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80-96-list-digest Monday, August 2 1999 Volume 03 : Number 215



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In this issue:

Re: [FTE 80-96 - Old vs New F150s]
Re: FTE 80-96 - Alt rebuild parts Hi-po
Re: [Re: [FTE 80-96 - Old vs New F150s]]
Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s
FTE 80-96 - Eagle One Tire WET
FTE 80-96 - changing timing belt?
FTE 80-96 - RE: Wayne Foy's site
FTE 80-96 - old trucks
FTE 80-96 - new Fords
FTE 80-96 - Re: Why body lifts ?
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-Old vs. New
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-Old vs. New
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-"Friends Pics Page"
FTE 80-96 - Vehicles
FTE 80-96 - Mechanical fuel pump overheat??
Re: FTE 80-96 - changing timing belt?
Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - Alt rebuild parts Hi-po
Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s
FTE 80-96 - The New/Old thing.
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Why body lifts ?
Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - Mechanical fuel pump overheat??
Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems
FTE 80-96 - 83 Bronco Wiring Harness
Re: FTE 80-96 - MSD
Re: FTE 80-96 - MSD
Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - Spark Plug
Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 03:25:38 -0700
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: [FTE 80-96 - Old vs New F150s]

A body lift allows you to mount bigger tires without having to go to the
hassle of installing a suspension lift. Of course since the suspension
stays the same, the only practical application would be for situations where
maximum clearance is necessary, but suspension travel is not (mud bogging
being an example). Another use for a body lift is to mount REALLY big tires
once one runs out of practical suspension lift. The two types of lift are
commonly combined on trucks running 44"+ tires.

To bad I already know the answer: to keep your hand warm when you are
pushing it. >8^)

Rade
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From: William Berninghausen
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, July 31, 1999 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FTE 80-96 - Old vs New F150s]


AJSyndergaard webtv.net (Alan and Janyce Syndergaard) wrote:

>
> PS This was written tongue-in-cheek as was the other letter, I hope I
> haven't offended anyone. If I have, I apologize.
>
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Al:

Tongue-in-cheek? Of course!! I think we all participate in this list for
the
help we need and for the good-natured joshing. Occasionally we see comments
from folks who are a bit less than tolerant; these comments beg for a reply.
I have no intent to offend either. I'll bet Blake will agree.

My spouse drives a 96 Caravan with all the bells and whistles--new is best
for
reliability, especially with a mechanically-disinclined, differently-abled
(she rates a wheelchair sticker) driver. My kids share an 85 Honda
CRX--cheap
to run, reliable, and they can carry only one other teenager--other parents
know why!

So I'm not doctrinaire about anything but useful vehicles and economy. Darn
few of us can really afford a toy, darn it, and those who do can share with
us
the improvements/mods which can make our working vehicles work better.
Their
expertise is way more useful than anything Ford can tell us.

Thanks for the offer of the old computer, but I have an Osborne under the
desk
with a fully functional 2-5 1/4 drive CPM system and a 5" screen. It
satisfies that need--makes a great doorstop!

In short, I see this forum as open to all comers, with everybody welcome and
with everyone having something to offer. Now, I have a question: why body
lifts? They don't increase ground clearance, and they raise the center of
gravity too high. Is it a popular look? Increased suspension travel?

First good answer gets to know why Chevy embeds heating wires in its
tailgates.

Bill in Portland

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:37:09 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Alt rebuild parts Hi-po

Joe,
Bein Youre in Jersey, NY isnt too far a stretch for ya ( thats where i am
and where i get my parts most of the time)
Try Staves Truck Parts on Court Street ( Red Hook) Brooklyn if that dont
work theres a rebuilder i use who is pretty good ( he did up the starter on
my boat and says he can do most anything) Sarco Auto Enterprises and their
number is 718-848-7124 Hes at 100-14 Liberty Ave in Ozone Park Queens (
near Aqueduct raceway)
Let me know if that helps
Bob
Rolson1039 aol.com
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Date: 1 Aug 99 06:52:53 PDT
From: William Berninghausen
Subject: Re: [Re: [FTE 80-96 - Old vs New F150s]]

"Radoje Spasojevic" wrote:
> A body lift allows you to mount bigger tires without having to go to th=
e
> hassle of installing a suspension lift. Of course since the suspension=

> stays the same, the only practical application would be for situations
where
> maximum clearance is necessary, but suspension travel is not (mud boggi=
ng
> being an example). Another use for a body lift is to mount REALLY big
tires
> once one runs out of practical suspension lift. The two types of lift =
are
> commonly combined on trucks running 44"+ tires.
> =

> To bad I already know the answer: to keep your hand warm when you are
> pushing it. >8^)
> =

> Rade
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You win, of course. But now the question is why bigger tires? Two or th=
ree
sizes wider or taller than stock I can understand, but ladder-tall? Anyb=
ody?

