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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - RE: Alignment concerns and warnings
FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup
AW: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup
RE: AW: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup
RE: FTE 80-96 - alignment concerns and warnings....
FTE 80-96 - Over Heating
Re: [FTE 80-96 - Gas mileage on 302 compared to I-6]
FTE 80-96 - Hot air through vents and speedo cable
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup
Re: FTE 80-96 - Hot air through vents and speedo cable
FTE 80-96 - re: 300 vs. 302 milelage
Re: FTE 80-96 - re: 300 vs. 302 milelage
FTE 80-96 - Shocks
FTE 80-96 - Possible Purchase of '91 F-150...
Re: AW: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup
RE: FTE 80-96 - alignment concerns and warnings....
FTE 80-96 - Oil pressure sender
RE: FTE 80-96 - Hot air through vents and speedo cable
Re: FTE 80-96 - alignment concerns and warnings....
Re: FTE 80-96 - alignment concerns and warnings....
Re: FTE 80-96 - re: 300 vs. 302 milelage
Re: FTE 80-96 - Possible Purchase of '91 F-150...
RE: FTE 80-96 - Hot air through vents and speedo cable
RE: FTE 80-96 - fuel tank
AW: AW: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup

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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:32:38 -0500
From: "Ferino, Chris"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Alignment concerns and warnings

"That's all you had to say - Goodyear.
They and firestone will f**k up your truck faster than a wino sucks a bottle
dry."

Allow me to add my two cents here - I've experienced this as well, at both
chains, but only at corporate-owned stores. I have a Firestone dealer about
a mile from my house that's an independent dealer, and have found him to be
the best place for service bar none in my area. I'd trust all of my
vehicles to him without reservation.

I guess what I'm trying to say here is don't necessarily paint all of 'em
with the same brush, even though most of 'em deserve it. It's always easy
to overlook the real diamond in the sea of cubic zirconias.

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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 06:16:09 -0700
From: "Sam Matthews"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup

>You are going to pull a car on a car trailer with an >Aerostar? I hope it is
>all down hill. You need serious horsepower to pull a >3000 lb car and trailer.

...Uh..I was hoping. It's a 4.0 ltr all wheel drive Areo-pig, and a lightweight single axle trailer and 2000 lbs car. Bad idea?

Thanks,
Sam


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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:28:48 +0200
From: "Ucen, Thomas, PRE"
Subject: AW: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup

I have the 3.0L Aerostar. When I bought it I read it's a great vehicle =
for
hauling and towing (heavy vehicle, rear wheel drive). What's true now??

Tom

- -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Sam Matthews [mailto:smatthews eudoramail.com]
Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 5. August 1999 15:16
An: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Betreff: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup

>You are going to pull a car on a car trailer with an >Aerostar? I hope =
it
is=20
>all down hill. You need serious horsepower to pull a >3000 lb car and
trailer.

...Uh..I was hoping. It's a 4.0 ltr all wheel drive Areo-pig, and a
lightweight single axle trailer and 2000 lbs car. Bad idea? =20

Thanks,
Sam


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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 11:37:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mark F. Burgo ( Mark F. Burgo"
Subject: RE: AW: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup

I hauled a 21' Aerolite TT behind my AeroStar for two years. Never had a bit
of trouble. Loaded the trailer weighed 3500# and the van was rated at 4000#.
I did have to watch my speed because of wind but not a bit of problems from the
van or trailer. A little slow on the hills would go from 55 - 60 to about 45
on a 6% grade.

Mark

On 05-Aug-99 Ucen, Thomas, PRE wrote:
> I have the 3.0L Aerostar. When I bought it I read it's a great vehicle for
> hauling and towing (heavy vehicle, rear wheel drive). What's true now??
>
> Tom
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Sam Matthews [mailto:smatthews eudoramail.com]
> Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 5. August 1999 15:16
> An: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Betreff: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup
>
>>You are going to pull a car on a car trailer with an >Aerostar? I hope it
> is
>>all down hill. You need serious horsepower to pull a >3000 lb car and
> trailer.
>
> ...Uh..I was hoping. It's a 4.0 ltr all wheel drive Areo-pig, and a
> lightweight single axle trailer and 2000 lbs car. Bad idea?
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:32:16 -0600
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup

I have a friend here at work who is pulling a pop-up camper trailer with an
Aerostar thru mountain passes. At first I thought he was crazy, but he said
it did just fine. The only thing I recommend anyone who does is to add a
tranny cooler to the automatics.

