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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - 2 cents
FTE 80-96 - Turn signal problem solved
FTE 80-96 - '93 Transfer Case Won't Transfer
RE: FTE 80-96 - 2 cents
FTE 80-96 - Axle Code
Re: FTE 80-96 - Axle Code
FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...
Re: FTE 80-96 - Axle Code
RE: FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...
FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milege
RE: FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...
FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milage on my 87
RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milege
Re: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milage on my 87
RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milege
RE: FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...
RE: FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...
Re: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milage on my 87
FTE 80-96 - well guys its been fun..
RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milege
Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Submit your technical articles!
FTE 80-96 - 2WD Ground Clearance/Capability
RE: FTE 80-96 - 2 cents
Re: FTE 80-96 - Hyperactive Speedometer...
Re: FTE 80-96 - 2WD Ground Clearance/Capability
Re: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milage on my 87
Re: FTE 80-96 - Turn signal problem solved
Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Submit your technical articles!
FTE 80-96 - SOS - Any easy way to diagnose bad rear main bearing?
RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milage on my 87
RE: FTE 80-96 - 2 cents
FTE 80-96 - (no subject)

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:29:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher Tirone
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 2 cents

IMHO, the occasional off-subject post is a good thing
for this list. The subject is Ford trucks, but where
else can we gather Ford truck owners together so
easily and share what's on our minds BESIDES our
obsession with our trucks. The fact that you're a Ford
truck owner says something about who you are, so when
an event happens that strikes a nerve and you need to
vent, why not amongst friends? As long as it doesn't
take over, I'm all for it...

Greenman

P.S. If your idea of "loading the dishwasher" is
getting your wife drunk, you might be a redneck...


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:36:24 -0700
From: "Ken Brayton"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Turn signal problem solved

Wish to express my thanks to all who contributed ideas on
how to resolve my turn signal problem. All of them helped me
eliminate potential problems, but none of them really solved
it. It turned out to be the switch mechanism on the steering
column. It looked like the previous owner had tampered with
it and the emergency flasher appeared to be held in an off
position with a screw screwed into the plastic housing.
There was also something like oil or melted grease all
around the edge of the switch. I started checking each wire
in the wiring harness and discovered that there was current
to the switch and was also able to make the blinkers blink.
After pulling the switch I opened it up (hey, what did I
have to loose?) and found someone had tried lubricating the
mechanism with oil or possibly WD40. Also, one of the
components was not sitting in there correctly. Put it back
together and the blinkers started working but the emergency
flasher button was shot. $75.00 poorer, I now have a new
unit that is fully functional. Thanks again for your help.

Two new questions resulted from this process:

1) How do you get the ignition switch off so that you can
completely remove the plastic cover?
2) The horn doesn't work. In a previous post, I thought
someone mentioned something about a spring that passes
current from the steering wheel to the steering column. Is
this the way it's done on a 94 truck, and if so, where is it
located? I can't seem to find it, but then, I can't get the
cover off either!

Ken Brayton
Albany, Oregon
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:49:32 -0400
From: "Michael Zamalis"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '93 Transfer Case Won't Transfer

I've got a '93 F150 4x4, 5.0, with an E4OD and an electronic shift transfer
case.

Over the last several months, the transfer case would sometimes work and
sometimes it wouldn't. When it used to work and I'd push the 4x4 button I
could hear something that sounded like a relay clicking up under the glove
box just before the case would shift. Now when I push the button - Nothing!

Any thoughts or comments? Anybody else have this trouble or know the cure?

MZ


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:45:25 -0600
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 2 cents

Good point!

Discussions about hunting, fishing, off-road, and the politics of these
things are something that is unavoidable with trucks in real life. And if
someone wants to discuss something other than trucks then I figure I don't
have to read it. Esp. when the subject line says "Off-Topic" I can ignore
it. But usually I don't, I like to read other peoples opinions and comments,
I have an open mind and I don't fear them enough to use a rule like a sword
to cut off their head to keep them from speaking.

tol·er·ance: noun a : sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices
differing from or conflicting with one's own b : the act of allowing
something. See Endurance, Fortitude, and Stamina.