Bill in Portland

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:06:57 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

In a message dated 7/31/99 11:07:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ACMERCG aol.com
writes:


want... But we aren't exactly into the same style of truckin...
>>
Joe,
LMAO buddy. Notice the title of the pages, "Flareside AND Ford Page". I have
pics of my buddies' Mustangs and other cars on there too. Send them to me.
I'll post them before the weekend is out.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
Wayne's Page
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:28:32 -0500
From: "Justen R. Noakes"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Eagle One Tire WET

Listers,

If you like the wet tire look on your vehicle (which I do), you have to give
this product a try. Eagle One
Tire WET with the special applicator does an awesome job at making your
tires look great! Not to mention it is pretty darn easy to apply, in my
opinion easier than the spray foam. You don't have to cover your wheels or
clean the spray/foam off of the wheels. The product is a little on the
pricey side, $5 for the WET and $2 for a 2 applicator pack (AutoZone in TX).
I first clean my tires with Wesley's (sp?) and then
use the Eagle One...POW, nice shiny and black!

As they say, just my $0.02 worth.

Thanks,

Justen Noakes
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'95 F150 XL
4.9 L, 5spd
31X10.5 BFG A/Ts
K&N Filter
RK Sport Box
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'99 VW Passat
1.8 T
Triptronic

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:21:15 EDT
From: SailSD aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - changing timing belt?

We have a 92 Ford Ranger 2.3L 4 cyl w/o air conditioning and 114,000 miles.
My daughter just got it 3 weeks ago and we are fixing it up for her to take
to college. With that many miles I think I should change the timing belt.
With this model I'm not sure if I have to remove the power steering pump or
anything else before I can get the cover off to change it. If anyone has done
this lately and can advise I would appreciate it greatly.

Thanks
Don Olliff
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:57:30 -0700
From: "McMahon, Todd R."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Wayne Foy's site

Wayne:

I enjoyed your site quite a bit... HazMat looks pretty awesome! From the
name, I half expected it to be some toxic florescent green color... I am
pleased that it is not.

I especially liked the F100's, man they're cool.... !

If you like, my truck can be found at: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://209.19.94.132/tmcmahon
(as well as a Land-Rover that I
rebuilt...)
There are not many pics of F350 yet, but I haven't had the beast for very
long... and I haven't spent much time on the site, so there's nothing but
some pics up there at the moment...

Oh yea, I thought I'd mention that a "NEXT PAGE" link might be useful on
your site... (just my 2 cents worth)

Later...

Todd

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:50:23 -0400
From: "Serian"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - old trucks

>> I'm getting a little miffed at all you owners of 86 to 91 Dinasours
>> F150s bad mouthing the later model trucks.

86-91 is a dinosaur ???
What the heck is my '83, or for that matter, my '79 then ? :-)

>> have put about 40,000 miles on it.
>> ( It currently has about 76,000
>> miles.)

just barely off the assembly line

>> The only problem I have had is that it will need a serpentine
>> belt about once a year. They tend to get noisey.

are your pulleys lined up properly, or is it that you live in a
place where the environment is rough on belts ? I live in
the northeast US winter salt belt, but still dont go through
engine belts that fast ...

>> bite the bullet and get a newer truck.

umm ... no thanks
I'd rather that my automobile not have more electronic
computing power than my K6-2/400

> Newer trucks are better if you like newer trucks.
> But they are not better than older trucks.
> Some may be and some are not. It is all in what you
> want.

and more importantly, the better an owner maintains the
truck, the better the truck will be, regardless of age or
mileage. Take care of your truck, and it will last 40+
years. Sure, you have to go through the hassle of
fixing all kinds of little things, but you end up with a
truck that you can be sure is the best one on the roads :-)

> I expect a truck to last 20 years or so... ten years is hardly broke in

aye ... thats just the point where the oil flows a little more freely
throughout the engine

> Oh, and a truck does not qualify as a dinasour unless it has solid
> rubber tires and mechanical brakes.

