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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Need 1 16" steel wheel
FTE 80-96 - Diesel pump setting
Re: FTE 80-96 - cat converter
FTE 80-96 - RE: Fuel Filter Change in PSD
Re: FTE 80-96 - Need 1 16" steel wheel
FTE 80-96 - Silicone
RE: FTE 80-96 - Silicone
Re: FTE 80-96 - Silicone
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Excursion Press Release
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Fuel Filter Change in PSD
FTE 80-96 - dash repair
FTE 80-96 - RE: Bigger Tires...Mileage
FTE 80-96 - Re:cat converter
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Bigger Tires...Mileage
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Bigger Tires...Mileage
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:cat converter
Re: FTE 80-96 - cat converter
FTE 80-96 - Off for a few days
FTE 80-96 - Bearing surface discoloration

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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:32:59 -0400
From: Andrew T Vincitore
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Need 1 16" steel wheel

Anybody got a new or mint 8 lug 16" steel wheel for my 92 F-250 2wd? See=
ms
I have a bent one on the truck. Let me know here or e-mail me direct.
Thanks,

Andrew

1992 F-250 2WD Supercab
Piano truck, family car, etc. etc etc.
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 06:42:59 -0500
From: Bill Sample
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Diesel pump setting

Want to crank up the pump setting on my 86 6.9 a bit. My Chiltons does
not show how to do it (probably for a very good reason!). I am assuming
it is the screw with a jam nut protruding from the rear of the pump. If
this is the case which way do I turn it up to increase fuel? What
increments should I start with (eg. 1/8th, 1/4, etc.. turn). I am
getting little or no black smoke at full throttle with a heavy load.
Pulling a boat that weighs about 8,500 lbs. just does not perform like
the last one I had.
Thanks for any advice..
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:59:51 -0500
From: "Allen Collins"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - cat converter

Hello Slik,
Did you use a bolt in system or get someone to weld it up for you? Did you
install a crossover? How well did the headers fit? Did you need to move
anything or dimple a header for them to fit? Will you have to drop a header
in order to pull the starter? Would you do this system again or change it?

Sorry about all the questions, just trying to make an informed decision.

Thanks

Al
- ----- Original Message -----
From: slik
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 3:39 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - cat converter


> I put true duals on my '82 F150. Started with Doug Thorley headers,
crossed
> over under the tranny tail shaft to avoid my 2nd gas tank, used 2 -12"
long
> Dynomax cats, used 1 "dual in, dual out" Flowmaster, crossed back over
> before the rear axle, and straight out the back; all 2 1/4".
>
> Slik
>
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:55:58 -0600
From: "Smeins, Larry"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Fuel Filter Change in PSD

Chuck,
Go to www.ford -diesel. com and do a search in the 94-97 forum for fuel
filters. You'll find lots of info. Changing the filter is really very
easy. Should take less than 15 minutes but there are some other things to
check while you are in there.

Larry

> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:50:19 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Chris Foye
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Filter Change in PSD
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I have a later model PSD and I have found in the last
> few weeks that the Fuel Filter idiot light will come
> on during hard acceleration usually during a downshift
> and climbing. Happens especially during towing. So,
> I want to change it out. I've already drained it but,
> I'm still experiencing the same problem.
> Does anybody know how to change the fuel filter?
> Proper procedure, I sure will make this a whole lot
> less painful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 09:50:03 -0700
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need 1 16" steel wheel

If you get no better offers, try http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ackerwheel.com/


Andrew T Vincitore wrote:

> Anybody got a new or mint 8 lug 16" steel wheel for my 92 F-250 2wd? Seems
> I have a bent one on the truck. Let me know here or e-mail me direct.
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
>
> 1992 F-250 2WD Supercab
> Piano truck, family car, etc. etc etc.
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 10:08:41 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Silicone

>Personally, I don't like silicone sealers 'cause they're hard to >remove.
>Permatex "Form-A-Gasket" #2B works for me. Don't have to mess around >with that bead stuff either.....just smear it on.


I like silicone as a gasket sealer but not as a gasket.
Made a gasket of silicone for the cover on a Dana 44 a
while back .Didn't leak a drop for about a year and then
one morning walked into garage ands ther was about a pint
of 90wt. on the floor.The silicone failed while the truck
was parked.What a mess.
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:42:05 -0600
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Silicone

Silicone RTV is great stuff, but you are correct, it is not very stiff like
a gasket and I would avoid using it where it gets thick and use it in
conjunction with a normal gasket. If you want to be able to remove it easier
you can smear a little silicone mold release agent on the metal surface
before you lay the gasket, smeared with silicone RTV, on the metal surface
so if you ever have to take it off it will peel right off. Silicone mold
release is available from Dow Corning but I am not sure who would sell it
locally. (I received a free sample of it large enough to last a lifetime
after calling them from work and showed an interest in using it) It may be
possible to use something like motor oil or a silicone based oil to do the
same thing. Some oils may actually dissolve the silicone so testing may be
prudent. I would think motor oil is not a problem since it is often used
with it.