Scott

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From: Christopher Tirone [SMTP:greenman_11 yahoo.com]


IMHO, the occasional off-subject post is a good thing
for this list. The subject is Ford trucks, but where
else can we gather Ford truck owners together so
easily and share what's on our minds BESIDES our
obsession with our trucks. The fact that you're a Ford
truck owner says something about who you are, so when
an event happens that strikes a nerve and you need to
vent, why not amongst friends? As long as it doesn't
take over, I'm all for it...

Greenman
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:48:00 -0500
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Axle Code

Greg Carter wrote:

>You can find the axle code on the drivers door sticker, and if the
>seller still has the owners manual you can look up the code in there in
the
>towing section, to tell you what gears the truck has. If not post to list
>and someone will decode it for you.

I looked all through the owners manual of my '92 and dads '91 and could
find no reference to ratios. The codes are "L" or "I" (not sure) 9 on my
'92, and H9 on dads '91. A buddy said mine is 3.55, and Dads does about the
same RPMS/MPH as mine so all I figure is MAYBE "H" is posi????

Dave H.
Houston,TX
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:22:50 -0700
From: "Rob Bryan"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Axle Code

I believe that "19" is a Ford 8.8", 3.55 open axle. H9 is a Ford 8.8", 3.55
LS axle.

Rob

> I looked all through the owners manual of my '92 and dads '91 and could
> find no reference to ratios. The codes are "L" or "I" (not sure) 9 on my
> '92, and H9 on dads '91. A buddy said mine is 3.55, and Dads does about the
> same RPMS/MPH as mine so all I figure is MAYBE "H" is posi????
>
> Dave H.
> Houston,TX
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:51:50 -0600
From: Fred Moreno
Subject: FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...

Hey all,
On Tuesday Jerry Hinkle wrote;

Hello list dudes. to the guy who wants to put his entire truck in
the air,
start the engine and engage the tranny (in 4-wheel drive no less) I
might
suggest that this IS REAL DANGEROUS!

No caca? Yeah I agree with you, it IS very dangerous. I have lifted the
truck completly off the ground before in order to rotate the tires but never
started the engine. I only turned the tires over by hand.

You must have real confidence in your jackstands etc. sounds kind
of scary to me. At least make sure the truck is not pointed toward your
house!

Nope, my driveway points into a pecan orchard - watchout for that tree! I
have 4 really stout jackstands and a great floor jack, the last I remember
when I had the truck completely off the ground, it felt pretty solid when
checked.
I have confidence in my tools and my work (at least most of my work) and I
believe I know the limitations of each. I always try to double check my work
from a different pespective especially when a mistake would be real costly.
I will however program 911 in the phone before starting anything. I wonder
if my insurance would cover "wild hair up the colon" situations? Probably
not, huh?
Anyways if I do get to rotate the tires and I do try to satisfy the wild
hair syndrome, I will only start the engine and idle it in gear long enough
to answer my questions, and that should take all of 30 seconds with someone
on the ground observing which tires spin. Then on to rotate the tires. So
none of you guys ever tried to do this or were even curious? I may be dumb
but I am not stupid.

FWIW, over this past week-end, I was doing this and that to the engine, and
I pull the cover off the EGR solenoid (black thingy over next to the coil)
and cleaned out the little foam filter. Man you would not believe the cloud
of dust that came out of this tiny little filter. It was nasty. Anyways,
truck seem to have less hesitation (not that it had much anyways) off the
line but that could of been due to the new plugs, air filter, clean oil &
filter, who knows.

Phred Moreno
1995 F-150 4X4, 5.0L, 5 forward and 1 reverse.
If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid.