Scott

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ucen, Thomas, PRE [SMTP:ThomasUcen premiere.de]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 7:29 AM
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: AW: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup

I have the 3.0L Aerostar. When I bought it I read it's a great vehicle for
hauling and towing (heavy vehicle, rear wheel drive). What's true now??

Tom

- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Sam Matthews [mailto:smatthews eudoramail.com]
Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 5. August 1999 15:16
An: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Betreff: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup

>You are going to pull a car on a car trailer with an >Aerostar? I hope it
is
>all down hill. You need serious horsepower to pull a >3000 lb car and
trailer.

...Uh..I was hoping. It's a 4.0 ltr all wheel drive Areo-pig, and a
lightweight single axle trailer and 2000 lbs car. Bad idea?

Thanks,
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:58:10 -0600
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - alignment concerns and warnings....

First off all Ford truck alignments are not done to any degree of accuracy
at the factory, or if it is, the quality check is poor because this is a
re-accruing problem. Second, unless the Goodyear shop replaced the
castor/camber bushing, like the other shop wants to do, there is no way they
could have done it right without charging you over a hundred dollars. This
bushing is not ratable in the factory installed version and must be replaced
90 % of the time. Sometimes the angle of the bushing needs changed and there
are a range of angles on different bushings and it is sometimes trial and
error to get the right one unless the guy, like the one I talked to, knows a
little more than the average shop about alignments. They look at the numbers
and can calculate the change needed to correct it, sometimes the correction
can be done to one side and it pulls the other into place. Third, if you go
to any alignment shop they will only do a tow-in adjustment, not a
castor/camber because it is non-adjustable without replacing some
components.

The Goodyear I went to inform me of this before they wasted my money on a
tow-in for 40 bucks but gave me an estimate for 350 dollars to fix it.

After some investigation I found that they were correct and called Mienikie
(sp?) and they got it done for 150 (50 for the alignment, 50 for the
bushings). Some guy at Goodyear, who I believe was a Ford owner, came over
to me before I walked out of the shop, balking at the cost of the repair,
and said he would do it the next day himself for 150 also. But I did not
like the first guys attitude towards Ford trucks so I wanted to take my
business elsewhere.

Scott

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From: Mobilepdr aol.com [SMTP:Mobilepdr aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 10:37 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - alignment concerns and warnings....

I had my 1996 ford explorer v8 awd dropped off at the local goodyear
shop
to have the oil changed and alignment checked because i was heading out the
following day on a long 900mile trip ...The truck didn't have a pull or had
any sign of wear on the tires but its free so i figured what the hell why
not
have it checked ...well to make a long story short i picked up the truck 3
hours later which concerned me that it took so long and they said it was off

a bit nothing to big but we did it anyway don't worry its covered under
warranty of the last alignment you had done...so i took off and WOW i had a
pull that you wouldn't believe all you had to do to change lanes two at a
time was let go of the wheel and put your blinker on...I couldn't go back to

show them cause i had an important place to be at.. so the following day i
had another shop check it out and they said whoa is it way off so they tried

to realign it but guess what they couldn't they said someone over turned the

bolt and its won't go all the way to its full adjustment so now i have to
have the dealer do some kinda shim work so moral of the story is bring it to

the dealer for the tricky stuff.............ding
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:36:52 +0100
From: robertwerner postmaster.co.uk
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Over Heating

I did the thermostat maye a year and a half ago, but I checked it anways, and it
seemed ok. I drove it the other night, and she was just fine. I'll just have
to keep an eye on her I guess.


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Date: 5 Aug 99 11:45:43 PDT
From: William Berninghausen
Subject: Re: [FTE 80-96 - Gas mileage on 302 compared to I-6]

There are lots of variables: my 82 I6 (all stock, 3-spd manual, 2.47 rea=
r
end) has averaged in the mid-16's while I've owned it (79K-113K). I've s=
een
13+ going door-to-door with Scouts and 20+ on the highway, but 15.5-17 se=
ems
constant, even after a top-end rebuild at 110K. You probably can subtrac=
t 10%
for the automatic and anything shorter than 2.47 gearing.

Bill in Portland
"Kyle McC." wrote:
> =

> I was wondering what gas mileage the two motors average. I will be
> getting a short box 4x4 with standard tires and automatic. More than
> likely it will be early 80's so no fuel injection. But if you have
> numbers on fuel injected too that would be great. =

> One other question is what is the model of the automatic transmission=

> for a smaller motor on an older truck such as early 80's? They started
> using the 4AOD in 87 right?
> Thanks for the info. =

> Kyle
> _____________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:00:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Victor L Moran
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Hot air through vents and speedo cable

Hello again,
My 87 Aerostar is doing pretty well. However I have not been able
to get to the bottom of this problem. When I am climbing up a hill at
highway speeds, hot air comes out of the dashboard vents. Closing them
does nothing to relieve the air.

