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In this issue:

Re: [Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s]
FTE 80-96 - wheels
Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s
Re: FTE 80-96 - fuel tank
Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s
Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s
Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s
FTE 80-96 - Spark Plug
Re: FTE 80-96 - fuel tank
Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s
Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s
Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s
Re: FTE 80-96 - Spark Plug
FTE 80-96 - Old vs New F150s
FTE 80-96 - Flamin'
Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s
FTE 80-96 - Alt rebuild parts Hi-po
Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s
Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s
Re: FTE 80-96 - Flamin'
Re: [FTE 80-96 - Old vs New F150s]
Re: FTE 80-96 - Old vs New F150s - mix and match to create your perfect truck
RE: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:56:54 EDT
From: RiTruckGuy aol.com
Subject: Re: [Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s]

Blake Malkamaki wrote:
> >I'm getting a little miffed at all you owners of 86 to 91 Dinasours
> >F150s bad mouthing the later model trucks. I own a 93 XLT s/b 2wd with=
a
> >302ci and an EOD tranny. I have owned this truck since Oct. 1995, and=
I
> >have put about 40,000 miles on it. ( It currently has about 76,000
> >miles.) O a recent trip to Las Vegas it averaged 22.7 mpg. My fuel gag=
es
> >are accurate in both tanks, its temperature gage is accurate, it has
> >never over-heated even in stop and go traffic with the air on, it is
> >even still running the original battery. The only problem I have had i=
s
> >that it will need a serpentine belt about once a year. They tend to ge=
t
> >noisey.
> >
> >What I'm trying to say is that you can't make Chicken Salad out of
> >Chicken Droppings, bite the bullet and get a newer truck. I don't
> >believe that any brand of truck is going to be completley trouble free=

> >after 10 to15 years of use. By the way, I think that the 300 I-6 is a
> >great boat anchor, and I really hate rowing from light to light, so
> >stick shifts are out.
> >
> =

> Newer trucks are better if you like newer trucks. But they are not bett=
er
> than older trucks. Some may be and some are not. It is all in what you
want.
> =

> I expect a truck to last 20 years or so... ten years is hardly broke in=
=2E
> =

> I understand you not wanting a stick shift. Some people just never do l=
earn
> to use them.
> =

> Oh, and a truck does not qualify as a dinasour unless it has solid rubb=
er
> tires and mechanical brakes.
> =

> =

> Blake
> Little Mountain
> Concord, Ohio
> Early Oil Well Historian
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
> Web site design http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hitechdesign.com
> Desktop Publishing service
> "Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed."
> "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...."
> =

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Like we've said from time to time, isn't it great that this forum has roo=
m for
all kinds of ideas and opinions? I'll stick with an older truck because
simplicity is valuable to me--and I believe it leads to reliability.

Besides, with two in high school and one in college, an older truck allow=
s me
to equip them all with computers (a survival skill these days) and to equ=
ip me
with the older box to communicate with you folks. To afford a new truck,=
I'd
have to take them all out of school, sell the computers, and use web-tv t=
o do
email. I can use a stick shift, so I'll stay with real computers and old=

trucks.

Bill in Portland
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Guys,

I own both old and new right now....I have a '97 F150 4X4 Super Cab with the
Off Road package and a little '82 F100 Flare Side that I'm just finishing a
frame off rebuild on. Bottom line is I love both trucks. I find it quite
interesting watching how these trucks have evolved over the last few decades,
yet can still find similarities in design and concept from the '82 (and other
older trucks I've rebuilt) in the '97. Bottom line is that they're all
Fords...they were good back then, and they're good now. Trucks are work
vehicles...they get used hard and are going to develop problems. But while
individual problems we may run into are frustrating, we wouldn't have this
forum if their weren't a lot of them still running strong.

Enjoy,
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:25:57 -0600
From: "Ellsworth, Sam"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - wheels

just wondering if anyone out there is in the market for some white wide (5)
spoke wheels?
they are ford 5 lug pattern and are 12 inches wide. I blasted and painted
them and they are a little wider than I thought when I bought them. I had
them powder painted and they have sat for about a year. they can go pretty
cheap. I need to move 'em out.
let me know

SAM ELLSWORTH
santaquin, utah

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:55:24 EDT
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

In a message dated 07/30/1999 11:20:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
AJSyndergaard webtv.net writes:


302ci and an EOD tranny. I have owned this truck since Oct. 1995, and I
have put about 40,000 miles on it. >>
I've got a 92 F-150 that I got in Dec of 96 with 38k on it. Two weeks ago I
surpassed 100k, and I wouldn't trade it for any other truck. It's had it's
problems, but I relate them all to regular wear and tear, just like any truck
that is used as much as mine. I wouldn't call the older trucks Dinosaurs
though, they are going to wear just like anything else.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:09:23 -0700
From: Larry
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - fuel tank

