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From: owner-80-96-list-digest To: 80-96-list-digest Subject: 80-96-list-digest V3 #177 Reply-To: 80-96-list Sender: owner-80-96-list-digest Errors-To: owner-80-96-list-digest Precedence: bulk 80-96-list-digest Friday, June 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 177 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980-1996 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 80-96 - 1993 Ford Bronco Problems RE: FTE 80-96 - Mileage Re: FTE 80-96 - Need more power for 300 Re: FTE 80-96 - Need more power for 300 Re: FTE 80-96 - 1993 Ford Bronco Problems Re: FTE 80-96 - Need more power for 300 FTE 80-96 - Brakes get "grabby" when wet FTE 80-96 - BFG Trac Edge?? FTE 80-96 - I6 power problems continued... Re: FTE 80-96 - Need more power for 300 Re: [FTE 80-96 - Brakes get Re: [FTE 80-96 - I6 power problems continued...] Re: [FTE 80-96 - Brakes get Re: [Re: [FTE 80-96 - Brakes get] Re: [Re: [FTE 80-96 - Brakes get] FTE 80-96 - Dynamat (again) and road noise. FTE 80-96 - Radius Arm Bushing Replacement Re: FTE 80-96 - Radius Arm Bushing Replacement Re: FTE 80-96 - Radius Arm Bushing Replacement Re: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing Re: [FTE 80-96 - I6 power problems continued...] Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: 85 or 78 F-150 FTE 80-96 - Need more power for 300 Re: FTE 80-96 - Radius Arm Bushing Replacement FTE 80-96 - Cams for computer engines ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:19:07 EDT From: OnDuty365 Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1993 Ford Bronco Problems I have a 1993 Ford Bronco with a 302 and one of those transmissions! What I want to do is take out the fuel injection, put in a 351, and put a C-6 tranny in it. I'm tired of this Bronco breaking down and having to replace transmissions. The second gear keeps going out! Anyone have any suggestions or ever did a project like this, anything I should be aware of? Please let me know I need help! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:06:34 -0400 From: "Ratcliff, Dale" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Mileage CONSUMER REPORTS did a test of gas mileage with the tailgate up or down and found there was no significant difference. The biggest problem with leaving the gate down is the tailgate will rust out sooner. The moisture trapped in the tailgate has nowhere to drain. If you run with the tailgate down, be sure to put it up after a rain or heavy dew. Dale Ratcliff Email : dratc 92 F150SC 351 Auto - -----Original Message----- From: Radoje Spasojevic [mailto:rspasoje Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 10:24 PM To: 80-96-list Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Mileage I picked up 1-2 MPG just from the Filtercharger, plus another 1 MPG from the mass-air conversion (but the mass-air conversion is too expensive to buy just for the mileage). Losing the tailgate will definitely help some, but trucks just aren't going to get very good mileage no matter what. Rade - -----Original Message----- From: Jo blow To: 80-96-list Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:06 PM Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: 85 or 78 F-150 >I am trying to figure out how to get better mpg out of my 93 302. I >know that a Filtercharger helps, but what else? What kind of headers >are best. I/ve heard that droppin the tailgate helps too. Might try >that > >--- Dave Harmier wrote: >> My aunt had an approx. '81 F-100 I-6/auto, that >> never gave any big trouble. >> My uncle had an '82 F-150, I-6/4 spd., that REALLY >> needed a carb. >> My neighbor has a '78 I-6/std. that REALLY!!!!!!!! >> Needs a carb! >> I had a '79 F-150 ('til I wadded it ) and I MISS >> that darn thing! >> >> My take is, the '78 is tougher, and simpler. But a >> Dallas truck should have >> a GREAT body! >> So at least get a couple pics of the 85 before you >> leap! >> >> Dave H. >> Houston, TX >> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info >> http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:37:21 -0400 From: "KA" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need more power for 300 > I've got a '94 F150 with a 300 ... > It really starts pinging, and I'm wondering if there is a problem, or if I just need to modify the > engine to gain some more torque. Did this problem come on gradually? High mileage? My high mileage 300 gradually started pinging more and more. I removed the head and scraped the carbon from the tops of the pistons and removed the carbon from the valves and head. Ran great after that (the carbon retains heat and prompts pre-ignition, and a healthy layer of it can increase compression, which can cause more ping). It's a fairly easy procedure (for a motorhead) in the 300 as compared to other engines. The dealer and some service shop will claim that they can de-carbonize an engine using a machine that circulates detergent through the engine - I do not know if that treatment is effective (I'm skeptical, only because I know just how hard you must scrape to remove the carbon). Ken == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:01:00 -0700 From: "Monty Levere" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need more power for 300 I own a 93 regular cab 4x4, I6 300 with a 5 speed, and it is a gutless wonder. Driving down the highway at 55 mph, and hit a hill and it cannot maintain that speed. If I pulled the boat (20 foot Bayliner it would suck up a 1/3 tank of gas in less then 40 miles (18 gal tank). Granted it has been good to me for 6 years, but I upgraded to a 90 w/7.3 diesel. The computer and all of the smog stuff took the heart out of the 300. To bad it was a good motor in its heyday. But I suppose that is why ford discontinued it in the new trucks. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:06:47 -0700 From: redmist Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1993 Ford Bronco Problems OnDuty365 > > I have a 1993 Ford Bronco with a 302 and one of those > transmissions! What I want to do is take out the fuel injection, put in a > 351, and put a C-6 tranny in it. I'm tired of this Bronco breaking down and > having to replace transmissions. The second gear keeps going out! Anyone have > any suggestions or ever did a project like this, anything I should be aware > of? Please let me know I need help! Oh, oh. Just when I was about to ask why my Tranny is seems t be skipping second gear once in a while. I had it in Low 4X4 the other day just to haul some wood across the yard so I could crawl across the lawn and wouldn't wreck the grass. I took it out of low range, and when I went to take it on the highway after unloading, it revved up super high in 1, and then appeared to skip to three. When I slowed down at an intersection, it did it again. When I got into the city, I was planned to get it checked out, and then it stopped. What the hell does this mean?? Sheldon Charron, Manitoba, Canada '94 F150 XLT SC/SB 4X4, 302, E40D == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:33:23 -0700 From: Bob Kennedy Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need more power for 300 The 300 is the big I6. Bob redmist > Jim Cannon wrote: > > > > This engine is KNOWN for torque. Sounds like things are not working > > properly to me, with all that pinging. '94 is new enough that computer > > should sense knock and retard spark. I think you need to have it looked at. > > > >I've got a '94 F150 with a 300, and I'm towing a travel trailer. The > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > What is a 300?? I thought Ford only made I6's, 302's, 351's and > diesels. Is this a diesel? > > Shel > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:14:36 EST From: "James" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Brakes get "grabby" when wet I've had my new (old) 1989 F150 for about 5 weeks and we're still getting used to each other. Today is the first time I've driven the truck in the rain and the brakes are extremely "grabby". Is this a sign that the shoes/pads are due for replacement or is this just a quirk for my model? Thanks, James Hiers BTW, Does anyone know of a Ford dealer that sells at a discount, I want to get a Factory shop manual. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:56:51 -0700 From: redmist Subject: FTE 80-96 - BFG Trac Edge?? BFG just got back to me in response to an e-mail I sent them a couple of weeks ago. They suggested I go with a tire of theirs called the Track Edge. Apparently it is a three ply sidewall LT tire that has a very agressive tread design and is studdable for deep snow and ice. "Vince" said that a lot of guys run them studded in B.C. in the mountains and they are supposed to be BFG's best tire for icy road conditions. Although, Vince said that policy is to quote the minimum, he told me if it were him, he wouldn't worry about the 7.5" rims and 11.5" wide tires. He said if it were him, he wouldn't care and doesn't think I'll notice any problems with wear for .5", which is exactly what I figured. As I'm writing this, my fax machine kicked in, and I got a fax from him on the Trac Edge tire. It certainly does have lots of lugs, but they all have a fair bit of siping. Unfortunately, they only come in one 15" size: LT235/75/15!! Maybe what I'll do is run the M/T's for summer fun, and find some 16" Ford rims to run oversize Trac edge's with studs in the winter. BTW, he also confirmed that BFG will be introducing a 32X10.5" tire within about 1-2 years in the USA in the All Terrain T/A KO. Sheldon Charron, Manitoba, Canada '94 F150 XLT SC/SB 4X4, 302, E40D == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:55:04 +0000 From: summitds Subject: FTE 80-96 - I6 power problems continued... Thanks for the replies guys. > What gearing do you have in the rearend? The door sticker fell off a couple of years back, so when my wife brings the truck home tonight I'll have to check the tag on the rearend to find out. > AFAIK the EFI 300 was not equipped with a knock sensor, this is the only way > the computer can "sense" a knock. A solution to the problem might be to try > running high octane fuel or retarding the base timing a little. Of course > headers and a K&N filtercharger wouldn't hurt