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80-96-list-digest Thursday, August 19 1999 Volume 03 : Number 232



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980-1996 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - 460 Transplant
FTE 80-96 - 82 F100 Shake
FTE 80-96 - RE: Turn signal not working
FTE 80-96 - Re: 1992 EXPLORER RIGHT TURN LOSS OF POWER
Re: [FTE 80-96 - Re: 1992 EXPLORER RIGHT TURN LOSS OF POWER]
FTE 80-96 - RE: Turn signal not working - how to trouble-shoot this problem
Re: [FTE 80-96 - 82 F100 Shake]
FTE 80-96 - Turn that old rust bucket into a HUMMER look-alike!
FTE 80-96 - RE: oil thru PCV hoses
FTE 80-96 - RE: Bleeding Breaks
FTE 80-96 - Re: Changing the Oil Pan Gasket
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: oil thru PCV hoses
FTE 80-96 - Correct Gear Lube for Manual Transmissions
FTE 80-96 - My 2 cents worth
FTE 80-96 - Kennedy
Re: FTE 80-96 - Correct Gear Lube for Manual Transmissions
Re: FTE 80-96 - Kennedy
Re: FTE 80-96 - My 2 cents worth

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:45:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Speed Racer
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 460 Transplant

I have a 93 F-150 with a gutless I-6 in it. The engine is a great engine,
and tows well for a six, besides being damn near bullit proof. I have com
across a lonely boat anchor (460) with zero hours on it. I would most
likely go with a carb. considering the fuelie 460 were a bit doggish (180
hp?). I also need to come up with a Trans, perferably with overdrive. Is
there a C-6 with OD, or is there another trans, auto or manual, that has
OD that would work? If anyone has experience with a similar transplant,
or has any opinions/advice, please let me know.

Trenton Munsell
Brakes are a sign of weakness.....
..... When in doubt-- GAS IT!!!!!

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:14:11 EDT
From: BanksRVA aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 82 F100 Shake

Having a problem with my truck. It is an 82 F100 with a 300 in it and it
starts to shake at low RPM. It mainly happens when I shift from 3rd to 4th
(4sp with granny). When I reach about 45 mph, it smooths out. Other than
that the truck runs fine. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Joe 82 stepside
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:55:16 -0700
From: "Ken Brayton"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Turn signal not working

Thanks for the responses. Found the recessed nuts and got
the battery side trim off. Which genius designed this
system???

>Jiggle the hazard flashers switch and see if the blinkers
start to >work again.

Didn't start working, but it looks like someone has had the
cover off the steering column and didn't get in back on
correctly.

>Check you stop lights; do they work? Check you stop light
switch.

Stop lights and tail lights work, as do parking lights and
headlights.

>Check a couple of the bulbs at random to see if they are
blown.

Checked all bulbs accept left front. Don't have the heart to
pull off the trim! No blown bulbs found. In my experience
with other rigs, a blown bulb usually cause erratic flashing
or the turn signal light would just come on and not flash.
True for Ford systems?

Couple more questions: If the hazard flasher switch is bad,
will that prevent the lights from coming on (which they
don't) or would they come on and not flash? Same question
for the turn signal flasher thingy down on the fuse box?

Again, if you could please send a copy of your responses to
kwbrayton triax.com I'd really appreciate it.

Ken Brayton
Albany, Oregon
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:24:35 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1992 EXPLORER RIGHT TURN LOSS OF POWER

It could still be an electrical problem...

Examine the wires going to and from your coil and/or your electronic
ignition. It's possible that a wire is shorting out to ground when you are
in your turn. Examine all connections, and be sure they are all solid and
tight. Examine the insulation around each wire to be sure that it is
undamaged, especially in areas where wires are touching metal, or passing
through holes drilled into metal, or crossing other wires. Be sure that
none of the insulation has become melted.

If this fails to expose a problem, try jiggling the wires (etc.) while the
engine is idleing, to see if there is an intermittant connection somewhere.
Sometimes wires can be broken inside the insulation with no apparant damage
from the exterior(this is usually due to a manufacturing defect). It's also
possible to have a solder-joint fail inside your electronic ignition due to
vehicle vibration, resulting in an intermittant contact.