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:01:14 -0700
From: Mark Ponsford
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Axle Code

Here's the chart for '92 (I think its pretty much standard for 80 through 96)

Rear Axle Codes
Code Manufacturer Capacity(lb/kg) Ratio
F-150, F-250, F-350, & F-Super Duty with Conventional
12 Ford 3800/1723 2.73
18 Ford 3800/1723 3.08
19 Ford 3800/1723 3.55
25 Ford 5300/2403 4.10
29 Ford 5300/2403 3.55
35 Ford 6250/2834 4.10
39 Ford 6250/2834 3.55
45 Ford 7400/3356 4.10
49 Ford 7400/3356 3.55
65 Ford 8250/3741 4.10
69 Ford 8250/3741 3.55
72 Dana 11000/4989 4.63
73 Dana 11000/4989 5.13
F-150, F-250, & F-350 with Limited Slip
H5 Ford 3800/1723 4.10
H9 Ford 3800/1723 3.55
H8 Ford 3800/1723 3.08
B5 Ford 5300/2403 4.10
B9 Ford 5300/2403 3.55
C5 Ford 6250/2834 4.10
D5 Ford 7400/3356 4.10
F5 Ford 8250/3741 4.10


>Greg Carter wrote:
>
>>You can find the axle code on the drivers door sticker, and if the
>>seller still has the owners manual you can look up the code in there in
>the
>>towing section, to tell you what gears the truck has. If not post to list
>>and someone will decode it for you.
>
>I looked all through the owners manual of my '92 and dads '91 and could
>find no reference to ratios. The codes are "L" or "I" (not sure) 9 on my
>'92, and H9 on dads '91. A buddy said mine is 3.55, and Dads does about the
>same RPMS/MPH as mine so all I figure is MAYBE "H" is posi????
>
>Dave H.
>Houston,TX


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:48:02 -0600
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...

Why do you have to raise the whole truck to rotate the tires? Just raise one
side at a time. The only proper way to rotate any radial tire is
back-to-front, and front-to-back, leaving the wheels on the same side of the
truck. Swapping wheels from one side to another causes the direction the
tire normally rotates to reverse, and I have heard that this can
dramatically reduce the life of the tire.

Where do you position the jack stands? On the axle or the frame? (Just
curious)

I know what you mean. Jack stands are the kind of equipment a guy should
spend a lot of money on as well as a good hydraulic jack (or two). This is
not something I would risk my life or my truck on. K-Mart specials will kill
you.

My dad let me have two of his HUGE hydraulic floor jacks, the kind they use
in body shops, they alone are enough to hold up a truck safely. But with
four solid jack stands, with a wide foot print, and a level concrete floor,
I have complete confidence in starting the truck, putting it in gear and
crawling under it. The jack stands I use have solid ½" pins in them with
retainers on chains so you don't lose them. The fit in the tube should be
tight to prevent rocking and the base should be as wide as possible to
provide stability. Back in my fathers day they didn't sell these in the
stores so they had to make their own by welding square tubing together.

Scott

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From: Fred Moreno [SMTP:fmoreno dualcurve.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:52 PM
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...

Hey all,
On Tuesday Jerry Hinkle wrote;

Hello list dudes. to the guy who wants to put his entire truck in
the air, start the engine and engage the tranny (in 4-wheel drive no
less) I
might suggest that this IS REAL DANGEROUS!

No caca? Yeah I agree with you, it IS very dangerous. I have lifted the
truck completly off the ground before in order to rotate the tires but never
started the engine. I only turned the tires over by hand.

You must have real confidence in your jackstands etc. sounds kind
of scary to me. At least make sure the truck is not pointed toward your
house!

Nope, my driveway points into a pecan orchard - watchout for that tree! I
have 4 really stout jackstands and a great floor jack, the last I remember
when I had the truck completely off the ground, it felt pretty solid when
checked.
I have confidence in my tools and my work (at least most of my work) and I
believe I know the limitations of each. I always try to double check my work
from a different pespective especially when a mistake would be real costly.
I will however program 911 in the phone before starting anything. I wonder
if my insurance would cover "wild hair up the colon" situations? Probably
not, huh?
Anyways if I do get to rotate the tires and I do try to satisfy the wild
hair syndrome, I will only start the engine and idle it in gear long enough
to answer my questions, and that should take all of 30 seconds with someone
on the ground observing which tires spin. Then on to rotate the tires. So
none of you guys ever tried to do this or were even curious? I may be dumb
but I am not stupid.
~snip~

Phred Moreno

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:50:18 -0400
From: "J. Cherry"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milege

What are some of the ways to increase my gas milage on my 86' 4.9 six?
It has a granny gear.

