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80-96-list-digest Tuesday, June 22 1999 Volume 03 : Number 174



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Bent push rods (was Bolt stuck in shock absorber bushing
Re: FTE 80-96 - Door Chime Wont Stop
FTE 80-96 - '90 F-150 startup speed
Re: FTE 80-96 - '90 F-150 startup speed
FTE 80-96 - Bent dip stick
Re: FTE 80-96 - Biggest Tires for my stock '94 F150 4X4??
Re: FTE 80-96 - input shaft bearing
Re: FTE 80-96 - '90 F-150 startup speed
Re: FTE 80-96 - '90 F-150 startup speed
Re: FTE 80-96 -tire air pressure ????
Re: FTE 80-96 - Biggest Tires for my stock '94 F150 4X4??
FTE 80-96 - User Poll. BFG M/T's Vs. A/T's?? Sheldon goes cruisin'...
Re: FTE 80-96 - liftn my truck

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 06:13:39 -0400
From: Mike Sloane
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bent push rods (was Bolt stuck in shock absorber bushing

Bent push rods usually mean that the rockers weren't rocking for some
reason (like bent valve stems or the rockers seized on the shaft, for
instance). OR the rods were pushing on something other than the little
cups on the ends of the rockers. This would be the case if you have
hydraulic lifters and they collapsed, allowing the rods to wander around
and bang into other things. Either way, you should do some serious
investigation before you replace the rods. This is not a trivial
problem.

I have never replaced Ford rods, but if you cannot get them anywhere
else, you Ford dealer should have them.

Mike

Matthew Banevich wrote:
>
> I was just wondering how a pushrod could get bent about 30 degrees....
>
> my friend has a 302/352/360/390...... took the valve covers off and on
> the left side of the truck, (pistons 5678) numbers 5 and 7 have bent
> pushrods.... the firing order is 1,5,4,2,6,3,7,8 from what I can tell,
> and I was wondering if maybe the two were switched ( 5 and 7 that
> is)????
>
> Any advise, as to fix it ( hopefully just replace the pushrods ) and
> where to find the parts???
>
> Thankz!
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:18:19 -0400
From: Mike Johnson
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Door Chime Wont Stop

I think the switch in the Rangers are on the latch side of the door. It may
be built into the latch. I can't remember for sure.
Mike

>From: Blake Malkamaki
>Reply-To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Door Chime Wont Stop
>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:59:34 -0500
>
> > Gentlemen....before I take my 95 Ranger into the woods and put
> >it out of it's (my) misery could anyone advise on a door open chime that
> >won't quit. The interior lite also stays on. I have a panel indicator
> >showing that the driver's side door is open however I can not find the
> >relevant push switch in the door frame !!! It is so congested under the
> >panel that I am also unable to locate the chime itself.
> > I would think that the door switch is defective however I am
> >unable to fix it unless I can find it....... can anyone advise
> >please......Allen Baldwin

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:35:38 -0500
From: "DannyF"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '90 F-150 startup speed

From: Self
To:
Subject: Re: '90 F-150 startup speed
Date sent: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:08:03 -0500

90 F-150, 75K mi, 300-6 2WD E4OD trans...

Used to start up everytime at ~1500 rpms and then settle down
after 20-30 secs and I know this is normal. But lately its beginning
to start up running rough and sometimes it pulls out of it on its own
and sometimes it dies. Always restarts fine the 2nd time.

Seems like something is out of adjustment or dirty. Its not a
cranking problem, its the startup speed I'm trying to recover.

TB cleanout? IAC cleanout? TPS bad/need of adjustment?
Maybe just a plain tuneup?

Anyone run into this one?

Thanks,
Danny

Danny
danf01 worldnet.att.net

Danny
danf01 worldnet.att.net
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:19:11 -0700
From: Mark Ponsford
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '90 F-150 startup speed

My truck used to do this. On start, it would rev up and then fall back down
to a stall. Problem turned out to be the manifold air presure sensor.

