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80-96-list-digest Wednesday, April 7 1999 Volume 03 : Number 097 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980-1996 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: RE: FTE 80-96 - Those Radius Arm Bushings...How Hard to change??? RE: FTE 80-96 - RE: High Altitude Carb Problem Re: FTE 80-96 - Those Radius Arm Bushings...How Hard to change??? Re: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle FTE 80-96 - Changing radius arm bushings RE: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: High Altitude Carb Problem RE: FTE 80-96 - Brake Line Replacement FTE 80-96 - Re: Rough Idle Re: FTE 80-96 - Changing radius arm bushings Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Rough Idle RE: FTE 80-96 - Those Radius Arm Bushings...How Hard to change??? RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Rough Idle FTE 80-96 - Electric fuel pumps FTE 80-96 - boiling fuel Re: FTE 80-96 - Changing radius arm bushings FTE 80-96 - Peelin' paint on 86er Re: FTE 80-96 - Peelin' paint on 86er Re: FTE 80-96 - Peelin' paint on 86er FTE 80-96 - 82 ford F150 302 need help Re: FTE 80-96 - 82 ford F150 302 need help FTE 80-96 - RE: Need firing order 1982 Ford F150 5.0 Re: FTE 80-96 - Changing radius arm bushings RE: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle Re: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 06:57:49 -0500 From: "Chuck" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Those Radius Arm Bushings...How Hard to change??? I have to do this myself too, but what is a porta-power? o break the brake hose you should have JUST ENOUGH travel > to remove > the arm downward remove the rubber& washer reinstall new stuff. > guide the arm > and release the porta-power . should take about 1/2 hour per side > GOOD LUCK > PHIL > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:05:52 -0600 From: "Giddens, Scott" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - RE: High Altitude Carb Problem When I drive the carb equipped '76 Bronco here in the Denver area and have to drive it into the mountains, going from about 5,000 feet to 11,000+ feet, I have to stop somewhere near the top and advance the timing. Sometimes I have to stop about every few thousand feet if I am pulling something. I also carry a bottle of octane booster for when I drive it at high altitudes. Thanks to EFI on my '95 F-150 5.8L I don't have to deal with it. One time I was in Vail and the timing was so retarded I was barely able to keep it running at a stop light. Pulling away from a stop light felt like I was running on 4 cylinders. Seems to me someone, somewhere, must make a barometer controlled vacuum advance for the carb equipped vehicles. I have seen a guy install a second choke type knob on the dash to pull a plate attached to the distributor shaft that they tweaked to adjust the timing when they traveled over the passes. Scott -----Original Message----- From:Posluszny, Walt (POSL) [SMTP:POSL Sent:Monday, April 05, 1999 11:04 AM To:'80-96-list Subject:FTE 80-96 - RE: High Altitude Carb Problem Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 08:36:35 -0600 From: "Stephen W. Hansen" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fw: l985 Ford F-250 (High Altitude Flooding) Loveland Pass -- I-70 Tunnel -- Vail Pass -- Colorado>> ============================================== Make sure your main and secondary jets are set up for High Altitude. That's about 3 jet sizes reduction (if my memory serves me) if your carb was a sea level carb and you moved to Denver. If you live or spend most of your time higher, reduce the jets even further, it's a simple calculation and Holley can make recommendations. AND, give that thing as much ignition timing as it will take without pinging. You can get away with allot more than stock timing at that altitude and it helps ALLOT!. My 78, 351M has 18 degrees BTDC initial in Denver and it doesn't ping at all on regular unleaded. I've got a 4160 Holley on it and it doesn't smoke a lick on any mountain pass. If you have to, manually downshift to keep the rpm's up. A good free flow air filter will help as well. Walt == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:24:26 EDT From: PSales264 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Those Radius Arm Bushings...How Hard to change??? A porta- power is a hydraulic cylinder with a hose to the pump for remote work. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:05:49 -0400 From: Garr&Pam Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle Chris Philipp wrote: > > When I am idling > appears to almost stagger, rarely stalls however. Anyone have any > thoughts on what could be causing this? I thought I heard fuel pump, > and EGR earlier about this question. I am running premium gas, it > appears to have a shiny new fuel filter, and the main fuel(frame > mounted)pump looks to be weathered, appears to happen on both tanks, how > can I test the EGR.. vacuum test or something? What are the basics on > doing either job. I have had my mechanic do one of my in tank pumps > before, but he wants around $200+ to do it. I would easily make the > effort to save some cash. TIA Chris I would bet it is the throttle body bypass valve or the throttle positioning sensor...both probably have