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80-96-list-digest Thursday, September 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 252



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 to 96 stock wheels available
FTE 80-96 - Tailgate Trim
RE: FTE 80-96 - Need EGRC/EGRV Solenoid set
Re: FTE 80-96 - Instruments
Re: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Injection
FTE 80-96 - Front end questions
Re: FTE 80-96 - Front end questions
Re: FTE 80-96 - Front end questions
Re: FTE 80-96 - Front end questions
FTE 80-96 - Speedometer cable
Re: FTE 80-96 - Front end questions
Re: FTE 80-96 - Tailgate Trim
Re: FTE 80-96 - Instruments

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:19:37 EDT
From: WVAIL3 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 to 96 stock wheels available

I have 4 rims and tires available in CT off a 1988 Bronco ....in good shape
and with a fair amount of tread left on the tires (Shipping plus reasonable
offer takes them)......will sell rims seperately if reqd......
Contact Bud ....at.......WVAIL3 AOL.COM
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:16:30 EDT
From: JDavis1277 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tailgate Trim

My 90 250HD Lariat has a brushed steel trim piece on the tailgate. It is
beginning to show a few scratches and has some unsightly areas where I was
careless and got some wax on it.

I would like to restore the great original appearance to the trim piece. I
know it sounds a little nutty to be concerned about this on a 10 year old
truck, but I am a little bit of a maintenance fanatic and try to keep my
truck looking both original and well kept.

So, how about it... any suggestions?? I have considered using fine steel
wool or Brillo, but don't want to screw it up.

TIA,

Butch
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:55:16 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Need EGRC/EGRV Solenoid set

Can't you "special-order" it from your Ford dealer? Or is that proving to
be cost prohibitive? Another thing to do is to see if the solenoids are
available seperatly, as they might not have the "set" but the solenoids
themselves might be easier to find under their own part numbers. Can you
see the partnumbers on the ones you are attempting to replace?

Good Luck...!

Todd

- -----Original Message-----
From: ROB SARTORIUS [mailto:sartrc interlimits.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 3:25 PM
To: FORD TRUCKS
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Need EGRC/EGRV Solenoid set



Need EGRC/EGRV Solenoid set

FOR A 1984 F-150 351 2BBL
PART NUMBER E4AZ 9D474 B

I CAN'T FIND A USED OR NEW PART ANYWHERE?
I would really like to find this part....let me know if you know of an
aftermarket source.....

THANKS

ROB SARTORIUS

Hand rewiring a 1984 f-150 351 and getting close to the end.......

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:15:20 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Instruments

>Sure I talk too much about oil and grease but an electrician I'm not.
>
>I have an 85 F-150 and the instruments are inconsistant but the temp. oil
>pressure
>an fuel are either too high or too low. I think the fuel gauge or sending
>unit is also wacked
>because full is okay but half tank registers as empty, after half tank I'm
>on dead reckoning.

Why is it that companies forget how to do things right over time? Cheap,
cheap, cheap!! They used to use gauges that lasted longer than the vehicle
and were right on; plus they did not need a computer. I bet the gauges on a
Ford Model A are more accurate and reliable than they are on a new truck.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:17:34 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Injection

>Hello to the list,
>
>I have a chance to put on a fuel injection unit from a 351 cid. The F.I.
>unit is supposed to all there and the price is right. I have an older 302
>cid in my 86 F-150. with a 2 barrel carb.
>
>My questions are will the 351 W manifold bolt up to the 302 block? Is there
>anything special I need to look for as far as the unit being junk? I

I am not sure of all your questions, but I know the manifold will not fit a
302. A 351 is wider between the heads.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:31:50 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Front end questions

I have about 1/8" of slop where the right axle comes out of the front
differential on my 88 F-150. The seal is shot and leaks bad too. So I am
going to be pulling this apart pretty soon and need advice.

Since this is a Dana 44, it should be like regular straight axles 44s that
I have worked on before; I figure as long as the bearings are still good,
the slop should be able to be taken up by adjusting the shims that preload
the tapered roller bearings. That is, unless the axle itself is worn -
which I doubt. From what I understand, there is a C-clip that holds that
one axle in.

Thanks.

Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:03:30 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Front end questions

What timing! I happen to have my 44 on the garage floor, doing a little
upgrade. There is also a roller bearing behind the oil seal on the passenger
side stub axle. There would be that kind of play in the stub axle, it allows
for the removal of the c-clip.

The stub axle will remain in the Dana case for removal. The bearing shims
would not necessarily cause play in the axle. This would be more of the side
gear function. The side gears are shimmed as well.

I'm learning as I go, but it's in pieces on the floor already, so if I can
answer any other question, fire away. I'm sure there are more knowledgeable
people here as well.