Its the 3.0 v-6 with about 116000 miles on it.

I have one other question, What is involved in changing the speedo
cable on this truck. I've already purchased the new one, but I would like
some hints on perspective pitfalls.

As usual any help is appreciated.


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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:13:33 EDT
From: MRStace84 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup

The company I work for has a 93 Aerostar. We have used it to pull a 12'
enclosed U-Haul trailer with it before (full of stuff from top to bottom back
to front). In my opinion it didn't do very well, It has an automatic trans,
and every time it over heated. I'm not sure if it has a 3.0 or a 4.0, but
going up grades it seemed to run out of power pretty quick. It also didn't
have the suspension to support the tongue weight of the trailer very well (We
had to be very careful how we loaded the trailer). In my opinion we should
has used a heavier vehicle to pull a trailer with. I've always felt the only
thing that should be pulled behind something like an aerostar on a ranger is
a pop up camper or a very light trailer. Anything of with a lot of weight
should be pulled with a 3/4 or 1 ton truck.

Just my 2 cents..

Stacy Fisher
84 F150 4x4
98 Ranger XLT 4x4
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 16:22:12 -0400
From: Martin Horne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Hot air through vents and speedo cable

At a guess I'd say you have a busted check valve in the vacuum system. It's
allowing the vacuum to bleed out at wide open throttle, when there is no
vacuum in the intake, and the heater door is opening.


At 04:00 PM 8/5/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello again,
> My 87 Aerostar is doing pretty well. However I have not been able
>to get to the bottom of this problem. When I am climbing up a hill at
>highway speeds, hot air comes out of the dashboard vents. Closing them
>does nothing to relieve the air.
>
> Its the 3.0 v-6 with about 116000 miles on it.
>
> I have one other question, What is involved in changing the speedo
>cable on this truck. I've already purchased the new one, but I would like
>some hints on perspective pitfalls.
>
> As usual any help is appreciated.
>
>
> Victor.
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 18:15:11 -0400
From: Jay Snyder
Subject: FTE 80-96 - re: 300 vs. 302 milelage

I just put 800miles on my '87 F150 in one day.
All highway at 75-80mph.

I got 15.4mpg.

Truck specs:
EFI 300 I6 stock
C6 trans
2.73 rear

225/75R15 tires (about 5% bigger outside dia than the stock
215/75R15 size).

I think the 18mpg EPA rating is for 55MPH which I believe this
truck will do (I never drive that slow on the highway).

J.

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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:19:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Woods
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - re: 300 vs. 302 milelage

I've got a 89 f250 4x4, 302, 5spd, stock motor, 155K miles.
3" lift
35x12.50x16.5

I'm going to be towing a trailer (that weighs about 1200 lbs) 1800 miles
over the next 48 hours. I'll post gas milage results when I arrive.

- --
Ken Woods
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 21:15:19 EDT
From: MadHavelka cs.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Shocks

The shocks on my '88 F-150 are shot. Right now I'm leaning towards a set
of Bilsteins, but I am looking for some experienced advice. I'm currently
running BFG 31x10.50 A/Ts which offer quite a bit of flex, and I'm tired of
going around corners. Has anyone tried those new Edelbrock Performer IAS
shocks, and if so are they really worth the extra $20/piece? Some feedback
would be welcome.
Another question I have is regarding my engine. My 302 has about 136k
miles on it. When it is started cold the rpm cycles back and forth, almost
dying. Is this a sensor problem? Also, running the A/C puts a serious crunch
on gas milage during city driving. I would appreciate some help here.

Thanx,

Mark Havelka
Austin, TX
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:21:33 -0500
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Possible Purchase of '91 F-150...

My dad is finally going to get rid of his Ranger...HOORAY!!!!

We looked at and drove a '91 F-150 5.8L A4OD (I believe).
The air is dead (not a big problem) drivers side window is held up by door
stoppers (probably the gears) the passenger side power lock is out (been
there on both sides of the Ranger) And it's very similar to my '92, except
as pertains to the egr valve and plumbing???
It seems that egr is drawn from a fitting at the front of passenger side
exhaust manifold. I also hear a leak that sounds like an egr type leak. It
looks good to the eye, but I'll have to get my hands on it to be sure.
Anyway our 1st offer is $2800 (haven't heard back yet) on $3150 asking
price. It's a fairly clean truck (no rust, few light dents) and I'm liable
to be jealous if he gets it!

