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80-96-list-digest Monday, August 16 1999 Volume 03 : Number 229



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - 80-96-list (What Went Wrong)
FTE 80-96 - Radio - Location of Power Amp
FTE 80-96 - Off Subject
Re: FTE 80-96 - 80-96-list (What Went Wrong)
Re: FTE 80-96 - Tie Rod End
Re: FTE 80-96 - Off Subject
Re: FTE 80-96 - Mass Air Conversion
Re: FTE 80-96 - Mass Air Conversion
Re: FTE 80-96 - Mass Air Conversion
FTE 80-96 - '86 8.8" Axle Source
Re: FTE 80-96 - '86 8.8" Axle Source

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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:19:29 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 80-96-list (What Went Wrong)

I have a friend of minewho has an Astro Van ( yes a Chevy) and the two
pinion gears broke up and when the axel was moved they would lock up the
rear. Now once he went backwards he would gt a few more feet, but they
shattered after a couple of tries doing that and then the axel locked up
totally. In the Astro vans though there was some kind of defect in the
casting of those gears and rear end failures were quite common.. His is an 86
and hes ben through three rear ends.
Hope that Chevy story helps ya
Bob
ROlson1039 aol.com
89 F250 2WD
99 Ranger 2WD
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:44:08 -0400
From: "Paul Siebert"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Radio - Location of Power Amp

I need some help finding the location of the Power Amp for my 1994 Ford
Explorer XLT with the premium radio option. I have just received a gift of
a new Alpine AM/FM/CD unit that does not require an external power amp. I
need to by-pass the amp and would like to be able to wire the speakers from
the output side instead of re-wiring each speaker individually. Can anyone
give me any suggestions?

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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:58:58 -0500
From: Edward Saunders
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Off Subject

I know this is off subject but from what I've seen there are quite a few
American Patriots on this string. Being a soldier myself this appalls
me when i think about it.


The U.S. Navy dumps John F. Kennedy Jr.'s ashes into the sea today (ok
not today, its a few days old, JPS), ending (we hope) the shameless
media glut over the private plane crash that killed him, his wife and
his sister-in-law.

Maybe now we can get back to some real news.

Two US soldiers died in Kosovo last Sunday. You may have missed that
because Tom and Dan and Peter and God-knows-who-else were too busy
gushing over the Kennedys.

The soldiers died when their armored personnel carrier overturned.
They weren't celebrities at the wheel of a their own airplane, heading
for a weekend jaunt and a family wedding. They were just two ordinary
grunts, serving their country. Dan Rather didn't hop the next plane to
Kosovo to talk about how their families felt about losing loved ones. He
was too busy talking about John-John.

Tom Brokaw didn't call their deaths "an American tragedy." Nah. A
dilettante dies and it's a tragedy. Two soldiers die and it's back page
news.

Katie Couric didn't put on her best phony look of concern and devote her
time on the Today Show to talk about two American patriots who died
while working a thankless job in a foreign land. She couldn't stop
interviewing an endless collections of has-beens whose only claim to
fame was that they went to school with, worked with or once said hello
to John Kennedy, Jr.

The media didn't just lose perspective this past week. They slaughtered
it. Many compare the media overkill on JFK Jr. to the orgy of coverage
devoted to Princess Diana's death. The Kennedy overkill was worse.

A Nexis search on the first six days of Diana's death shows 17,913
stories worldwide. The first six days of JFK Jr.'s death generated
18,227 stories. At least the Kennedys didn't ask Elton John to join them
on the Navy ship today and sing Candle in the Wind.

The Washington Post devoted more than 2,000 column inches of coverage to
JFK Jr.'s death since last Saturday. They used one wire story about the
soldiers' death in Kosovo.

Other newspapers ran countless stories about both the Kennedy and
Bessette families. Those same papers didn't even run the names of the
two soldiers in Kosovo, much less tell us anything about their families.

For the record, the soldiers who died while serving their country are
Spec. Sherwood B. Brim, 30, of Dallas, and Sgt. William W. Wright, 27,
of Clear Lake, Calif.

Their bodies were flown home earlier this week to be buried with full
military honors.

They were the fourth and fifth American casualties of 'war' in Kosovo.

Now back to Fords!!!

Ed Saunders
86 F-150 4X4 302

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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:15:54 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 80-96-list (What Went Wrong)

Bob mentioned the spider gears in the rear end, I've seen brake hold downs come
apart and do this. Either way, it's time to get the rear end up on some jack
stands and do some checking. Either problem will exhibit noise, either at the
pumpkin or at the wheel.

The other Bob


WD40DNT aol.com wrote:

> As I was driving my 1984 F-350 Crew Cab single rear wheel truck across a rail
> road track at about 15 mph. The rear wheels locked up and sled to a stop just
> like it had been pushed into park. It would not move forward but would back
> up. I started forward again and after about 5 feet it locked again. I backed
> up one more time and started forward and nothing has happen. It's done great
> after that one time. I have put over 200 miles on it, and ever thing seams to
> be great.
> What could it have been? Would like to hear what you have to say or has this
> happen to any one else
> Doug
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:24:46 PDT
From: aebu excite.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tie Rod End

On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:54:47 EDT, BRIGANDBAR aol.com wrote:

What signature pop are you referring to? I have a F350 95 with 460 5 speed.
Does this pop sound like metal or what? It happened when I pulled in my
driveway. Steep hill coming up and ugly hump to get over into driveway.
Basically have to swing in other lane to get in. Would it happen then. I
am in second gear at the time. Thanks.
Deb

