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80-96-list-digest Wednesday, September 8 1999 Volume 03 : Number 251



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Stock wheels wanted
FTE 80-96 - Mazda 5 speed manual, strength?
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Power Steering Box Seal
FTE 80-96 - Cooling fan removal
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cooling fan removal
FTE 80-96 - 96 F-150
FTE 80-96 - Milemarker winch and AGR Steering pump
FTE 80-96 - 96 F-150
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cooling fan removal
Re: FTE 80-96 - Stock wheels wanted
FTE 80-96 - ignition switch
Re: FTE 80-96 - 96 F-150
FTE 80-96 - Need EGRC/EGRV Solenoid set
FTE 80-96 - Fuel injection - '93 F150 302ci.
FTE 80-96 - Testing temperature gauge
RE: FTE 80-96 - ignition switch

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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 07:54:26 -0400
From: Irvine Family
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Stock wheels wanted

Anyone who has the original 15 X 5.5 wheels that came on the 1980
E/F-100 (and hubcaps etc.) hanging around their garage taking up
space... I'll take them off your hands (I'll pay for shipping and a
reasonable price for the wheels). I'm sure someone has these wheels
lying around after trading up to bigger wheels.

Thanks,
Bruce Irvine

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:41:59 -0400
From: Greg Carter
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Mazda 5 speed manual, strength?

Hi,

I've got one of these in my '91 F-250 4x4. I am going ahead with a 351w
swap (302 now). Are there any concerns with the strength of this
transmission? Was it offered with a 351w? If not what manual was?

So far it has worked fine behind the gutless 302. But I plan to build the
351 a bit... perhaps gt-40 heads, and maybe a 'stroker' to 416 cu in.

Will the flywheel from the 302 fit the 351? I just did a clutch job last
year and had the fly wheel resurfaced, so would like to reuse it if I can
stay with this transmission. I know when I redid the clutch I had ordered
one for a 302/Mazda but when it showed up it wasn't the same as the one I
had. After I brought it in they told me the clutch was for a 351w, I
replaced it with the same kind.

Thanks.
Bye.
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:23:26 -0400
From: Greg Carter
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Power Steering Box Seal

No it was me who suggested the screw technique. However I left out that you
were to drill a pilot hole through the metal washer. As I said I used the
'blow out' technique of removing the c-clip and then starting the engine and
turning the wheel, messy but fast. The screw technique was suggested to me
by a ford mechanic, but I didn't want to try it myself in fear of drilling
too far...

Bye.

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From: Mark Salvetti [mailto:msalvetti mediaone.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 7:54 PM
To: Ford Trucks 80-96; dharmier gte.net
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Power Steering Box Seal


Dave, as far as using a screw to get the sector shaft seal out, having just
gone through this I don't see how it would work.

On my truck, the first seal behind the circlip was the dust seal, which is a
fairly thick metal washer covered with a thin layer of rubber. I don't see
how you'd easily get a screw into it.

It was either Greg Carter or RiTruckGuy (Dave?) who suggested going in from
the top. I took the two bolts off the top cover, tapped the sector shaft
lightly from underneath with a block of wood, and out everything came. Now
it's real easy to get at the lower seals.

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:28:03 -0500
From: Scott Lackey
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Cooling fan removal

Any one have any special tricks to remove the screw-on thermostatic
cooling fan, Chiltons/Hayden shows a special ford tool to do the job.
I hate to buy a tool for just one job or take it in to get something
done that I can do myself. So I am looking for a way to get it done!


Scott L
87 Ford SuperCab 300 6



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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 08:42:22 PDT
From: "Chance Wolf"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cooling fan removal

I had the same problem and the only way that I found was to get the
tool......but I borrowed mine from the local ford dealership which offers a
tool borrowing program after hours....

Try your local Ford Dealership...a little beggin and alot of persuasion...