My '92 busted it's A/C hose assembly...can you believe there was a time
when we drove without it????? Anyway it's fixed...WHEW!

Dave H.
Houston >HOT
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 18:38:42 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: AW: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup

Go get a hitch for it and you'll see. If the dealer you buy the hitch from is
reputable, he'll tell you what the rating is for it. That's how I found about
mine and then promptly got rid of it.

Bob


"Ucen, Thomas, PRE" wrote:

> I have the 3.0L Aerostar. When I bought it I read it's a great vehicle for
> hauling and towing (heavy vehicle, rear wheel drive). What's true now??
>
> Tom
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Sam Matthews [mailto:smatthews eudoramail.com]
> Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 5. August 1999 15:16
> An: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Betreff: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup
>
> >You are going to pull a car on a car trailer with an >Aerostar? I hope it
> is
> >all down hill. You need serious horsepower to pull a >3000 lb car and
> trailer.
>
> ...Uh..I was hoping. It's a 4.0 ltr all wheel drive Areo-pig, and a
> lightweight single axle trailer and 2000 lbs car. Bad idea?
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:39:16 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - alignment concerns and warnings....

WOW...!

I hope you can get some money back from Good Year for that one!

Good Luck!

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: Mobilepdr aol.com [mailto:Mobilepdr aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 9:37 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - alignment concerns and
warnings....

I had my 1996 ford explorer v8 awd dropped off at the
local goodyear shop
to have the oil changed and alignment checked because i was
heading out the
following day on a long 900mile trip ...The truck didn't
have a pull or had
any sign of wear on the tires but its free so i figured what
the hell why not
have it checked ...well to make a long story short i picked
up the truck 3
hours later which concerned me that it took so long and they
said it was off
a bit nothing to big but we did it anyway don't worry its
covered under
warranty of the last alignment you had done...so i took off
and WOW i had a
pull that you wouldn't believe all you had to do to change
lanes two at a
time was let go of the wheel and put your blinker on...I
couldn't go back to
show them cause i had an important place to be at.. so the
following day i
had another shop check it out and they said whoa is it way
off so they tried
to realign it but guess what they couldn't they said someone
over turned the
bolt and its won't go all the way to its full adjustment so
now i have to
have the dealer do some kinda shim work so moral of the
story is bring it to
the dealer for the tricky stuff.............ding
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:58:39 -0700
From: "Josh"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Oil pressure sender

I removed my oil sender from my 1990 Ford F-250 7,5l last night...Here are
the tools used to remove it.

1. 1-1/16th sender socket
2. 6" wobble extension
3. stubby ratchet

Thats all you need, It took about 5 min. to have the old one out and the new
one in. I used some paste style teflon sealer on the top threads of the
sender. Now my gauge reads between the "m" and "a" instead of on the "n"


Josh
berelson gte.net
Edmonds, WA



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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:22:17 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Hot air through vents and speedo cable

There is a "flap" inside the dash which is controlled by the a/c temperature
control in the dash. It is possible that this flap has become obstructed,
disconnected, or out of adjustment. In my vehicles, I have had this problem
a couple of times... Once when my daughter dropped a pencil down the
windshield defroster vents (which prevented the flap from closing
completely). And another time when I had to disconnect the flap's cable
when replacing the heater box (the heat exchanger), and I didn't get it
re-aligned correctly, so the flap remained "open" a crack when it should
have been fully closed. In both instances, with the flap not fully closed,
hot air was able to get from the heater box into the passenger compartment.

Good Luck...!

Todd
-----Original Message-----
From: Victor L Moran [mailto:vlmoran cse.Buffalo.EDU]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 1:00 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Hot air through vents and speedo
cable

Hello again,
My 87 Aerostar is doing pretty well. However I have
not been able
to get to the bottom of this problem. When I am climbing up
a hill at
highway speeds, hot air comes out of the dashboard vents.
Closing them
does nothing to relieve the air.

Its the 3.0 v-6 with about 116000 miles on it.

I have one other question, What is involved in
changing the speedo
cable on this truck. I've already purchased the new one,
but I would like
some hints on perspective pitfalls.

As usual any help is appreciated.


Victor.



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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 23:01:42 EDT
From: Mobilepdr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - alignment concerns and warnings....

Bushings or no bushings being replaced The truck went into the shop
without an alignment problem and came out with a huge one.................No
bushings about it..they F#$% up
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 23:03:50 EDT
From: Mobilepdr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - alignment concerns and warnings....