>From: Self
>To:
>Subject: Re: '90 F-150 startup speed
>Date sent: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:08:03 -0500
>
>90 F-150, 75K mi, 300-6 2WD E4OD trans...
>
>Used to start up everytime at ~1500 rpms and then settle down
>after 20-30 secs and I know this is normal. But lately its beginning
>to start up running rough and sometimes it pulls out of it on its own
>and sometimes it dies. Always restarts fine the 2nd time.
>
>Seems like something is out of adjustment or dirty. Its not a
>cranking problem, its the startup speed I'm trying to recover.
>
>TB cleanout? IAC cleanout? TPS bad/need of adjustment?
>Maybe just a plain tuneup?
>
>Anyone run into this one?
>
>Thanks,
>Danny
>


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:13:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: DBblueboy webtv.net (Jerome Kelly)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bent dip stick

My Chilton does not tell me how to change the oil check tube. Some
people tell me that I only have one
shot at removing it. That it could
break off at the oil pan and extensive
work will have to be done. Can any
one set me straight on the proceedure?




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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:19:16 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Biggest Tires for my stock '94 F150 4X4??

My 88 F-150 with no lift came with 32x11.5 on 7" rims and they work just
fine even with running boards. But one of the rears is on an 8" rim and
when I tried putting it on the front it hit the running board on a turn.

I just bought a new set of 7" rims and 33x9.5 tires and they fit just fine.
I was a little worried and tried the front ones first, but they fit great
and look great. I got Kelly-Springfield MSR radials and they have a nice
aggressive tread and are quiet. They ride nice too.

I am sure they will be great in snow. My 32x11.5 were the Wild Country's
and they were great in snow too, but very noisy.

My 77 Bronco has 35x12.5s and they are wonderful in snow and for plowing.
They will actually ride in deep snow and just sink in 12". They are General
Grabber APs. I recommend them too.

Blake

>I have a 1994 F150 SC/SB 4X4 with factory 235/75R15 tires on factory 7.5
>inch aluminum rims. I want to put the tallest tires possible without
>lifting the truck. I know 31X10.5's will fit as 265/75R15's were a
>factory option and are about the same specs. I know that 32X11.5's will
>fit (with a bit of rubbing on hard U-turns), but my concern is how they
>will perform in snow due to their width, and the implications of
>mounting them on 7.5" rims (I was told that 8" is the minimum and a 7.5"
>rim will cause the tread footprint to only grab in the center (??)). I
>do most of my serious off roading during hunting season which usually
>means some pretty sloppy deep snow, and a lot of my daily driving is
>highway and that means icy roads in winter. I do a lot of backroads
>coyote and fox hunting all winter, and that means very deep snow on
>unmaintained and snow drifted mile roads. I am willing to sacrifice a
>bit of highway performance to get peak snow performance on back roads.
>I don't care about sand and rocks much, and although mud is of some
>concern, snow is most important. I rarely see anything written about
>deep snow or ice in relation to tire choices, and am not sure what to
>get in tread designs: M/T's or A/T's. I have been told that M/T's are
>awesome in deep snow but aweful on icy roads, and others have told me
>wide tires suck even in deep snow let alone on ice, so what should I
>do?? I want looks, which means big, but I also want traction in snow.
>What should I get? Do you think 33X9.5's would fit in my wheel wells
>without a lift. Oh yeah, I have a 302, and a speedo shop told me I can
>have the speedo computer-synched to match the tires for about $75 and
>this will give me back most of the performance I would lose - is this
>true? Ideally, I wish I could get a 32X10.5 or less desirable but
>workable, a 32X9.5-15 tire in either an agressive All Terrain or M/T. I
>really like BFG's, and sure wish they made a 32" tire that would fit my
>7.5 rims and work well at cutting through deep snow and on ice. Any
>suggestions on size or make of tire??
>
>Sheldon Charron,
>Manitoba, Canada
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:03:41 CDT
From: Robert Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - input shaft bearing

I am looking at the Ford F-Series factory shop manual pages 07-03A-10 and
07-03A-11 for the 1992 model year pickups. This is the section on Mazda 5
speeds as used in full sized pickups; yes, the input shaft bearing is a
press fit.


