... a clogged or failing fuel pump, fuel filter, or
> carburetor parts can make a nuisance of itself.
>
> Another thing to check is your ignition module ... pull the coil
> wire off the distributor, and stick a spark plug on it. Hold the
> metal screw part of the spark plug against the engine block or
> other good ground, and crank the engine (either by shorting
> the BAT wire to the S terminal of the solenoid with the ignition
> ON if you are doing it alone, or have a helper crank it). If you
> get no spark, it is likely that your ignition module is failing.
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:26:48 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 1985 F150 Fuel Guage Problem

Pat,

Just FYI, there IS a design problem with the tank sending units.
It is actually VERY possible that BOTH sending units are bad.
The real problem however is the cost of these units. Both
sending units in my vehicle are bad, so I use the second
tank as a reserve, and fill up whenever I have to switch tanks.
The sending units are also an in-tank fuel pump, and cost about
$300 each. This is why they haven't been replaced yet.

Good Luck...

Todd

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From: Pat Mack [mailto:patmack2 earthlink.net]
I have the optional rear tank,
and both tanks read incorrectly on the gauge. That should rule out the
sender(s). Any idea how I would check the gauge????

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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 10:25:17 PDT
From: "ken haley"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tach for a 1990 F-150

Hiya, Fletcher!!!

Forgot a Mustang 5.0. Too in-demand and the prices are outragous, at least
around here. I have an 83 Bronco and rebuilt the 302 stock with the
exception of Edelbrock Performer carb, intake, cam and kit, polished (not
ported) and port-matched head with 3-angle valve seats, Accel Blueprint
distributor, coil, and wires, and Mustang GT factory headers hooked to 2"
duals with JC Whitney cheapo turbo mufflers.

Everything is clearanced, balanced, and run as it came out of the box,
except the carb, which needed the electric choke leaned out, a 2 minute job.
Pollution controls were put in the round file. The truck feels just like a
67 F250 I had with a 390-2V, except the 302 keeps pulling long after the 390
would have run out of breath. The truck gurned gas mileage in the high teens
to mid 20s. Not bad for a full size 4X4.

Note that everything swapped on my truck was designed to work together. That
is the key. I was looking for effeciency, not all-out power. As much
improved as the FI 302 is over the old carb versions, I bet a Performer FI
motor would have a good chance of floating your boat and towing it, too.

Of course, a good condition salvaged 460 would be cheaper and have more
power, if you can live with 10 mpg.

Have fun, and try not to break the bank,
Ken

>Hello fellow ford drivers,
>
>I have posted here several times and enjoy all the good information I
>get.
>
>I have a 1990 F-150 xlt s/c with the stock dashboard. I am looking to
>try to find a dashboard from the same era that has a tripometer as well
>as a tach. Since this was a factory option for my truck, does anyone
>know if there is a stock wiring harness in my truck that would work the
>tack or do i have to rewire the tach. I am hoping that all trucks have
>one wiring harness or dash coupler that uses only the options for that
>truck but could support any other factory options as well.
>I am also looking at replacing the tired 302 and need information on
>whether to just put a rebuild in it or get a 302 from a mustang. I need
>more get up and go but am not looking to run 150mph. I just want the
>truck to have quick acceleration. right now, it can't get out of it's
>own way. I have 155k on the truck and have a rebuilt AOD tranny. I am
>not the original owner so I have no history on this truck.
>Last, i posted about a bad vibration and thought it was coming from the
>tranny. I found out i had a bad u-joint, even thought it did not clunk
>when put into gear. (I thought this was the tell tale sign of a bad
>u-joint). If anyone has a drive line vibration, check those u-joints.
>
>Fletcher Pilling
>1990 F-150 XLT S/C
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 14:21:21 -0400
From: slikness mindspring.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tach hookup








"I installed a VDO tach a while back and here are the instructions:

Legend
1. BLACK WIRE -- TACH GROUND TO CHASSIS.
2. WHITE WIRE -- ILLUMINATION WIRE TO HEADLIGHT SWITCH.
3. RED WIRE ---- 12 VOLT POSITIVE CONNECTION TO KEY ACTIVATED FUSE TERMINAL.
4. GREEN WIRE -- IGNITION SIGNAL WIRE TO "-" SIDE OF COIL OR AS SPECIFIED BY IGNITION MANUFACTURER.
5. BLUE WIRE --- ILLUMINATION GROUND TO CHASSIS

T|--------(GROUND-BLACK)
A|-----------------------(LIGHT SWITCH-WHITE)
C|---------------(FUSE TERMINAL-12V-RED)
H|------------------------------------------------(COIL-GREEN)
|--------(GROUND-BLUE)"

NOTE: I did not have a yellow wire.

Hope that helps,

Slik
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 03:21:05 -0700
From: Rob Guerra
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Check engine light

Now I am not an expert by any stretch but........here's my best shot. EFI
engines are run on a specific set of instructions programmed into ROM in
the Electronic Control Module (ECM). The ECM continuously monitors the
sensors in your truck and tries to maintain a specific fuel air ration of
14.7:1. As the processor changes the ratios it references a table/grid of
data, updates RAM memory to use later. If the fuel air mixture required to
maintain a 14.7:1 ratio is either not in the code set or if the RAM memory
cannot be updated (ie. reaches a max value of 128 or 255 depending on the
code max value for the given code set) then you will receive a "check
engine light".

It seems that while you are pulling up hill you are exceeding a the code
set required to maintain your air fuel ratio, but as soon as you level out
the computer seeks codes that are within it's available code set.

Now here comes a lame guess again, but it could very well be your O2
sensor. If this starts to give you errors your engine will get all screwed
up.

By any chance have you recently changed your thermostat? One of the sensors
reads water temp, and if your truck runs too cool it tries to increase the
fuel (ie artificially choke the vehicle) this may also be a problem.



At 02:38 PM 10/01/1999 -0700, Mark Ponsford wrote:
> >I have a 92 Ford F150, and I get a check engine light when I accelerate
> >up hill. It goes off as soon as I level off. Any suggestions what is
> >wrong? Can I check the codes or does the Check engine light have to stay
> >on to check the codes.


Rob

66 Sunbeam Tiger (351 W) 65 Sunbeam Alpine (Rotary - 240 HP) 67 Mustang
Fastback
98 Mustang Cobra 96 F-250 4wd
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:08:51 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - HELP!!!!

In a message dated 10/3/99 6:41:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rspasoje mindspring.com writes:


>>
Rade,
I beg to differ my good man. I personally have a 1994 (March manufacture
date) that came from the factory with Massair. I have also worked on 3 other
1994 F150's, varying manufacture dates, that also came with Massair. The ways
to get Massair on 1994 F150s was one of three ways, 1. To have purchased it
in California, 2. To have purchased it in the Northeast, 3. To have ordered a
conversion package such as a Mark III or similar name. Of course this means a
LOT of trucks from 1994 had Massair.
My .02 ,
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:05:21 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: HELP!!!!

On the '86 it sits on the fuel rail on the driver's side, towards the back.
The easiest way to remove it is to take off the air box. Then it's a matter
of getting at the allen screws out, they are in from the backside. I pulled
the fuel rail up off the injectors, (watch out for the o-rings and replaced
it. If you have plenty of time, it can probably be removed without removing
the fuel rail.

Good Luck,

Bob


Paul M Radecki wrote:

> Ed posted:
>
> > Ok, thanks. I don't have any major custom work done. It turned out
> to
> >be the Fuel Pressure Regulator. Way to go Bob, you hit the nail right
> on
> >the head. I still have the problem I had before but at least it runs.
> >Thanks again everyone (especially Bob)
>
> So, on a scale of 1 - 12, how many beers to replace a FPR? Or did
> you punt and take it to a mechanic? That's the next component I plan to
> replace on my '94 in my quest to track down the miss we've been
> discussing, and while I'm certain that I can take it apart (anything can
> be taken apart with a hammer and a grinder ) I really don't want
> to screw up the re-install. Pressurized gasoline spewing about in the
> engine compartment is BAD...
>
> lordjanusz juno.com
> '94 F-150 300ci
> '73 F-100 FE in pieces
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:58:50 -0700
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - HELP!!!!