Have you examined your fuel lines? Perhaps there's a kink in a hose
somewhere, or the hose is getting pinched when you're turning?

Sound's like this could be a tough one....!

Good luck...! Be sure to let us know what you find...!

Todd
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Date: 18 Aug 99 10:06:47 PDT
From: William Berninghausen
Subject: Re: [FTE 80-96 - Re: 1992 EXPLORER RIGHT TURN LOSS OF POWER]

"Shawn & Jennifer Clark" wrote:
> =

> RIBAINC aol.com asked:
> >>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1992 EXPLORER RIGHT TURN LOSS OF POWER
> =

> Anyone else had this problem: when I turn right and accellerate at the =
same
> =

> time the engine dies for about half a second then picks up again. It
> appears =

> to be gas related as the electrics all seem to be unaffected. It will e=
ven
> do =

> it when I change lanes on the parkway just turning the steering wheel a=
=

> fraction. It only happens turning right, left is not a problem. Any ide=
as =

> anyone??
> =

> Ok, this is a long shot...is there any chance it is related to the fuel=

> pickup in the tank? Does it only happen when the fuel level is low? I=
'm
> not familiar with how the Explorers are set up, but I had a Chrysler th=
at
> lost power in turns when the tank was at about 1/8th--after I had the f=
uel
> pump replaced. I lost about 1-1/2 gallons of working tank volume as a
> result. I don't know how the pump suction was oriented before, but it =
was
> far different when the dealership was done with it. =

> =

> Shawn Clark
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My two cents:

Had a similar problem with a 61 falcon van--turned out to be a misaligned=

float jamming the needle valve closed. But EFI doesn't have a bowl and
float....

How about a wire bundle with a broken wire near some moving part of the
steering assembly? Check for mechanical interference between moving part=
s and
wire bundles.

Bill in Portland
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:18:51 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Turn signal not working - how to trouble-shoot this problem

In order to "trouble-shoot" a problem of this type, you must first remove
the blinker or flasher unit, and then run a wire from the output pin for the
left turn-signal lights in the flasher socket (be sure to check the
color-code of the wire coming out of the socket first!), and run this wire
to the positive terminal of the battery... BUT BE CAREFUL...! The last
thing you want to do is short something out...! BE SURE TO MAKE THE FINAL
CONNECTON ON THE BATTERY SIDE, and not at the flasher socket. If there IS a
short, the resulting spark could damage the socket, while a similar spark
would cause little or no damage if occuring at the battery.

If done correctly, the left turn signal bulbs should light up. If they do,
then you know that your bulbs, sockets, and wires from that point (the
socket) on towards the bulbs are good.

Now do the same for the Right turn-signal bulbs.

If either side fails this test, then you know where to start looking. If
both are working, then you know that the problem is somewhere between the
flasher unit and socket, the turn-signal-switch, and the fuse-box. Check
all the wires first. Especially where they pass through holes drilled in
metal... vehicle vibrations can cause an unprotected wire to become cut
through its insulation, and short out to the vehicle body (etc). Be sure
that the flasher unit is the correct one, and not just one with similar
contacts.

Some other things to consider:

Keep in mind that any one of the sockets could be defective, and ground out
the circuit, causing all bulbs not to light up. The test noted above will
help determine this.

The test noted above is also the easiest way to check that front left bulb
of yours...

You say the someone had the cover off the steering column... so be sure to
check all of your electrical connections in that area, you never know what
you might find.

Don't forget that Murphy's Law is especially forceful when dealing with
vehicle problems.


Good Luck...!

Todd
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- -----Original Message-----
From: Ken Brayton [mailto:kwbrayton triax.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 8:55 AM
To: Ford 80-96-List-Digest
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Turn signal not working


Thanks for the responses. Found the recessed nuts and got
the battery side trim off. Which genius designed this
system???

>Jiggle the hazard flashers switch and see if the blinkers
start to >work again.

Didn't start working, but it looks like someone has had the
cover off the steering column and didn't get in back on
correctly.