never been changed Chris 94 Lightning #381 NLOC #238 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:49:41 PDT From: "Chris Mahaffey" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Changing radius arm bushings I didn't feel like getting under my truck with a hammer and chisel to take the rivets off so I decided to do it by moving the arms forward. Since I was replacing the axle pivot bushings too, having that end of the I-beams disconnected made it easier to move the arms forward. I took the calipers and shocks off before I started since I was replacing them anyway. I think you'd have to be very careful of the brake lines if you don't take them off. I was talking to a friend who is a mechanic at the local Ford dealer and he said they torch the rivets off when changing the bushings. He also suggested I make sure the bolts that hold the brackets to the crossmember where the I beams pivot were tight. I don't know why but one side is riveted and the other is bolted. He said he had seen several of those work loose. I didn't have any problem with mine. I used rebuilt calipers from Auto-Zone. I'm not having any problems with them, but it hasn't been that long since I put them on either. Time will tell. I saw mention a couple days ago about gauges that mount on the A pillar. That sounds like a slick way of mounting them. Is it a special bracket? Where can I buy it? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:52:42 -0500 From: "Kevin Reed" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle You don't have to change the TPS or the throttle bypass valve. You can test both using a ohm meter and a shop manual. The valve itself can be separated from the throttle body and cleaned using carb cleaner. To be more effective, remove the entire throttle body, disassemble it, clean it completely with carb cleaner, and pipe cleaners for the vacuum holes. When you put it back together make sure you lube the friction points, adjust the manual idle screw, and set the TPS (should read 0.5V to 1.0V with the throttle closed). It took me about an hour and a half, only cost about $5 for the cleaner and some white lithium grease, and it made the Truck run like a dream! It's not hard, there's actually very few parts to it! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-80-96-list > [mailto:owner-80-96-list > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 11:06 AM > To: 80-96-list > Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle > > > Chris Philipp wrote: > > > > When I am idling > > appears to almost stagger, rarely stalls however. Anyone have any > > thoughts on what could be causing this? I thought I heard fuel pump, > > and EGR earlier about this question. I am running premium gas, it > > appears to have a shiny new fuel filter, and the main fuel(frame > > mounted)pump looks to be weathered, appears to happen on both tanks, how > > can I test the EGR.. vacuum test or something? What are the basics on > > doing either job. I have had my mechanic do one of my in tank pumps > > before, but he wants around $200+ to do it. I would easily make the > > effort to save some cash. TIA Chris > > I would bet it is the throttle body bypass valve or the throttle > positioning sensor...both probably have never been changed > Chris > 94 Lightning #381 > NLOC #238 > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:51:12 EDT From: FULSZBRONC Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: High Altitude Carb Problem In a message dated 4/6/99 9:30:01 AM Mountain Daylight Time, sgiddens advance for the carb equipped vehicles >> The DuraSpark ignition Ford installs on vehicles with high-altitude calibration uses a YELLOW grommet ignition module rather than the standard BLUE...it has an extra 2-wire pigtail that attaches to a baro-sensor which controls timing relative to altitude. Also, MSD makes a ping control that replaces the ignition module...with a graduated knob on the dash you can change the ignition timing ''on the fly'' == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:57:38 -0500 From: "David Anderson (EUS)" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Brake Line Replacement >>>>Does anyone have tips they want to share about an easy (or otherwise) way to get off an old brake line? I've got an 83 F150 that I'm trying to replace the rear line on. 16 years of "Stuff" has made the line less than cooperative. >>>>> The main thing here is not to round off the flange nuts using box end wrenches. I've seen some special wrenches that look like box ends with a slot in the end to slide the brake line through. They grip the flange nuts better . You could also make a wrench by grinding a slot in a strong 6 point box end wrench. David Anderson == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:41:31 PDT From: "Casey Vandor" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Rough Idle I have the same problem here, EGR does not seem to be the problem (for me anyway). My brake booster leaks, but I have adjusted the mixture to compensate, not sure what else it can be, but my 351W will idle really *low* at stoplights or pushing in the clutch to downshift when slowing down. it hasn't died since I richened the mixture, but it sounds like you can hear each cylender firing... pop...pop...pop...pop......... Still havn't figured