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:57:01 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...

Scott,

I don't think he was talking about moving the rubber around, rather =
checking
to see how his limited slip differentials were working.

Todd.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Giddens, Scott [mailto:sgiddens ball.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:48 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...


Why do you have to raise the whole truck to rotate the tires? Just =
raise one
side at a time. The only proper way to rotate any radial tire is
back-to-front, and front-to-back, leaving the wheels on the same side =
of the
truck. Swapping wheels from one side to another causes the direction =
the
tire normally rotates to reverse, and I have heard that this can
dramatically reduce the life of the tire.

Where do you position the jack stands? On the axle or the frame? (Just
curious)=20

I know what you mean. Jack stands are the kind of equipment a guy =
should
spend a lot of money on as well as a good hydraulic jack (or two). This =
is
not something I would risk my life or my truck on. K-Mart specials will =
kill
you.

My dad let me have two of his HUGE hydraulic floor jacks, the kind they =
use
in body shops, they alone are enough to hold up a truck safely. But =
with
four solid jack stands, with a wide foot print, and a level concrete =
floor,
I have complete confidence in starting the truck, putting it in gear =
and
crawling under it. The jack stands I use have solid =BD" pins in them =
with
retainers on chains so you don't lose them. The fit in the tube should =
be
tight to prevent rocking and the base should be as wide as possible to
provide stability. Back in my fathers day they didn't sell these in the
stores so they had to make their own by welding square tubing together.

Scott

- -----Original Message-----
From: Fred Moreno [SMTP:fmoreno dualcurve.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:52 PM
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...

Hey all,
On Tuesday Jerry Hinkle wrote;

Hello list dudes. to the guy who wants to put his entire truck in
the air, start the engine and engage the tranny (in 4-wheel drive no
less) I
might suggest that this IS REAL DANGEROUS!=20
=20
No caca? Yeah I agree with you, it IS very dangerous. I have lifted =
the
truck completly off the ground before in order to rotate the tires but =
never
started the engine. I only turned the tires over by hand.=20

You must have real confidence in your jackstands etc. sounds kind
of scary to me. At least make sure the truck is not pointed toward =
your
house!=20

Nope, my driveway points into a pecan orchard - watchout for that =
tree! I
have 4 really stout jackstands and a great floor jack, the last I =
remember
when I had the truck completely off the ground, it felt pretty solid =
when
checked.
I have confidence in my tools and my work (at least most of my work) =
and I
believe I know the limitations of each. I always try to double check my =
work
from a different pespective especially when a mistake would be real =
costly.
I will however program 911 in the phone before starting anything. I =
wonder
if my insurance would cover "wild hair up the colon" situations? =
Probably
not, huh?
Anyways if I do get to rotate the tires and I do try to satisfy the =
wild
hair syndrome, I will only start the engine and idle it in gear long =
enough
to answer my questions, and that should take all of 30 seconds with =
someone
on the ground observing which tires spin. Then on to rotate the tires. =
So
none of you guys ever tried to do this or were even curious? I may be =
dumb
but I am not stupid.=20
~snip~

Phred Moreno

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:55:34 -0400
From: "J. Cherry"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milage on my 87

How can I get more fuel mileage on my 4.9 six with a ginny gear? I have
taken off the air pump belt. It was backfireing on me.
E-mail kcherry alltel.net

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:15:12 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milege

In response to your question about different ways to increase your gas
mileage:

1. Only drive down-hill.
2. Keep the wind at your back.
3. Attach a tow rope to the vehicle in front of you.
4. Convert your ignition system to a pulsed microwave system, making use of
wave guides, to achieve instantanious and complete combustion.
5. Sell your truck and buy a big-rig tractor trailer, and haul gasoline (or
diesel) for a living. You can then re-fill anytime you want for free.

Ok, ok... enough fun...

It really depends on how much money you are willing to spend, and what kind
of return you expect on your investments. Just about any of the following
modifications will help to a point, but is it worth it to spend say $500
just for the sake of saving a bit of gas... how many years do you have to
drive before you get your investment paid off?