> Gerry:
>
> I would simply explain to him, and his boss, that the truck would be in
the
> custody of the local Ford dealer whom they would be paying for the
> replacement of all necessary parts, and ask him where he would prefer to
rent
> my loaner car for the time that it took to get it done.
>
> Steve
>
>
took
> it upon himself to examine my Tie Rod Ends for excess wear after hearing
> the signature pop in the front end when moving my truck. As many of us
> already know this pop is nothing to be concerned about for trucks of my
> type. Anyway, the boob ruined the tie rod end rubber boot when removing
> the tie rod for inspection>>
>
> [PS: I've got the same type of truck. Is yours a Powertroke Diesel?
SS]
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 19:19:07 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Off Subject

ED
I happen to agree with you about this Kennedy thing.. I think it was highly
overplayed to put it nicely.
Thank you for giving us the story of these two American Heroes, and the
tragedy that befell them.
I would continue along this tack but then we would need a politics list to
accompany this FOrd list, cause im sure that most of us on this list have
very different political opinions.
and finally , yes, lets get back to Fords!!
Bob
ROlson1039 aol.com
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 19:25:40 EDT
From: LGRanch aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Mass Air Conversion

I have a question?
What do you hope to get out of the conversion to the mass-air system. With
the speed-density system that the trucks were made with will support a mild
cam, headers, exhaust improvements. As a matter of fact the speed density
will work better than the mass-air system for these minor changes. The system
will lean out the rich settings that Ford has programed into the speed
- -density computer and gain horsepower and fuel economy.

If you are really going to build torque then a less expensive method is to
swap in a 351W. Well maybe not less expensive but against the $650+ for teh
mass density then add the cams and heads, etc it should not cost any more.

If you are going for a high rpm screamer then why not swap out to a Mustang
5.0 HO mass-air motor. This has got to be a better all around choice, right??

The truck 5.0 will accept the mid 80's T-bird roller cam without changing the
speed-density computer.

I am working on getting better torque and HP from my 1990 5.0. I am very
interested in what you are shooting for with your truck.
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 19:54:23 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Mass Air Conversion

>I have a question?
>What do you hope to get out of the conversion to the mass-air system. With
>the speed-density system that the trucks were made with will support a mild
>cam, headers, exhaust improvements. As a matter of fact the speed density
>will work better than the mass-air system for these minor changes. The system
>will lean out the rich settings that Ford has programed into the speed
>-density computer and gain horsepower and fuel economy.
>
>If you are really going to build torque then a less expensive method is to
>swap in a 351W. Well maybe not less expensive but against the $650+ for teh
>mass density then add the cams and heads, etc it should not cost any more.
>
>If you are going for a high rpm screamer then why not swap out to a Mustang
>5.0 HO mass-air motor. This has got to be a better all around choice, right??
>
>The truck 5.0 will accept the mid 80's T-bird roller cam without changing the
>speed-density computer.

Well a 460 will fit in just fine too. I am sure it will beat the Mustang
5.0 for truck performance use anyway.

Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 17:24:15 -0700
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Mass Air Conversion

Well actually I do plan on dropping in a 351W and the 302 mass-air will
support a 351W just fine, where asa 302 speed density computer will not
control a 351W. When I do add the 351, I plan on doing some major
modifications to it (Edelbrock intake, GT-40 heads, etc.) and the mass-air
system will accept these changes better than the speed density system will.
A speed density system can be made to work with just about any engine mod,
but it requires a custom PROM chip and alot of dyno time. So in the end it
is going to be cheaper for me to spend money on the mass-air system and be
done with it (until I go with a bigger MAF, or higher flowing injectors...).

Rade
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From: LGRanch aol.com
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, August 15, 1999 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Mass Air Conversion


>I have a question?
>What do you hope to get out of the conversion to the mass-air system. With
>the speed-density system that the trucks were made with will support a mild
>cam, headers, exhaust improvements. As a matter of fact the speed density
>will work better than the mass-air system for these minor changes. The
system
>will lean out the rich settings that Ford has programed into the speed
>-density computer and gain horsepower and fuel economy.
>
>If you are really going to build torque then a less expensive method is to
>swap in a 351W. Well maybe not less expensive but against the $650+ for teh
>mass density then add the cams and heads, etc it should not cost any more.
>
>If you are going for a high rpm screamer then why not swap out to a Mustang
>5.0 HO mass-air motor. This has got to be a better all around choice,
right??
>
>The truck 5.0 will accept the mid 80's T-bird roller cam without changing
the
>speed-density computer.
>
>I am working on getting better torque and HP from my 1990 5.0. I am very
>interested in what you are shooting for with your truck.
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 22:03:20 -0500
From: "Brent McNabb"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '86 8.8" Axle Source

I am trying to locate a source for '86 8.8" 31 spline axles. I have a bent
passenger side axle. Tried all the local junk yards, and I can't find a
good one. Did find one '88, but it seems that the axles were changed
inbetween '86 and '88. Does anybody know of a good source of new or used
axles?
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 22:57:19 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '86 8.8" Axle Source

Try http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.drivetrain.com

Bob

Brent McNabb wrote:

> I am trying to locate a source for '86 8.8" 31 spline axles. I have a bent
> passenger side axle. Tried all the local junk yards, and I can't find a
> good one. Did find one '88, but it seems that the axles were changed....


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