Doug wrote:

> Sounds like you just have a loose connection. Do you notice erratic readings
> when the vehicle is wet. ( Driving in the rain. ) May also be a bad ground,
> but it mostly sounds like a bad connection either on the back of the gauge,
> or near the sending unit itself. Good Luck. Let me know when you find out
> what it is. Firefitr cxp.com
>

It was totally dry when it happened, and the gauge read the rear tank fine, just
showed the front empty when it wasn't. Except for those few days when it showed
empty, it's worked fine before and since. No erratic readings, no problems
whatsoever.

I'll check the connections, but if it were at the gauge I would think it would
have showed both tanks empty. Is this correct?

- --
-=Larry=-



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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:32:35 -0700
From: Larry
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

Alan and Janyce Syndergaard wrote:

> I'm getting a little miffed at all you owners of 86 to 91 Dinasours
> F150s bad mouthing the later model trucks.

My truck's a 91. The only problem I've had has been a bad reading on the
fuel gauge. It's big and green, but that's the only similarity it has to a
dinosaur. Other than normal maintenance, it's never needed anything. The
battery was just replaced last year, and I finally got the AC re-charged...
it was still keeping things cold... just not as cold as it used to. I put in
a Flow Tech exhaust system (the flow master was too raspy for my ears), and
a K&N air filter. I replaced the shocks a few months ago with KYB's.

>
> What I'm trying to say is that you can't make Chicken Salad out of
> Chicken Droppings, bite the bullet and get a newer truck. I don't
> believe that any brand of truck is going to be completley trouble free
> after 10 to15 years of use. By the way, I think that the 300 I-6 is a
> great boat anchor, and I really hate rowing from light to light, so
> stick shifts are out.
>

My truck has 53,000 miles on it. It doesn't get used all that much, but when
I need a truck, it's there. I can't see buying a new one at this point. It
would be a waste of money FOR ME. I just don't use it often enough to
justify that sort of purchase. I guess what I'm saying is that my truck is
fine for my needs. I couldn't be bothered with a short bed, but some people
like those. I prefer my 351 to your 302 as well, but that doesn't make my
truck better than yours. It just fits my needs better than your truck would.
I presume your truck fits your needs better than mine would. Trucks are very
versatile. You can get one to fit any application. Ford Trucks are
especially so.

>
> Thanks for letting get this off my chest,
>

No problem, but big green trucks are sensitive to being called dinosaurs.

- --
-=Larry=-

'91 F-150 XLT Lariat
'98 Honda Prelude
'99 Honda Civic Si

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:12:18 -0400
From: Cliff McLarty
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

It's interesting to note that newer vehicles (trucks in this case) give me
sticker shock. Whenever I can find a good "old" truck, that's the way I
will go. Being that I am more pragmatic than most (tightwad) I ran some
figures to see what the cost, per mile would be on my truck compared to my
"newer" suburban.

Given: Mileage per month = 1,250
Cost per gal. = $1.20
Maint. cost not included (i.e. oil, sparkplugs, etc.)

1988 F-150 4x4, 351w - stock
MPG = 10
Repairs per year = $0 - 1,500 (I'll use 1500 as an extreme)
No monthly vehicle payment

1996 Chevy(sorry about that) Suburban (Wife's, but I get to use it to pull
bass boat
on long
distance tourney trips -
great
puller)
MPG = 15
Monthly payment = approx $500
No repairs

After all was said and figured the F-150 cost me approx. 20 cents per mile
to operate and the suburban runs me approx. 48 cents per mile to operate.
My older vehicle costs me around 42% less, per month, to operate. That is
why I stick with the older models.

Guess what I'm trying to say is: Don't bum out on the older model
enthusiasts. They are the ones that will keep a little bit of Americana
alive on the road. Don't you like to see those neat "old" cars (sporters,
57 T-birds, 55 chevys, etc.) Different strokes for different folks. That's
what keeps the automobile industry churing out the products.

To the defense of Alan, those "older" truckers who bash "newer"
truckers...shame on you. They have as much right to their 4-wheels on the
road as we "older" truckers. Let's give everyone a bit of room on the super
hiway.

Keep the gas pumps pumping and the tires a turning.