Very popular modifications include (but are not limited to) the following:

K&N Air Filter
High performance electronic ignition system
Exhaust Headers
Cat-Back Exhaust System
High Performance "chip" replacement for the vehicle's computer

Each has their benifits, each has a drawback or two (usually PRICE).

Good Luck...!

Todd


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From: J. Cherry [mailto:kcherry alltel.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:50 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milege


What are some of the ways to increase my gas milage on my 86' 4.9 six?
It has a granny gear.

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:58:17 -0700
From: Mark Ponsford
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milage on my 87

>How can I get more fuel mileage on my 4.9 six with a ginny gear? I have
>taken off the air pump belt. It was backfireing on me.
>E-mail kcherry alltel.net

Put in 3.08 rear gears and run taller tires. Also, make sure your brakes
aren't dragging.





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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:50:38 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milege

>In response to your question about different ways to increase your gas
>mileage:
>
>1. Only drive down-hill.
>2. Keep the wind at your back.
>3. Attach a tow rope to the vehicle in front of you.
>4. Convert your ignition system to a pulsed microwave system, making use of
>wave guides, to achieve instantanious and complete combustion.
>5. Sell your truck and buy a big-rig tractor trailer, and haul gasoline (or
>diesel) for a living. You can then re-fill anytime you want for free.
>

I would suggest mounting large magnet in front of truck. Then you can drive
real close to a big rig with a steel trailer.

Actually gasoline is the same price now as it was when I was in college in
1980. Trucks are at least 3 times more than then. So I complain more about
the price of trucks than the price of gas.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:54:23 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...

>Why do you have to raise the whole truck to rotate the tires? Just raise one
>side at a time. The only proper way to rotate any radial tire is
>back-to-front, and front-to-back, leaving the wheels on the same side of the
>truck. Swapping wheels from one side to another causes the direction the
>tire normally rotates to reverse, and I have heard that this can
>dramatically reduce the life of the tire.

I have been told this is an outdated theory. I think now they bring the
rears straight forward and move the fronts to the opposite rears. Can't do
this if you have directional tires.

Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:56:44 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - In my own defense...

>I know what you mean. Jack stands are the kind of equipment a guy should
>spend a lot of money on as well as a good hydraulic jack (or two). This is
>not something I would risk my life or my truck on. K-Mart specials will kill
>you.
>

I wish I knew where to get good American-made jack stands. I just bought a
couple of 6-ton chinese ones from Autozone. They are not cheap, but I could
not even find American ones. I try to never buy anything made by Chinese
kids, but it was all I could find.

Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:21:06 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milage on my 87

>>How can I get more fuel mileage on my 4.9 six with a ginny gear? I have
>>taken off the air pump belt. It was backfireing on me.
>>E-mail kcherry alltel.net
>
>Put in 3.08 rear gears and run taller tires. Also, make sure your brakes
>aren't dragging.
>

It all depends at what RPM your engine runs most efficiently.

Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:36:10 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - well guys its been fun..

Well guys the new 1999 Ranger is in and my 1989 F 250 has gone to the dealer
in trade. I wanna thank each of you who has helped me with your responses
over the last year or so, and to those of you have sold me items. I really
appreciate this forum and although im not gonna be on this list im gonna go
on the small list cauase this list thing has proved more valuable than any
book on Fords ive ever read.
LOL and go easy on the guys who make off topic statements.. its usually good
topics to kick around despite its lack of Ford content!
Take care all
Bob
99 Ranger 2WD
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:50:21 -0500
From: "Mike Persell"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milege

Replace the differential oil with it equivalent synthetic. Choose a name
brand at the parts store for the gear oil. 75w-90 is usually a synthetic.
This will do as much for overall mileage as using synthetic motor oils
but without all the caviats of synthetic engine oils.

Mike
86 F150 2WD Stepside

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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 5:50 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milege


What are some of the ways to increase my gas milage on my 86' 4.9 six?
It has a granny gear.

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:35:06 EDT
From: Spruce1495 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Submit your technical articles!

