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80-96-list-digest Thursday, August 12 1999 Volume 03 : Number 225



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Tie Rod End
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: axle code
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cat Back 351
FTE 80-96 - RE: O2 Sensor
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Selling F-250 for Ranger
Re: FTE 80-96 - Overheating or false reading UPDATE
Re: FTE 80-96 - Tie Rod End
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cat Back 351
FTE 80-96 - Car show this weekend New Hope PA
FTE 80-96 - Getting in over my head
Re: FTE 80-96 - Getting in over my head
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cat Back 351

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:30:40 -0700
From: "Gerald L. Hinkle Jr. CPA"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tie Rod End

Hey list dudes,

When having an alignment performed at a local tire shop the mechanic took
it upon himself to examine my Tie Rod Ends for excess wear after hearing
the signature pop in the front end when moving my truck. As many of us
already know this pop is nothing to be concerned about for trucks of my
type. Anyway, the boob ruined the tie rod end rubber boot when removing
the tie rod for inspection. This, as you know, is a common problem when
removing tie rod ends. My question is this, the rod end in question is the
passenger side which is NOT removable from the tie rod. the rubber boot,
initially only damaged has now removed itself completely. I cannot find a
replacement boot, they are commonly affixed to the rod end when new. What
should I do? The rod end is fine but completely exposed to the elements.
I tried cutting a boot off of a similiar rod end that WAS new and sliding
it on the rod end but this only lasted a few weeks before it too came up
missing. I would keep replacing the boot but I cannot locate these boots
without buying rod ends and cutting them off. Any ideas?

Jerry Hinkle Jr. CPA
"RULEMAKER" 94 F-350 Crew Cab 4x4
"LTS-ROK" 80 JEEP CJ-5
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:41:57 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: axle code

>Well, its geared higher than I thought. I still want to replace my T-18 with
>a 5 speed.
>Thanks for the reply.
>

Don't get the Mazda 5 speed. Geared way too high in 1st! Look for a NV4500.
Advance Adaptors sells them with a kit to go into about anything.


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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:42:51 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cat Back 351

>I just took my first trip in my 92 E-350, with a 351 and 4 spd eod. I
>averaged 13.6 mpg, I was hoping for better.
>
>Does anyone have an idea what a Cat back will add real world in
>driveability and MPG to this setup.
>

If it has 2 cats, just run it with no muffler. They are not noisy at all.


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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:14:08 -0700
From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: O2 Sensor

From: "Beth and Tony Fischer"
Subject: O2 Sensor

Tony, my 85, F150 4x4, 351W, 2v, 4 spd man. od. has one, single wire O2
sensor. If you want I can look at it tonight and tell you exactly where it
is. Truck was built in October of 84. It has the high altitude package on
the engine and a TFI ignition. Walt
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:59:02 -0700
From: Larry
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Selling F-250 for Ranger

Dave Harmier wrote:

> I don't know about new Rangers, but my Dad is FINALLY giving up his '87
> Ranger for a '91 F-150. I feel utterly alien in that Ranger,
> claustrophobic to some degree!
> And our '88 F-150 was a GREAT truck.
>
> Point is it's all in how YOU feel, but you'd NEVER get me to do it!
>

I have to agree with you Dave. I traded a 90 Ranger for a 91 F-150 a little
over a year ago. I just never felt comfortable in the Ranger. Of course, I'm
6'2", and had to sort of fold myself up to get into it. Also, it was never
big enough when I went to the lumber yard. The F-150 just fits me better,
but I do miss the mileage, but the Honda's make up for that. :-)

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-=Larry=-

91 F-150, 351w, XLT Lariat
98 Honda Prelude
99 Honda Civic Si

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:15:45 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Overheating or false reading UPDATE

At 23:33 10/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
> After locating and replacing the temperature sending unit ('89 I6)
>located at the top rear right side of the block just below the head I
>still have a very high temp reading. Using some jumpers I swapped the
>temp and oil sending unit leads, sending them to the oil and temp
>sending units respectively. The oil pressure gauge (now registering
>coolant temp) stayed nice and low for the five minutes I ran it , just
>like the temp gauge used to. The temp gauge (now showing oil pressure)
>immediately pegged itself far right. This leads me to think the gauge
>itself is faulty, assuming the gauges are interchangeable.

These guage units ARE interchangable and you have now CONFIRMED that you do
not have an overheating problem, you have a guage problem. You can get one
at an auto recycling center (junk yard) for a few bucks.

When you have it all apart to replace the bad guage unit, take a
flourescent orange "paint pen" (available at hobby and craft stores) and
carefulle paint all of the needles on all of your guages, including
speedometer. They will then look new, and they will all look the same.




Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:38:31 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tie Rod End

Jerry-

If it were me, I would get the tire shop to buy you a completely new tie
rod, not mess around with the boots, put it on and realign the truck for
you at no cost.

I know that things change on these trucks over the years, but all of the
boots on my 1980 are replaceable. I got 4 new ones at a speed shop (made by
Energy Suspension) to replace the ones on my truck that disintegrated
simply from age. They were hard to find, but the speed shop had them.

Are you sure your tie rod end is "not removable from the tie rod"? I'm not
sure what that means.

