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80-96-list-digest Monday, August 23 1999 Volume 03 : Number 236



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Can They Tow?
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Leaking Power Steering
Re: FTE 80-96 - Can They Tow?
FTE 80-96 - 460 Transplant
Re: FTE 80-96 - 460 Transplant
Re: FTE 80-96 - power steering pump
Re: FTE 80-96 - Horn and Cruise
Re: FTE 80-96 - Can They Tow?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Horn and Cruise
FTE 80-96 - Hyperactive Speedometer...
Re: FTE 80-96 - Trailer Lights
Re: FTE 80-96 - advice on 88 F150
FTE 80-96 - V3 #235 was short..here is a good one!

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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:09:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: DBblueboy webtv.net (Jerome Kelly)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Can They Tow?

I have seen a lot of F250 with the six
cylinder engine. They seem to be less
expensive than the larger engines. some
people say they have a lot of torque. Can
they pull a trailer, such as one loaded at
6,500 lbs. If not, what use is this engine
in this series of vehicle. Anyone have
a comment on the subject?




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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:50:04 EDT
From: RiTruckGuy aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Leaking Power Steering

There are rebuild kits available for about $15 at local parts stores....I
recently had a leaky lower seal in my '82 F100.....It took about 30 minutes
to do the whole job and I didn't have to remove the box from the truck.

Bill
'97 F150 4X4 Super Cab 4.6 Off Road
'82 F100 Flareside 4.9
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:19:24 -0400
From: Mike Sloane
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Can They Tow?

I have an F250 (1983) with the straight 300 six, and it can tow a 7,000
load. But don't be in a hurry or have any steep hills to climb. I don't
know anything about the newer V6 engines.

I would be more concerned with braking than with pulling power, but that
is another (long) subject.

Mike

Jerome Kelly wrote:
>
> I have seen a lot of F250 with the six
> cylinder engine. They seem to be less
> expensive than the larger engines. some
> people say they have a lot of torque. Can
> they pull a trailer, such as one loaded at
> 6,500 lbs. If not, what use is this engine
> in this series of vehicle. Anyone have
> a comment on the subject?
>
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:42:00 PDT
From: 2insane excite.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 460 Transplant

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I would most
likely go with a carb. considering the fuelie 460 were a bit doggish (180
hp?).
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i think your mistaken on your numbers. usually (at least what i always
thought) a FI engine has a little more umph in it and 180 hp? are u talking
about your I6? my 5.0 is supposed to make 185 hp and a person i know with a
460 (FI or carb, don't know) can REALLY cruise with it, and he's got about
38 inch super swampers turning on his truck.




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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:59:47 -0700
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 460 Transplant

Per the Ford F-Series Pickup Owners Bible, the EFI 460 produced 245HP
4000RPM and 400ft/lbs Torque 2200 RPM. These are 1994 specs.

Rade
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Date: Sunday, August 22, 1999 7:44 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 460 Transplant


>"""""""""""""
>I would most
>likely go with a carb. considering the fuelie 460 were a bit doggish (180
>hp?).
>"""""""""""""""""""
>
>i think your mistaken on your numbers. usually (at least what i always
>thought) a FI engine has a little more umph in it and 180 hp? are u talking
>about your I6? my 5.0 is supposed to make 185 hp and a person i know with a
>460 (FI or carb, don't know) can REALLY cruise with it, and he's got about
>38 inch super swampers turning on his truck.
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:38:14 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - power steering pump

Eric-
Can you tell which seal is leaking? There are only two: the input shaft
seal on the top and the output shaft seal behind the pitman arm. Both are
replaceable. I did the input shaft seal on a friend's truck about 6 months
ago. It was a 2 hour job (total). The parts kit was about $12, as I recall.

At 08:47 20/08/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Howdy Group, I was wonnerin' eff'n anyone has an idea on how t'stop a
>small leak in my power steerin' box, other than stop leak, which has not
>worked, at all . two weeks ago ah thought I was smart by replacin' th'
>old fluid in mah pump, well since then it has developed a small leak
>that I cant stop. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>Eric

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:49:19 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Horn and Cruise

At 11:44 21/08/99 -0400, Mark Hahn wrote:
>For some strange reason the horn and the cruise control quit working on my
'94 F-150.
>Also, for the longest time the air bag light has been on. Fixed that one
by covering it over with tape.