This may not be a tech article, but it is a mystery.
I have a 1993 F150 5.0,EFI that has a problem. Cruising on interstates with
rolling hills or slight grade sets the engine into a frenzy. The least little
bit of hill or grade or demand for more throttle (as in cruise control) and
it starts "pinging" a little at first, then progresses to a loss of power and
violent shaking, "ping" will subside somewhat as follows: The only way to
stop the actions mentioned is to release cruise and take control of throttle
action manually, and apply just enough pressure to accelerator to maintain
speed and the symptoms do subside to a lesser degree. They will not stop
completely 'til no grade or hill. I've had it on Fords shop diagnostic
testers, paid a lot of money, only to be told "We can't see anything
abnormal". It was bad coming back from New York state over this past
weekend, but we did make it. I am leaning towards a new coil, all other
ignition components have been replaced, or it may be a lack of fuel, altho
the fuel delivery system checked OK on diagnostics. Fuel filter was replaced
at that time. I have the Haynes manual, and have read everything I can in
regards to this problem. HELP!!!!!
Bill B.
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:14:13 -0500
From: "Justen R. Noakes"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 2WD Ground Clearance/Capability

Fellow Ford Listers:

I own a '95 F150 with the 4.9L, 5spd Mazda, (will check rearend with e-mail
from Mark). I would like to
increase my ground clearance and increase my "off road" capability a little.
I like to camp and go hunting so a little more would come in handy. I
currently have BFG 31X10.5 ATs which have helped quit a bit. I do not need
much, I understand the trucks limitations and with the South Texas terrain I
normally
am ok.
I am thinking a 1" -2" suspension lift and changing the rear axle from open
to limited slip. Has anybody done either of these on a similar truck? How
were the results? Any other suggestions welcomed.

I know some of you are saying, "just go get/or should have got a 4wd".
However, I have had almost zero problems with my truck (knocking on wood), I
like my truck and it only has 6 more payments.

Thanks for you comments in advance,

Justen Noakes
jrnoakes texas.net
'95 F150, 4.9L, 5spd
31X10.5 BFG ATs
K&N
RK Truck Box and Bed Caps
Kenwood Audio

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:41:05 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 2 cents

Scott-
I agree with you, to a point. I enjoy a little thought-provoking article or
story as much as a Ford-related one. But sometimes they go on and on and on
for too long. People don't know when to let it drop and move on to another
subject. Someone needs to step in at that time and "OK guys, that's enough.
Let's talk truck again."

At 14:45 24/08/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Good point!
>
>Discussions about hunting, fishing, off-road, and the politics of these
>things are something that is unavoidable with trucks in real life. And if
>someone wants to discuss something other than trucks then I figure I don't
>have to read it. Esp. when the subject line says "Off-Topic" I can ignore
>it. But usually I don't, I like to read other peoples opinions and=
comments,
>I have an open mind and I don't fear them enough to use a rule like a sword
>to cut off their head to keep them from speaking.
>
>tol=B7er=B7ance: noun a : sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices
>differing from or conflicting with one's own b : the act of allowing
>something. See Endurance, Fortitude, and Stamina.
>
>Scott
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Tirone [SMTP:greenman_11 yahoo.com]
>=20
>=20
>IMHO, the occasional off-subject post is a good thing
>for this list. The subject is Ford trucks, but where
>else can we gather Ford truck owners together so
>easily and share what's on our minds BESIDES our
>obsession with our trucks. The fact that you're a Ford
>truck owner says something about who you are, so when
>an event happens that strikes a nerve and you need to
>vent, why not amongst friends? As long as it doesn't
>take over, I'm all for it...
>
>Greenman
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Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:43:42 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Hyperactive Speedometer...

Take it to a speedo shop. Sounds like internal malfunction.