Jim Cannon
Houston TX

At 10:30 11/08/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hey list dudes,
>
>When having an alignment performed at a local tire shop the mechanic took
>it upon himself to examine my Tie Rod Ends for excess wear after hearing
>the signature pop in the front end when moving my truck. As many of us
>already know this pop is nothing to be concerned about for trucks of my
>type. Anyway, the boob ruined the tie rod end rubber boot when removing
>the tie rod for inspection. This, as you know, is a common problem when
>removing tie rod ends. My question is this, the rod end in question is the
>passenger side which is NOT removable from the tie rod. the rubber boot,
>initially only damaged has now removed itself completely. I cannot find a
>replacement boot, they are commonly affixed to the rod end when new. What
>should I do? The rod end is fine but completely exposed to the elements.
>I tried cutting a boot off of a similiar rod end that WAS new and sliding
>it on the rod end but this only lasted a few weeks before it too came up
>missing. I would keep replacing the boot but I cannot locate these boots
>without buying rod ends and cutting them off. Any ideas?
>

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:41:34 MDT
From: "DeseretMail"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cat Back 351

It has seperate inputs into one cat, and I hear the cat has a restrictive output (like about 1.5".)

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From: Blake Malkamaki
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:42:51 -0500

>>I just took my first trip in my 92 E-350, with a 351 and 4 spd eod. I
>averaged 13.6 mpg, I was hoping for better.
>
>Does anyone have an idea what a Cat back will add real world in
>driveability and MPG to this setup.
>

If it has 2 cats, just run it with no muffler. They are not noisy at all.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:46:34 -0400
From: "Eric J. McTague"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Car show this weekend New Hope PA

Been some talk on some of the lists about car shows, so .......

For any & all interested, the New Hope Pennsylvania 43'rd annual auto
show is this Saturday & Sunday.

It will be at the New Hope-Solebury High School on RT.202 in Solebury
Pennsylvania.

$5.00 admission.

For more info, directions, etc.(info from the latest copy of Hemmings
Motor News) ........

Roger Conduit
215-862-5665
e-mail newhopeautoshow hotmail.com

I'm going to have to e-mail or call him myself for directions, as I've
never been to this location for the show. It used to *actually* be more
*in* the town of New Hope itself.

I'll probably be going Saturday.

E


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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:06:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: DBblueboy webtv.net (Jerome Kelly)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Getting in over my head

Have a l987F150, low gear, posi traction,with a 302 EFI. Thought
I had the overheating problem conquered.
Draged a horse trailer to a show this weekend. Nothing to heavy for my
setup.
I am running a 160 degree thermostate. Full time cooling fan. Trans.
cooler. Ran
into overheating problems all the way there and back. I lost power on
the way back. Got a bad stumble on exceleration.
Waited until dark to get it home. Maintained it at a steady 45 mph to
keep it cool. It boiled over one time during the trip. I run gages. It
shot up suddenly to around 270 degrees after I shut it down.
I have changed the throttle Position sensor. Cleaned the throttle body.
Pulled the radiator and trans. cooler. I found a trans. line that had a
kink. Was done before I bought the truck. I hope this was the problem.
I changed the plugs. Three of them on the passenger side of the engine
were toasted with the electrobes
missing. Only could see a hole in the plug. These were Precision Guard
plugs.P4RF-42 . Installed at the famous Precision Tune Up. I replaced
them with Autocraft. It helped some but I still have a
rough idle and a little stumble on exceleration. I was wondering if I
should tear into the injectors or put it all back together and have it
put on a computer check. I hope I haven't burnt a valve or piston.
Does anyone have any advise?




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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:39:04 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Getting in over my head

Time to run the codes, maybe the O2 sensor is toast as well.
As a fellow Ford owner, you are never over your head!

Bob


Jerome Kelly wrote:

> Have a l987F150, low gear, posi traction,with a 302 EFI. Thought
> I had the overheating problem conquered.
> Draged a horse trailer to a show this weekend. Nothing to heavy for my
> setup.
> I am running a 160 degree thermostate. Full time cooling fan. Trans.
> cooler. Ran
> into overheating problems all the way there and back. I lost power on
> the way back. Got a bad stumble on exceleration.
> Waited until dark to get it home. Maintained it at a steady 45 mph to
> keep it cool. It boiled over one time during the trip. I run gages. It
> shot up suddenly to around 270 degrees after I shut it down.
> I have changed the throttle Position sensor. Cleaned the throttle body.
> Pulled the radiator and trans. cooler. I found a trans. line that had a
> kink. Was done before I bought the truck. I hope this was the problem.
> I changed the plugs. Three of them on the passenger side of the engine
> were toasted with the electrobes
> missing. Only could see a hole in the plug. These were Precision Guard
> plugs.P4RF-42 . Installed at the famous Precision Tune Up. I replaced
> them with Autocraft. It helped some but I still have a
> rough idle and a little stumble on exceleration. I was wondering if I
> should tear into the injectors or put it all back together and have it
> put on a computer check. I hope I haven't burnt a valve or piston.
> Does anyone have any advise?
>
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:11:34 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cat Back 351

>It has seperate inputs into one cat, and I hear the cat has a restrictive
>output (like about 1.5".)
>

Mine has 2.25". You could go aftermarket and get 3", but unless you are
running 5 or 6 thousand rpm all the time you don't need that much airflow.


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