Alan and Janyce Syndergaard wrote:

> I'm getting a little miffed at all you owners of 86 to 91 Dinasours
> F150s bad mouthing the later model trucks. I own a 93 XLT s/b 2wd with a
> 302ci and an EOD tranny. I have owned this truck since Oct. 1995, and I
> have put about 40,000 miles on it. ( It currently has about 76,000
> miles.) O a recent trip to Las Vegas it averaged 22.7 mpg. My fuel gages
> are accurate in both tanks, its temperature gage is accurate, it has
> never over-heated even in stop and go traffic with the air on, it is
> even still running the original battery. The only problem I have had is
> that it will need a serpentine belt about once a year. They tend to get
> noisey.
>
> What I'm trying to say is that you can't make Chicken Salad out of
> Chicken Droppings, bite the bullet and get a newer truck. I don't
> believe that any brand of truck is going to be completley trouble free
> after 10 to15 years of use. By the way, I think that the 300 I-6 is a
> great boat anchor, and I really hate rowing from light to light, so
> stick shifts are out.
>
> Thanks for letting get this off my chest,
>
> Al
>
> PS Wayne, I checked out your truck at the site. I like it a lot, My
> truck is also lowered, and slightly modifided.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:43:22 -0400
From: Martin Horne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

At 09:32 AM 7/31/99 -0700, you wrote:

>No problem, but big green trucks are sensitive to being called dinosaurs.


I don't know why you say that. I think it's rather flattering. After all,
dinosaurs were generally big and powerful, and at one time they were the
supreme form of life on earth !
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:12:45 -0700
From: "wcarroll"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Spark Plug

Just a quick question to the group.

What would be the effect of putting in spark plugs, that are the wrong heat
range, into a 91 F-150 351?

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:11:08 -0400
From: "Doug"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - fuel tank

>I'll check the connections, but if it were at the gauge I would think it
would
>have showed both tanks empty. Is this correct?
-=Larry=-
>

Do you have a tank selector switch. ( A switch that controls which tank you
pull fuel out of. ) If so, then there is not any reason why both tanks would
read empty, for they each have their own sending units. Hope this is a help
to you.

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:26:55 -0500
From: Edward Saunders
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

I happen to like that my truck is paid for and can be used like a truck. I
don't have to worry about the pinstripes left by every trip into the woods.
I don't have to worry about scratching the bed hauling dirt or gravel. To
me thats what a truck is all about. I don't have a problem with new trucks,
I would love to be able to afford one, I just can't. But to me trucks these
days have more features than my car. Which is a little ironic, is a tough
and rugged truck supposed to have leather seats and a place to keep the
champagne chilled?

Ed Saunders
86 "Dirt Brown, peeling paint" F-150 4X4 302

Alan and Janyce Syndergaard wrote:

> I'm getting a little miffed at all you owners of 86 to 91 Dinasours
> F150s bad mouthing the later model trucks. I own a 93 XLT s/b 2wd with a
> 302ci and an EOD tranny. I have owned this truck since Oct. 1995, and I
> have put about 40,000 miles on it. ( It currently has about 76,000
> miles.) O a recent trip to Las Vegas it averaged 22.7 mpg. My fuel gages
> are accurate in both tanks, its temperature gage is accurate, it has
> never over-heated even in stop and go traffic with the air on, it is
> even still running the original battery. The only problem I have had is
> that it will need a serpentine belt about once a year. They tend to get
> noisey.
>
> What I'm trying to say is that you can't make Chicken Salad out of
> Chicken Droppings, bite the bullet and get a newer truck. I don't
> believe that any brand of truck is going to be completley trouble free
> after 10 to15 years of use. By the way, I think that the 300 I-6 is a
> great boat anchor, and I really hate rowing from light to light, so
> stick shifts are out.
>
> Thanks for letting get this off my chest,
>
> Al
>
> PS Wayne, I checked out your truck at the site. I like it a lot, My
> truck is also lowered, and slightly modifided.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:43:36 -0700
From: Larry
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

Martin Horne wrote:

> At 09:32 AM 7/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >No problem, but big green trucks are sensitive to being called dinosaurs.
>
> I don't know why you say that. I think it's rather flattering. After all,
> dinosaurs were generally big and powerful, and at one time they were the
> supreme form of life on earth !