in the power dept. This coming week I'll be heading up-mountain, so I'll try the higher octane fuel. This is what the dealer service suggested. I don't think it's the timing, as I had a full service done a month back (timing, plugs, fuel filter, air filter etc.) > Pinging could be caused by any number of things: > > - - overheating (check thermostat) > - - very lean mixture (change fuel filter in last year or 2?) > - - base timing too advanced > - - ignition wires cross-firing (are they new; are they well separated?) > - - partial plugged exhaust (but this usually just results in loss of high > RPM performance) As I mentioned above, fuel filter was replaced, and dealer swears the timing was set proper. I'll have a look at the ignition wires tonight. The truck was not overheating at all, in fact, the pinging was apparent when I hit a small hill 5 minutes after I left my driveway. I'll let you guys know how the next trip goes. A new truck is out of the question, but any suggestion on headers? Thanks again. Dwayne. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:20:43 -0400 From: "Matt Fitzsimmons" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need more power for 300 - ----- Original Message ----- From: Monty Levere To: Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 11:01 AM Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need more power for 300 > I own a 93 regular cab 4x4, I6 300 with a 5 speed, and it is a gutless > wonder. Driving down the highway at 55 mph, and hit a hill and it cannot > maintain that speed. If I pulled the boat (20 foot Bayliner it would suck > up a 1/3 tank of gas in less then 40 miles (18 gal tank). Granted it has > been good to me for 6 years, but I upgraded to a 90 w/7.3 diesel. The > computer and all of the smog stuff took the heart out of the 300. To bad it > was a good motor in its heyday. But I suppose that is why ford discontinued > it in the new trucks. I had the 300 I6 in my '82 F150. At about 200,000 I replaced it with a fuel injected version from an '88 F150. The computerized version is rated at higher torque and much higher horsepower. While my engine was a little tired, the newer one performed much better than the carb version ever did. It got better milage besides. I suspect Ford dropped the engine as it became harder and harder to get it to pass emissions requirements. Matt == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 99 14:29:25 CDT From: Ford Man Subject: Re: [FTE 80-96 - Brakes get Grabby brakes are common for those years of Ford pickups (sorry, I don't = know the remedy). A factory shop manual can be ordered from http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.heminc.= com, a dealer will only refer you to this company as they do not carry shop ma= nuals in their parts inventory. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.amexmail.com/?A=3D1= == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 99 14:42:30 CDT From: Ford Man Subject: Re: [FTE 80-96 - I6 power problems continued...] As has already been suggested, go with a lower geared ring and pinion set= up. This will set you back around $550 parts and labor, next add a better exh= aust system (a Gibson Swept Side Cat Back runs around $269), then add either a= K&N high flow air filter or fuel injection performance kit (around $40 and $2= 25 respectively). Lastly, a performance module such as Hypertech or Superchi= ps will alter your spark curve and mixture to provide you with more power. T= ags on rear ends won't always yield any useful information, so you may have t= o raise the vehicle and put a chalk mark on the driveshaft and turn the whe= els to determine your axle ratio. The later 300 c.i.d. sixes have an excellen= t collector on the exhaust, I'm not sure how much you could improve that ov= er the factory. These are all easy do it yourself projects that someone with= limited mechanical knowledge can handle with a minimum of tools and heart= ache. Good luck. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.amexmail.com/?A=3D1= == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:15:31 -0500 From: Edward Saunders Subject: Re: [FTE 80-96 - Brakes get I tried the link you gave, and hit a deadend. Do you have a different address? Ed Saunders 86 F-150 302 Ford Man wrote: > Grabby brakes are common for those years of Ford pickups (sorry, I don't know > the remedy). A factory shop manual can be ordered from http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.heminc.com, > a dealer will only refer you to this company as they do not carry shop manuals > in their parts inventory. > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 99 16:56:38 CDT From: Ford Man Subject: Re: [Re: [FTE 80-96 - Brakes get] Sorry, I misspelled it. Should be http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.helminc.com Edward Saunders wrote: I tried the link you gave, and hit a deadend. Do you have a different address? Ed Saunders 86 F-150 302 Ford Man wrote: > Grabby brakes are common for those years of Ford pickups (sorry, I don'= t know > the remedy). A factory shop manual can be ordered from