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80-96-list-digest Friday, September 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 253



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Rockers on a 90 5.8L
Re: FTE 80-96 - Speedometer cable
Re: FTE 80-96 - Rockers on a 90 5.8L
Re: FTE 80-96 - Speedometer cable
Re: FTE 80-96 - Rockers on a 90 5.8L
FTE 80-96 - Tailgate trim
FTE 80-96 - '87 Tailgate latch -- HELP!
RE: FTE 80-96 - Tailgate trim
FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-86 - Code Scanners
FTE 80-96 - Sad Ford Aftermarket
RE: FTE 80-96 - '87 Tailgate latch -- HELP!

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 08:49:56 -0400
From: "Golly, Scott M"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Rockers on a 90 5.8L

Good Day Gentlemen and Ladies!

Has anyone ever done roller rockers on these late model ('90) 351s. I am
taking off the valve covers to replace the gaskets and replace the covers
with cast aluminum. Is it worth putting on roller rockers? What is
involved in adjusting them? Any input is appreciated!

PS: I still have a set of 3.55 gears (dana 44 and Ford 8.8) and a Limited
Slip Ford 8.8 carrier if anyone is interested. I also have a set of
extended Rancho Radius arms designed for a 4" lift if anyone needs a set.

Thank you,
Scott M. Golly
Researcher/Fire Protection Engineer
Gollys battelle.org
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:22:27 -0400
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Speedometer cable

> Ok, here's yet another question...
>
> My speedometer is jumping up and down all the time now, so I presume the
> cable is going to break anytime now. This is on my 88 F-150 4x4.
>
> I took the speedometer gear out of the side of the tailhousing on the
> transfer case and the gears appear to be ok. So can I just replace the
> inside of the cable itself just like an regular old one? Does it pull out
> from the top? This thing has some kind of electrical pickup at the
transfer
> case end- what does it do?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Blake
> Little Mountain
> Concord, Ohio


In your case the electronic sensor at the transfer case end is probably for
the cruise control. It's signal also goes to the computer and the dash on
later trucks for transmission control and speedo functions. You can replace
just the core on this type of cable, chances are however that the case has
a groove worn in it at one of the bends. You could try lubricating the
cable with graphite powder. This still involves removing the cable though.
At this point it might be just as easy to install a new one.

Matt

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:12:44 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Rockers on a 90 5.8L

>Good Day Gentlemen and Ladies!
>
>Has anyone ever done roller rockers on these late model ('90) 351s. I am
>taking off the valve covers to replace the gaskets and replace the covers
>with cast aluminum. Is it worth putting on roller rockers? What is
>involved in adjusting them? Any input is appreciated!
>
>PS: I still have a set of 3.55 gears (dana 44 and Ford 8.8) and a Limited
>Slip Ford 8.8 carrier if anyone is interested. I also have a set of
>extended Rancho Radius arms designed for a 4" lift if anyone needs a set.
>

I think when I was at Summit Racing I saw some roller rockers that did not
require machining. They have adjustablility built into them.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."


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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:10:13 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Speedometer cable

>In your case the electronic sensor at the transfer case end is probably for
>the cruise control. It's signal also goes to the computer and the dash on
>later trucks for transmission control and speedo functions. You can replace
>just the core on this type of cable, chances are however that the case has
>a groove worn in it at one of the bends. You could try lubricating the
>cable with graphite powder. This still involves removing the cable though.
>At this point it might be just as easy to install a new one.
>

No cruise on this truck. I wonder if the computer monitors truck speed?
Would it be benificial to change the speedometer drive gears since I have
bigger tires and the speed is off by about 10%. Would it run better or
anything?

I'm gonna stop at NAPA and see if they have a cable core for it. I know
they used to have universal ones that you just cut to length. Probably
should do it before it breaks and can't get it out of there.

Thank you very much.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:53:17 -0700
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Rockers on a 90 5.8L

How much do you want for the arms?

Rade
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From: Golly, Scott M
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 5:47 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Rockers on a 90 5.8L


>Good Day Gentlemen and Ladies!
>
>Has anyone ever done roller rockers on these late model ('90) 351s. I am
>taking off the valve covers to replace the gaskets and replace the covers
>with cast aluminum. Is it worth putting on roller rockers? What is
>involved in adjusting them? Any input is appreciated!
>
>PS: I still have a set of 3.55 gears (dana 44 and Ford 8.8) and a Limited
>Slip Ford 8.8 carrier if anyone is interested. I also have a set of
>extended Rancho Radius arms designed for a 4" lift if anyone needs a set.
>
>Thank you,
>Scott M. Golly
>Researcher/Fire Protection Engineer
>Gollys battelle.org
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 11:55:28 PDT
From: "Jeremy Taylor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tailgate trim

Help guys!

speaking of tailgate trim, i've been looking for the red trim piece (with
the gray backing) for my 88 Lariat since i bought the truck a year ago.
none of the local yards have it and the two yards that had it would only
sell me an entire tailgate. does anybody out there have one they'd be
willing to part with or know where i can get it? i wouldn't mind even
buying the entire brushed aluminum piece if the trim was still attached.

thanks for the help
Jeremy
88 F-250HD, *NEW* 460/C6

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 16:42:16 -0400
From: Jay Snyder
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '87 Tailgate latch -- HELP!

