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80-96-list-digest Monday, June 21 1999 Volume 03 : Number 173



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - Woo-hoo!!! It WAS the TFI module
FTE 80-96 - Re: 1999 Lightning
FTE 80-96 - input shaft bearing
FTE 80-96 - AMP Meter and Oil Pressure Gauge
FTE 80-96 - horsepower
Re: FTE 80-96 - AMP Meter and Oil Pressure Gauge
Re: FTE 80-96 - Early '90's design flaws
Re: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing
Re: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1999 Lightning
Re: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing
Re: FTE 80-96 - horsepower
FTE 80-96 - liftn my truck
Re: FTE 80-96 - liftn my truck
Re: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing
FTE 80-96 - Biggest Tires for my stock '94 F150 4X4??
Re: FTE 80-96 - Bolt stuck in shock absorber bushing

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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:28:59 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Woo-hoo!!! It WAS the TFI module

Niehoff has been on the New York City market for years.. When i used to work
for a Taxi company like 15 years ago as a mechanic we used Neihoff ignition
parts then cause they were cheap and they stood up to the abuses. Ive used
them in my own truck and previous cars, and with the exception of one or two
parts ive had them all work out well for me. The off brand parts that seem to
give me a headache are the Kem ones. It took me five tries to get a working
electronic ignition module for a 1986 Olds Ciera once..
As for the JB Weld stuff one of my mechanic friends used some of that to
patch a leaky transmission case on a 1988 Honda and it held for eight months
, so its sure worth a gamble to try it on your manifold. Let me know how ya
make out with it.. LOL the 71 Cadillac that my buddy and i are restoring has
a crack in the manifold, and if it works I might try it til i get a new set
of manifolds
Bob
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:03:49 EDT
From: JDavis1277 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1999 Lightning

Saw the first one in my area a couple of days ago at the local Ford
dealership. It's owned by the service manager. It's black, which is an
awful color to keep beautiful and is way too hot for the Gulf Coast area, but
the owner says he's not complaining because he feels damn lucky to have found
one.

It's a very nicely tricked out truck. But for me the high point is the
engine. A 5.4 Triton DOHC engine with an Eaton supercharger. Wow!! In
naturally aspirated form, this engine makes, what, 260 very conservative HP?
With the supercharger it's gotta be making over 340 honest HP (just my HO).

Now, if I could just hit the lottery I'd get one in white along with a new
Super Duty PSD Super cab.

Dream on!!

Butch
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:49:04 -0500
From: "billyn'dem"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - input shaft bearing

does anyone know if the input shaft bearing on the 5 sp mazda trans in
an explorer ('92) is pressed in? i can't find any snap rings on it. i
realize this is kinda off topic but my wife has an f-150 and she sends
her regards. thanks, bg
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:02:14 -0400
From: Darrell and Evelyn Fann
Subject: FTE 80-96 - AMP Meter and Oil Pressure Gauge

I want to start with saying thank you for all the useful information you
all provide. I'm pretty new to the list and it's nice to know a lot of the
fixes I've had to do is pretty common. Now I have a question for you all
that store information better than I do.

I recently painted my 90 F150 XLT and when installing the interior panels
accidentally shorted out the dome light. After replacing the fuse, now the
Amp meter reads nothing (just flicks when I first start up) and Oil
pressure gauge reads low. The charging system is fine and the oil level is
full.

A couple of weeks ago (possibly last week) I remember someone saying
something about a ?voltage regulator? that controls the gauges. Does
anyone still have the posting?.......Guess I need to start filing them
away....

Thanks,
Darrell

90 F150 XLT 4X4
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:04:32 EDT
From: DENKC5 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - horsepower

I have a 351M in my old 79' F150 and a 351 Windsor in my 95' F250. I realize
the gearing, both tranny and rear are different. Also aware of difference
between carb and fuelly. What I'd like to know is the net horsepower of each
engine.

Thanks,
DJ
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:32:00 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - AMP Meter and Oil Pressure Gauge

The instrument voltage regulator (IVR) controls readings on fuel guage, oil
pressure guage and temperature guage. It does not affect the ammeter in any
way. If your fuel and temp readings seem to be ok then I doubt it is the
IVR. It could be the entire printed circuit on the back of the instrument
cluster. Hard to say. Shorting dome light should not fry it, though (IMHO).

You say ammeter just flicks when you start it. What if you put headlights
on with engine not running? Does it indicate good discharge? Sometimes it
wil not show much of a charge indicator unless battery was run down before
starting engine. My ammeter almost never indicates anything positive or
negative.