>From: "billyn'dem"
>Reply-To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - input shaft bearing
>Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:49:04 -0500
>
>does anyone know if the input shaft bearing on the 5 sp mazda trans in
>an explorer ('92) is pressed in? i can't find any snap rings on it. i
>realize this is kinda off topic but my wife has an f-150 and she sends
>her regards. thanks, bg
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:09:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jo blow
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '90 F-150 startup speed

Got a question about the startup speedwhen its cold it will rev up and
go down to a smooth idle. Its done that since it was new, is it
supposed to? It never has gave me any problems before, and it never
does that when its warm

- --- Mark Ponsford wrote:
> My truck used to do this. On start, it would rev up
> and then fall back down
> to a stall. Problem turned out to be the manifold
> air presure sensor.
>
> >From: Self
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: '90 F-150 startup speed
> >Date sent: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:08:03 -0500
> >
> >90 F-150, 75K mi, 300-6 2WD E4OD trans...
> >
> >Used to start up everytime at ~1500 rpms and then
> settle down
> >after 20-30 secs and I know this is normal. But
> lately its beginning
> >to start up running rough and sometimes it pulls
> out of it on its own
> >and sometimes it dies. Always restarts fine the 2nd
> time.
> >
> >Seems like something is out of adjustment or dirty.
> Its not a
> >cranking problem, its the startup speed I'm trying
> to recover.
> >
> >TB cleanout? IAC cleanout? TPS bad/need of
> adjustment?
> >Maybe just a plain tuneup?
> >
> >Anyone run into this one?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Danny
> >
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:26:38 -0500
From: Edward Saunders
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '90 F-150 startup speed

Yeah, actually I think it goes through that cycle 3 times, and then goes to
a normal idle.
Ed Saunders
86 F-150 302

Jo blow wrote:

> Got a question about the startup speedwhen its cold it will rev up and
> go down to a smooth idle. Its done that since it was new, is it
> supposed to? It never has gave me any problems before, and it never
> does that when its warm
>
> --- Mark Ponsford wrote:
> > My truck used to do this. On start, it would rev up
> > and then fall back down
> > to a stall. Problem turned out to be the manifold
> > air presure sensor.
> >
> > >From: Self
> > >To:
> > >Subject: Re: '90 F-150 startup speed
> > >Date sent: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:08:03 -0500
> > >
> > >90 F-150, 75K mi, 300-6 2WD E4OD trans...
> > >
> > >Used to start up everytime at ~1500 rpms and then
> > settle down
> > >after 20-30 secs and I know this is normal. But
> > lately its beginning
> > >to start up running rough and sometimes it pulls
> > out of it on its own
> > >and sometimes it dies. Always restarts fine the 2nd
> > time.
> > >
> > >Seems like something is out of adjustment or dirty.
> > Its not a
> > >cranking problem, its the startup speed I'm trying
> > to recover.
> > >
> > >TB cleanout? IAC cleanout? TPS bad/need of
> > adjustment?
> > >Maybe just a plain tuneup?
> > >
> > >Anyone run into this one?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Danny
> > >
> >
> >
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:10:26 EDT
From: Mobilepdr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 -tire air pressure ????

i have a lil question about air pressure...psi.. I have the 96
explorer with all new wranglers a/t with the aqua channels built in i love
the tire nice looking great riding very quiet and excellent in the snow and
rain very very impressed with the purchase..I would recommend them to anyone
off roader or just daily driver .....My question is like all tires it has a
max psi stamped on the sidewall...Does this mean this is the recommended air
pressure or just the maxium you can go before you start to have uneven
wear..I would like to keep the truck at a good pressure close to the max to
keep it at its hardest and best gas mileage...But i don't want to have uneven
wear.. I do drop the pressure when i have a few people in the truck and i go
into the bumpy city or want a lil more comfortable ride.....What should i do
keep this lil increase for mpg and decrease for ride comfort on certain
occasions....Is it better to max it out for long rides for better
mpg.........just curios..............also i';ve heard to max out the psi for
towing heavy loads actually i've heard to go 4psi over the max for some
reason is this bull or is it recommended.................ding
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:04:12 -0700
From: redmist mb.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Biggest Tires for my stock '94 F150 4X4??

Blake Malkamaki wrote:
>
> My 88 F-150 with no lift came with 32x11.5 on 7" rims and they work just
> fine even with running boards. But one of the rears is on an 8" rim and
> when I tried putting it on the front it hit the running board on a turn.