http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.heminc.com, > a dealer will only refer you to this company as they do not carry shop manuals > in their parts inventory. > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.amexmail.com/?A=3D= 1 =3D=3D FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.h= tml ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.amexmail.com/?A=3D1= == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:50:23 -0500 From: Edward Saunders Subject: Re: [Re: [FTE 80-96 - Brakes get] Thanks that one works. : ) Ford Man wrote: > Sorry, I misspelled it. Should be http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.helminc.com > Edward Saunders wrote: > I tried the link you gave, and hit a deadend. Do you have a different > address? > Ed Saunders 86 F-150 302 > > Ford Man wrote: > > > Grabby brakes are common for those years of Ford pickups (sorry, I don't > know > > the remedy). A factory shop manual can be ordered from > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.heminc.com, > > a dealer will only refer you to this company as they do not carry shop > manuals > > in their parts inventory. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:34:26 -0500 From: "Baldwin, Dave (CPCP Design)" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Dynamat (again) and road noise. All, I almost hate to bring this subject up again, but my parents are having a little trouble and I need to get some advice. My parents just purchased a new car, and they are unhappy with it because of road noise. Now if they had bought the Town Car (they just won't listen...) they probably wouldn't have this problem. I haven't heard what it's like, but it's driving mom nuts. I remember that some here suggested Dynamat (I think that's right, correct me please if I'm wrong) to quiet "boomy" cabs. Now, this has nothing to do with car audio here, but are there car audio places that have equipment that can pinpoint the panels inside the car that are causing the problem, or is this just a "cut and try"--and maybe not fix--problem? How do you find a reputable shop to take it to, if something like this can be done? Thanks in advance. Dave Baldwin Dallas, TX. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:43:31 -0500 From: "Justen R. Noakes" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Radius Arm Bushing Replacement Folks, The rubber insulator on the driver side radius arm looks as if the covering has been completely chewed away, exposing the white inner material. The radius arm is also not centered in the rear support bracket. I have recently been hearing an unusual rattle and assume the radius arm is "bouncing" around. How difficult is it to replace the rear insulator? 1,2,3,4 or 5 beers (1 being easiest, 5 the most difficult). Do I need to replace the rubber insulator in front of the support bracket (it looks ok)? This seems to be a larger task, according to my Haynes. The cause seems to by my tires rubbing against the radius arm when turning. The truck is a '95 F150 reg cab, 2wd with 31X10.5 BFG A/Ts. I haven't seen this on any tire related emails...any thoughts? Thanks for the advice in advance, Justen jrnoakes '95 F150, 4.9 L, 5 spd '94 Thunderbird, 4.6 L == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:29:44 -0500 From: Jim Cannon Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radius Arm Bushing Replacement I did this on both sides on my truck, and I did the pivot bushings at the same time. I would personally rate it a 3 beer job. There are two options for this: 1. I unbolted each half axel (since I was going to replace the pivot bushings anyway) pulled them out from under the truck and then bolted it back in with new radius arm bushing. 3 hrs to take apart, 3 hours to put back together. 2. Many people on the list propose grinding the rivets off that hold the read bracket to the frame, undo big not, pull bracket and bushing off, slide new one on, tighten up nut and bolt bracket back on to frame with strong (grade 5?) bolts. I think the bolt holes need to be drilled out a bit. Since I did not do this approach, I can not judge the number of beers to do it. Good luck. At 18:43 24/06/99 -0500, you wrote: >Folks, > >The rubber insulator on the driver side radius arm looks >as if the covering has been completely chewed away, >exposing the white inner material. The radius arm is also >not centered in the rear support bracket. I have recently >been hearing an unusual rattle and assume the radius arm >is "bouncing" around. >How difficult is it to replace the rear insulator? 