Maybe because they're extinct? :-)


- --
-=Larry=-




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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:17:13 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

In a message dated 7/30/99 11:20:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
AJSyndergaard webtv.net writes:


truck is also lowered, and slightly modifided. >>

Al,
Thanks for the kind words. Do you have a pic or 2 of your truck? I'll post
them on my site if so. Been trying to get a "Friends Pics Page" going, but
its hard to get a lot of people to send me pics. Let me know. If you don't
have a scanner or access to one, email me off list and I'll give you my
address to send them to. I'll scan them and then send them back to you. Cool?
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
Wayne's Page
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:26:51 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Spark Plug

In a message dated 7/31/99 2:09:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wcarroll island.net writes:



What would be the effect of putting in spark plugs, that are the wrong heat
range, into a 91 F-150 351? >>

Well it depends on your driving habits. I have to run 2 ranges cooler than
stock due to the power (and heat) my motor makes. I also run the "squeeze" on
occasion, so a cooler plug is imperative.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
Wayne's Page
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:36:53 -0600 (MDT)
From: AJSyndergaard webtv.net (Alan and Janyce Syndergaard)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Old vs New F150s

Thanks for the response to my letter, but I think that you missed the
point. Just because you are unable to buy or just plain to cheap to buy
a late model truck, that does not mean that old trucks are better. I
have owned and rebuilt , repaired, refurbished old trucks and I have
owned brand new, nearly new, and late model trucks in the last 29
years. New is better. The idea of being able to jump into my truck and
drive to Las Vegas to see my daughter without being concerned about
alternator fires, over heating, running out of gas due to a faulty gage
is worth it.

Now to Blake Little Mtn. and Bill Portland. You two really know how
to hurt a persons feelings. First, if you go into an auto parts store,
give the guy behind the counter your make, model, and year of your truck
and nothing comes up on their computer, that vehicle might not be a
dinosaur, but definitely may be on the endangered species list. I also
realize that my experience with stick shift trannies pales in comparison
to your vast knowledge. Only 4 of the 9 trucks that I have owned in the
past 29 years were sticks. The fact that I have a Class A Commercial
Drivers License and I drive every thing from 3/4 ton trucks, Hummers,
all the way up to 18 wheelers for my job as a quality control inspector
for an Army Reserve truck maintenance shop is no doubt nothing compared
to your experience.

Bill, I do feel your pain. My daughter ( She gave my Web TV system.)
just graduated from college about 1 1/2 years ago, so I can sympathize
with your problems. I am very blessed , however, because my employer
provides me with a high-zoot computer system, so I don't have to go out
and buy a new fangled, high tech, super- what-danged system just to use
to get on the"Net". If you sincerely believe that older and simpler is
the best way to go, I have a Epson Turbo 88 PC with Word 3.0 installed I
can make you a heck of a deal on. If yo act fast I'll even throw in a
daisy wheel printer.

Al

PS This was written tongue-in-cheek as was the other letter, I hope I
haven't offended anyone. If I have, I apologize.

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:10:41 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Flamin'

>I'm getting a little miffed at all you owners of 86 to 91 Dinasours
>F150s bad mouthing the later model trucks. I own a 93 XLT s/b 2wd with >a 302ci and an EOD tranny. I have owned this truck since Oct. 1995,

>Newer trucks are better if you like newer trucks. But they are not >better than older trucks. Some may be and some are not. It is all in >what you want.

>I understand you not wanting a stick shift. Some people just never do >learn to use them.

I'm trying to figure out why a guy who posts how much he likes his
newer Ford truck would get flamed on a Ford-Trucks Enthusists list.
If I had the bucks I would have a 99 Super Duty along with(not to
replace)my 76,84 and 91.Come to think of it I would trade the 84 in
on it.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:05:15 EDT
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

In a message dated 07/31/1999 9:19:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
FLR150 aol.com writes:


its hard to get a lot of people to send me pics. >>

Dude, I'll send you one of my new pics when they are dveloped if you
want... But we aren't exactly into the same style of truckin...

Joe
Lost in Jersey
92 F-150 4x4 302/AOD
K&N, Dynomax cat back
BFG MT 33x12.50x15
Super cool twin CB antennas
100k and still goin....

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:05:11 EDT
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Alt rebuild parts Hi-po


Anyone know where I could get a high amp rebuild kit the Alt in my truck?
I'd be looking to go min. 150amps, but I'd like to go to 180...

Later...

Joe
Lost in Jersey
92 F-150 4x4 302/AOD
K&N, Dynomax cat back
BFG MT 33x12.50x15
Super cool twin CB antennas
100k and still goin....
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:12:47 -0400
From: "Doug"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

ATTN : Wayne Foy

I have a Ford that you want to post on your website. Send an e-mail if you
are interested. Firefitr cxp.com

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:22:26 -0500
From: Edward Saunders
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

I'll send you a pic of my truck, but be warned she ain't pretty. But thats
why I love her. Where should I send it?