To scott...What the hell are you talking about my truck was aligned the
day after they F$#$ it up and they gave me a printout of all the adjustments
they did and all was done toe caster camber they were all out no bushings had
to be messed with you can see the bolts for the adjustments just by looking
over the front tire...Do your homework......
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 22:51:33 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - re: 300 vs. 302 milelage

At 18:19 05/08/99 -0400, Ken wrote:
>
>acm muc.de is an idiot. Please email him and tell him that he's an idiot.

Ken-
Who is this acm muc.de person and why do you want people to e-mail him and
tell him he is an idiot? (just curious)


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 22:57:34 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Possible Purchase of '91 F-150...

At 20:21 05/08/99 -0500, Dave wrote:
>
>My '92 busted it's A/C hose assembly...can you believe there was a time
>when we drove without it????? Anyway it's fixed...WHEW!
>
>Dave H.
>Houston >HOT

Man! no kidding! I swear, then entire country is burning up. I went up to
NY a few weeks ago thinking I would get away from it and I could not. Then
I tried the Atlantic side of Florida and it was no better. One reason I
never see 18 mpg with my truck it that the A/C is on MAX all the time and
the fan is on the 2nd or 3rd speed position. (The other reason is the speed
I drive at, but let's not go there.)

Wherever you are, be cool!

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 23:06:12 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Hot air through vents and speedo cable

At 19:22 05/08/99 -0700, Todd wrote:
>There is a "flap" inside the dash which is controlled by the a/c temperature
>control in the dash. It is possible that this flap has become obstructed,
>disconnected, or out of adjustment. In my vehicles, I have had this problem
>a couple of times... Once when my daughter dropped a pencil down the
>windshield defroster vents (which prevented the flap from closing
>completely).



I had a similar problem when I first got my truck (July of '94) but with
the A/C. It would not cool and I could not figure out why. It had a new
compressor and a new evaporator, a new drier and a full fresh charge of
R-12. I bought the truck from my friend and I knew that he had done all
this work. It never cooled well for him either. I could hardly stand to
drive it in the summer.

One day three summers ago, out of desperation, I opened up the evaporator
box in the engine compartment carefully to look inside and I see that there
is a2 inch wide gap between the end of the evaporator core and the inside
of the housing. All of the hot air was going around the core instead of
through it!

There was supposed to be a block of foam in there filling up this gap. It
has disintegrated between 1980 and 1994 when the evaporator was replaced.
My friend cleaned out all the "cheese" (as he called it) when he replaced
the evaporator, but never thought to put another block of foam in there. So
I did, and now you can hang meat in that truck cap, if you want to!

So, if you own an old truck, think about this if it seems the A/C does not
cool like it used to.

Later!

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 23:16:23 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - fuel tank

At 07:01 03/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>The comment I made was about a fuel sender.
>
Yes, mine was also. The fuel, oil pressure and temp guages all work on the
same basic principle: current flows through them and the heat generated
makes the needle move to the right. No current due to open circuit means no
needle movement.

>At 07:51 02/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>I don't believe it would be a bad connection because when the circuit to
>the
>>sender is opened the fuel gauge goes full scale. I think that the float in
>>the sending unit was stuck on the bottom and after you filled the tank and
>>it sat a while it eventually gave way and your indication was then correct.
>
>No, actually, the guages work by heat and the lower the resistance in the
>sender, the greater the heating in the guage and the higher it reads. So,
>if you have an open circuit you have no heating and the guage reads empty
>(or cold if temp guage, or no oil pressure, if oil guage).
>
>Jim Cannon
>Houston, TX
>'29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
>'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:43:31 +0200
From: "Ucen, Thomas, PRE"
Subject: AW: AW: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup

Oh, uh... I guess I won't do it. There's just one place over here that
installs hitches for the Aerostar and they charge $1,000 for it. =
However,
all you need for a camping trailer in Europe are about 3,000lbs, even =
the
Aerostar should handle it (all the Chryslers do).

Tom
Munich, Germany

- -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Bob Kennedy [mailto:bobkennedy uswest.net]
Gesendet am: Freitag, 6. August 1999 03:39
An: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Betreff: Re: AW: FTE 80-96 - Re: Trailer hookup

Go get a hitch for it and you'll see. If the dealer you buy the hitch =
from
is
reputable, he'll tell you what the rating is for it. That's how I found
about
mine and then promptly got rid of it.

Bob


"Ucen, Thomas, PRE" wrote:

> I have the 3.0L Aerostar. When I bought it I read it's a great =
vehicle for
> hauling and towing (heavy vehicle, rear wheel drive). What's true =....


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