it out, Casey Vandor Home Page http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/CaseyV/ 83 F-250 4X4 75 W-200 4X2 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:09:23 EDT From: FLR150 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Changing radius arm bushings In a message dated 4/6/99 1:17:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mahaffey That sounds like a slick way of mounting them. Is it a special bracket? Where can I buy it? >> Summit Racing Equipment. www.summit racing .com. I bought the dual gauge pod for the Apillar and total with shipping was $33.90 or in that ballpark. And trust me, they are easy to mount and they do get looks for their "slickness". Just make sure of the gauge size you have as they sell these in 2 different size openings. Also don't let them push you into buying the whole Apillar piece which runs around $200 and has the gauges formed actually into the pillar trim piece. Wayne Foy '94 Flareside SC "hazardous Material" (To my wallet) =) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:12:15 EDT From: FLR150 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Rough Idle In a message dated 4/6/99 2:01:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cvandor you can hear each cylinder firing... pop...pop...pop...pop......... >> Casey, Have you hooked up a vacuum gauge to the manifold to see if you have a vacuum leak there? Just asking because mine was doing that and my front 2 manifold bolts had wiggled loose...just a suggestion. Wayne Foy '94 Flareside SC "Hazardous Material" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:07:39 -0500 From: "Chuck" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Those Radius Arm Bushings...How Hard to change??? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-80-96-list > [mailto:owner-80-96-list > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 10:24 AM > To: 80-96-list > Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Those Radius Arm Bushings...How Hard to > change??? > > > A porta- power is a hydraulic cylinder with a hose to the pump for remote > work. ok, got it! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:29:52 -0600 From: "Giddens, Scott" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Rough Idle Casey, Your '83 has a carb, Maybe the '84s' had EFI half way through the year (mine didn't but it was an early '84) But I am pretty sure his '88 has EFI not a carb. Did you mean to say you adjusted your low idle, not the fuel to air mixture? That would make more sense. Running it rich will foul your plugs and cause carbon build up in your engine. If you have a vacuum leak I think you found your problem. Scott -----Original Message----- From:Casey Vandor [SMTP:cvandor Sent:Tuesday, April 06, 1999 11:42 AM To:80-96-list Subject:FTE 80-96 - Re: Rough Idle I have the same problem here, EGR does not seem to be the problem (for me anyway). My brake booster leaks, but I have adjusted the mixture to compensate, not sure what else it can be, but my 351W will idle really *low* at stoplights or pushing in the clutch to downshift when slowing down. it hasn't died since I richened the mixture, but it sounds like you can hear each cylender firing... pop...pop...pop...pop......... Still havn't figured it out, Casey Vandor Home Page http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/CaseyV/ 83 F-250 4X4 75 W-200 4X2 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:41:09 EDT From: craig n eggerman Subject: FTE 80-96 - Electric fuel pumps Experienced the bad fuel pump in the rear tank this weekend in my E350. Seems when it warms up and this time of year when they change over from winter blend to summer blend gas a lot of these pumps will stop working. Dealer mechanic and RV mechanic in Moab, Utah said to let them set for 15 or 20 minutes and they will run again for a while. They said the E350 is a real problem around Moab in the summer with older pumps. Question is have any of you replaced this pump? Is it a 1 or 5 banana job? Is there a better after market pump? Any installation tricks or parts needed? This is a 38 gallon fuel tank. Craig Eggerman Casper,Wyoming O|||||O ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:41:09 EDT From: craig n eggerman Subject: FTE 80-96 - boiling fuel Several years ago the mechanic at the Texaco station in Dillon Colorado suggested that the boiling fuel problem can be fixed by adding a small amount of diesel to the gasoline. In theory it lowers the reed vapor pressure of the gasoline and stops it from boiling. It will not harm a carbureted engine. I'm not sure what it would do to a fuel injected system. This is an alterative to lowering the floats on the holly carbs. It works. I use to put in about a gallon of diesel with 15 gallons of gasoline. Cured my mountain vapor lock problems. Craig Eggerman Casper,Wyoming O|||||O ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:49:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Woods Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Changing radius arm bushings On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 FLR150 > In a message dated 4/6/99 1:17:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > mahaffey > > > That sounds like a slick way of mounting them. Is it a special bracket? > Where can I