80-96-list-digest Thursday, March 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 084



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - New to list- 1988 Ford F150
FTE 80-96 - Fuel Filter
> FTE 80-96 - Rear seat height
RE:FTE 80-96 - Door handle blues
Re: FTE 80-96 - Aerostar v-6
FTE 80-96 - Transfer case.....
FTE 80-96 - '92 F250 - differential, vibration questions
Re: FTE 80-96 - Transfer case.....
FTE 80-96 - Re: Brake Booster and Rough Idle
FTE 80-96 - Aerostar Tranny
FTE 80-96 - HELP! Dist. troubles!
Re: FTE 80-96 - HELP! Dist. troubles!
FTE 80-96 - Re: Door handle blues
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Brake Booster and Rough Idle
FTE 80-96 - Re: I-6 Rebuild
FTE 80-96 - Re: Fun with Chevy
RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Filter
> RE: FTE 80-96 - Rear seat height
FTE 80-96 - Mass-Air Bronco--- IT RUNS!!!
Re: FTE 80-96 - Rear seat height
FTE 80-96 - C-6 transmission fluid
Re: FTE 80-96 - Mass-Air Bronco--- IT RUNS!!!
FTE 80-96 - lift..
FTE 80-96 - Mass Air Changeover
Re: FTE 80-96 - Mass-Air Bronco--- IT RUNS!!!
Re: FTE 80-96 - Aerostar Tranny
Re: FTE 80-96 - Mass Air Changeover
Re: FTE 80-96 - lift..
FTE 80-96 - 5.0 site
Re: FTE 80-96 - lift..
Re: RE:FTE 80-96 - Door handle blues

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:49:11 -0400
From: colin jamieson
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - New to list- 1988 Ford F150

Sounds like you have a leak in your hydraulic clutch....you wouldn't believe
how many slave cylinders I've changed..... it seems with every clutch job, you
end up changing the hydraulic slave cylinder.

Nolan Woodbury wrote:

> Hi Colin,
>
> > most of the heater flapper controls are vaccum controlled..... atleast on
> my
> > '95.....also, do you have a/c..... if so it could be a problem with the
> > evaporator!!! Let me know... i'm a truck and transport mechanic and a
> ford
> > owner myself.
>
> I've got the manual on order, so I should have a better idea how my truck
> is put together. All of the heater and AC controls work well, as does the
> air itself. Something tells me the problem lies with the clutch slave...the
> whooshing noise seems to be coming from the top of the transmission
> (through the shifter boot). That looks like a real chore to change; the
> slave is inside the bellhousing. The clutch pedal sticks down (with a short
> engagement travel) when the truck is cold in the morning, but after a few
> tries, returns to normal. Adding fluid to the reservoir cures it for a
> couple of days, then the problem returns.
>
> ??
>
> Nolan
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:05:01 -0500
From: George Reilly
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Filter
>
Help......
Is there a trick to removing the fuel filter on a 93 F150?
I removed the two clips but could not get the fuel lines off.
What am I missing?...a special tool maybe?...

George Reilly
781-229-0020 x388
mailto:Greilly zoll.com



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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:45:14 -0600
From: Steve Randa
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Rear seat height

I wasn't aware of this but Ford raised the rear bench seat in the F150
Supercabs so passengers weren't sitting on the floor like the eariler
models. Does anyone know what year?

Steve Randa
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 11:46:32 -0600
From: "Stephen W. Hansen"
Subject: RE:FTE 80-96 - Door handle blues

I locked my keys in last fall and called a locksmith. The fee was 20-25
dollars. The tool he used blew my mind. It was a heavy steel bar about 3/16
of an inch thick, bent into the shape of a "C". At the bottom edge of the
"C" (where your pencil would stop if you were writing it) about 6" of the
bar came to you with another "C" on the other end "C------G" (If you are
still with me kinda like the thing shown here) One side was for the left and
one side was for the right side. You worked it under the wing window and
using the bottom edge placed it on the wing window button, pull it out
towards you and the top of the "C" twisted the handle open. the simplicity
of it amazed me.
Steve

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:08:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Alan Alquist
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Aerostar v-6

I have experience by way of ownership and helping neighbors with their
Aerostar vehicle. I don't mean to paint an ugly portrait of Aerostar's;
when they work they are delightful (we liked our 88 Eddie Bauer standard
version). I impeccably maintained it. Used it 75-80% on highways, biways
and freeways. Engine overhaul at 115k and tranny at 118K. Other than
Subaru's, this has been my weakest vehicle; others include Porshe, Honda,
GMC, Chevrolet, Isuzu, Mazda, Toyota's and Ford Trucks (...a different
animal than Ford autos and minivans)

We all have our opinion but this anal back-yard, professional research
scientist has the opinion that the toughest and best built by far are
Toyota's and Ford Trucks.

Good luck with whatever you choose!!

On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Thomas Ucen wrote:

Hi list,

I have a '93 Aerostar 3.0L. My first Ford. This statement below (from
another problem) made me nervous:

>Advice #2:
>
>Tell your friend to get rid of it. The A4LD-OD Tranny will go soon if it
>has not already. These are expensive trannies (junkyard units go for
>$600-900; no labor) and are not up to the standards that are in Ford
>Trucks (C-6's, etc.).