>From: Scott Lackey
>Reply-To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Cooling fan removal
>Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:28:03 -0500
>
>Any one have any special tricks to remove the screw-on thermostatic
>cooling fan, Chiltons/Hayden shows a special ford tool to do the job.
>I hate to buy a tool for just one job or take it in to get something
>done that I can do myself. So I am looking for a way to get it done!
>
>
>Scott L
>87 Ford SuperCab 300 6
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:50:21 -0500
From: "Nathan A. Goins"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 96 F-150

Hello Fellas,

I was hoping somebody has the horsepower and torque specs for the 96 model 300 I6 with the
5 speed. I also was considering an engine swap for a 5.8, anybody had experience with this? Easier to swap engines or
whole trucks? Ford Motorsports sells a complete engine for 2100, sounds like a hell of a deal.

Thanks,

Nathan Goins
96 F-150 300I6 EB

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:19:56 -0400
From: Greg Carter
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Milemarker winch and AGR Steering pump

Hi,

Last year I installed the Milemarker 10500 lb 2 speed winch ($729 with free
shipping from Summit, if you bargain a bit) on my '91 F250 and ran it a
while with the stock power steering pump.

Well performance wasn't all that great, it would stall out, really slow, had
to rev the engine just to get it pull with any power, and forget about
steering while winching.

I installed an AGR pump and got to test out the winch this weekend, with
white cley mud over the top of my 35" swampers (Friends "That mud hole is
deep, you'll sink like a rock" ... me - "Hmm that mud hole doesn't look so
hard"... followed by Friends laughing as I drove in and immediately sank...)
I rolled out about 50 feet of cable. It pulled like never before, it was
pretty impressive. I could even steer while winching, at idle. No reving
required. It was great, I didn't even bother putting it in gear to help the
winch. My friend commented that he didn't think his SuperWinch 9000
electric would have done as good a job. The AGR pump makes power steering
so effortless its almost a little too easy.

If you have a hydraulic and aren't happy with the performance I would try
the AGR pumps for sure. However even though Milemarker claims a cooler
isn't necessary, I have a small auto trans cooler in the loop just to make
sure.
Bye.
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 13:27:00 -0400
From: slikness mindspring.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 96 F-150

I did a 300 I6 to 5.8 swap, but it was in my '82 F150. Biggest pain form me was the front end accessories. You either need to go with some aftermarket brackets, pull the brackets from a junker, or get factory replacements from Ford (Ford did not make the brackets anymore for the '82). Motor mounts are fairly easy to change out, trannies will probably swap OK, you'll need a new flexplate as there is a difference in how the engines are balanced, new routing for all the smog and vacuum stuff, new radiator, exhaust system, etc.

Good luck and let us know how it's progressing.

Slik

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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:01:42 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cooling fan removal

The purpose of the tool is to hold the pulley steady and turn the LH thread
nut on the fan. I backed 2 pulley bolts out enough to put a screwdriver
between them for leverage and used a big crescent wrench.


Bob


Scott Lackey wrote:

> Any one have any special tricks to remove the screw-on thermostatic
> cooling fan, Chiltons/Hayden shows a special ford tool to do the job.
> I hate to buy a tool for just one job or take it in to get something
> done that I can do myself. So I am looking for a way to get it done!
>
> Scott L
> 87 Ford SuperCab 300 6
>
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:13:51 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Stock wheels wanted

Go to my webpage and look at my stock rims (before the lift) I have five
with 4 chrome rings, but no center caps, still mounted to 31" tires. You can
have them for shipping.