There is a clockspring wire connector under there, I am told, that breaks
with age. I do not have one on my year (too old). Sounds like it needs to
be replaced.

>I have been on the digest for a few months now and this is my first post.
>I have learned alot just by listening. There seems to be quite a few
knowledgable folks on this list.

Yes, as Yogi Berra once said, "you can observe a lot by just watching".

>I hope at least one of you can help me out.
>

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:13:07 EDT
From: Hitman6136 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Can They Tow?

i have a 260 with the six never had a problem towing with it engine has a lot
of torque
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:47:35 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Horn and Cruise

Mark,
It the part called a "Clock spring". It is basically the spring in between
the steering wheel and the rest of the steering assembly. I carries an
electrical charge that when it drops too low, it causes the cruise, horn, and
possibly the airbag system not to work. The price of this part is around $125
and you could do it if you a half way decent DIYer.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 F150 Flareside SC
Wayne's Page
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:23:00 -0400
From: "Nathan Edward Green"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Hyperactive Speedometer...

Hey,
I am having a problem with the speedometer in my 1985 F150. For the
record, the truck has a 302, carb, 3 sp auto. I recently bought the truck
restored with only 23k miles. Anyway, my problem: Speedometer started acting up
and is getting worse.
Speedometer does OK until around 55mph...then all of a sudden it jumps
up about 12-15mph. (i.e.--when your doing 60 it reads about 72mph). It stays at
this new reading and changes porportionaly(65mph--reads 77 etc.) When you slow
down to about 30 or so the gauge sometimes jumps back to where it is supposed
to be or it just declines until you are stopped. It then is stuck reading 12mph
or so. Then if you bang on the dash it drops to zero.
The truck did sit for a while(2-3yrs)...I guess the next thing I need
to do is to take out the dash and spray some WD-40 in the speedometer cable.(I
am assuming it is a mechanical speedo). Any other things that could go wrong? I
think it is kinda weird for something to wear out that quickly(20k miles), even
if it did sit. If the lube doesn't work, where should I begin? Suggestions?
Help anyone?

Nate



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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:28:43 -0400
From: Cliff McLarty
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Trailer Lights

Go to Wal-Mart. They have a 6 point plug with a small rectagular plug attached.
I use one on my suburban and bass boat. 6 point to the burb, and rect. to the
boat. Your's is the opposit, but will work.

good fishing

MadHavelka cs.com wrote:

> My friend and I are going fishing next weekend. His boat trailer has a
> large, six point lighting plug. I don't have any trailer lights setup on my
> truck, but I am familiar with the rectangular light plugs and can find a
> splicing kit. Are there "pigtail" connectors available for the six point
> setup, or will I have to make my own? If so, how should I go about it? Would
> appreciate some advice.
>
> Mark Havelka
> Austin, TX
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:21:01 -0700
From: "Rob Bryan"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - advice on 88 F150

Actually, a '88 _should_ have a real oil pressure gauge. According to my
wiring diagrams, '89 is the first year where the variable-resistor sender
was replaced with a switch and a 20 ohm resistor soldered to the back of the
gauge so that the needle reads in the upper-middle of the "NORMAL" range
when there is some oil pressure.

FWIW, if you replace the sender with the older style one and remove that
resistor, the gauge should work as intended again.

RB

> The oil pressure gauge is not an actual guage. At least that is what I've
> been able to determine from monitoring this list. It's actually an idiot
> light. When pressure is above 4.5psi, it registers half scale. When the
> pressure drops below this threshold, it registers low. Nice trick, eh?

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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:59:42 -0500
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - V3 #235 was short..here is a good one!

I helped (mostly did the work) a buddy change the thermostat in his '92 5.0
Mustang. Quite a little task for hands that wear XXL gloves! And I dodged a
bullet with the '90 Toy Corolla that my sister owns. The thing overheated
(Egad with an aluminum block!) but it was okay (whew) on the other side of
town. The radiator sprung a leak at the top tank seam. I elected to drive
it until it got warm, put water in, and so on 'til I got it to tools.
Apparently, the gage stopped reading true, and it got WAY hot. Trying not
to shock it, I put water all over the external surfaces (which shorted a
plug wire) and I KNEW I'd killed it. Towed it home from there, and looked....


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