At 21:23 22/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hey,
> I am having a problem with the speedometer in my 1985 F150. For the
>record, the truck has a 302, carb, 3 sp auto. I recently bought the truck
>restored with only 23k miles. Anyway, my problem: Speedometer started
acting up
>and is getting worse.
> Speedometer does OK until around 55mph...then all of a sudden it jumps
>up about 12-15mph. (i.e.--when your doing 60 it reads about 72mph). It
stays at
>this new reading and changes porportionaly(65mph--reads 77 etc.) When you
slow
>down to about 30 or so the gauge sometimes jumps back to where it is supposed
>to be or it just declines until you are stopped. It then is stuck reading
12mph
>or so. Then if you bang on the dash it drops to zero.
> The truck did sit for a while(2-3yrs)...I guess the next thing I need
>to do is to take out the dash and spray some WD-40 in the speedometer
cable.(I
>am assuming it is a mechanical speedo). Any other things that could go
wrong? I
>think it is kinda weird for something to wear out that quickly(20k miles),
even
>if it did sit. If the lube doesn't work, where should I begin? Suggestions?
> Help anyone?
>
>Nate
>
>
>
>--
>C/Lt Col Nathan Edward Green--(Now a happy AS700)
>negreen eos.ncsu.edu
>(919) 833-9658
>
>*************************************************************************
>"I've got a B.S. in BS"
> -Myself, in MEA444 Class
>
>"I'm a scientist Mr. Roark, Certainty is a very big word for me."
> -Dr. Amy Barnes:"Volcano"
>
>"Well, If you want something badly enough, dreams have a way of coming true."
> -EADA Ben Stone, "Law & Order"
>
>*********************************************************************
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'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:36:00 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 2WD Ground Clearance/Capability

There's a lot to be said for "only 6 more payments".

At 22:14 24/08/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Fellow Ford Listers:
>
>I own a '95 F150 with the 4.9L, 5spd Mazda, (will check rearend with e-mail
>from Mark). I would like to
>increase my ground clearance and increase my "off road" capability a little.
>I like to camp and go hunting so a little more would come in handy. I
>currently have BFG 31X10.5 ATs which have helped quit a bit. I do not need
>much, I understand the trucks limitations and with the South Texas terrain I
>normally
>am ok.
>I am thinking a 1" -2" suspension lift and changing the rear axle from open
>to limited slip. Has anybody done either of these on a similar truck? How
>were the results? Any other suggestions welcomed.
>
>I know some of you are saying, "just go get/or should have got a 4wd".
>However, I have had almost zero problems with my truck (knocking on wood), I
>like my truck and it only has 6 more payments.
>
>Thanks for you comments in advance,
>
>Justen Noakes
>jrnoakes texas.net
>'95 F150, 4.9L, 5spd
>31X10.5 BFG ATs
>K&N
>RK Truck Box and Bed Caps
>Kenwood Audio
>
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Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:58:50 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milage on my 87

Your post is very interesting. You received a lot of standard replies on
how to improve mileage (which were very good, so I will not add to them).

More importantly, you FIRST need to get the truck running right before you
can ever hope to improve mileage. In fact, if you do a good job at THAT,
you may be happy with the mileage and stop there.

When you say that it was backfiring, I think "a lot of unburned fuel going
out the tail pipe". That will give you really bad MPG, I don't care what
other mods you make. You need to push less fuel into the engine or get what
you put in there to burn completely. THAT will improve gas mailage!



That air pump can not cause backfiring, really, because it is not putting
the excess unburnt fuel in the exhaust system. It is only putting the
oxygen in there to cause it to explode (backfire). Stop the source of the
raw gas in the exhaust and then hook the pump back up to keep your cat from
clogging up with carbon (and help keep the air a little bit cleaner).

I don't know if you have carb or EFI on this year, but something is not
right. Start there and get the basic mileage up to about 16 MPG, THEN LET'S
TALK ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE IT.



At 18:55 24/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>How can I get more fuel mileage on my 4.9 six with a ginny gear? I have
>taken off the air pump belt. It was backfireing on me.
>E-mail kcherry alltel.net


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:48:42 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Turn signal problem solved

Your fix sounds reasonable. I'm kind of surprised no one suggested that the
switch might be bad. Pretty obvious.

To get ignition switch out, you need to pull steering wheel off and then
release the key cylinder from inside there while turning key backward.
Procedure is in shop manual. Easy job.