... and a wooden cab and manual windshield wipers :-)

> Like we've said from time to time, isn't it great that this forum
> has room for all kinds of ideas and opinions? I'll stick with an
> older truck because simplicity is valuable to me--
> and I believe it leads to reliability.

a quote from Star Trek III comes to mind ...

"... the more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to
stop up the drain ..."

The great thing about the older trucks is that you can limp
one home misfiring on 5 out of 8 cylinders, the carb WAY
out of adjustment, a half full radiator, and a dirty distributor.
(been there, done that ...)
It runs like crap like that, but it goes ...

Electronic engine control works great when everything is
within specs, but just ONE LITTLE thing out of whack, and
it refuses to run, let alone do any kind of miracles.
I'll stick with the old stuff ... easy to understand, tough as
a mountain, and very forgiving about its adjustments.

> Besides, with two in high school and one in college, an
> older truck allows me to equip them all with computers
> (a survival skill these days) and to equip me with the
> older box to communicate with you folks.

heh ... you're just saving up to get another truck,
aren't you ?? :-)

> To afford a new truck, I'd have to take them all out of school,
> sell the computers, and use web-tv to do email.

even then, it might not be enough ... new vehicle prices
are downright ridiculous and abominable. NO vehicle is
worth the price that these dealerships want for a new one.

> I can use a stick shift, so I'll stay with real computers
> and old trucks.

maybe even adapt one of those EEC modules to boost
the performance of an old 486, and watch it smoke a
Pentium III :-)


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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:01:10 -0400
From: "Serian"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - new Fords

> recently spent the day in a '99 F 250. WOW!
> What a difference! Power galore, even tighter
> steering than my '88, and super smooth-beefy
> feeling chassis. If I had to buy a new one, I
> wouldn't blink. Ford is building some great stuff
> right now.

Those '99 F250's look pretty darn slick, too ...
beautiful truck, but I'd still want to opt for a
carbureted, non-EEC 429/4spd in it :-)



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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:05:51 -0400
From: "Serian"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Why body lifts ?

> Now, I have a question: why body lifts?
> They don't increase ground clearance, and
> they raise the center of gravity too high.
> Is it a popular look? Increased suspension travel?

It raises the body (and thus, the fender wells) away
from the frame so that the owners who prefer to do
so can put those huge tires on their truck.

I personally would not want such a thing, as it *does*
make the center of gravity hazardously high, and
really kills fuel economy trying to turn those
monster mudders and push something with the
aerodynamics of an average refrigerator that high in
the air.



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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:21:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tracy H
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-Old vs. New

People, please! Everything is base on one persons
opinion. Thats like arguing over which is best, cats
or dogs. Because dogs can and can't do this and Cats
can do that... Its plain stupid. Sure, post your
opinion but don't fret over what other ppl say.

I have a 1984 ford f-150, 4X4 and I can't say that if
I had the money I wouldn't go and buy a 1999 f-350 XLT
super cab! I mean I love the looks of the new body
style. Then again, you have the 1950's trucks and they
have just as good body styles. They styles have there
ups and downs same with whats under the hood. The
later model fords are pretty much all computers and if
you look and ne ones home PC they are prone to
problems. But the same with the older fords, you have
the wiring problems, you have fuel gauge problems for
sure.

My family has owned fords for generations. My sister
has a 1999 ford that hasn't caused her ne problems
(thank god), yet my father has owned a 1988 ford that
has been literally trashed. It has been ran into the
ditch several times, rolled onto its roof etc. BUT!!
The only thing that has been replaced on it is the
battery and the occasional spark plugs. And it runs
great. The body may not look the greatest ne more but
it runs like a beauty, he still uses it for a work
truck (he now has a 1996 ford).

If everyone had the same opinon on everything then
this would be a really really boring world. I love to
see all the new trucks there great. But you can't help
to 'Ohh and Ahhh' every time you see a older model.
The older models also show ppl around how much the
treasure their truck and spent lots of time rebuilding
them.

