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80-96-list-digest Monday, September 27 1999 Volume 03 : Number 271



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - 1992 Ford F-150 302
Re: FTE 80-96 - timing problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Loud ticking noise
Re: FTE 80-96 - timing problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 Ford F-150 302
FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE 80-96 1994 -96 Ford F-150 302-351
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 Ford F-150 302
FTE 80-96 - Specs for '93 4.9L I6 w/elect 4-spd A/T?
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 Ford F-150 302
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Loud ticking noise
Re: FTE 80-96 - timing problems
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Web site updates

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 09:08:00 -0500
From: Ronnie Doggett
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1992 Ford F-150 302

I can hear water sounds like it is in my dash is this in my heater core
and how can I eliminate it? When I accelerate it sloshes around.

Need Help Ronnie
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:27:16 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - timing problems

At 05:54 26/09/99 -0400, you wrote:
>One thing I am not sure about is the distributor, I am having timing
>problems with the pickup though, I set the timing on friday night, put
>approx 1.5 miles on it, now the timing is advanced to the point where it
>diesel's when I turn it off, considerable ammount of heat was coming
>from under the hood as well...

The excess heat is from having timing so advanced. Fix one and the other
should go away.

>It doesn't matter who I get to set the timing, if i do it myself or have
>a mechanic do it, the result's are always the same, when it is done it
>runs like a new truck, shortly afterwards the timing seems to advance on
>it's own, it doesn't continue advancing though, just to a point to where
>it doesn't run very well.
>
>Has anyone ever seen a similar problem? Could it be the distributor?
>there doesn't seem to be any "play" in it....

Are you using the timing procedure in the factory shop manual, or just
doing it from memory? Sounds like you are not setting base timing properly
and the computer is advancing it from there. Your computer is sufficiently
more sophisticated then my 1980 model, that I can't give you specifics on
that. Perhaps someone with a 1985 model can comment on that...

Are you sure you are locking down the distrubutor in the block?

>One more thing, I got into an argument friday night , you know how
>neighbors are, they were using me as an opportunity to stand around and
>drink beer while I was setting the timing, anyway, two of them thought
>that Ford used timing chain in their six's, while I argued that I
>thought it had gears, who is correct?

Although I have heard others say that their I-6 had a chain, mine has gears.


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:40:39 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Loud ticking noise

At 08:06 25/09/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a 95 302HO crate motor in my 85 F150 that has a ticking noise but I
wouldn't say it was "loud", seems to be comming from the passenger side
rear of the motor. Sounds like a lifter. Let me know what you find out, I
have Ford SS shorty headers with a 3" Y pipe. I was thinking that I haven't
gotten the carb. set up right because I had the same noise on the 6cyl. I
took out, ticking went away when I replaced the 1bbl. carb.

Moe-

Have you listened around with a garden hose as a stethoscope? That helps
narrow things down.

If you pull the valve cover on that side and run the engine, you should be
able to feel the valve rocker that is clicking by placing a finger on each
rocker-arm assembly one at a time. If they are adjustable, just run that
one in a bit and put the cover back on.

If it sounds like a slight exhaust leak, it could be a loose sparkplug.

I can't imagine how it could be carburetor related.

PS - to everyone on the list, my e-mail address has changed. If you want to
contact me off-list and you have the old address stored away, please
replace it with this one: jcannon.ne79 gtalumni.org

Georgia Tech is now offering e-mail for life to alumni. Cool.


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 09:48:21 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - timing problems

Which ignition system do you have, EEC-III or IV? On the IV there is a spout
connector that has to disconnected before timing is set. It disables the
computer form resetting the timing.

Bob


Ron Freidel wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have an 85 F150 with a straight 6; a little history... the person I
> purchased it from said it had a new rebuild on the engine when he bought
> it and he had put 15,000 on it.
>
> It has a new exhaust manifold, carb (2bbl), radiator, and a bunch of new
> stuff.
>
> One thing I am not sure about is the distributor, I am having timing
> problems with the pickup though, I set the timing on friday night, put
> approx 1.5 miles on it, now the timing is advanced to the point where it
> diesel's when I turn it off, considerable ammount of heat was coming
> from under the hood as well...
>
> It doesn't matter who I get to set the timing, if i do it myself or have
> a mechanic do it, the result's are always the same, when it is done it
> runs like a new truck, shortly afterwards the timing seems to advance on
> it's own, it doesn't continue advancing though, just to a point to where
> it doesn't run very well.
>
> Has anyone ever seen a similar problem? Could it be the distributor?
> there doesn't seem to be any "play" in it....
>
> One more thing, I got into an argument friday night , you know how
> neighbors are, they were using me as an opportunity to stand around and
> drink beer while I was setting the timing, anyway, two of them thought
> that Ford used timing chain in their six's, while I argued that I
> thought it had gears, who is correct?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 09:58:56 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 Ford F-150 302

The water in the heater core should be under pressure as you warm up. Unless
you've by passed it for some reason. Turn it on and see if you get that
anti-freeze smell. If you do your core may be leaking.