Bob


Blake Malkamaki wrote:

> I have about 1/8" of slop where the right axle comes out of the front
> differential on my 88 F-150. The seal is shot and leaks bad too. So I am
> going to be pulling this apart pretty soon and need advice.
>
> Since this is a Dana 44, it should be like regular straight axles 44s that
> I have worked on before; I figure as long as the bearings are still good,
> the slop should be able to be taken up by adjusting the shims that preload
> the tapered roller bearings. That is, unless the axle itself is worn -
> which I doubt. From what I understand, there is a C-clip that holds that
> one axle in.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Blake
> Little Mountain
> Concord, Ohio
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> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
> "Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
> "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."
>
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:12:25 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Front end questions

>What timing! I happen to have my 44 on the garage floor, doing a little
>upgrade. There is also a roller bearing behind the oil seal on the passenger
>side stub axle. There would be that kind of play in the stub axle, it allows
>for the removal of the c-clip.
>
>The stub axle will remain in the Dana case for removal. The bearing shims
>would not necessarily cause play in the axle. This would be more of the side
>gear function. The side gears are shimmed as well.
>
>I'm learning as I go, but it's in pieces on the floor already, so if I can
>answer any other question, fire away. I'm sure there are more knowledgeable
>people here as well.
>
>Bob

Thanks Bob. I need to clarify my explanation a little... The slop in my
passenger side axle shaft is up and down, not in and out of the case. I am
presuming that there is the tapered roller bearing on that side is just too
loose.

I presume the driver's side is just like a regular solid axle front end
where the shaft just pulls out.

Blake

Blake
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:18:24 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Front end questions

>
>
> Thanks Bob. I need to clarify my explanation a little... The slop in my
> passenger side axle shaft is up and down, not in and out of the case

This is not good. From having it apart, the bearing being out and that kind of up
and down play may mean worn side gears. They mesh with the spider gears mounted
on the carrier cross shaft. It's a gear up, a gear down and gears left and right
that are splined for the axles.

You'll have it down that far anyway to replace the roller bearing in the side of
the case.

> I am
> presuming that there is the tapered roller bearing on that side is just too
> loose.
>
> I presume the driver's side is just like a regular solid axle front end
> where the shaft just pulls out.

Correct.


>
>
> Blake
> Little Mountain
> Concord, Ohio
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> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
> "Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
> "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."
>
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:18:30 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Speedometer cable

Ok, here's yet another question...

My speedometer is jumping up and down all the time now, so I presume the
cable is going to break anytime now. This is on my 88 F-150 4x4.

I took the speedometer gear out of the side of the tailhousing on the
transfer case and the gears appear to be ok. So can I just replace the
inside of the cable itself just like an regular old one? Does it pull out
from the top? This thing has some kind of electrical pickup at the transfer
case end- what does it do?

Thanks.


Blake
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Concord, Ohio
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:13:25 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Front end questions

>>
>>
>> Thanks Bob. I need to clarify my explanation a little... The slop in my
>> passenger side axle shaft is up and down, not in and out of the case
>
>This is not good. From having it apart, the bearing being out and that
>kind of up
>and down play may mean worn side gears. They mesh with the spider gears
>mounted
>on the carrier cross shaft. It's a gear up, a gear down and gears left and
>right
>that are splined for the axles.
>
>You'll have it down that far anyway to replace the roller bearing in the
>side of
>the case.
>

Thanks. I guess I will just have to wait until I have it torn down.
Hopefully it is not going to be a big money repair. Sure wish it was a
regular Dana 44 instead of the dumb independent thing.


Blake
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 00:09:44 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tailgate Trim

At 09:16 08/09/99 EDT, you wrote:
>My 90 250HD Lariat has a brushed steel trim piece on the tailgate. It is
>beginning to show a few scratches and has some unsightly areas where I was
>careless and got some wax on it.
>
>I would like to restore the great original appearance to the trim piece. I
>know it sounds a little nutty to be concerned about this on a 10 year old
>truck, but I am a little bit of a maintenance fanatic and try to keep my
>truck looking both original and well kept.
>
>So, how about it... any suggestions?? I have considered using fine steel
>wool or Brillo, but don't want to screw it up.
>
Butch-
You can remove the wax and other stains by brushing WITH THE GRAIN with a
BRASS wire brush. The are available in many sizes at Home Depot, Lowes,
etc. I preser the smaller ones with the very fine brass wires. I use them
on a lot of different things while I restore old cars because the brass
wire is softer than steel wire brush, so less likely to scratch.

You could probably locally brush with the grain with a steel wire brush
over the scratched areas to remove or hide them. I have never tried this,
so I am not certain what it would look like.
Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 00:17:21 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Instruments

The guage on my 1929 Model A is, without a doubt, the most accurate guage
of any vehicle I own! Until the cork in there gets saturated with fuel and
literally falls apart, it registers exactly what is in the tank.

Actually, I have found GM guages to be pretty good, better than Ford. (Sorry.)

At 12:15 08/09/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>Sure I talk too much about oil and grease but an electrician I'm not.
>>
>>I have an 85 F-150 and the instruments are inconsistant but the temp. oil
>>pressure
>>an fuel are either too high or too low. I think the fuel gauge or sending
>>unit is also wacked
>>because full is okay but half tank registers as empty, after half tank I'm
>>on dead reckoning.
>
>Why is it that companies forget how to do things right over time? Cheap,
>cheap, cheap!! They used to use gauges that lasted longer than the vehicle
>and were right on; plus they did not need a computer. I bet the gauges on a
>Ford Model A are more accurate and reliable than they are on a new truck.
>
>
>Blake
>Little Mountain
>Concord, Ohio
>Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake....


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