For now I will have my 1984, until its beyond repair
(which hopefully won't be for a long time). Then
maybe, just maybe I will get a new model.. that is
unless a nice 1953 truck comes my way!!!! Then I will
have to go with it. = ) So keep it calm, cool and
collected; we don't want to scare ne of the great ppl
away from this list by arguing.

Its just something to think about.
Tracy


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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:23:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tracy H
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-Old vs. New

People, please! Everything is base on one persons
opinion. Thats like arguing over which is best, cats
or dogs. Because dogs can and can't do this and Cats
can do that... Its plain stupid. Sure, post your
opinion but don't fret over what other ppl say.

I have a 1984 ford f-150, 4X4 and I can't say that if
I had the money I wouldn't go and buy a 1999 f-350 XLT
super cab! I mean I love the looks of the new body
style. Then again, you have the 1950's trucks and they
have just as good body styles. They styles have there
ups and downs same with whats under the hood. The
later model fords are pretty much all computers and if
you look and ne ones home PC they are prone to
problems. But the same with the older fords, you have
the wiring problems, you have fuel gauge problems for
sure.

My family has owned fords for generations. My sister
has a 1999 ford that hasn't caused her ne problems
(thank god), yet my father has owned a 1988 ford that
has been literally trashed. It has been ran into the
ditch several times, rolled onto its roof etc. BUT!!
The only thing that has been replaced on it is the
battery and the occasional spark plugs. And it runs
great. The body may not look the greatest ne more but
it runs like a beauty, he still uses it for a work
truck (he now has a 1996 ford).

If everyone had the same opinon on everything then
this would be a really really boring world. I love to
see all the new trucks there great. But you can't help
to 'Ohh and Ahhh' every time you see a older model.
The older models also show ppl around how much the
treasure their truck and spent lots of time rebuilding
them.

For now I will have my 1984, until its beyond repair
(which hopefully won't be for a long time). Then
maybe, just maybe I will get a new model.. that is
unless a nice 1953 truck comes my way!!!! Then I will
have to go with it. = ) So keep it calm, cool and
collected; we don't want to scare ne of the great ppl
away from this list by arguing.

Its just something to think about.
Tracy


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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:45:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tracy H
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-"Friends Pics Page"

Wayne Foy wrote:


Do you have a pic or 2 of your truck? I'll post
them on my site if so. Been trying to get a "Friends
Pics Page" going, but its hard to get a lot of people
to send me pics.
HREF="http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/index.html">Wayne's
Page


Wayne, as soon as I get my truck done and such I would
be glad to send you pictures if you would like them. I
have a 1984 ford f-150, it isn't a flair side, but if
you would like the picts then let me know. It might be
a about 2 weeks though because I have to get the picts
developed (and taken! hehe).
~*Tracy*~
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:47:07 -0500
From: "Sam Means"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Vehicles

Don't know if anybody is interested,but I have started a webb site to
include pictures of vehicles that either have been, or still are, of
interest to me. The pictures can be seen at
"Smeans1.homepage.com/Means " . I would appreciate comments any of you might
have. I apologize for the chevy ; my only excuse is it was a car (a very
neat car) and not a truck.
BTW, I know of two sites that offer a good bit of space..free space.. for
either personal or business pages. Both have design tools that do a fair job
of creating the page,managing files,and adding features. Neither ,as far as
I can tell,offer either dynamics or audio without
personally providing the appropriate HTML code . Both Netscape and the above
mentioned "homepage.com" make this offer. Sam.


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Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 17:37:16 -0400
From: Bob Hirsch
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Mechanical fuel pump overheat??

Has anybody out there ever experienced a *mechanical* type fuel pump that can overheat and stop the truck?

I've been having a tough time troubleshooting a "stalls when hot problem" with my 84 F150 (302).

I've been running cold water on each part I suspect of heating up and the one that seems to be causing the problem is the fuel pump; but it's mechanical and I can't figure out how it can overheat.

Make any sense? Anybody have any similar experience? Should I change the pump or insulate it somehow?
Thanks.

Bob Hirsch
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:05:03 EDT
From: MRStace84 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - changing timing belt?