The silicone does not have to bond to the metal to seal, as long as it takes
up the voids and irregularities in the surface it is a huge improvement.

I install them like this except I don't tighten the mounting screws to the
final torque until the RTV has cured. This provides a little more squeeze
(pressure) on the gasket.

- -----Original Message-----
From: J.S.H. [SMTP:F428 ford-trucks.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 11:09 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Silicone

>Personally, I don't like silicone sealers 'cause they're hard to >remove.
>Permatex "Form-A-Gasket" #2B works for me. Don't have to mess around >with
that bead stuff either.....just smear it on.


I like silicone as a gasket sealer but not as a gasket.
Made a gasket of silicone for the cover on a Dana 44 a
while back .Didn't leak a drop for about a year and then
one morning walked into garage ands ther was about a pint
of 90wt. on the floor.The silicone failed while the truck
was parked.What a mess.
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:08:08 -0500
From: Brent McNabb
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Silicone

On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 10:08:41 -0700, J.S.H. wrote:

>>Personally, I don't like silicone sealers 'cause they're hard to >remove.
>>Permatex "Form-A-Gasket" #2B works for me. Don't have to mess around >with that bead stuff either.....just smear it on.
>
>
>I like silicone as a gasket sealer but not as a gasket.
>Made a gasket of silicone for the cover on a Dana 44 a
>while back .Didn't leak a drop for about a year and then
>one morning walked into garage ands ther was about a pint
> of 90wt. on the floor.The silicone failed while the truck
>was parked.What a mess.

Well, I visited NAPA yesterday looking for the aforementioned Permatex
#2B, and while there, and told them what I was working on. A person
there had a '86 F-150 too, and knew that NAPA sold a gasket that would
fit the 8.8". He brought out three, and one was exactly the right fit.
I had bought a McCord years back that didn't, and my Haynes didn't
mention a gasket being used on the cover. The NAPA gasket was a Victor
Reinz made by Dana, and was a metal skeleton with a cork/rubber
covering. Coated the machined face of the housing, and the cover with
the #2B, stuck the gasket on, then the cover, and torqued all the bolts
down to 35 pounds, no leak so far. I did find another alternative to
silicone, Permatex has made a sealant in a bottle, specifically foam.
You spray on a bead, let sit for 10 minutes, then install. One can
makes 8 to 10 gaskets, according to the label. I have yet to try it
out, though.

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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 16:04:00 -0400
From: kpayne ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Excursion Press Release

The news section of the web site now contains Ford press
releases for the 2000 Excursion. This is a series of
several articles plus photos. Everything you always
wanted to know about Excursions but were afraid to ask!

Ken Payne
Admin
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:50:36 MDT
From: "Kris Heslop"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Fuel Filter Change in PSD

Now this makes more sense, only on a diesel can you drain the filter. Does anyone know the proper procedure for changing a gas filter?

Kris
92 E-350

- ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Smeins, Larry"
Reply-To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:55:58 -0600

>
Chuck,
Go to www.ford -diesel. com and do a search in the 94-97 forum for fuel
filters. You'll find lots of info. Changing the filter is really very
easy. Should take less than 15 minutes but there are some other things to
check while you are in there.

Larry

> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:50:19 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Chris Foye
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Filter Change in PSD
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I have a later model PSD and I have found in the last
> few weeks that the Fuel Filter idiot
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:44:48 -0500
From: "Waddell"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - dash repair

Has anyone repaired the cracks in their dash using over the counter
materials and repainted? It sits alot in direct sunlite.

thanks for your replys
Larry

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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:21:25 -0700
From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Bigger Tires...Mileage

Jim,

What year is your truck.....? What transmission ? O.D.?

31x10.5's fit on my 85 but the left front does rub the radius arm at full
left tilt. 32's will fit as long as you don't turn your wheels too far or
use all of the suspension.

Mileage will depend on what speed you drive at on the freeway [and your
engine/tranny combo] which equates to a certain rpm. If your engine/tranny
combo keeps the engine in it's sweet spot on the torque curve you may gain
some mileage. If it lowers the rpm too much and the engine is lugging all
the time or downshifting you'll loose mph. This is especially true if you
live in a hilly area, a lot of downshifting etc.....

On my 85, manual O.D. tranny, changing out the gear to correct the
speedometer for the tires is as simple as it could be. At most, 5-10
minutes job, one screw.

[snip]

> From: "Perkins, James"
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bigger Tires?
>
> I am about to start driving my truck to work 50 miles roundtrip every day
> and am thinking about trying to increase my gas mileage however I can.
> [snip]
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 20:48:46 -0700
From: "slik"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re:cat converter

> Did you use a bolt in system or get someone to weld it up for you?
I took it to a muffler shop, so it was all custom bent.

> Did you install a crossover?
I did not have a standard crossover, however I did cross over to the
passenger side behind the tranny until after the muffler, then crossed over
again.

> How well did the headers fit?

The headers fit like a glove. Everything was just in the right place. Only
problem is getting to some of the header bolts to get them torqued down.

>Did you need to move anything or dimple a header for them to fit?

Nope, they bolted right in!!

