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80-96-list-digest Wednesday, August 18 1999 Volume 03 : Number 231



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Turn signal not working
FTE 80-96 - 94 Headlights
FTE 80-96 - post
FTE 80-96 - RE: FTE offroad - F-350 REVERSE SHACKLE KIT from offroad unlimite d
FTE 80-96 - Seeking advice on drive train lubrication.....
FTE 80-96 - Sorry, but I couldn't resist... (good joke)
Re: FTE 80-96 - oil thru PCV hoses
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Submit your technical articles!
Re: FTE 80-96 - post
RE: FTE 80-96 - fuel tank
Re: FTE 80-96 - Turn signal not working
FTE 80-96 - Rear Abs light won't go off
Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Submit your technical articles!
Re: FTE 80-96 - oil thru PCV hoses
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-"Friends Pics Page"
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-"Friends Pics Page"
FTE 80-96 - Re: 1992 EXPLORER RIGHT TURN LOSS OF POWER

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:56:43 -0700
From: "Ken Brayton"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Turn signal not working

New owner of a 94 Ford F150. Haven't purchased the tech
manuals yet and it didn't come with an owner's manual. The
turn signals and emergency flasher are not working. They
don't come on at all. Was able to open up the tail lights
and check those bulbs but cannot for the life of me figure
out how to get the trim and lenses off the front to get in
there and check the front bulbs! I've popped the hood and
pulled the two screws that are visible on top, but cannot
figure the rest of it out. Would someone please send me the
magic formula? I pulled the flasher from the fuse box and
tested it in my other truck and it seems to work. Tried the
other way around too, but didn't get the problem solved. I
also checked the fuses and they are okay. Is there something
else I should check?

I'm on the digest version of this list and would appreciate
a copy of your message to my personal email address:
kwbrayton triax.com. Thanks in advance.

Ken Brayton
Albany, Oregon
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:04:11 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 94 Headlights

Ken,
There are (2) 7/16" or maybe it was a 10 mm, nuts that hold those assemblies
on. To get to the ones on the passenger side, you'll have to pull the
battery. On the drivers side, you may be able to get to them without pulling
the washer/radiator reservoir. They are recessed into the metal so you'll
have to feel around for them. You'll also need a deep style socket and a
short extension.
Hope I have helped,
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
Wayne's Page
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:02:04 -0400
From: LilyBLOOMS 1-800-921-0005
Subject: FTE 80-96 - post

My '88 F2500, 351, tran K, no overdrive, makes a rather loud winding
noise when I accelerate getting on the highway. The noise gets louder
the harder/faster I go until I reach cruising speed then it sort of
fades out. I have noticed it pulling out of a parking lot when I have
to 'step on it' to get out into busy traffic. Any suggetions on what
might be causing the noise?


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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:06:44 -0400
From: Greg Carter
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: FTE offroad - F-350 REVERSE SHACKLE KIT from offroad unlimite d

Hey I just finished putting the F-350 axle in my F-250, I rebuilt it at the
same time, 4.56 gears and a Detroit locker. small world. If you run into
any problems let me know. It's basically a straight bolt in. There were
few minor things that the grinder took care of, the center bolts for the
springs were too long (stock front springs) and needed about 1/4" ground off
so the springs would sit on the spring pads without the bolt hitting the
axle tube. One of the old cross member brackets for the IFS looked like it
would hit the axle. The bracket was bolted and riveted on (which is why I
didn't take it off right away), it is the one on the drivers side which also
goes up to the motor mount. I chose to grind off the lower part than to
remove it altogether, since it looked like it was needed for support of the
motor/motor mount. The pictures are being developed as I type, I should
have an article for it up by the end of the week.

Also I had to have my drive shaft shorten one inch since the yoke on the
Dana 60 sits about 1" farther back than the Dana 50.
Have fun.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Corboy [mailto:corboy flash.net]
Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 6:35 PM
To: offroad-list ford-trucks.com
Cc: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: Re: FTE offroad - F-350 REVERSE SHACKLE KIT from offroad
unlimited


The conversion is advancing as I type. (sort of)
Well had to take a break for work any how.
A buddy of mine is doing the work now.
F-250 4wd diesel
Removing the front limp noodle axle and installing an F350 front
axle.
Adding the shackle reversal also.
Also adding "National Spring Company" lift springs.
Talk about a work of art.