Don,

This should have probably been addressed on the small truck list, but I'll
try to throw some info your way anyway. I changed the timing belt on an 87
with a 2.3 that I used to have about 3 years ago. Didn't have to pull the
steering pump. If I remeber right I pulled the radiator shroud (If you could
call the little plastic thing that), fan, serpentine belt. I beileve I
pulled the thermostat because I couldn't get a bolt out of the timing belt
cover unless I did. Then I had to pull the crank shaft pulley so I could get
the timing belt cover off. I think your 92 should be about the same under
the hood as my 87. hope this helps.

Stacy

98 Ranger XLT 4x4
84 F150 4x4


My daughter just got it 3 weeks ago and we are fixing it up for her to take
to college. With that many miles I think I should change the timing belt.
With this model I'm not sure if I have to remove the power steering pump or
anything else before I can get the cover off to change it. If anyone has done
this lately and can advise I would appreciate it greatly.

Thanks

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:33:18 EDT
From: BigFords1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems

'84 F-150, 2WD, 351
My rear tank gauge is always at half. Sometimes(like once a month) it works
properly. I'm going to the dealer soon to fix everything on my truck that is
wrong, or at least what I know is wrong. Here's the list:

1. The blinker. I call it a manual blinker because I have to push it up and
down to get it to blink. If i just put it up, the blinker stays lit, but
doesn't blink.

2. Passenger side door lock will not lock and unlock from the outside.

3. Air conditioner blows hot air.

4. Rear fuel gauge doesn't read right.

5. Passenger side window doesn't work. The motor turns but the window just
falls down.

6. There is a wierd noise coming from under the engine when it accelerates.
I can hear it when I have the window down. It is the same thing that
happened to our Expedition when we first got it. The dealer said it was a
blown gasket.


Can anyone give me an estimate on how much this is going to cost? Thanks.


David
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Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 18:46:38 -0400
From: Mike Sloane
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems

Those sound like expensive repairs. I suggest you have the service
manager give you a call before they start doing the work - you could
find a bill that would equal the value of the truck (based on that year
and model being worth about $1500 around here).

Mike

BigFords1 aol.com wrote:
>
> '84 F-150, 2WD, 351
> My rear tank gauge is always at half. Sometimes(like once a month) it works
> properly. I'm going to the dealer soon to fix everything on my truck that is
> wrong, or at least what I know is wrong. Here's the list:
>
> 1. The blinker. I call it a manual blinker because I have to push it up and
> down to get it to blink. If i just put it up, the blinker stays lit, but
> doesn't blink.
>
> 2. Passenger side door lock will not lock and unlock from the outside.
>
> 3. Air conditioner blows hot air.
>
> 4. Rear fuel gauge doesn't read right.
>
> 5. Passenger side window doesn't work. The motor turns but the window just
> falls down.
>
> 6. There is a wierd noise coming from under the engine when it accelerates.
> I can hear it when I have the window down. It is the same thing that
> happened to our Expedition when we first got it. The dealer said it was a
> blown gasket.
>
> Can anyone give me an estimate on how much this is going to cost? Thanks.
>
> David
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 19:11:14 EDT
From: BigFords1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems

WOW! 1,500 bucks, that really sucks! I'll go give them a call, thanks man.

David
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Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 18:42:54 -0500
From: Edward Saunders
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems

Does it happen on both left and right turns? Check your flasher, or even make
sure all your bulbs aren't burned out. Sometimes one bad one can make that
happen.

Ed Saunders 86 F-150 302

>
>
> 1. The blinker. I call it a manual blinker because I have to push it up and
> down to get it to blink. If i just put it up, the blinker stays lit, but
> doesn't blink.
>

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 19:54:52 EDT
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Alt rebuild parts Hi-po

In a message dated 08/01/1999 9:39:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ROlson1039 aol.com writes:


Bein Youre in Jersey, NY isnt too far a stretch for ya ( thats where i am
and where i get my parts most of the time)
Try Staves Truck Parts on Court Street ( Red Hook) Brooklyn if that dont
work theres a rebuilder i use who is pretty good ( he did up the starter on
my boat and says he can do most anything) Sarco Auto Enterprises and their
number is 718-848-7124 Hes at 100-14 Liberty Ave in Ozone Park Queens (
near Aqueduct raceway)
Let me know if that helps
Bob
Rolson1039 aol.com >>
Well, I'm a lot closer than you think... I work on Linden Blvd in Brooklyn,
near Canarsie... I'm gonna check around there first to see if I can get a
cop car alt or one out of a 92-3 mustang, then I'll head out to the
rebuilders...