It could just be a huge coincidence and you just need a new oil pressure
sender.


At 17:02 20/06/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I want to start with saying thank you for all the useful information you
>all provide. I'm pretty new to the list and it's nice to know a lot of the
>fixes I've had to do is pretty common. Now I have a question for you all
>that store information better than I do.
>
>I recently painted my 90 F150 XLT and when installing the interior panels
>accidentally shorted out the dome light. After replacing the fuse, now the
>Amp meter reads nothing (just flicks when I first start up) and Oil
>pressure gauge reads low. The charging system is fine and the oil level is
>full.
>
>A couple of weeks ago (possibly last week) I remember someone saying
>something about a ?voltage regulator? that controls the gauges. Does
>anyone still have the posting?.......Guess I need to start filing them
>away....
>
>Thanks,
>Darrell
>
>90 F150 XLT 4X4
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Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton
'63 Buick Riviera
'80 Ford F-150
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:04:38 -0400
From: "Troy"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Early '90's design flaws

On 18 Jun 99, at 5:00, bg wrote:

>my wife has a '91 f-150 300ci 5sp. it has 205,000 miles on it, mostly
>pulling a horse/trailer. i've put in 2 clutches, clutch slave, a water pump,
>an alternator, brakes (x3), axle seals, an ignition module (and i think it
>was only a bad connection but i couldn't take it back) and thats been it for
>repairs. of course the paint has looked like hammered sh*t since it was
>about 2 years old.

Those repairs are pretty understandable. I have heard my share of
horror stories about the newer Fords, and I have heard a few people
such as yourself mention the good luck they have had with the
newer style pickups.

Who knows. The paint though, I think if there was a flaw in it, the
Ford Motor Co. did repaint some vehicles for free. You might want
to check into it and see if they would take care of your truck or not.

You might be a redneck if... Your truck has ever been the scene of
a crime. - Jeff Foxworthy


Troy Williams
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:12:50 -0600
From: "CalvinB"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing

I have an 87 f150 with a 300 straight six. I have my timing at 12 and do
have a cooler thermostat. Things seem to be running fine. Good pickup (3
spd w/od - manual) and mileage of 18-20 mpg (Canadian gallons) on the
highway.


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From: Baldwin, Dave (CPCP Design)
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 2:09 PM
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Radoje Spasojevic [mailto:rspasoje gte.net]
>>
>> First of all my base timing should be 10 dgrees
>> BTDC right?
>
>Right.
>
>> I remember reading in some performance mag. that a common trick
>> among the 5.0 EFI mustang crowd is to "bump" the base timing to
>> gain a little power. I forgot if the base timing was advanced
>> or retarded and how much.
>
>I've heard of people advancing 2 to 4 degrees from stock, so 12 to
>14 degrees initial advance. Of course they might be running a higher
>octane fuel, and perhaps a cooler thermostat. It doesn't hurt to
>play with it, to see how far you can go on whatever gas you want to
>run.
>
>Let us know what timing / thermostat / fuel octane combination you
>end up with.
>
>Dave Baldwin
>Dallas, TX.
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:14:38 -0600
From: "CalvinB"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing

I have an 87 f150 with a 300 straight six. I have my timing at 12 and do
have a cooler thermostat. Things seem to be running fine. Good pickup (3
spd w/od - manual) and mileage of 18-20 mpg (Canadian gallons) on the
highway.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Baldwin, Dave (CPCP Design)
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 2:09 PM
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Radoje Spasojevic [mailto:rspasoje gte.net]
>>
>> First of all my base timing should be 10 dgrees
>> BTDC right?
>
>Right.
>
>> I remember reading in some performance mag. that a common trick
>> among the 5.0 EFI mustang crowd is to "bump" the base timing to
>> gain a little power. I forgot if the base timing was advanced
>> or retarded and how much.
>
>I've heard of people advancing 2 to 4 degrees from stock, so 12 to
>14 degrees initial advance. Of course they might be running a higher
>octane fuel, and perhaps a cooler thermostat. It doesn't hurt to
>play with it, to see how far you can go on whatever gas you want to
>run.
>
>Let us know what timing / thermostat / fuel octane combination you
>end up with.
>
>Dave Baldwin
>Dallas, TX.
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:43:07 EDT
From: Flare8392 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1999 Lightning

Actually, the Lightining makes 360 HP. Which isnt that impressive for having
a supercharger. But it still is an awesome truck and i could only dream of
owning one.