Are the transmissions in the Aerostars really that bad? Is there any special
treatment in order to make her last? How long do they usually last? Thanks
for any advice.

Tom Ucen
Munich, Germany
thomas_ucen kirchgruppe.de
1993 Aerostar Ext. 3.0L

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:08:59 -0600
From: Matthew Banevich
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Transfer case.....

I have an 86' Bronco, 4.9L I-6, four speed manual transmission..... I
have a few questions.

1. Right now, I have 2 kinds of tires. On the rear, are 2- BFG All
Terrain T/A's that are 31x10.5 r15 and on the front, 235/75/r15, I've
only replaced the back two because the back two were leaking, and had
come off the rims 2x in one week, and the BFG's were the same size as
the "Grabbers" that were on the truck, and the rims on the back are
either aluminum or alloy, and the front are just crappy black steel and
I was looking for the same type of wheel before I changed the front.

When I lock the front two wheels, it seems like I'm driving with my
brakes on, what is that from?

2. Is the tire difference a BIG problem ?

3. After I had done that, I unlocked the hubs, put it in 2H, and there
was a popping from the transfer case when in forward motion. I thought
that the chain in the transfer case was stretched, so I parked the
Bronco in the driveway, and drove my Bronco II. Since we ahad a death
in the family a day before this happened, I wasn't able to get to
investigating this for about a week, but when I did, I put it up on
jackstands, and put it in first, it was making the popping noise,
seeming to be from the rear of the transfer case, and it was driving all
four wheels, but the front two were unlocked. I stopped the wheels, and
put it in 2H, and the noise stopped, put in back into 4H and 4L, and
couldn't get it to do it again, what was it?

thanks, for the help...
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:18:19 -0800
From: "Bud Dean"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '92 F250 - differential, vibration questions

Hi,

Thanks again for all the help everyone as given. This has really become
quite a project.

In the past few weeks, I have done the EGR valve, oxygen sensor, front
rotors/calipers/bearings/pads; u-joints; rear drums/shoes.

When I got started on rear brakes, when I removed the river side drum, the
self adjusting cable fell out(it was shredded near the attachment bolt in
the backing plate). I have 145,000 miles on the truck. The rear brakes were
done app 50 - 60,000 miles ago. I swear the shoes had little if any wear. I
went ahead and replaced the drums and shoes. Cleaned everything up. Did
the back up and stop about 50 - 60 times (20 mins worth). I had adjusted
them enough that the parking brake wouldn't hold...It holds now, so am
confident the adjusters are working. Removed the drums on both sides, and
the adjusting screws have been expanded. I have no fluid leaks and didn't
notice any fluid around the cylinders(they are a little grimy, though).

I am fairly confident the rear bearings have never been touched(just go the
tools, etc. for that operation this weekend). I do however, have a couple of
strange symptoms(to me anyway).

I have a vibration, which feels like it might be generated from behind me
when I'm driving. The rougher the stretch of highway I'm, the more
pronounced it becomes. When stopping, I feel what is like a grabbing and
release effect and the vibration becomes more intense. It almost feels like
the truck is trying to bounce. I jacked the car up, and tried to move the
tires in and out. They don't feel "sloppy" to me, though there may be a
little play.

I was wondering if it is possible that the ABS sensor is faulty?

I am going to do a 180 on the driveshaft as well. When I got the shaft back
from the shop doing the u-joints, I had to guess at what I thought was my
chalk mark.

When I got the supplies for the rear bearing project, I wanted to pick up
some fluid for differential. I know it has a 10.25 ring gear with a 3.55
ratio. The fella at the auto parts store need to know if it was limited slip
or not...In the ford manual it show LS as an option. The codes in the front
of the book show a set of numbers to identify the axle. Mine is a 39. In the
book it shows another number in the series (a 2), which refers to the front
axle if so quipped(mine isn't). The type code is x259, which indicates heavy
duty.

The numbers on the differential tag are:

V122D
55 10 2 2C09

Can I tell from this or how can I identify if I have a limited slip
differential.

Any help and guidance would sure be appreciated....

Thanks in advance,


Bud Dean


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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:55:10 -0500
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Transfer case.....

YES!! Tire difference is a big problem.
Having driven any distance on a hard surface will cause problems with the
drive train. The front tires being smaller than the rears need to spin
faster at any given speed. With the transfer case in 4H, the front and rear
axles rotate at the same speed. Driving under these conditions puts a heavy
load on the system. The tires has been slidding to compensate, giving you
that " brakes on all the time" feeling.
If you drove for any distance you have probably damaged parts. Check the
transfer case, stretched chain, jammed release pin; check the drive shafts,
worn U-joints, worn slip joints; check the tires, feathered block edges;
check the transmission, overheating.
Hope you didn't go too far.

Matt

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From: Matthew Banevich
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 4:21 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Transfer case.....