Well I'll be darned...
Learn something new everyday...

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From: FLR150 aol.com
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - HELP!!!!


>In a message dated 10/3/99 6:41:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>rspasoje mindspring.com writes:
>
>
> >>
>Rade,
>I beg to differ my good man. I personally have a 1994 (March manufacture
>date) that came from the factory with Massair. I have also worked on 3
other
>1994 F150's, varying manufacture dates, that also came with Massair. The
ways
>to get Massair on 1994 F150s was one of three ways, 1. To have purchased it
>in California, 2. To have purchased it in the Northeast, 3. To have ordered
a
>conversion package such as a Mark III or similar name. Of course this means
a
>LOT of trucks from 1994 had Massair.
>My .02 ,
>Wayne Foy
>'94 Flareside SC
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:54:51 -0700
From: "Pat Mack"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1985 F150 Fuel Guage Problem

Thanks Todd! Looks like I'll be using the trip meter for fill ups too.
- --
LT Patrick V Mack
NPS Monterey,CA


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>From: "McMahon, Todd R."
>To: "'80-96-list ford-trucks.com'"
>Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 1985 F150 Fuel Guage Problem
>Date: Mon, Oct 4, 1999, 9:26 AM
>

> Pat,
>
> Just FYI, there IS a design problem with the tank sending units.
> It is actually VERY possible that BOTH sending units are bad.
> The real problem however is the cost of these units. Both
> sending units in my vehicle are bad, so I use the second
> tank as a reserve, and fill up whenever I have to switch tanks.
> The sending units are also an in-tank fuel pump, and cost about
> $300 each. This is why they haven't been replaced yet.
>
> Good Luck...
>
> Todd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Mack [mailto:patmack2 earthlink.net]
> I have the optional rear tank,
> and both tanks read incorrectly on the gauge. That should rule out the
> sender(s). Any idea how I would check the gauge????
>
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> NPS Monterey,CA
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:56:40 -0500
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Miss in engine

OK guys, don't kill me!!! My sister owns a Toyota Corolla, that overheated
badly, causing me to think it was history. It was the radiator, and after
replacing it, the car would run fine until it warmed up good, then miss
like crazy. Feared the worst!!! Put on new plug wires on a hunch....voila
it's been running ever since.

On my '92 150, I had started getting a bad pinging, then a miss. Before
new wires, I took someone's advice, and seperated my existing wires, both
those things cleared up.

Moral of the story.... Plug wires can do some weird stuff man!!!! Even if
you already did 'em, suspect them!!!!!!

Dave H.
Houston
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 20:19:59 PDT
From: "Michael Schumacher"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - New Question

Hey Guys,

I'm new to this newsletter thing, but I have a question. I have a 93 F-150
5.0, everything stock except I had my exhaust split after the convertor, and
put on a performance muffler. I was wondering if anyone had ideas on how to
pump up my trucks performance, or if anyone had done anything to theirs that
helped out. It runs great and has plenty of power, put I would like that
205 horsepower number to creep up a little. The guy at my shop said the
exhaust should add 5-10 hp, so there is a start. K&N intake kit?

Also, I am a 17 year old guy, who doesn't know much about trucks, but I'm
trying to learn so please take it easy if I ask some dumb questions!

Thanks everyone!
Mike Schumacher
The Yellow Truck

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:02:37 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Independent to Straight Axle?

>Blake:
>
>Is someone selling conversion kits? What is involved in the modification?
>I'd like to learn more about this.
>
>Thanks,
>

Nothing that I know of Todd. Best thing would probably be to set your truck
and a late 70s 4 wheel drive halfton Ford side by side and study the
situation.

Good luck,

Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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