buy it? > >> > Summit Racing Equipment. www.summit racing .com. I bought the dual gauge pod > for the Apillar and total with shipping was $33.90 or in that ballpark. And > trust me, they are easy to mount and they do get looks for their "slickness". > Just make sure of the gauge size you have as they sell these in 2 different > size openings. Also don't let them push you into buying the whole Apillar > piece which runs around $200 and has the gauges formed actually into the > pillar trim piece. >From kwoods Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:17:54 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Woods To: 80-96-list Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F150 - Temp Guage + Air Bags + Drive Shaft Problems On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Chris Hedemark wrote: > David J. Smith wrote: > > Can anyone offer an alternative to dropping my pants and bending over to > > the dealer? Are there aftermarket replacement guages that will work? > > Is removal of the dash panel a big job? > > If you are going to replace the temp gauge, have you considered going > aftermarket? > You can get a slick A-pillar pod to hold two gauges (or just one, if you > prefer). The only problem is you will have one dead gauge in your dash > replaced by one excellent one on your A pillar. Summit Racing Equipment 800.230.3030 GRD-87FTSP Single pod, 87-96, $17.95 GRD-87FTDP Dual pod, 87-96, $25.95 - -- Ken Woods kwoods - -- Ken Woods kwoods == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:33:32 -0700 From: "Daniel Witt" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Peelin' paint on 86er Howdy, First post to this list. Recently took possesion of mint 86 F250. Body immaculatte, not a dent, original paint, BUT major peel situation on hood only ( looks like camoflauging almost). I've heard a rumour Ford is willing to correct messed up factory paint even in models as old as this. Has 178,000 original km. Any basis to this rumour? When pigs fly? Thanks in advance. Cheers - -- Daniel Witt 5786 203 Street, Langley, BC Canada V3A-1W3 Ph.604-530-8922/533-7855 Fx 604-530-4752 www.taekwondo.bc.ca == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:57:02 -0400 From: Chris Hedemark Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Peelin' paint on 86er Daniel Witt wrote: > > Howdy, > First post to this list. Recently took possesion of mint 86 F250. Body > immaculatte, not a dent, original paint, BUT major peel situation on hood > only ( looks like camoflauging almost). I've heard a rumour Ford is willing > to correct messed up factory paint even in models as old as this. Has > 178,000 original km. > Any basis to this rumour? When pigs fly? Thanks in advance. Well I don't know about that old... but back in 1995 they were willing to do some pretty expensive body/paint work on a 1989 Bronco due to bad paint and a design flaw that causes the tailgate to rust out pretty quickly. Might be too late now but it doesn't hurt to try. - -- Chris Hedemark Work: IBM eNetwork Dispatcher http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.software.ibm.com/enetwork/dispatcher Personal: Yonder Way http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com "Earl Svein! thou now wilt know That our lads can make blood flow -- That the Hedemarkers hale Can do more than tap good ale." - Saga of Olaf Haraldson: Part II == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:08:12 -0700 From: "Daniel Witt" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Peelin' paint on 86er Hello Chris, Thanks for your response. Any suggestions as to initiate the appeal/application process? Just put the local dealer in a headlock til' she yells 'uncle'? Regards - -- Daniel Witt 5786 203 Street, Langley, BC Canada V3A-1W3 Ph.604-530-8922/533-7855 Fx 604-530-4752 www.taekwondo.bc.ca - ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Hedemark To: Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 12:57 PM Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Peelin' paint on 86er > Daniel Witt wrote: > > > > Howdy, > > First post to this list. Recently took possesion of mint 86 F250. Body > > immaculatte, not a dent, original paint, BUT major peel situation on hood > > only ( looks like camoflauging almost). I've heard a rumour Ford is willing > > to correct messed up factory paint even in models as old as this. Has > > 178,000 original km. > > Any basis to this rumour? When pigs fly? Thanks in advance. > > Well I don't know about that old... but back in 1995 they were willing > to do some pretty expensive body/paint work on a 1989 Bronco due to bad > paint and a design flaw that causes the tailgate to rust out pretty > quickly. Might be too late now but it doesn't hurt to try. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:07:34 -0700 From: "Mike" Subject: FTE 80-96 - 82 ford F150 302 need help This truck has a EEC111 system. The fire sequence on the cap is different from the engine. Dose anyone have info on this?? Thanks Mike == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:23:41 EDT From: ROlson1039 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 82 ford F150 302 need help check the haynes manual that should give you the proper sequence == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:51:47 -0700 From: "Mike" Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Need firing order 1982 Ford F150 5.0 Thanks guys, but I have the firing order I need the sequence on the cap. Its a weird set up, with multiple contact points.The Haynes manual that I have does not cover EEC 111 and Chilton is brief and incomplete. Maybe someone has a shop manual or Ford specs. links. Any help would be most appreciated... Thanks Mike (Sorry for the double post RW, Just getting the hang of this.) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:24:12 EDT From: FLR150 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Changing radius arm bushings In a message dated 4/6/99 3:12:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kwoods writes: 800.230.3030 GRD-87FTSP Single pod, 87-96, $17.95 GRD-87FTDP Dual pod, 87-96, $25.95 -- Ken Woods kwoods Hey Ken, You forgot the $7 shipping charge + $25.95 = $32.95. Only a buck off....in the ballpark I think. Wayne Foy '94 Flareside SC "Hazardous Material" ( To slow rice burners...crunch crunch) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:22:46 -0500 From: "Harris, Scott" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle Is there a gasket for the throttle body? > -----Original Message----- > From:Kevin Reed [SMTP:kreed > Sent:Tuesday, April 06, 1999 12:53 PM > To:80-96-list > Subject:RE: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle > > You don't have to change the TPS or the throttle bypass valve. You can > test > both using a ohm meter and a shop manual. The valve itself can be > separated > from the throttle body and cleaned using carb cleaner. > > To be more effective, remove the entire throttle body, disassemble it, > clean > it completely with carb cleaner, and pipe cleaners for the vacuum holes. > When you put it back together make sure you lube the friction points, > adjust > the manual idle screw, and set the TPS (should read 0.5V to 1.0V with the > throttle closed). > > It took me about an hour and a half, only cost about $5 for the cleaner > and > some white lithium grease, and it made the Truck run like a dream! It's > not > hard, there's actually very few parts to it! > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-80-96-list > > [mailto:owner-80-96-list > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 11:06 AM > > To: 80-96-list > > Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle > > > > > > Chris Philipp wrote: > > > > > > When I am idling > > > appears to almost stagger, rarely stalls however. Anyone have any > > > thoughts on what could be causing this? I thought I heard fuel pump, > > > and EGR earlier about this question. I am running premium gas, it > > > appears to have a shiny new fuel filter, and the main fuel(frame > > > mounted)pump looks to be weathered, appears to happen on both tanks, > how > > > can I test the EGR.. vacuum test or something? What are the basics > on > > > doing either job. I have had my mechanic do one of my in tank pumps > > > before, but he wants around $200+ to do it. I would easily make the > > > effort to save some cash. TIA Chris > > > > I would bet it is the throttle body bypass valve or the throttle > > positioning sensor...both probably have never been changed > > Chris > > 94 Lightning #381 > > NLOC #238 > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:02:22 -0700 From: "Radoje Spasojevic" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle Yes, I got one when I bought the upper intake manifold gasket set when I installed my mass-air kit. It had the upper intake gasket, the Idle Air vale gasket, and a throttle body gasket. Might be worth it to replace them all while you are at it. Rade - -----Original Message----- From: Harris, Scott To: '80-96-list Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 9:24 PM Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle >Is there a gasket for the throttle body? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kevin Reed [SMTP:kreed >> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 12:53 PM >> To: 80-96-list >> Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle >> >> You don't have to change the TPS or the throttle bypass valve. You can >> test >> both using a ohm meter and a shop manual. The valve itself can be >> separated >> from the throttle body and cleaned using carb cleaner. >> >> To be more effective, remove the entire throttle body, disassemble it, >> clean >> it completely with carb cleaner, and pipe cleaners for the vacuum holes. >> When you put it back together make sure you lube the friction points, >> adjust >> the manual idle screw, and set the TPS (should read 0.5V to 1.0V with the >> throttle closed). >> >> It took me about an hour and a half, only cost about $5 for the cleaner >> and >> some white lithium grease, and it made the Truck run like a dream! It's >> not >> hard, there's actually very few parts to it! >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: owner-80-96-list >> > [mailto:owner-80-96-list >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 11:06 AM >> > To: 80-96-list >> > Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Rough Idle >> > >> > >> > Chris Philipp wrote: >> > > >> > > When I am idling >> > > appears to almost stagger, rarely stalls however. 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