TJ linebaugh
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:12:30 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing

Are you sure that the computer won't set the timing wherever it wants no
matter where the base timing is set? Just because the base is set at 12
does not mean the engine will run 2 degrees more at every point.

Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:10:25 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - horsepower

>I have a 351M in my old 79' F150 and a 351 Windsor in my 95' F250. I realize
>the gearing, both tranny and rear are different. Also aware of difference
>between carb and fuelly. What I'd like to know is the net horsepower of each
>engine.
>

I don't have the figures here, but I hate those 351M's. Terrible milage and
gutless. I have never owned a 351W, so I can't compare.

I do have a 1977 F-350 that had a 351M. When I rebuilt it, I made it into a
400 and it made an incredible difference in power and increased the milage
from 6 to 8 mpg. The only difference between the 351M and the 400 is the
crank and the pistons.


Blake
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:20:44 PDT
From: austin courtright
Subject: FTE 80-96 - liftn my truck

ok
i have a 87 f250 truck.
i was just wondering
if it would look right if a 2wd truck was lifted like 4 or so inches..
nothing to big....i just always wanted my truck lifted but i never thought i
would be able to do it with 2wd.
if there are any suggestions pleze let me know
thanks
austin


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:45:19 EDT
From: CRGREENE1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - liftn my truck

Hey Austin! I too was in the same boat you're now in! I have a '92 F250
2WD, and had it lifted 3" a couple of yrs ago. It was only a body lift but
w/ the major price difference, I thought this was the best way to go since I
also liked the look of it lifted plus it also helped out by putting on 33''
BFG's Mud Terrains! I am very happy I did this...many people I come across
can't believe its not a 4WD because it looks just like one!

Hope this helps persuade ya!

Chris
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:09:33 -0700
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing

As far as I know the EEC doesn't know the exact timing of the engine. It
only advances and retards the timing "X" amount from the base. This is why
you disconnect the SPOUT to set the base timing, to keep the computer from
adjusting the timing to keep a good idle.

Rade
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From: Blake Malkamaki
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, June 20, 1999 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Resetting timing--"bump" timing


>Are you sure that the computer won't set the timing wherever it wants no
>matter where the base timing is set? Just because the base is set at 12
>does not mean the engine will run 2 degrees more at every point.
>
>Blake
>Little Mountain
>Concord, Ohio
>Early Oil Well Historian
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:37:20 -0700
From: redmist mb.sympatico.ca
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Biggest Tires for my stock '94 F150 4X4??

I have a 1994 F150 SC/SB 4X4 with factory 235/75R15 tires on factory 7.5
inch aluminum rims. I want to put the tallest tires possible without
lifting the truck. I know 31X10.5's will fit as 265/75R15's were a
factory option and are about the same specs. I know that 32X11.5's will
fit (with a bit of rubbing on hard U-turns), but my concern is how they
will perform in snow due to their width, and the implications of
mounting them on 7.5" rims (I was told that 8" is the minimum and a 7.5"
rim will cause the tread footprint to only grab in the center (??)). I
do most of my serious off roading during hunting season which usually
means some pretty sloppy deep snow, and a lot of my daily driving is
highway and that means icy roads in winter. I do a lot of backroads
coyote and fox hunting all winter, and that means very deep snow on
unmaintained and snow drifted mile roads. I am willing to sacrifice a
bit of highway performance to get peak snow performance on back roads.
I don't care about sand and rocks much, and although mud is of some
concern, snow is most important. I rarely see anything written about
deep snow or ice in relation to tire choices, and am not sure what to
get in tread designs: M/T's or A/T's. I have been told that M/T's are
awesome in deep snow but aweful on icy roads, and others have told me
wide tires suck even in deep snow let alone on ice, so what should I
do?? I want looks, which means big, but I also want traction in snow.
What should I get? Do you think 33X9.5's would fit in my wheel wells
without a lift. Oh yeah, I have a 302, and a speedo shop told me I can
have the speedo computer-synched to match the tires for about $75 and
this will give me back most of the performance I would lose - is this
true? Ideally, I wish I could get a 32X10.5 or less desirable but
workable, a 32X9.5-15 tire in either an agressive All Terrain or M/T. I
really like BFG's, and sure wish they made a 32" tire that would fit my
7.5 rims and work well at cutting through deep snow and on ice. Any
suggestions on size or make of tire??

Sheldon Charron,
Manitoba, Canada

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 02:01:30 -0500
From: Matthew Banevich
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Bolt stuck in shock absorber bushing

I was just wondering how a pushrod could get bent about 30 degrees........


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