The clockspring wire you heard about is for the trucks that have a lot of
stuff on the sterring wheel, like cruise control. They use a wire wrapped
in a big spiral several turns around so that there is enough slack to turn
the wheel "stop to stop". If you do not have cruise then you have
conventional horn button wiring. You will see it (or the clock spring wire)
if you pull the steering wheel.

At 05:36 24/08/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Wish to express my thanks to all who contributed ideas on
>how to resolve my turn signal problem. All of them helped me
>eliminate potential problems, but none of them really solved
>it. It turned out to be the switch mechanism on the steering
>column. It looked like the previous owner had tampered with
>it and the emergency flasher appeared to be held in an off
>position with a screw screwed into the plastic housing.
>There was also something like oil or melted grease all
>around the edge of the switch. I started checking each wire
>in the wiring harness and discovered that there was current
>to the switch and was also able to make the blinkers blink.
>After pulling the switch I opened it up (hey, what did I
>have to loose?) and found someone had tried lubricating the
>mechanism with oil or possibly WD40. Also, one of the
>components was not sitting in there correctly. Put it back
>together and the blinkers started working but the emergency
>flasher button was shot. $75.00 poorer, I now have a new
>unit that is fully functional. Thanks again for your help.
>
>Two new questions resulted from this process:
>
>1) How do you get the ignition switch off so that you can
>completely remove the plastic cover?
>2) The horn doesn't work. In a previous post, I thought
>someone mentioned something about a spring that passes
>current from the steering wheel to the steering column. Is
>this the way it's done on a 94 truck, and if so, where is it
>located? I can't seem to find it, but then, I can't get the
>cover off either!
>
>Ken Brayton
>Albany, Oregon
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.triax.com/~brayton
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:38:40 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Submit your technical articles!

Did they check the function of the EGR valve? A malfunctioning one can make
it knock. Does the engine have a knock sensor? How many miles on the
engine? Did it start after someone worked on the engine? Have you separated
the ignition wires from each other to prevent cross-fire? Are they good
quality ignition wires, fairly new?

At 22:35 24/08/99 EDT, you wrote:
>This may not be a tech article, but it is a mystery.
>I have a 1993 F150 5.0,EFI that has a problem. Cruising on interstates with
>rolling hills or slight grade sets the engine into a frenzy. The least
little
>bit of hill or grade or demand for more throttle (as in cruise control) and
>it starts "pinging" a little at first, then progresses to a loss of power
and
>violent shaking, "ping" will subside somewhat as follows: The only way to
>stop the actions mentioned is to release cruise and take control of throttle
>action manually, and apply just enough pressure to accelerator to maintain
>speed and the symptoms do subside to a lesser degree. They will not stop
>completely 'til no grade or hill. I've had it on Fords shop diagnostic
>testers, paid a lot of money, only to be told "We can't see anything
>abnormal". It was bad coming back from New York state over this past
>weekend, but we did make it. I am leaning towards a new coil, all other
>ignition components have been replaced, or it may be a lack of fuel, altho
>the fuel delivery system checked OK on diagnostics. Fuel filter was replaced
>at that time. I have the Haynes manual, and have read everything I can in
>regards to this problem. HELP!!!!!
>Bill B.
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'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:06:52 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: FTE 80-96 - SOS - Any easy way to diagnose bad rear main bearing?

Guys-
I've got a buddy with a small V8 and manual transmission that has developed
a loud noise while the engine runs. I'm thinking it might be the rear main.
Any easy way to tell? The oil pressure seems to be ok. The noise is
definitely coming from the rear of the engine. Noise does not change of you
step on clutch or not. (I thought at first it was the throw-out bearing,
becasue I knew it was going bad, but it is not.) I have had engines with
rod knock before; that is not what this is. I've been lucky enough never to
have a main bearing go out. I'm trying to help him get it sorted out so
that he knows where to start: engine, transmission or clutch. What about
the pilot bearing? Do they fail very often? What do they sound like when
they go? That's a long way to dig to be wrong! (Of course, so is replacing
the mains!)

Any ideas? tricks? Thanks.


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:31:51 -0500
From: "Harris, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Milage on my 87

Removing the belt cured the symptom...the problem still remains.....

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 5:56 PM
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