1,2,3,4 or 5 >beers (1 being easiest, 5 the most difficult). >Do I need to replace the rubber insulator in front >of the support bracket (it looks ok)? >This seems to be a larger task, according to my Haynes. >The cause seems to by my tires rubbing against the >radius arm when turning. The truck is a '95 F150 reg >cab, 2wd with 31X10.5 BFG A/Ts. I haven't seen this on any >tire related emails...any thoughts? > >Thanks for the advice in advance, > >Justen > >jrnoakes >'95 F150, 4.9 L, 5 spd >'94 Thunderbird, 4.6 L > > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > Jim Cannon Houston, TX '29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera '80 Ford F-150 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:53:39 EDT From: ROlson1039 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radius Arm Bushing Replacement Justen let me put it to you this way.. i tried to do this job myself and i put it back together and am going to pay someone to complete the job.. I have air tools and i have a nice set of work stands and all but without ability to pull the I beam suspension its a horror and the alternative method to doing the job ( drilling out the rivets and replacing them with bolts on the bracket this arm attaches to) is not any easier im told.. So i will pay someone the two hundred or so to let them have the fun, and i will drink them five beers while they do it Bob 89 F 250 2WD ROlson1039 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:02:10 -0700 From: "Radoje Spasojevic" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing Yup, that's the one, it isn't really a dummy plug, since it closes the circut when it is plugged in, but it looks like one. With it unplugged the computer can no longer advance and retard the timing. Rade - -----Original Message----- From: JSC721 To: 80-96-list Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 11:05 PM Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing >Hey , >What do you mean by disconnecting the SPOUT? Do you mean the dummy plug on >the distributor wire? >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:43:39 -0500 From: Jim Cannon Subject: Re: [FTE 80-96 - I6 power problems continued...] These are all fundamentally good ideas to chase on an engine that is running properly, that you just want to add a little more OOOMPH! to. From the sound of the original post, I do not think the engine is running right and I think throwing this stuff at it will fix it. It might make it worse. I think he needs to sort out the problem, then start adding the "go faster" stuff. I wish I knew what to tell him was wrong with the engine. We've suggested all of the obvious things. Sometimes a malfunctioning EGR will give excessive ping -- I have not seen that one yet. If the base timing is correct, then the engine computer might be messed up. That's an expensive trial-and-error proposition. Dealer should be able to test it(?). One of the sensors on the tuck might be going bad, but not so far gone as to trigger a code on the computer. A good mechanic can help find them (one who can diagnose things based on symptoms and observation, not just to pull codes). A basic compression test should answer the question about excessive carbon build-up causing the pinging. I'd check that before I went through the work to pull the head. At 14:42 24/06/99 CDT, you wrote: >As has already been suggested, go with a lower geared ring and pinion setup. >This will set you back around $550 parts and labor, next add a better exhaust >system (a Gibson Swept Side Cat Back runs around $269), then add either a K&N >high flow air filter or fuel injection performance kit (around $40 and $225 >respectively). Lastly, a performance module such as Hypertech or Superchips >will alter your spark curve and mixture to provide you with more power. Tags >on rear ends won't always yield any useful information, so you may have to >raise the vehicle and put a chalk mark on the driveshaft and turn the wheels >to determine your axle ratio. The later 300 c.i.d. sixes have an excellent >collector on the exhaust, I'm not sure how much you could improve that over >the factory. These are all easy do it yourself projects that someone with >limited mechanical knowledge can handle with a minimum of tools and heartache. >Good luck. > > >____________________________________________________________________ >Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 >FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > Jim Cannon Houston, TX '29 Ford Model A Phaeton '63 Buick Riviera '80 Ford F-150 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:56:52 EDT From: Lwskywalk Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: 85 or 78 F-150 well hope your printer has ink and you purse is big. gear ratio is one thing the lower the gear the less rpms you run at so the less gas you suck. pullies increased my mileage. headers(hookers), flowmasters, jet chip(superchip), k&n conical filter charger will increase mileage too, msd ingnition boxes makes truck burn gas more efficiently, timing bump run 12 degrees and up if possible without the cling clang noise, with all that except the conical air filter and the chip i am gettin 500 miles to two tanks in my 94 f150 302 standard cab short bed. so go figure == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:47:40 -0500 From: "DannyF" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Need more power for 300 > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:25:17 +0000 > From: summitds > Subject: FTE 80-96 - Need more power for 300 A fairly common question. Beyond what another poster mentioned(the K&N/headers) your entering a slim market for bolt- ons. Clifford Performance specializes in