Bob


Ronnie Doggett wrote:

> I can hear water sounds like it is in my dash is this in my heater core
> and how can I eliminate it? When I accelerate it sloshes around.
>
> Need Help Ronnie
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 14:04:15 EDT
From: DJ250r aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE 80-96 1994 -96 Ford F-150 302-351

What is better on mileage? And what is the better motor?
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 14:04:41 EDT
From: IMATOOLMAN aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 Ford F-150 302

Water may have leak in past your windshield and has now pooled up in the dash
somewhere.
Have you been having a lot of rain where you live?
Toolman
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 16:57:14 -0400
From: Vince Cassisi
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Specs for '93 4.9L I6 w/elect 4-spd A/T?

Below is a copy of the question I posed to the alt.truck.ford discussion
group. Please excuse this if you received it there also. I'm looking
for specs for the 4.9 L I6 engine and the 4 spd elect tranny I have on
the van. Any help would be appreciated greatly.

Regards,
Vince



Subject:
Specs for '93 4.9LI6 w/elect 4-spd A/T?

I have a '93 Clubwagon XLT that I bought new, the 4.9L I6 & electronic
4
speed with OD auto transmission and a 3.08 rear axle. I bought it with
the "towing package" (heavy duty alternator, high cap cooling etc.)
I've been pulling a 3200 pound RV trailer with no problem but would like

to get a larger trailer soon.

Since the van only has some 65,000 miles and I want to keep it, I am
thinking of having the 3.08 changed to maybe a 3.55 to increase the
trailer towing capacity, but I need some info.

I'm looking for specs, or performance curves for the existing setup
(torque curves, fuel consumption, gear ratios with this tranny) to
figure out what the 3.55 would do, of if another ratio would be better.
Does anyone know where I might find the data? I tried Ford but couldn't

fight my way past the "gatekeepers" to the technical folks.

Regards,
Vince Cassisi





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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 17:18:16 EDT
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1992 Ford F-150 302

In a message dated 09/26/1999 10:07:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rdspur alpha1.net writes:


and how can I eliminate it? When I accelerate it sloshes around.
>>
Windshield leaking?

Joe
lost in jersey
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:28:41 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Loud ticking noise

>At 08:06 25/09/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>I have a 95 302HO crate motor in my 85 F150 that has a ticking noise but I
>wouldn't say it was "loud", seems to be comming from the passenger side
>rear of the motor. Sounds like a lifter. Let me know what you find out, I
>have Ford SS shorty headers with a 3" Y pipe. I was thinking that I haven't
>gotten the carb. set up right because I had the same noise on the 6cyl. I
>took out, ticking went away when I replaced the 1bbl. carb.
>

I bet it is where the Y pipe bolts up to a header. I put new shorty headers
on mine and it does it. Not loud at all - kinda lets me know what the load
on the engine is. I think it just needs to be tightened.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."


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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:25:26 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - timing problems

>One more thing, I got into an argument friday night , you know how
>neighbors are, they were using me as an opportunity to stand around and
>drink beer while I was setting the timing, anyway, two of them thought
>that Ford used timing chain in their six's, while I argued that I
>thought it had gears, who is correct?

I believe some have gears and some have chains.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
"Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."


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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:47:46 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Web site updates

The Ford Truck Enthusiasts web site has been updated.

Pictorial section has the following new trucks:
1999 F150
1992 F150
1988 Bronco II
1986 Ranger 4x4
1978 F150
1973 F100

Links Updated:
Misc. Truck Section

New Tech Article
Every once in a while we get an article submission that is
truly exceptional. List member Greg Carter has given us just
that! Check out his "1991 Ford F-250 Build-Up" article in
the tech articles section of the web site covering the
rebuild of a Dana 60 including Detroit Locker and its
installation into a F-250, IFS to Solid front axle, rear disk ....

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