Greg Carter wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Anyone tried this out?
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.offroadunlimited.com/rshacklekit.htm
>
> You can read an article about it here:
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.offroadunlimited.com/pdf/ford_rev_shackle_kit.pdf
>
> How did it work?
> Worth money?
>
> Thanks.
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:32:36 EDT
From: WVAIL3 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Seeking advice on drive train lubrication.....

Vehicle: 1988 Full size Bronco with automatic transmission with overdive..
.....looking for advice on drive train maintenance......I do the typical
engine oil changes and greasing of steering fittings......is there any
special procedures or fittings/tools to lubricating the drive
train?.....where if any are they located ?.....recently had differential oil
replaced.......and drive train lubed it seemed tighter initially
.....wondering what I could do to keep this drive train well greased and
seemingly tighter.....??....Thanks......Bud from CT
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:57:13 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Sorry, but I couldn't resist... (good joke)

Hi Guys,

I had to share this one with you...
The man in question was obviously a member of this list!

Todd

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ISLAND PARADISE

An ambitious young man finally decided to take a vacation. He booked himself
on a Caribbean cruise and proceeded to have the time of his life. Until
the boat sank.

The man found himself swept up on the shore of an island with no other
people, no supplies...Nothing. Only bananas and coconuts.

After about four months, he is lying on the beach one day when the most
gorgeous woman he has ever seen rows up to him. In disbelief, he asks her,
"Where did you come from? How did you get here?"

"I rowed from the other side of the island," she says. "I landed here when
my cruise ship sank."

"Amazing," he says. "You were really lucky to have a rowboat wash up with
you."

"Oh, this?" replies the woman. "I made the rowboat out of raw material I
found on the island; the oars were whittled from gum tree branches; I wove
the bottom from palm branches; and the sides and stern came from a
Eucalyptus tree."

"But-- but, that's impossible," stutters the man. "You had no tools or
hardware. How did you manage?"

"Oh, that was no problem," replies the woman. "On the south side of the
island, there is a very unusual strata of alluvial rock exposed. I found
if I fired it to a certain temperature in my kiln, it melted into
forgeable ductile iron. I used that for tools and used the tools to make
the hardware."

The guy is stunned.

"Let's row over to my place, " she says.

After a few minutes of rowing, she docks the boat at a small wharf.

As the man looks onto shore, he nearly falls out of the boat. Before him
is a stone walk leading to an exquisite bungalow painted in blue and
white. While the woman ties up the rowboat with an expertly woven hemp
rope, the man can only stare ahead, dumbstruck.

As they walk into the house, she says casually, "It's not much, but I call
it home. Sit down please; would you like to have a drink?"

"No, no thank you," he says, still dazed. "Can't take any more coconut
juice."

"It's not coconut juice," the woman replies. "I have a still. How about a
Pina Colada?"

Trying to hide his continued amazement, the man accepts, and they sit down
on her couch to talk. After they have exchanged their stories, the woman
announces, "I'm going to slip into something more
comfortable. Would you like to take a shower and shave? There is a razor
upstairs in the cabinet in the bathroom."

No longer questioning anything, the man goes into the bathroom. There, in
the cabinet, is a razor made from a bone handle. Two shells honed to a
hollow ground edge are fastened on to its end inside of a
swivel mechanism.

"This woman is amazing," he muses. "What next?"

When he returns, she greets him wearing nothing but vines--strategically
positioned -- and smelling faintly of gardenias.

She beckons for him to sit down next to her. "Tell me," she begins,
suggestively, slithering closer to him, "we've been out here for a really
long time You've been lonely. There's something I'm sure you really feel
like doing right now, something you've been longing for all
these months? You know... "

She stares into his eyes.

He can't believe what he's hearing: "You mean...?", he swallows excitedly,
"...I can check my e-mail from here...?"
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:16:34 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - oil thru PCV hoses

The problem is the 5W30 oil! Get that out of there and choose something
better suited to your summer climate, like straight 30W or 10W30 (or 10W40
if lots of miles). Use the really light oil only in dead of winter. Next
summer in the 100 degree weather I plan to use 20W50 in my truck. It will
have 75 k miles on it by then. 10W40 is in it year-round right now (but oil
pressure is just a bit too low to suit me in this heat with the A/C on).