Ed Saunders 86 F-150 302 4X4

ACMERCG aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 07/31/1999 9:19:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> FLR150 aol.com writes:
>
>
> its hard to get a lot of people to send me pics. >>
>
> Dude, I'll send you one of my new pics when they are dveloped if you
> want... But we aren't exactly into the same style of truckin...
>
> Joe
> Lost in Jersey
> 92 F-150 4x4 302/AOD
> K&N, Dynomax cat back
> BFG MT 33x12.50x15
> Super cool twin CB antennas
> 100k and still goin....
>
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:04:09 -0700
From: "Nolan Woodbury"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Flamin'

I have a '88 F 150 LB with a 302 4 speed OD.

I buy a newer truck (Suburban) for my wife (and 4 kids) every 5 years or
so, and, for years bought one piece of sh*t after another for my personal
work beater. I bought my Ford because it had low miles and was in excellent
(mint) shape. If I put on 40-50K a year, I would most likely *have* to get
something newer, if for nothing else, to stay ahead of the wear and tear. I
love my F 150 (it's the best-nicest driving truck I've ever had) but
recently spent the day in a '99 F 250. WOW! What a difference! Power
galore, even tighter steering than my '88, and super smooth-beefy feeling
chassis. If I had to buy a new one, I wouldn't blink. Ford is building some
great stuff right now.

Nolan Woodbury
Coolidge, AZ

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Date: 31 Jul 99 21:02:55 PDT
From: William Berninghausen
Subject: Re: [FTE 80-96 - Old vs New F150s]

AJSyndergaard webtv.net (Alan and Janyce Syndergaard) wrote:

> =

> PS This was written tongue-in-cheek as was the other letter, I hope I
> haven't offended anyone. If I have, I apologize.
> =

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Al:

Tongue-in-cheek? Of course!! I think we all participate in this list fo=
r the
help we need and for the good-natured joshing. Occasionally we see comme=
nts
from folks who are a bit less than tolerant; these comments beg for a rep=
ly. =

I have no intent to offend either. I'll bet Blake will agree.

My spouse drives a 96 Caravan with all the bells and whistles--new is bes=
t for
reliability, especially with a mechanically-disinclined, differently-able=
d
(she rates a wheelchair sticker) driver. My kids share an 85 Honda CRX--=
cheap
to run, reliable, and they can carry only one other teenager--other paren=
ts
know why!

So I'm not doctrinaire about anything but useful vehicles and economy. D=
arn
few of us can really afford a toy, darn it, and those who do can share wi=
th us
the improvements/mods which can make our working vehicles work better. T=
heir
expertise is way more useful than anything Ford can tell us.

Thanks for the offer of the old computer, but I have an Osborne under the=
desk
with a fully functional 2-5 1/4 drive CPM system and a 5" screen. It
satisfies that need--makes a great doorstop! =


In short, I see this forum as open to all comers, with everybody welcome =
and
with everyone having something to offer. Now, I have a question: why bo=
dy
lifts? They don't increase ground clearance, and they raise the center o=
f
gravity too high. Is it a popular look? Increased suspension travel?

First good answer gets to know why Chevy embeds heating wires in its
tailgates.

Bill in Portland

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 03:13:36 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Old vs New F150s - mix and match to create your perfect truck

New vs. old trucks...

As has been stated, personal opinion is the strongest emotion in
determining which is prefered. All makes of trucks seem to have most
desirable years and models... certain years held up better; certain years
had stronger engines, transmissions, or other features; certain years are
considered more classics than others.

As far a Ford trucks go, I don't think there is a heck of a lot of
difference between 1980 to 1996 trucks of the same model and GVW rating.
Engines evolved with more electronic controls, interiors gained cup holders
and air bags, and a few body curves changed. Frames are basically the same,
as are suspension and dimensions. Most have the same poor features too.

I would like to take the best of everyone's favorite Ford year and put them
together to make a "perfect" truck. This however, would still be just an
opinion.

My personal combination would include:

*1978 Cab - with no interior plastic and plenty of metal to screw things to.
*1978 solid axle with coil sprung front end
*1977 divorced cast iron gear-driven transfer case
*199X NV4500 transmission (maybe have to steal this from a Dodge)
*1988 computer controled fuel injected gas or turbo diesel engine
*1988 instrument panel with tach (but with gauges that work)
*199X air conditioning that works
*1978 floor vents that really bring the air in

Remember... this is all for fun. I believe Ford did take some of these
suggestions on the new Super Duties.

Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
Early Oil Well Historian
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:30:49 +1000
From: les
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Later Model F150s

On Saturday, July 31, 1999 3:11 PM, Blake Malkamaki
[SMTP:blake little-mountain.com] wrote:
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