>Check you stop lights; do they work? Check you stop light
switch.

Stop lights and tail lights work, as do parking lights and
headlights.

>Check a couple of the bulbs at random to see if they are
blown.

Checked all bulbs accept left front. Don't have the heart to
pull off the trim! No blown bulbs found. In my experience
with other rigs, a blown bulb usually cause erratic flashing
or the turn signal light would just come on and not flash.
True for Ford systems?

Couple more questions: If the hazard flasher switch is bad,
will that prevent the lights from coming on (which they
don't) or would they come on and not flash? Same question
for the turn signal flasher thingy down on the fuse box?

Again, if you could please send a copy of your responses to
kwbrayton triax.com I'd really appreciate it.

Ken Brayton
Albany, Oregon
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Date: 18 Aug 99 10:54:34 PDT
From: William Berninghausen
Subject: Re: [FTE 80-96 - 82 F100 Shake]

BanksRVA aol.com wrote:
> Having a problem with my truck. It is an 82 F100 with a 300 in it and i=
t =

> starts to shake at low RPM. It mainly happens when I shift from 3rd to=
4th

> (4sp with granny). When I reach about 45 mph, it smooths out. Other th=
an =

> that the truck runs fine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. =
=

=

> Joe 82 stepside
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I know the owner's manual says you can shift from 3 to 4 at 25mph, but do=
n't
believe it, especially if you have a load. My 82F100 has the 3spd, and t=
he
same shift (2 to 3 for me) needs to wait until 30-35 mph unless the truck=
is
empty, low on gas, and I haven't eaten.

My advice is to buy a tach that measures 0-4000rpm. I have found that 10=
00rpm
is the bottom of a gear and 2000rpm makes a pretty good shift point. Bel=
ow
1000rpm my truck shakes--it's called lugging--and it shakes worse with a =
load
or uphill.

Keep your revs up!

Bill in Portland
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:44:25 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Turn that old rust bucket into a HUMMER look-alike!

Want to turn that old rust bucket into a HUMMER look-alike?

Got an old rusty truck that needs a face lift?

I just found this in the back of an issue of Popular Mechanics...

It's a BODY replacement kit for just about any make of full sized truck.
(I think I might have just found my next project vehicle...)
You supply the chassis and drive train from a "donor" vehicle
(your old rust-bucket), remove the body, clean it up, and put their body
on...
Instant HUMMER!

Check out these links:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.classicroadsters.com/RAT/RATpage.html

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.classicroadsters.com/ Go to the bottom of this page and get the
video...

There is a brochure available as a PDF file as well:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.classicroadsters.com/acrobat/ratbro.pdf

;-)

Todd

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:26:01 -0700
From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: oil thru PCV hoses

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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:16:34 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - oil thru PCV hoses

The problem is the 5W30 oil!
[snip]

Just a piece of data : Take it for what it's worth. I ran 5W30 Mobil1 in my
85 F-150 4x4 351W since year one, all year long, even in 100 degree traffic
with the AC on and have had non of the problems Peter is talking about. In
fact no oil related problems whatsoever. The 5W30 dino oil may not be
helping his situation but is not what is causing the problem. IMHO. Walt

P.S. At temperature xW30 oils have a viscosity similar(not exact but
similar) to 30 wt. oils, regardless of whether they start out as 5, 10, 15
or 20 wts. multi visc.
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:05:10 -0700
From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Bleeding Breaks

It's been a very long time so I'm trying to remember the correct
sequence.....when bleeding brakes after replacing the master cylinder.
Always start at the wheel closest to the master cylinder and then move
progressively further away. For example : in order[as viewed from sitting
behind the wheel]....LF, RF, LR, RR. Is this correct? Thanks Walt
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:41:54 -0400
From: Daniel Maxwell
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Changing the Oil Pan Gasket

Changed the gasket on my 91 Bronco with a 302. The FelPro came with a set
of plastic studs that made it relitively easy. Drained and dropped the pan
down as far as it goes, scrapped out the old gasket. My wife reached in and
wiped out the pan, wove through the new gasket, pushed it over the pins,
pushed the pan over the pins, bolted on the pan, filled, hasnt leaked in a
couple months. Took about 2 hours

>Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:06:11 -0700
>From: "GARY CALLAHAN"
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Changing the Oil Pan Gasket
>
> I have an '81 F-150 4x4 with the 300cid I-6 engine. Has anyone had
>experience changing the oil pan gasket without lifting the engine? I'm
>afraid it's a bigger job then I want to attack when you take into
>consideration the transfer case and all.
>
>Gary Callahan
>GCallahan prodigy.net
>
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:54:49 -0500
From: Mike Persell
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: oil thru PCV hoses

"Posluszny, Walt (POSL)" wrote:
> Just a piece of data : Take it for what it's worth. I ran 5W30 Mobil1 in my
> 85 F-150 4x4 351W since year one, all year long, even in 100 degree traffic
> with the AC on and have had non of the problems Peter is talking about. In
> fact no oil related problems whatsoever. The 5W30 dino oil may not be
> helping his situation but is not what is causing the problem. IMHO. Walt

There is a huge difference between synthetic and conventional oils of
the
same viscosity.

>
> P.S. At temperature xW30 oils have a viscosity similar(not exact but
> similar) to 30 wt. oils, regardless of whether they start out as 5, 10, 15
> or 20 wts. multi visc.
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5w-30 = A 5w oil with viscosity index improvers that make the 5w act
like
a 30 wt oil at 200 degrees F. Great for Minnesota and points north. If
I
were in Dallas or temperatures greater I would run 30wt period. Someone
posted
an answer to use 30wt earlier or a 15w-40. If you can do it, always use
a single viscosity oil. It's gonna be stronger and a lot more lubrous.

The numbers on the can like 5w-30 mean that at 0 degrees F it acts like
the
lower number and at 200 degrees F it acts like the higher number.

Mike Persell
86 F150 Stepside 302
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:55:39 EDT
From: RiTruckGuy aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Correct Gear Lube for Manual Transmissions

Hi,

I've got a 4 Speed Single Rail Overdrive tranny in my '82 F100 2wd. I'm
guessing that it uses 80W90 gear lube, but I can't find that documented
anywhere. Anybody out there know the correct viscosity to use?

Thanks,
Bill
'97 F150 4x4 Off Road Super Cab 4.6L
'82 F100 Flareside 4.9L
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:10:28 -0500
From: "bridgtap"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - My 2 cents worth

My comments to Ed Saunders

As a viet nam vet and the new Father-in-law to a Desert storm vet,and fort
worth Police officer I say A-men to your comments.Just to let you know other
people care about the real people. Now back to Ford Trucks

bridgtap swbell.net

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:18:36 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Kennedy

Did I miss something?Was John-John flying a Ford Tri-Motror?A f-150 with
wings?A Bronco-Helicopter combo?A rocket powered f-350?
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:45:36 -0500
From: Mike Persell
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Correct Gear Lube for Manual Transmissions

RiTruckGuy aol.com wrote:
>
> I've got a 4 Speed Single Rail Overdrive tranny in my '82 F100 2wd. I'm
> guessing that it uses 80W90 gear lube, but I can't find that documented
> anywhere. Anybody out there know the correct viscosity to use?

Some of the better equiped parts stores will have a small book called
the
Gousha Chek Chart. The chart will show which oil types and what
viscosities
for what temp for your area.

Mike
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:01:09 PDT
From: aebu excite.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Kennedy

On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:18:36 -0700, J.S.H. wrote:

> Did I miss something?Was John-John flying a Ford Tri-Motror?A f-150 with
> wings?A Bronco-Helicopter combo?A rocket powered f-350?
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I am sure that it had to be a rocket powered F350! I mean what else could
it have been. Oh BTW this is "OFF SUBJECT"




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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:03:12 PDT
From: aebu excite.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - My 2 cents worth

On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:10:28 -0500, bridgtap wrote:

> My comments to Ed Saunders
>
> As a viet nam vet and the new Father-in-law to a Desert storm vet,and
fort
> worth Police officer I say A-men to your comments.Just to let you know
other
> people care about the real people. Now back to Ford Trucks....


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