At 11:10 16/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>
> Since my '87 F150 I6 Lariat was "tuned up" last June I have had nothing
>but problems. My latest woe is from oil loss. Not burning, but blowing out
>the PCV hoses. I had to take the truck on a drive down the highway, and over
>the round-trip (600 miles) I had to add about 4 quarts of oil. When I stopped
>at a highway service center to check things, oil was just running down the
>wheel well by the air filter. I also checked the hose to the intake manifold
>and the nozel was filled with oil as well; but I don't notice from the
exhaust
>any oil being burned. The PCV valve rattles when shaken (not stirred :) so I
>assume its not plugged. The oil pressure gauge reading varies from less than
>N to MA, depending upon its mood I guess ???
>
> Any ideas ???
>
> PETER
>
>Oh ya, the place that did the tune-up put in 5w30. My manual says not to
>use 5w30 unless the temperature is below zero degrees F. Could this have
>caused problems? Of course, right after this the temperature never dropped
>below 95 for weeks :(
>

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:19:03 -0400
From: kpayne ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Submit your technical articles!

Hi gang,

This is the web site admin for Ford Truck Enthusiasts. As many of
you know, we have a technical article section on the web site. Its
been a while since an article has been submitted and that section of
the site is a little stale. We like to have a lot of fun stuff for
our visitors. If you'd like to submit an article which describes a
project you've undertake, even a simple project such as installing a
K&N kit, please feel free to submit it to kpayne ford-trucks.com.
We'll publish it on the web site, along with full credit to you and
you retain the copyright.

Later,
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:51:29 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - post

At 11:02 17/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>My '88 F2500, 351, tran K, no overdrive, makes a rather loud winding
>noise when I accelerate getting on the highway. The noise gets louder
>the harder/faster I go until I reach cruising speed then it sort of
>fades out. I have noticed it pulling out of a parking lot when I have
>to 'step on it' to get out into busy traffic. Any suggetions on what
>might be causing the noise?

Sounds like U-joints, differential, or transmission (in that order of
likelihood). {I never claimed to know how to spell.} 8-)


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:47:39 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - fuel tank

At 15:31 14/08/99 -0500, you wrote:
>At 09:01 PM 8/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>What you describe is the guage design in GM vehicles. In our trucks they
>>are thermal. (At least from early 70's to early 90's. I can't afford
>>anything newer.) The shop manual is very clear on this. I have also had
>>them apart. You can tell because magnetic ones "jump" up to their reading,
>>but thermal ones take a few seconds to warm up and move to their reading
>>position.
>
>I never would have thought of that. I would think that outside temp has a
>great effect on these though. Although temperature is always related to
>resistance, so it would effect the sending unit too. I guess they must be
>accuate enough though.

The way the bimettalic strip is in there, it is a U shape. On the
Instrument Voltage Regulator (IVR) the top of one leg of the U is riveted
down to the base, the top of the other leg of the U has the contact points
on it that open/close to regulate the voltage out. The output voltage is
used to heat one leg of the U; when it gets warm the strip bends and the
contacts open. This limits voltage out to an average of about 5 volts. When
the leg cools, the contacts close and heating resumes. This is the way it
regulates voltage out. (Sort of; that's why these guages are known to
wander around.) The U shape gives it automatic ambient temperature correction.

On the senders, you have only variable resistance, no bimettalic strip, no
heating.

On the guages, you again have the U shape bimettalic strip for automatic
ambient temperature correction. Again one leg of the the U is wrapped with
some heating wire and the more current that goes through it, the warmer it
gets and the more needle deflection you get. Low resistance at the sender
puts a lot of current through the guage heater and the needle bends way the
heck over. This could be Full tank of fuel, High oil pressure, or Hot
engine. The guage units are identical; only the faceplates are different.

One advantage of this design over GM's magnetic guages is that there is a
fair amount of thermal dampening in there and the guages do not swing
around very quickly. On my GM vehicle I can see the gas sloshing around in
the tank when I rock the car because the sender/guage is so responsive. The
Ford design dampens that all out. If they would have just put a better IVR
in there, we would not have had all the problems we see with the wandering
needles. We would still have $400 gas tank senders fail, though, and
selector valves malfunction (transferring one tank's contents to the other,
etc., you know the drill).

Whew! Longer than I intended!

Later!