the 300 but at hellacious prices($600 headers, $400-600 TBs,etc.). Heres what I've learned through hours of inquiry: Headers: you might find some coated ones for $350-450 but then you need a 3" min. pipe out back w/a decent low restriction muffler...another $200-300? Not all muffler shops are set up for 3" and will charge you plenty for this "custom" job. Most headers are not designed to really flow until mid-range and the 300 is not a high rpm engine. Plus, most truck owners want the power at a lower rpm. A crossover pipe installed during installation will help bring the torque curve into a lower rpm however. Another $50-100 for this "custom" addition. The K&N Air Filter: most owners don't get the advertised increases that K&N purports but it helps a little. Theres quite an arguement over the K&N(unless your selling them!) that it definetly flows more air but at the expense of passing more particulates. One anal 'ol timer reports that he has an oil analysis done every year on his vehicle and after the addition of the K&N, gets results showing a substantial increased amount of "silica particulates" in his tests. So its a tradeoff if you believe any of it. Computer chips: Clifford sells them...$$$. Buyer beware in this category as many truck/car owners are disapointed in them whatever the brand. Cams: Clifford offers at least 1. Competition Cams has an RV hyd. for $136+shipping thats supposed to be better for low-end torque over the stock one. Compatible w/the computer, good idle, etc. Welcome to any other options, opinions anyone can add. > I've got a '94 F150 with a 300, and I'm towing a travel trailer. The > power loss going uphill is phenomenal, even though the trailer is > lightweight (3800 lbs. dry). It really starts pinging, and I'm > wondering if there is a problem, or if I just need to modify the > engine to gain some more torque. > I'm no motorhead by any stretch of the imagination, so any help would > be appreciated. > > Thanks, Dwayne > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > ------------------------------ Danny danf01 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:02:00 -0700 From: "Radoje Spasojevic" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radius Arm Bushing Replacement I did Option 2 on my 4WD '90 Bronco, as dropping the front axle halves on a 4WD is a little more difficult than on a 2WD. I would only recommend this method if you have ALOT of patience, some good drill bits, and an air chisel. It took me about 10 hours over two days to get the job done. Of course the big advantage of replacing the rivets with bolts is that I was able to remove the bushings and insert the washer I had left out in about a half hour once I had finished. Another consideration on 4WD trucks (and 2WD's if you are into the prerunner thing) is that replacing the rivets with bolts now will make adding a lift that much easier when the time comes. Rade - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Cannon To: 80-96-list Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 5:39 PM Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radius Arm Bushing Replacement >I did this on both sides on my truck, and I did the pivot bushings at the >same time. I would personally rate it a 3 beer job. > >There are two options for this: > >1. I unbolted each half axel (since I was going to replace the pivot >bushings anyway) pulled them out from under the truck and then bolted it >back in with new radius arm bushing. 3 hrs to take apart, 3 hours to put >back together. > >2. Many people on the list propose grinding the rivets off that hold the >read bracket to the frame, undo big not, pull bracket and bushing off, >slide new one on, tighten up nut and bolt bracket back on to frame with >strong (grade 5?) bolts. I think the bolt holes need to be drilled out a >bit. Since I did not do this approach, I can not judge the number of beers >to do it. > >Good luck. > >At 18:43 24/06/99 -0500, you wrote: >>Folks, >> >>The rubber insulator on the driver side radius arm looks >>as if the covering has been completely chewed away, >>exposing the white inner material. The radius arm is also >>not centered in the rear support bracket. I have recently >>been hearing an unusual rattle and assume the radius arm >>is "bouncing" around. >>How difficult is it to replace the rear insulator? 1,2,3,4 or 5 >>beers (1 being easiest, 5 the most difficult). >>Do I need to replace the rubber insulator in front >>of the support bracket (it looks ok)? >>This seems to be a larger task, according to my Haynes. >>The cause seems to by my tires rubbing against the >>radius arm when turning. The truck is a '95 F150 reg >>cab, 2wd with 31X10.5 BFG A/Ts. I haven't seen this on any >>tire related emails...any thoughts? >> >>Thanks for the advice in advance, >> >>Justen >> >>jrnoakes >>'95 F150, 4.9 L, 5 spd >>'94 Thunderbird, 4.6 L >> >> >> >>== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> >Jim Cannon >Houston, TX >'29 Ford Model A Phaeton >'63 Buick Riviera >'80 Ford F-150 >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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