>I have an 86' Bronco, 4.9L I-6, four speed manual transmission..... I
>have a few questions.
>
>1. Right now, I have 2 kinds of tires. On the rear, are 2- BFG All
>Terrain T/A's that are 31x10.5 r15 and on the front, 235/75/r15, I've
>only replaced the back two because the back two were leaking, and had
>come off the rims 2x in one week, and the BFG's were the same size as
>the "Grabbers" that were on the truck, and the rims on the back are
>either aluminum or alloy, and the front are just crappy black steel and
>I was looking for the same type of wheel before I changed the front.
>
>When I lock the front two wheels, it seems like I'm driving with my
> brakes on, what is that from?
>
>2. Is the tire difference a BIG problem ?
>
>3. After I had done that, I unlocked the hubs, put it in 2H, and there
>was a popping from the transfer case when in forward motion. I thought
>that the chain in the transfer case was stretched, so I parked the
> Bronco in the driveway, and drove my Bronco II. Since we ahad a death
>in the family a day before this happened, I wasn't able to get to
>investigating this for about a week, but when I did, I put it up on
>jackstands, and put it in first, it was making the popping noise,
>seeming to be from the rear of the transfer case, and it was driving all
>four wheels, but the front two were unlocked. I stopped the wheels, and
>put it in 2H, and the noise stopped, put in back into 4H and 4L, and
>couldn't get it to do it again, what was it?
>
>thanks, for the help...
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:17:46 PST
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Brake Booster and Rough Idle

Ok, I know the booster leaking. I am not losing fluid. I will try
pulling the vacuum line and seeing if the idle comes back up to
normal/or better than before. How do I check a booster from a used
pickup(junkyard, won't run) or is the booster one I should look into as
new? The booster is not affecting the braking at all, but the idle is
really a PITA! This may sound stupid, but is it ok to richen the
mixture to account for the booster, even though if with a properly
working booster, the mixture would be way overboard? Did that sound as
clear as I think it did :) Just maybe, *knocking on wood* maybe this
will be the last thing to break for a while...

Thanks Again
Casey Vandor
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:18:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Victor L Moran
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Aerostar Tranny

Tom,

I own a 87 aerostar with 112000 miles on it. I just had the tranny
checked out because of all the horrible things that have been said on
this list.
All is well and only the fluid needed changing. This tranny
has seen some hard time too. The lady who owned it before myself used to
race it on the highway (80+ was normal for her).

I can't say that my aerostar has been a dream to own. I've actually put a
lot of new parts into it. However only a few of the parts actually were
bad news. The power steering pump sprang a leak quietly and pumped itself
dry and destroyed the rack and pinion and the alternator went twice (but
once may have been my fault)

Other then that, I have just been doing maintenance on it. Stuff like
water pump, front disk breakes, and an alignment. My goal is to keep this
car until I graduate from college in 16 months. Once I have a job I think
I am going to sell her since I won't need a large traveling car (400 miles
between home and school).

don't fret since the one in question is a 94. They tend to run well for
the first ten years or so. But they have a tendency to leak oil from the
rear main seal (mine was leaking but a bit of seal sweller and it was
gone). They also rust under the doors and in the lowest part of the body
panels between the wheels. I have been lucky in that I don't have rust
there since I have running boards, but most aerostars in my area have rust
there. The air conditioning will also fail. That may fail soon for you.
There is something wrong with the way that the seals were made in the
system, so after recharging the freon it just pumps it all away. So don't
waste your time and money recharging the system.

Oh my thermostat also had to be replaced too.

The aerostars also have their good points. The seats are very
comfortable. My cloth seats still look and feel great. The seating
position is very high. It has more cargo room is more then any mini van
out there. The roof rack is strong and adjustable.

There are more good points about these trucks,
I just can't think of them right now.

Victor.

P.S. To all the guru's who might tell me why I'm all wrong, go ahead.
The more I learn about my little truck, the better.the better.

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:53:20 -0600
From: mentch cybrzn.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - HELP! Dist. troubles!

Here is the problem.....The motor I just finished building is an 85
roller cam 302....I put an accel dual point distributer in it....When i
went to break in the motor it ran great for about 20 min. but then died
suddenly.....i pulled the cap to find that the rotor was not turning at
all.....when i pulled the Dist. The gear was stripped and some teeth
were missing! What would cause this? Does the roller cam need a diff.
dist. gear? If so where can i find one?

Thanks,
Brian
Mentch cybrzn.com


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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 18:48:37 -0500
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - HELP! Dist. troubles!

Yes, the roller cam requires a different gear. the dealer who sold you the
distributor should be able to supply the gear. If not, you'r local Ford
dealer has (or can order) them.


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From: mentch cybrzn.com
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 5:57 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - HELP! Dist. troubles!


>Here is the problem.....The motor I just finished building is an 85
>roller cam 302....I put an accel dual point distributer in it....When i
>went to break in the motor it ran great for about 20 min. but then died
>suddenly.....i pulled the cap to find that the rotor was not turning at
>all.....when i pulled the Dist. The gear was stripped and some teeth
>were missing! What would cause this? Does the roller cam need a diff.
>dist. gear? If so where can i find one?....

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