Thanks Bob...

Joe
Lost in jersey
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 19:56:01 EDT
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

In a message dated 08/01/1999 10:08:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
FLR150 aol.com writes:


LMAO buddy. Notice the title of the pages, "Flareside AND Ford Page". I have
pics of my buddies' Mustangs and other cars on there too. Send them to me.
I'll post them before the weekend is out.
Later >>
Soon as I get the photos developed man, I'll get them to ya... 33's look
cool........:)

Joe
Lost in Jersey
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:44:34 -0500
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - The New/Old thing.

I have a '92 that does what I need it to.
I would love a new Super Duty Powerstroke!!!
I would equally love a late 70's Crew Cab!
(Done with modern running gear of course)
I wouldn't think of dissing any one for having
either one!!!!!

On a different note, I had to go to Home Depot.
As I walk up towards building, a piece of paper
comes out a car window. I picked it up and said
"Excuse me, I think you dropped this" He shrugged,
and begin to cuss at me. Didn't our parents teach
us better? (he was obviously not born in USA)
I suspect he was raised by Baboons!!!!

Thanks for letting me rant! Ford Trucks FOREVER!!!

Dave H.
Houston >HOT!
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:08:01 EDT
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Why body lifts ?


It raises the body (and thus, the fender wells) away
from the frame so that the owners who prefer to do
so can put those huge tires on their truck.


make the center of gravity hazardously high, and >>>

What is failed to mention here is that a suspension lift creates the same
problems that a body lift does. Center of gravity issues may actually be
more valid with a suspension lift because it lifts more of the truck away
from the ground, whereas a body lift only raises the body higher, and not the
heavier frame and drivetrain assembly.

>

Monster mudders? You're kidding right? Properly geared, you should be able
to attain near stock fuel economy.


the air. >>

In case you haven't noticed, most of our trucks are already shaped like the
average refrigerator to begin with...

Joe
Lost in Jersey
92 F-150 4x4 302/AOD
K&N, Dynomax cat back
BFG MT 33x12.50x15
Super cool twin CB antennas
100k and still goin....
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:17:07 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems

Regarding trouble number one check the bulbs along the circut including the
little marker bulbs if one of them is out ( or one of the 1157 bulbs for the
turn signal) that will prevent the turn signal from blinking.
If that doenst pan out change the flasher unit its pushed in by the fusebox.
these things will take ya the better part of two minutes to check out and if
ya leave it to the dealer to check theyll bill you an hour or more to find a
non-existant short
hope that helps ya and saves ya some money
Bob
Rolson1039 aol.com
1989 F 250
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Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 17:18:43 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Mechanical fuel pump overheat??

Vapor lock, is the heating god liquid fuel to the point of boiling. It then becomes a vapor that the intake can not use. The majority of vapor lock conditions occur when elements are too close to the
engine/exhaust manifold. If the mechanical pump were generating this much heat by itself, it would be on the verge of destruction.

It could be the fuel line going into it or the fuel line leaving it that's drawing, then transferring the heat.

Bob


Bob Hirsch wrote:

> Has anybody out there ever experienced a *mechanical* type fuel pump that can overheat and stop the truck?
>
> I've been having a tough time troubleshooting a "stalls when hot problem" with my 84 F150 (302).
>
> I've been running cold water on each part I suspect of heating up and the one that seems to be causing the problem is the fuel pump; but it's mechanical and I can't figure out how it can overheat.
>
> Make any sense? Anybody have any similar experience? Should I change the pump or insulate it somehow?
> Thanks.
>
> Bob Hirsch
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Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 17:43:34 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems

BigFords1 aol.com wrote:

> '84 F-150, 2WD, 351
> My rear tank gauge is always at half

Can't help you with this one...