Bob
Olympia, Wa

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Irvine Family wrote:

> Anyone who has the original 15 X 5.5 wheels that came on the 1980
> E/F-100 (and hubcaps etc.) hanging around their garage taking up
> space... I'll take them off your hands (I'll pay for shipping and a
> reasonable price for the wheels). I'm sure someone has these wheels
> lying around after trading up to bigger wheels.
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce Irvine
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:51:45 -0700
From: Eric Sneed
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ignition switch

Looking for some help,
A friend just called me and asked if I could help her get her car going,
it seems that when she puts the key in the ignition it just turns freely
without starting the car. She says that when it first happened last
night the car kept running after she took the key out, and that the car
is stuck in the "on" position. I am trying to get an idea of what I'm
getting myself into before I get there. Any help would be appreciated
greatly.
By the way in keeping with the Ford subject matter, the car is 90 or 91
Ford escort.
Thanks again

Eric
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 14:48:49 -0700
From: "Rob Bryan"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 96 F-150

> I was hoping somebody has the horsepower and torque specs for the 96 model
> 300 I6 with the
> 5 speed. I also was considering an engine swap for a 5.8, anybody had
> experience with this? Easier to swap engines or
> whole trucks? Ford Motorsports sells a complete engine for 2100, sounds
> like a hell of a deal.

Either 145 hp / 265 ft/lb or 150hp/260 ft/lb, depending on gear ratio. I
believe that the 145hp engine was paired with 2.73 or 3.08 gears and any
other gear ratio got the 150hp engine.

Rob
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:25:22 -0500
From: "ROB SARTORIUS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Need EGRC/EGRV Solenoid set

Need EGRC/EGRV Solenoid set

FOR A 1984 F-150 351 2BBL
PART NUMBER E4AZ 9D474 B

I CAN'T FIND A USED OR NEW PART ANYWHERE?
I would really like to find this part....let me know if you know of an
aftermarket source.....

THANKS

ROB SARTORIUS

Hand rewiring a 1984 f-150 351 and getting close to the end.......

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:10:42 EDT
From: Spruce1495 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fuel injection - '93 F150 302ci.

I am seeking info on rich and lean mixture control, if any, with this f.i.
system. All of a sudden my power has dropped, and my fuel mileage has gotten
about 25% better. I can't complain about the mileage, but I sure do miss the
power. I checked the plugs and altho they have been installed about 6000
miles, they are as clean as they were in the box. Absolutely no discoloration
or deposits on porcelain or electrode. I am getting some "pinging" which
could be lean mix, lack of power(again, lean mix). Haven't looked at codes,
nor spent any time with Ford garage, yet. Don't really want to. Any
suggestions? I'm a good listener. Waiting.
Bill B., Radcliff,KY
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 22:23:45 EDT
From: craig n eggerman
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Testing temperature gauge

Another way to test the gauge is with an oven thermometer set on top of
the radiator. I have compared the readings with a gauge in the cab and
they are pretty close. Cover the radiator to heat up the engine and race
the engine a little. Depending on the thermostat the NORMAL on the gauge
reads out the following 0=170, R=190, M=200, A=210, L=220 The far right
hash line is 240. Above this and it boils over with a 13 psi radiator
cap. This is also a good way to test the fan clutch. It should kick in,
start to roar, at about 210.
Craig
Eggerman juno.com
Casper,Wyoming
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:55:05 -0500
From: "Harris, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - ignition switch

Same thing happened to my '85 F150. First time it was the end of the
ignition tumbler that broke off and left the truck "on". Underneath where
you put the key in is a pin hole, stick something up there and it releases
the tumbler and you can pull it out.(Key must be in and in the "on"
position). If it is not broken when you pull it out, it may be the
interlock that releases the wheel and the gear selector. Ford must have had
big problems with this because when i finally found the broken piece I went
to the dealer expecting him not to have it and the parts guy reached in a
drawer and tossed one to me. The broken interlock piece took me several
hours of destroying the steering column to get to it.

These are a couple of areas to look at.....

- -----Original Message-----
From: Eric Sneed [mailto:ESneed reil.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 4:52 PM
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ignition switch



Looking for some help,
A friend just called me and asked if I could help her get her car going,
it seems that when she puts the key in the ignition it just turns freely
without starting the car. She says that when it first happened last
night the car kept running after she took the key out, and that the car
is stuck in the "on" position. I am trying to get an idea of what I'm....


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