>Will you have to drop a header in order to pull the starter?

Already changed out the starter once and no problem. A little tight, but
still plenty of room to get it out and back in again, it maybe added 5
minutes to the job.

> Would you do this system again or change it?

Yeah, it's a first class system. I'd add an h-pipe before the cats and try
to find someplace that would mandel bend the pipe. And I would get the
headers jet coated before putting them on.

Slik


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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 19:12:59 PDT
From: "Brandon Montz"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Bigger Tires...Mileage

I own a 1995 F-150 and am looking to put bigger tires on it. I was thinking
about 33 x 12.5! I was told that I need a three inch body lift to clear 31's
only. Is that all my truck can clear with three inches? I hear of people
putting 31 x 10.5 without a lift so I am just a little curious. If you have
any thoughts on this let me know!


>From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
>Reply-To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>To: "'80-96-list ford-trucks.com'"
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Bigger Tires...Mileage
>Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:21:25 -0700
>
>Jim,
>
>What year is your truck.....? What transmission ? O.D.?
>
>31x10.5's fit on my 85 but the left front does rub the radius arm at full
>left tilt. 32's will fit as long as you don't turn your wheels too far or
>use all of the suspension.
>
>Mileage will depend on what speed you drive at on the freeway [and your
>engine/tranny combo] which equates to a certain rpm. If your engine/tranny
>combo keeps the engine in it's sweet spot on the torque curve you may gain
>some mileage. If it lowers the rpm too much and the engine is lugging all
>the time or downshifting you'll loose mph. This is especially true if you
>live in a hilly area, a lot of downshifting etc.....
>
>On my 85, manual O.D. tranny, changing out the gear to correct the
>speedometer for the tires is as simple as it could be. At most, 5-10
>minutes job, one screw.
>
>[snip]
>
> > From: "Perkins, James"
> > Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bigger Tires?
> >
> > I am about to start driving my truck to work 50 miles roundtrip every
>day
> > and am thinking about trying to increase my gas mileage however I can.
> > [snip]
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 22:33:16 -0400
From: Bruce Ramirez
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Bigger Tires...Mileage

I have 32-11.5R15's on my 1991 F-150 4x4 without an body or suspension
lift. They only rub against the arms in tight turns such as when
parking. You will need a 4 inch lift if you want to clear 33's without
any rubbing.

Bruce Ramirez
1991 F-150 4x4

Brandon Montz wrote:
>
> I own a 1995 F-150 and am looking to put bigger tires on it. I was thinking
> about 33 x 12.5! I was told that I need a three inch body lift to clear 31's
> only. Is that all my truck can clear with three inches? I hear of people
> putting 31 x 10.5 without a lift so I am just a little curious. If you have
> any thoughts on this let me know!
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:09:50 -0500
From: "Allen Collins"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:cat converter

Thanks for the info,

Al
- ----- Original Message -----
From: slik
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 10:48 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re:cat converter


> > Did you use a bolt in system or get someone to weld it up for you?
> I took it to a muffler shop, so it was all custom bent.
>
> > Did you install a crossover?
> I did not have a standard crossover, however I did cross over to the
> passenger side behind the tranny until after the muffler, then crossed
over
> again.
>
> > How well did the headers fit?
>
> The headers fit like a glove. Everything was just in the right place.
Only
> problem is getting to some of the header bolts to get them torqued down.
>
> >Did you need to move anything or dimple a header for them to fit?
>
> Nope, they bolted right in!!
>
> >Will you have to drop a header in order to pull the starter?
>
> Already changed out the starter once and no problem. A little tight, but
> still plenty of room to get it out and back in again, it maybe added 5
> minutes to the job.
>
> > Would you do this system again or change it?
>
> Yeah, it's a first class system. I'd add an h-pipe before the cats and
try
> to find someplace that would mandel bend the pipe. And I would get the
> headers jet coated before putting them on.
>
> Slik
>
>
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:06:35 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - cat converter

In a message dated 9/1/99 9:45:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rbryan netgate.net writes:


removed >>
Sorry, I hate to say this...BUT YOU ARE WRONG!!! I have hit that big bump and
lost my cats. I had it smogged right afterward and my truck, with many
performance mods, passed with flying colors. As a matter of fact, it was
burning cleaner than stock. If you haven't seen the results, don't guess. Get
facts!
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
Wayne's Page
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:42:52 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Off for a few days

Gang,
Well this is just a note to let you know that I will be off-line for a few
days. I have gotten a promotion and am in the process of moving to my much
larger, much nicer complex in Dunwoody, GA. This comes with a $3 an hour
raise and double the bonus potential I had. This is a big step for me and I
plan on making sure I don't miss the step!!! I will send another email to let
you all know when I am back on-line. Hope I don't experience and NET
withdrawals.....I can feel the shakes coming on already!!!
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:25:52 -0700
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bearing surface discoloration

I pulled the drivers side hub and spindle apart tonight to repack the bears
in preparation for my Rubicon trip next week. I noticed that on the spindle
where both the outer and inner bearing rides there is some discoloration
that looks almost like burn mark (except they are brownish). Anyway, there....


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