I got the tailgate of my '87 F-150 jammed, left side latched, right side
not, but up tight against my load.

When I tried to open it back up, I couldn't get it unlatched, and upon
pulling harder on the latch handle, broke the left hand side.

Any advice in getting it open, and then in replacing the latch handle?

Thanks,
Jay
'87 F-150


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Jay Snyder
jsnyder microserve.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.microserve.net/~jsnyder
(717)652-3567
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:05:06 -0700
From: Eric Sneed
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Tailgate trim

I hear ya on that one, been looking for the same for my 89 150 all over
the bay area and can only find the whole tailgate. Please let the list
know if you can find a source.

Thanx

Eric

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From: Jeremy Taylor [SMTP:jetman36 hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 11:55 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tailgate trim

Help guys!

speaking of tailgate trim, i've been looking for the red trim
piece (with
the gray backing) for my 88 Lariat since i bought the truck a
year ago.
none of the local yards have it and the two yards that had it
would only
sell me an entire tailgate. does anybody out there have one
they'd be
willing to part with or know where i can get it? i wouldn't
mind even
buying the entire brushed aluminum piece if the trim was still
attached.

thanks for the help
Jeremy
88 F-250HD, *NEW* 460/C6

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 18:54:45 -0400
From: Jay Snyder
Subject: FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-86 - Code Scanners

>You can buy a basic model code scanner for about $40. It will have an
>LED an a buzzer which will require you to count the flashes/beeps. The
>cheapest I have seen the ones that will actually display the code is around
>$120.

How much is everyone willing to pay for one that displays the codes?

I borrowed the flash/beep type from a friend and don't like it, but I'm not
willing to pay $120.

I have already concepted the design for one with a display, or could
even store the codes, and be hooked up to a PC (or a laptop right
at the vehicle) and print out a complete report with all the codes.

I could probably sell such a device for around $80-$100 dollars, depending
on quantity.

If enough interest is expressed, I could have a prototype put together and
tested sometime next month. After testing the prototype, I would take
deposits for production units.

J.
'87 F-150


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jsnyder microserve.net
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:50:25 -0400
From: Greg Carter
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Sad Ford Aftermarket

I sit here working late because I spent another day surfing the web looking
for engine parts when I should have been working...

I have been looking at putting in a built 351w into my truck. About the
best I have found (price wise) is:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford-power.com/365-351W.htm (2399)

but I really want:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford-power.com/350-396W.htm (3199)

which if you add up all the parts, machine shop costs (not including
assembly), is a lot cheaper than I could do myself.

But its still pricey when compared to a Chev and it sucks, and I haven't
even included what it is going to cost me to convert to mass air and upgrade
the EFI (injectors, performance intake...). 8 years ago I rebuilt a 289 for
my Mustang, and I remember having to pay more for parts just because it was
a Ford. I thought back then "boy wont it be great with all these new 5.0
Mustangs and all the new aftermarket parts.", but nothing has changed.

If I had a Chev 350 I could go to the FACTORY and get a bran new 330 hp
engine assembly http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/parts/pdf/008-013.pdf, for just
under $2000. No used block, no used crank, rods, right from the factory.

What does Ford have, an SVO 351 for $4500, sure you get a water pump and
distributor, or I could get the short block with no cam for $1700, what a
deal.

You can get a good set of performance heads (on above engine) from Chev
fully assembled for the 350 for $414 a pair
(http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.paceparts.com/small_block_chevy_heads.htm, part #12558060), you
can't even get one assembled GT-40 head for that.

Am I missing something, just not looking in the right places?

PS, the reason I know about the Chev stuff is because my friend with a Chev
has been nice enough to point out how much cheaper it is.


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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:54:00 -0500
From: "Harris, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - '87 Tailgate latch -- HELP!

The handle linkage should connect right inside the recess for the handle.
The handle is connected to the "pull" rod by a plastic piece. I was able to
reach inside with a pair of pliers and grasp the rod and open the tailgate,
but my gate was not under tension. Make sure you release that pressure
before trying this and breaking the next piece in line. I know Ford has the
plastic piece and it pops right on and the handle will work just fine.

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From: Jay Snyder [mailto:jsnyder microserve.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 3:42 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '87 Tailgate latch -- HELP!


I got the tailgate of my '87 F-150 jammed, left side latched, right side
not, but up tight against my load.

When I tried to open it back up, I couldn't get it unlatched, and upon
pulling harder on the latch handle, broke the left hand side.

Any advice in getting it open, and then in replacing the latch handle?

Thanks,
Jay
'87 F-150


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Jay Snyder
jsnyder ....


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