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:49:35 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Turn signal not working

At 05:56 17/08/99 -0700, you wrote:
>New owner of a 94 Ford F150. Haven't purchased the tech
>manuals yet and it didn't come with an owner's manual. The
>turn signals and emergency flasher are not working. They
>don't come on at all. Was able to open up the tail lights
>and check those bulbs but cannot for the life of me figure
>out how to get the trim and lenses off the front to get in
>there and check the front bulbs! I've popped the hood and
>pulled the two screws that are visible on top, but cannot
>figure the rest of it out. Would someone please send me the
>magic formula? I pulled the flasher from the fuse box and
>tested it in my other truck and it seems to work. Tried the
>other way around too, but didn't get the problem solved. I
>also checked the fuses and they are okay. Is there something
>else I should check?

Jiggle the hazard flashers switch and see if the blinkers start to work again.

Check you stop lights; do they work? Check you stop light switch.

Check a couple of the bulbs at random to see if they are blown.

Good luck.


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:06:42 EDT
From: RONEAKER aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Rear Abs light won't go off

Is there a way to tell or troubleshoot the rear abs? When I crank the truck
the light comes on then goes off for about a minute then comes back on and
stays on. The fluid is full and I'll take to a garage if I need to, but I'm
wondering with the way it goes off then back on if there's a way to tell if
its the sensor or the module. I thought maybe if its the module it would come
on and stay on?
92 ford f-150 4x4 351
Any enlightment on the way the light works would be appreciated.
Thanks
Ron Eaker
Rome, GA
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:27:25 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Submit your technical articles!

Do you want pictures, too? I finished the 6" lift on my '86 Bronco last
month...

Bob


kpayne ford-trucks.com wrote:

> Hi gang,
>
> This is the web site admin for Ford Truck Enthusiasts. As many of
> you know, we have a technical article section on the web site. Its
> been a while since an article has been submitted and that section of
> the site is a little stale. We like to have a lot of fun stuff for
> our visitors. If you'd like to submit an article which describes a
> project you've undertake, even a simple project such as installing a
> K&N kit, please feel free to submit it to kpayne ford-trucks.com.
> We'll publish it on the web site, along with full credit to you and
> you retain the copyright.
>
> Later,
> Ken Payne
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:35:58 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - oil thru PCV hoses

> Since my '87 F150 I6 Lariat was "tuned up" last June I have had nothing
>but problems. My latest woe is from oil loss. Not burning, but blowing out
>the PCV hoses. I had to take the truck on a drive down the highway, and over
>the round-trip (600 miles) I had to add about 4 quarts of oil. When I stopped
>at a highway service center to check things, oil was just running down the
>wheel well by the air filter. I also checked the hose to the intake manifold
>and the nozel was filled with oil as well; but I don't notice from the exhaust
>any oil being burned. The PCV valve rattles when shaken (not stirred :) so I
>assume its not plugged. The oil pressure gauge reading varies from less than
>N to MA, depending upon its mood I guess ???
>
> Any ideas ???
>

Sounds like you are getting lots of pressure built up in your crankcase.
Pull the PCV valve out while the engine is idling. If lots of vapor pours
out you know you have lots of blow-by. Could be worn out rings from lots of
miles or overheating (even once), or a hole in a piston.

5W-30 oil will increase oil consumption, but I doubt as bad as you have.
That is not designed for our kind of engines but for little jap rice
rockets. Since you are using oil like that right now, I would suggest using
straight SAE 40 in the summer and 15W-40 in the winter. The 15W-40 is good
for all year too.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
Early Oil Well Historian
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:52:20 -0400
From: "Doug"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-"Friends Pics Page"

hey Wayne -- i need your e-mail addy to send the pic of the f-350 guy
Firefitr cxp.com

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:16:32 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-"Friends Pics Page"

Doug,
You can send them to either AOL Address,
or the FTE Address. I can get
them from either place.
Later
Wayne
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:19:14 -0500
From: "Shawn & Jennifer Clark"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1992 EXPLORER RIGHT TURN LOSS OF POWER

RIBAINC aol.com asked:
>>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1992 EXPLORER RIGHT TURN LOSS OF POWER

Anyone else had this problem: when I turn right and accellerate at the same

time the engine dies for about half a second then picks up again. It
appears
to be gas related as the electrics all seem to be unaffected. It will even
do
it when I change lanes on the parkway just turning the steering wheel a....


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