> . Sometimes(like once a month) it works
> properly. I'm going to the dealer soon to fix everything on my truck that is
> wrong, or at least what I know is wrong. Here's the list:
>
> 1. The blinker. I call it a manual blinker because I have to push it up and
> down to get it to blink. If i just put it up, the blinker stays lit, but
> doesn't blink.

This is probably a blown bulb, turn the switch on, turn on the blinker and see
which bulb is out.

>
>
> 2. Passenger side door lock will not lock and unlock from the outside

Does the key turn the tumbler in the door? If it does so, there is an arm it
attaches to that is also attached to the locking mechanism that is either
loose/broken. Dealer/bone yard item.

> .
>
> 3. Air conditioner blows hot air.

Wide open, could be simple, could be detailed.

>
>
> 4. Rear fuel gauge doesn't read right.
>
> 5. Passenger side window doesn't work. The motor turns but the window just
> falls down.

Gears are shot in window motor. Replacement gears are available, biggest problem
is getting to motor, it's riveted in, drilling and new bolts are required.

>
>
> 6. There is a wierd noise coming from under the engine when it accelerates.
> I can hear it when I have the window down. It is the same thing that
> happened to our Expedition when we first got it. The dealer said it was a
> blown gasket.

It should exhibit more problems than noise at acceleration. Like water in the
oil, oil in the water, or water in cylinders. What kind of noise is it? Could be
anything.

>
>
> Can anyone give me an estimate on how much this is going to cost?

Shop labor runs around 60 bucks an hour. Somebody else said the repair estimate
could very well exceed the cost of your truck. That's a good call.



> Thanks.
>
> David
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 19:43:15 -0700
From: "Carry Copeland"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 83 Bronco Wiring Harness

It is painfully clear to me that the variable venturi carb and duraspark III
setup is not will liked. I gathered this from the "throw it in the lake"
comment. There were no good comments.

So with this in mind, I would like to take everyones advice and replace this
setup. My question this time is, "Is it only the vv carb?" I was under the
impression that this was an integral part of the duraspark III ignition.

What should I replace it with. Keep in mind that I'm not a real mechanic.
But neither was the one who owned the shop, gave me the lousey advice about
this bronco, and then tried to take me to the cleaners to fix it.

Will I be able to remove the carb, distributor, and ignition system from a
different year 351W and bolt it onto mine? I live in Las Vegas so it will
need the smog. There again, I'm not sure what I can get away with.

For those of you who remember my first letter, you will notice that the
engine has changed from a 351M to a 351W. That was more information that I
received from that so called mechanic. According to what I'm now reading in
the Chiltons manual, it can't be a 351M. The M wasn't installed in 83 and
the thermostat housing is in the wrong place for an M.

If the answers to these questions are too lengthy, as I'm sure they are, is
there a book that will tell me how to do this swap?

Thanks for the help.

Reid
avsystems sprintmail.com

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:20:13 EDT
From: Mobilepdr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - MSD

Okay but how is the installation a snap or a lot of hunting for wires and
a lot of splicing......Do i have to change my plugs or the gap ......And is
it worth the $$$$, is there a seat of the pants difference or just lil more
peppy........thanks
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:07:28 EDT
From: Lwskywalk aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - MSD

its not any seat of the pants feelin but helps out the more mods ya do....get
the ford TFI harness from jegs summit or any local speed shop should have
it...then it red=red, orange=orange,=black=black, white=white. color coded
for your convience get a 6AL for 180.00 that is what i got found mine a
little bit cheaper i live in ga though so good luck easy install pop the
ignition coil wire outta it harness and plug the TFI harness in its place and
then plug the ignition wire into the other end of the harness and you are set
to plug everything in

luke
94 f150
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:15:17 EDT
From: BigFords1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems

All the lights work, they just don't blink. They stay lit. So when i turn I
have to move it up and down to turn the light on and off.

David
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Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 21:24:46 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - rear fuel tank/other problems

If the lights are all on, then the flasher is bad, it's located in the fuse box,
it doesn't make sense that one side won't blink, though. If the flasher is bad,
it wouldn't let the other side flash either. Do the 4 way flashers work?

Bob


BigFords1 aol.com wrote:

> All the lights work, they just don't blink. They stay lit. So when i turn I
> have to move it up and down to turn the light on and off.
>
> David
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:28:33 EDT
From: BigFords1 ....


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