Did you notice any problems with balding the center of the tread out?
What brand were they? Do you drive it on the highway a lot? BFG said
they were dangerous as the could slip off the bead or something on
anything narrower than 8" and they recommend even wider. I can't
understand this since the new BFG All Terrain T/A KO's come with a huge
bead guard/rim protector that lips over the edge of the rim and also
makes the tire way thicker there. Common sense told me that .5" (1/4"
on each side) couldn't hurt much. Maybe they have some kind of
insurance problem or something and can't say it's "okay".

I don't have any running boards or mud flaps right now and plan to
install the lund fiberglass step rail that uses a thin strip along the
bottom edge of the rocker panel (??) and then flares out to provide a
small step to hop in, then goes thin again to the rear of the cab.
These won't interfere with tires at all. I may even put on some of
those chromed steel "Hoops" that can be removed when doing serious
off-roading.

> I just bought a new set of 7" rims and 33x9.5 tires and they fit just fine.

BFG makes a new 33X10.5 in the A/T KO and this looks interesting.

> I was a little worried and tried the front ones first, but they fit great
> and look great. I got Kelly-Springfield MSR radials and they have a nice
> aggressive tread and are quiet. They ride nice too.

I talked to a shop today that told me they will mount a 33X9.5 and
install it on my truck front and then rear to check for clearance at no
cost!! I was amazed. That's pretty nice of them to do. They assure me
they will fit. The tire they recommended?? Kelly-Springfield Trailmark
M/S Radials. Is that the same tire? He said they are awesome. Not
something I have seen around much, and don't know the tread, but I'll
check them out. They certainly are cheaper - about $40CDN cheaper - and
come with a road hazard, mileage and workmanship warranty. Price is not
the first factor for me though.

> I am sure they will be great in snow. My 32x11.5 were the Wild Country's
> and they were great in snow too, but very noisy.

I'm not concerned as much about noise as about getting the max
performance off road when I need it, provided they still will keep me
out of the ditch when winter driving on the highway.

> My 77 Bronco has 35x12.5s and they are wonderful in snow and for plowing.
> They will actually ride in deep snow and just sink in 12". They are General
> Grabber APs. I recommend them too.

I have heard of a few guys who swear by them but I know one guy who has
some in the 235 range and he has had lots of chunks come out his
sidewalls. He is not happy with his. I guess there are bad ones in
every batch. Apparently it's from sliding in and out of hard ruts which
cut them up bad.

I personally had never heard of them untill I started looking at getting
new tires. This is the first time I have shopped for new truck tires.
I have bought many sets for cars and mini-vans, but I always seemed to
either write-off or sell my trucks before the tires that came with them
wore out.

Thanks for the comments...Shel


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:23:27 -0700
From: redmist mb.sympatico.ca
Subject: FTE 80-96 - User Poll. BFG M/T's Vs. A/T's?? Sheldon goes cruisin'...

I decided to do some research today. I stopped every guy I saw with BFG
All Terrains and Mud Terrains and asked them how they like them. I also
stopped and checked every tire I noticed on parked trucks for size, etc.

It was amazing how many people actually talked to me in a civil way once
they realized I wasn't trying to car-jack them, run them off the road or
kill them.

All of them liked their tires, except for one guy who got stuck with his
All Terrains. He installed M/T's instead and now says he will never go
back to All Terrain tires ever again.

I had a real interesting conversation with a guy with a newer Dodge at a
railway crossing (long train) who named several different brands of
tires he has owned over the last few years. His two favorites so far??
The BFG A/T's and M/T's. He had M/T's on his truck and said he loved
them and that they weren't even that noisy compared to a lot of others
he has tried. He too said now that he has tried the M/T's, he won't go
back and is on his second set. He says they are great in snow, and
although they aren't great on straight ice, says that they will still
keep you out of the ditch on the highways. I believe his words were,
"If you can't stay on the highway with these tires and 4WD, you're an
idiot, and shouldn't be driving anyway." Like many others he said if
you rarely go off-road the A/T's are better on the highway and a good
compromise.

Nice to actually talk to guys who live in the same climate as me, and
actually get off the higway, hunt, etc. It was a real enteraining day.
Somehow I didn't get much work done. Wonder how that happened? ....


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